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geekysteven · 5 months

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I love that Star Trek went out of their way to establish that Cardassians love making choose your own adventure novels that kill their enemies just in case they're out of office but someone needs murdered

#star trek #deep space nine #deep space 9 #ds9 #star trek ds9 #star trek voyager #st voyager #voyager #gul dukat #skrain dukat #ds9 dukat #dukat #seska #cardassians #worst case scenario #civil defense

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vaguely-concerned · 1 month

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that higher breathy airy register cardassian voices tend to slip into to tell you that you're about to be in for A Soliloquy and nothing but an act of god could save you from it is something that can actually be so personal (that is so personal to me)

#buncha overdramatic lizard theather kids with fascism problems #star trek #star trek ds9 #ds9 #cardassians #garak dukat and tain all kind of do this and it's so funny to me. it's the signal that they are about to be Insufferable at you #it's that 'entertain with me if you will this hypothetical scenario I'll posit --' performativeness they all talk like supervillains #the dominion didn't have to bomb cardassia to shreds they could've just introduced improv classes and sat back to watch

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old-type-40 · 1 year

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If you've watched DS9 and have a vague recollection that it's not possible to scan for changelings, bonus points for you. Here are some screen caps with dialogue from the episode The Adversary.

Also, after Odo encountered his people for the first time, he gave up using his bucket early in season 3. Though of course the changeling aboard the Titan might not want to have been accidentally discovered as a puddle of gelatinous goo on the floor in its quarters.

There's a strange mix in season 3 of Picard of Matalas covering certain details carefully while flubbing others as to the changelings. For example, when the cadets ask Picard about him being hunted by a Hirogen, my first tought was, "How the hell did a Hirogen get to the Alpha Quadrant?" And then the cadet asked about that though we never got an answer.

@trekcore said that Matalas didn't have a lot of time to get season 3 ready to shoot as Patrick Stewart wanted to shoot seasons 2 and 3 back to back. And I'm wondering if he was stuck relying upon his own memory of details rather than being able to brush up on things because of time constraints.

#star trek #picard #ds9 #picard spoilers #no win scenario #the adversary #changeling

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youngpettyqueen · 3 months

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theres more than one version of this in my head and I could get into it and I probably will at some point but just know that I think that after getting back from camp 371 Julian doesnt sleep in his own quarters for at least a week

#star trek: ds9 #julian bashir #one scenario: he stays in Garak's quarters #and its the one time that nobody says ANYTHING about it #Julian doesnt report in the next morning and they get the computer to locate him and he's in Garak's quarters #and theyre like 'yeah. yeah that makes sense' and they leave him be #second scenario: he's with the O'Briens #he gets back and Miles and Keiko hover over him until nighttime #at which point when he tries to go to his quarters they each grab an arm and steer him to their own #both of them going 'you are absolutely not sleeping alone tonight'#and then he stays there for at least a week #third scenario: Jadzia refuses to let him out of her fucking sight #im forever bitter we didnt see an onscreen hug when Julian got back. from anybody #let my boy be cared for goddamnit

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2063april5 · 1 year

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Julian: did you see the Federation News? Admiral Picard is dealing with the fucking Changelings now, ha! Good luck. We needed a Jesus Christ style deification to get rid of those last time

Garak: Yes, my dear, and did you see what happened to that poor former captain Riker?

Julian: ... Elim

Garak: I hear his wife is a betazoid, the daughter of that, err, lovely Madam Troi that married good Odo for a week that one time

Julian: Elim I know what you-

Garak: it does make one wonder, doesn't it? If a betazoid woman in her... middle age thing, how is it called?

Julian: we just call it "the phase"

Garak: very scientific, Doctor, as always. If a betazoid woman undergoing "the phase", in full control of her empathetic abilities, could be fooled... It follows that the changelings would be able to mimic even the very signature of a person's emotions, and isn't that something?

