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bronzeagepizzeria · 1 year
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society if people understood what rose actually meant by “but he’s not you”
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spaceagesparkledust · 3 months
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Random Doctor Who hcs Part 2
Martha tries to teach 10 how to cook. It isn’t that he can’t. But he’s also not the best and he needs something substantial in his life. He absolutely hates cooking in 1969 but Martha refuses to do all the work. 
Each moon landing Martha and Ten dressed as different people. It became a competition on finding the most outrageous costume in the TARDIS closets. 
I am a firm believer in Ten and Martha becoming better friends after she leaves. I need this in my life. 
Tentoo and Rose hold hands all the time. All. The. Time. 
Nine walks around the TARDIS without his jacket on sometimes. It freaks everyone out. Rose stares at him a bit too long, trying to figure out if she likes it or not. 
“What” 
“You’ve got….arms.” 
Jack flirts with him about it. Rose says it makes him look soft and Nine decides right then and there he’s never not wearing the jacket again. (This is a lie, he’s willing to look soft when Rose looks at him like that)
Listen listen listen forget the flow of time for a second: Rose, Martha, and Donna all get along like a house on fire. They have the best times. They can and will fly the TARDIS without the Doctor just watch them. 
Rose takes Tentoo to look at animal shelter dogs when he misses K-9. (They wind up getting two dogs and name one K-9.2)
Rose meets Jenny on one of her dimension hops. She never finds out she’s related to the Doctor but keeps thinking she’s familiar the entire time. 
Wilf brings the Doctor home sometimes like you’d bring in a stray cat.
I love the idea that Tentoo takes Wilf’s name. John Wilfred Tyler-Noble.
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gingerdunbroch · 4 months
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a list of vague descriptions of doctor x rose fics i’ve read and can’t remember the names of
one where Rose gives Tentoo the cold shoulder post Journey’s End to try and spare him but he gets curious, and finds out Rose and the rest of Torchwood are being forced to work for the daleks—the story’s climax involves daleks asking either Rose or Tentoo to pick a planet to destroy, they put in “coordinates” that initiate a self-destruct sequence, but i’m pretty sure they both survive, if rather injured
one where Rose predicts her own future via drawings; pretty sure it was canon compliant thru Journey’s End and i think it was on teaspoon (whofic)
a WIP that was like 6 chapters long on fanfiction.net where Rose had just taken over her father’s company after he died and she’s so stressed that Donna (her secretary? i think?) recommends she go to this wellness center to see AU!Ten (i think his name is Smith?). oh and Martha works at the center too. but yeah John is like an energy healer or smthn like that?
i think this one was called like Rose on the Vine or smthn and it was on ao3 and had a sequel, but it was an all human AU where Rose was a stripper and keeping it a secret from her friends
a Ten/Rose reunion fic where Rose mentions having run into Eight in Paris while Dimension Hopping and spending the night with him
a Nine/Rose fic where nine has to go to a planet that isn’t human-safe so he makes rose a sonic pen-type thing that can um, simulate different…parts for…fun times
a Ten/Rose reunion!fic where Ten makes it back to Pete’s World, and disguises himself to suss out if Rose is happy/would want to come back. i think it was on teaspoon
a Tentoo/Rose fic where Tentoo has nightmares and Rose gives him this special stone that helps, and eventually he finds out that he’s the one who gave it to Rose in the first place (i think the implication was she was going to kill herself pre-dimension cannon), meaning he has to complete a circular paradox. i remember Tentoo wouldn’t let past Rose touch him bc then she’d know he was human. i think it was on teaspoon. it’s possible this could have been 2 separately posted connected fics and i’m just smushing them into one
a fic where the Doctor and Rose have a daughter before he regenerates into Ten and then he has to get his daughter used to his new face, I think it mostly took place as a telepathic conversation between them? also i think it was on teaspoon
a fic where Ten keeps licking Rose and can taste her emotions, no idea where i read it tho
a fic (2 parts, on i think both teaspoon and ao3) where right after Bad Wolf Bay pt 2 Rose and Tentoo get teleported to an elf-like world where “queen” Rose has to settle a debate about ginger between three farmers and Tentoo is given a red velvet suit and then gets drunk from consuming too much ginger
a 2 chapter fic (on tsp?) where Ten and Rose observe their future selves getting it on in like a meadow on an alien planet and then Ten gets squirrely about fulfilling the circular paradox, saying “time is in flux”. there’s a scene where they’re talking to each other on either side of Rose’s bathroom door. chapter 2 is them going back to complete the paradox
i’ll add more to this post as i randomly remember more fics i neglected to bookmark anywhere
fingers crossed someone sees this post and remembers the name of at least one of these fics!