Julian: the fact that Deanna fucked a changeling doesn't make me feel any better about the fact that you fucked a changeling, Garak

#disclaimer: I haven't watched picard #i also haven't finished ds9 but I've seen people saying that the emissary joining the prophets had something to do with ending the war?#so there #i needed to get this out of my system after seeing those gifsets of deanna saying the changeling was good at sex bad at pizza #anyway #garashir #they are married in this scenario #picard #ds9 #picard season 3 #picard spoilers #deep space 9 #star trek #st: ds9 #st: pic #elim garak #julian bashir #deanna troi #william riker

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marxistgnome · 1 year

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In celebration of the fucked up lizard baby episode that is threshold here is what i think some other star trek captains would do in that situation:

Captain Kirk: hed also leave them there and piss off in the enterprise cos thats what happens in every episode no matter what went on but i think hed acknowledge it a little more than janeway did. Like once they delizarded him thered be a moment on the bridge where he makes an offhand comment like "well i always wanted children" to the horror of everyone present (yes in this scenario and all following salamander m-preg is involved)

Captain Picard: once he got delizarded there would be alot of deliberation over what to do all of it DEEPLY awkward and eventually it would be decided that theyd construct some sort of scientific observation/nature reserve situation so they could keep an eye in the lizard babies. Occasionally when theyre in that area of space picard drops in to check on them. Just kind of crouches by their pool and stands up really quickly if someone walks in on him

Captain Sisko: absolutely NO CHANCE of him leaving those lizards behind. Benjamin "oooo a baby" Sisko does not care that his childrens are lizards he thinks theyre absolutely adorable and loves them just the same. He brings them back to the station and everyones kinda like uhhhh are u sure and hes like yes! :D and eventually everyone just accepts it. He makes them an enclosure with a pool in it and takes them to baseball games in a 3 tier pram

#star trek #ds9 #tng #tos #threshold #voyager #in the sisko threshold baby scenario i think odo is very protective of them #cos obvs bashir and dax and just starfleet in general want to run tests on them cos wtf #but he's like NO they will NOT be raised in a lab #hes really supportive of siskos raising them #like people bring it up to him like hih kinda weird right #and hes just like I THINK ITS A VERY NOBLE THING THE CAPTAIN IS DOING

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twerkyvulture · 1 year

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not a canonical tailless Cardassian appreciator, nor a Cardassian lizard tail enjoyer but a secret third thing (Cardassian mandatory tail-amputation truther)

#think about it. its the most Cardassian answer to this scenario #idk if this is triggering at all so ask to tag #im putting it in the tags to start shit tho also #cardassian #star trek #ds9 #garak

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gavetheflamingswordaway · 1 year

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Okay I haven’t watched DS9 in a while now, but I watched some videos on YouTube yesterday and I guess it must have planted itself in my mind bc I got a pretty vivid dream about it last night

I don’t know exactly where it took place but in my dream it was a new season and some major disaster just took place and I think Garak was killed in it, or seriously injured, because Julian was sobbing the entire time absolutely heartbroken. Miles was comforting him and Julian just cried on his shoulder, but Miles was also sad and hurt because ‘what about me? And our relationship?’ So Julian was clearly involved in some deep stuff with both of them and all I could think was finally the writers showed some guts

#don’t know what happened with Keiko in this scenario though #but miles and Julian were so sweet together #just really sweet tenderness and honesty #star trek #ds9 #miles o'brien #ds9 garak #julian bashir

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deepestturtlepielover · 1 year

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What if Julian got possessed by pah-wraith? Like how’d that play out would garak tell anyone would he tell everyone? Drag Julian to idk the local bajoran shrine?? I’m genuinely curious! Also it’d be cool if did those scary things possessed people do in the movies like the whole bending and breaking of bones ! Weird voices ya know the whole build up before shit hits the fan then flies out the window to cause more chaos! Or worse he’s conscience (?) through the entire thing

Like it starts out as a normal day Julian doing medical work and garak is at his tailer shop taking the orders for repairs on cloths and commissions (idfk how a tailors job works lmao) they go to meet for lunch discuss normal stuff but Julian isn’t acting right he smells of smoke and Ashes (dramatic music with zoom in) They continue on with their work after work then go to meet up in secret usual .. and like a switch is flipped Julian starts acting all odd you know anyways thoughts are going too fast TOO THE GOOD PARTS!! “if you tell the emissary I’ll snap his pretty little neck like a Jumja stick right now “ and he just go thump on the floor like some sack of potatoes while garak reeling from the interaction taking shuddering breaths inched closer and Julian is back and he’s crying trying to hold himself back (because idk I’ll make it up as I go) he’s still possessed by some freaky alien demons but at the same time that’s his “chuli’an” (and other sweet words in Kardassi [?]) he instead sits Julian up and without turning his back calls for help (?) idk FUVK THE THOUGHTS ARE LEAVING ME NOOOOOO COME BACK-

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lostyesterday · 3 months

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*As in, an episode where the holodeck is the primary setting and focus of the episode. I didn’t include episodes like Take me Out to the Holosuite where the holodeck isn’t central to the story. I also didn’t include It’s Only a Paper Moon, since the tone of that episode is so wildly different from a typical Holodeck episode.

#star trek tng #star trek ds9 #star trek voy #star trek lower decks #star trek prodigy #lane posts

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lol-jackles · 12 days

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I get the hero’s journey story and how supernatural was like Star Wars and Thelma & Louise, and that Sam is the lead of the story and Dean is the support to Sam’s story. It’s very clear and obvious and how that was the design of the show’s framework from the beginning with Kripke referencing Sam as Luke and Dean as Hans.

What I’d like to understand your perspective on what Supernatural was supposed to be if J2’s chemistry were more normal/average and not “lightening in a bottle”. Kripke has said many times over the years that the show framework was supposed to MOW episodes but they realized after 2-3 episodes that they should focus more on the brothers.

If the show was already about the brothers and Sam’s hero journey, what would have the show looked like had they kept to Kripke’s original formula? I felt we got MOW most episodes. Just trying to understand what Kripke meant that they changed the formula midway in s1.

Best case scenario it would look like mixture of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and The X-Files, both shows had MOTW episodes that were usually separate from the season-long mytharc. Supernatural's MOTW episodes tend to tie into the season's mytharcs, which is why I generally don't distinguish between SPN's MOTW and mytharc episodes. Hellers derided the MOTW episodes as "fillers", but that's only because Cas was usually not in those. Another example is Star Trek, the super fans get frustrated when standalone episodes rarely address or resolve previous episodes' storylines, especially DS9 as it was the most serialized of the spinoffs. General fans don't really care. One of Supernatural's strengths, thanks to J2 chemistry, is the stand alone episodes can add to the season's mytharc, and vice versa.

Worst case scenario it would look like season 3 The Boys that became plot driven and so turned characters into plot devices by becoming whatever the plot calls for because Kripke doesn't have the guts to carry out the actual plot point of The Boys, which is that the Boys hunt and kill supes. But they aren't killing any supes except for 3 non-significant supes in 3 seasons. At this point the Boys' best strategy to killing supes is to basically leave Homelander alone because that guy gets supes killed.

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isagrimorie · 4 months

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There's been a fandom question fans keep going back to -- what would each Star Trek Captain do if they were put in each other's situations.

The general consensus I'm seeing is that Sisko and Janeway more or less will do similar things to each other but with varying degrees of intensity.

And Picard would not have fared well in the DS9 situation. There are varying answers to how he would do in the Voyager situation.

People are kidding themself if they say Picard would not destroy the Caretaker array, especially since it would end with the Ocampan people enslaved.

Also, Sisko wouldn't have allowed the Ocampans to be enslaved either. Reddit folks who keep pointing out In the Pale Moonlight as Sisko being pragmatic and ruthless... I feel miss the point of the whole episode and monologue.

Sisko had to be pushed to the point to do that, this was Sisko in the later parts of the Dominion War, when they had heavy casualties. Also, it makes me think people haven't seen InPM in a while because when I rewatched the episode I was so surprised how much Garak had to PUSH Sisko into the entire thing.

He was kicking and screaming and fighting against it but had to accept what Garak did because this was the only way to get the Romulans to back their alliance.