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mizgnomer · 1 year
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A collection of Ten and TenToo
Excerpts from Doctor Who Magazine #398, as reported by Benjamin Cook:
It’s Monday, 20 March 2008.  A man who looks like David Tennant paces around the Dalek Crucible.  This man is Colum Sanson-Regan.  He’s Irish, not Scottish, and he only looks like David from behind, really.  But that’s good enough.  He’s sporting the brown pinstripe suit, while David - the real David - wears the blue suit.  All day long, the lead actor and his double have been dashing off every half hour or so, to swap costumes.  Each scene is shot once with David in the brown suit, and then once again with him in the blue.  Colum likewise.  Logistically, it’s a nightmare. How is David keeping track of which Doctor is which?  “Well, obviously, the colour-coding is a clue,” he laughs, “but I know what you mean - are they two distinct performances?  Well, slightly.  There are different thought processes going on.  And I’ve underlined them in different colours in the script, which is a big deal.  It shows I mean business!  They’re different characters, but they’ve both got to be the Doctor.  It’s the same character, but it’s not.  It’s a tricky one, because Rose, at the end, you want to feel that she is left with the person that she loves, but also that she isn’t.  It’s quite a subtle, ambiguous ending for Rose.” Which suit does David prefer: the brown or the blue?  “I change my mind, actually.  The blue suits are getting a bit baggy,” he says, “but we’ve got some new ones coming in, which is great.  If you look at the brown suit now, it’s beginning to get a bit tatty.  But I don’t mind that.  I quite like a bit of tatty.”  And did he enjoy getting naked in the TARDIS in Journey’s End? DWM can’t imagine so.  “No, not really,” he confirms.  “It came at the end of a long shoot.  You don’t exactly have a chance to go to the gym when you’re filming Doctor Who every month, so it wasn’t ideal timing.  But it was very quick.”
Bonus: David Tennant and Colum Sanson Regan, David's stand-in for whichever Doctor he wasn't currently playing
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pseudosaprophyte · 8 months
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gang… i've been thinking about this and... will i be shot on sight if i say i don’t like tentoo or that ending.
like out of the endings for rose that we could have realistically gotten, i guess it’s one of the better ones, but it still falls flat in a major way to me. like i know it really is the doctor, no real difference except for the need for rose’s humanity and empathy to make him a better person, but like imagine that.
this man you met, im gonna say 2 years ago but of course it’s hard to tell, who’s saved your life and you’ve saved his, more than you can count, who grabbed your hand and told you to run, who got you out of a monotonous life you thought you’d never escape, who showed you the stars and the future and new species and horrible destruction and your dad who died when you were just a baby, who sacrificed his life for yours right after you did for him, who turned into a being inspired by you, by your love, who you fell in love with and fell in love with you back, and then you’re separated. and you’ll never see each other again. but you never give up. and you get back to him. but of course it can’t be that easy, so you’re separated again. but something happens and there’s a hand and regeneration energy and a brilliant donna noble, and now there’s another him, and he can grow old with you, and he can say “i love you” when the other him can’t, so you should be so happy, this should be your happy ending, but honestly, could you ever be able to wake up next to him and look at him and not think “this isn’t the man i traveled with”, “that isn’t the hand that i held all that time”, “those aren’t the legs that ran beside me” like i genuinely don’t think i’d ever be able to get out of my head that it isn’t the same man, i think it would drive me crazy.
not to mention that it isn’t a happy ending for the doctor, rose thinks it is because now there’s a brilliant hilarious time lady by his side in the form of donna, but rose doesn’t know how short-lived that is, how soon after he has to make her forget how important and brilliant she is. and then he’s alone again. and he’s alone until he dies. and then he’s a new man again and his feelings change and he’s born out of guilt and isolation this time, not love, not devotion.
like how can you look at that and see a good ending.