Like fandom tells it, Sisko was the one wheeling and dealing with the whole scenario conveniently forgetting to bring up the whole Garak of it all.

And Sisko's repeated: "I can live with it, I can live with it." Sisko is trying to convince himself that he can but he was struggling with it.

There is no way, season 1 or pilot!era Sisko would have shot at the Caretaker's Array to leave the Ocampans helpless. He would make more of an effort, obsessively, maybe to get home for Jake but he's not abandoning his Starfleet ideals either.

I feel like people ascribe pragmatic ruthlessness to Sisko too much when every instance we see of that is when he's pushed into it.

I am curious though how Janeway would have handled being station commander of DS9 together with the whole Bajoran thing, especially with her own contentious history with the Cardassians.

And how would Janeway handle the Dominion? Like I do feel Janeway and Sisko are similar but how they do things and the varying degrees of it would have been interesting.

Like, how would Janeway handle Kira as a second in command? And she would have had no history with a Dax.

On the other end, I don't think Sisko would have any kind of tolerance for Seven of Nine. He might feel obligated to cut her from the Collective when she's left alone but his hatred of the Borg is even more piercing than Shaw's in Picard s3. And Seven would have been peak Borg arrogance in season 4.

So... maybe Sisko and Janeway are where they were meant to be-- Janeway has no history with the Borg, which allowed her a certain open-mindedness that Sisko won't tolerate because of his own personal losses. And Sisko didn't have experience with the Cardassians before DS9, so he could also maintain a polite but barely contained disdain for the Guls he encounters on DS9.

#thinky thoughts #star trek #star trek captains #benjamin sisko #kathryn janeway #jean luc picard

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youngpettyqueen · 2 months

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I truly love that Miles and Garak literally cannot get along. they cannot resist jabbing each other, and Garak is much better at it, so every conversation they have is Miles trying to one-up him and Garak immediately firing back and making him so mad that Julian has to intervene before Miles fucking kills him

#star trek: ds9 #vengeance #miles o'brien #elim garak #I love this book so fucking much #ive read a fic where Miles and Garak had to team up to rescue Julian and now I want 394857938 more #I genuinely think that would be the only scenario where they'd be able to work together and get along

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bluedelliquanti · 5 months

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Last year I started making a list of the books I'd read and enjoyed, and I'm back with this year's list!

COMICS:

Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou by Hitoshi Ashinano

Out of Style by Devi Putri Megwati

Skip and Loafer by Misaki Takamatsu

The Harrowing of Hell by Evan Dahm

The Infinity Particle by Wendy Xu

Esteban by Matthieu Bonhomme

I covered my ShortBox reccs back in October, but since then I also picked up Pearl Hunting by Hana Chatani when it came to itch.io and adored it.

PROSE:

So yes, maybe I'm cheating by including Moby Dick since I'm not all the way finished, but Whale Weekly really did end up being a great tool for getting me to crack open my gorgeous Evan Dahm-illustrated copy I've had for a while.

My favorite book of the year is Roadside Picnic by Arkady & Boris Strugatsky. I genuinely did read it the first week of January, but after having it recommended to me for years, I'm thrilled it didn't disappoint. Maybe I am someone who likes Russian novels after all???

Kitchen by Banana Yoshimoto

Such Nice People by Sandra Scoppettone

Cyteen by C.J. Cherryh (I jokingly placed these three in the "READ 👏 FEMALE 👏 AUTHORS 👏" category because they don't have anything in common other than describing some of the most upsetting/bizarre scenarios I've read this year. Cyteen especially! Wowee!!!)

Brother Alive by Zain Khalid

Glory by Vladimir Nabokov

A Different Trek by David K. Seitz, which I mentioned as my vacation book for the Star Trek convention, but it's given me some great suggestions for more books, both fiction and otherwise. Also, I read... 11 more DS9 books this year.

#books #comics #book recommendations

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marxistgnome · 1 year

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If threshold was a ds9 episode it would revolve around sisko bringing the lizard babies back to the station (cue fun bonding sequence) and trying to raise them as his own but starfleet wants to take them to do tests cos wtf???? And odo is admant that they not be raised in a lab so he helps sisko sneak them off the station and put them back in the pool

#star trek #ds9 #the ONLY scenario where sisko abandons the threshold babies #threshold

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thegeminisage · 1 month

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i guess it star trek update time. last night we watched ds9's "armageddon game" and tng's "sub rosa."

armageddon game (ds9):

this one was so fun and evil. i LOVE when obrien and julian are besties and yes they fought once but they were besties in most of this

NIGHTMARE scenario for keiko. im glad they actually put her in this instead of it happening offscreen but im sad there was no reunion :(

keiko realizing the recording had been tampered with bc of the coffee thing and then finding out that wasnt true is actually lowkey terrifying. they came THIS CLOSE. what a twist ending

quark's toast was like...strangely sweet. good for him.

i cant believe DAX was gonna keep julians journals instead of sending them back to his parents?? i also cant believe julian kept a diary for years and then decided to hand all of his diaries to his crush lol like he is insane

julian foot fetish also. don't think i forgot. i didn't. what a loser <3

these aliens being so committed to peace they'll kill people is actually kind of funny. you missed the point by lightyears

i liked how serious sisko was in this episode. he was wearing his very very very serious face. he was not fucking around. i also liked that he believed keiko INSTANTLY. on tng picard would have offered 1000000 other reasons why keiko was out of her mind bc in fairness she does sound fucking nuts but sisko believed her right away and immediately started an investigation because he trusts his people and also by extension their spouses. ugh i love him SO MUCH sisko for PRESIDENT

sub rosa (tng):

wow. wow wow wow wow wow

where do i even. BEGIN. with sub rosa

so, i knew there was a sex ghost in this episode and i was sort of aware that the sex ghost fucked or wanted to fuck beverly. but i had NO IDEA what i was truly in for

firstly, let's get this out of the way, this is a FAMILY SEX GHOST. "all the howard women have green eyes" "nana was over 100 and had a lover!" can you IMAGINE having like a family vibrator. the same vibrator your grandma used. getting off to her erotic diary entries. getting off, i repeat, to your grandma's stories about your grandma HAVING SEX with the SAME SEX GHOST who is chatting you up. beverly is INSANE

deanna took all this with so much good sportsmanship. first of all, i'm so thrilled that they're the kind of girlfriends who can share their wet dreams with one another in GRAPHIC detail. secondly, her fucking face journeys when beverly was talking about this shit in ten forward I REPEAT IN PUBLIC SHE WAS LIKE YEAH I WAS GETTING OFF TO MY GRANDMA'S DIARY

picard SOOOO put off that beverly would leave his ass to fuck a 30yo with long hair. JUSTICE! who's skipping breakfast now bitch. run around on her one more time i fucjing dare you. you WILL respect the woman you impregnated with the affair baby

speaking of affair babies, when beverly was like yeah all my family members have green eyes except mom and me i was like......is SHE the affair baby? sadly, no. but i know she had one

beverly looked the most beautiful she's ever been by the way. real bodice ripper shit. picard you blew it so bad

speaking of bodice ripper, there is a version of this where it's very serious and an allegory for abuse and the sex was dubiously consensual etc etc etc. this has happened to deanna so many times and it was so icky because it was obviously a male fantasy which objectified her. fortunately i don't think anyone can be expected to take a story seriously when it involves your grandma's sex ghost so i was perfectly happy to have a good time

WHEN THEY EXHUJED THE BODY. BY SIMPLY BEAMING IT OUT OF THE GROUND.

nana who looked not even a little bit dead sitting up in her coffin bc she was possessed and zapping the daylights out of geordi and data. PLEASE.

also, sorry, i nearly forgot, but picard walking in on her while she was quite literally fucking the sex ghost. ohhhh i KNOW he was sick

OH YEAH AND. the gravestones saying vader and mcfly. set designers i love you forever

anyway, hands down the funniest and perhaps my favorite tng episode of all time. that was the first real laugh i've had in almost a week

TONIGHT: ds9's "whispers" and tng's "lower decks."

#personal #star trek blogging #ds9 lb #tng lb

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