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katelynsimpsince2016 · 5 months
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because i’m a timepetals girlie first and foremost i guess i have to talk about how some believe that 14’s ending is very much reminiscent of rose’s ending with tentoo’s. and that some aren’t a huge fan of that.
from my perspective 14’s ending is a continuation of journey’s end. tentoo’s ending is all about concluding the doctor’s arc about longing to be human and his desire to settle down with rose: the one adventure he can never have. through tentoo the doctor gets to have that. but 14’s ending doesn’t have that same theme. yes donna says the famous line about the one adventure the doctor has never had but in reality it’s got a lot more to do with trauma and the doctor finally choosing to stop running. this is why i don’t entirely agree with the criticism that 14’s ending is just tentoo’s repackaged because they’re about two entirely different themes. yes they both centre around the doctor getting this impossible happy ending but one’s about the doctor’s desire to be human and the other is about the doctor’s trauma. they’re just not the same and i believe it’s better to view it as an over-arching story with tentoo just being a single example of the doctor not allowing himself happiness, alongside the numerous other sacrifices the doctor has made for the sake of others, and 14 finally giving himself that, concluding the doctor’s overall arc.
the doctor infamously hates endings so him choosing this definitive ending for himself really exemplifies how far he’s come. going back to rose’s ending, although i believe her’s is ultimately a happy one, there is definitely an underlying sense that she’s being pushed to make a choice. ten is very obviously compelling her to choose tentoo despite the fact she hasn’t been given any proper time to think this through. i’ve always read this scene as the doctor desperately trying to give rose this perfect happy ending so that he won’t kill himself immediately afterwards. as long as she gets this unambiguous, definitive fairytale ending with a doctor who can give her the love she deserves then he’ll be fine. then he’ll be alright. in the end, ten sacrifices his own happiness so that rose can have her’s.
14 on the other hand is choosing himself. although he’s choosing an ambiguous fate by settling down with the noble family it’s ultimately a happy one. i think it’s intentional that we don’t know where he’ll end up after this. who he’ll regenerate into next - if he can even still regenerate. this is character development!! instead of pushing donna away like he did rose and trying to chug along like everything’s fine the doctor decides to step into the unknown. he isn’t the same anymore and he might outlive the nobles but what matters the most is that right now he’s the happiest he’s ever been. he allows himself to get to have that impossible happy ending. he’s choosing to stop running - something that the show has been building up to for 18 years: for the doctor to let go of his burden. he’s seen so many chances for him to permanently settle down fly right past him (11 protecting trenzalore, 12 living on derilium for 24 years with river and obviously rose choosing tentoo) but now he’s deciding to stay.
furthermore, to argue that this conclusion isn’t built up enough and just comes out of the blue i just plain disagree with. in the very first special donna questions the doctor on why it’s always “one last trip” and tells him that they could do normal things like go for coffee and hang out like mates. there’s a million reasons why the doctor ‘can’t settle down’ but to donna settling down is as simple as pie. this shows the extent of her love for him and how at the end of the day she just wants him to be alright. she has such a deep connection with him that she knows that the doctor continuing to run isn’t good for him. secondly, in wild blue yonder there’s a lot of focus put on the doctor’s deteriorating mental state and his desperate wish to be understood by donna but also how deathly afraid he is of opening up. copy-donna points out how they haven’t had a chance to talk and that “It’s always like that with you. Running from one thing to the next” yet again reminding the audience of how the doctor hasn’t stopped running. on top of this we see how the flux and the revelation about him being the timeless child have completely uprooted his sense of purpose and identity. he blames himself for the destruction of half of the universe and it’s clearly ripping him apart far more than anything else has before. he can’t go on like this anymore. finally, in the giggle the doctor admits that he doesn’t believe in himself anymore, how he’s all “sonic, and TARDIS and Timelord” but once you strip that all back, get rid of the toys, there’s nothing left. he literally says “What am I?”
throughout these specials we see the doctor in a state we rarely see, especially for such a prolonged amount of time: he’s directionless. the doctor never really knows where he’s going next but at least he’s excited, at least he feels some kind of thrill. i don’t get that vibe from 14. he doesn’t know who he is anymore, and he needs to figure out who he is. regenerating again wouldn’t fix that.
all that’s keeping him going pretty much is donna. getting to settle down i think is the only satisfactory conclusion for 14 and him dying - even though he was ready to do so - would’ve just been too depressing and might’ve sent out the wrong message. bi-generation recontextualises regeneration as being about birth instead of death. you don’t have to keep running, you don’t have to keep moving on and pushing everything down. you can finally feel what you’ve been ignoring. all that pain, all that anguish, all that love. you can rest now. you can go home. and that doesn’t mean you have to die. doctor who isn’t about tragedy anymore and that isn’t a bad thing. although this version of the doctor getting the impossible happy ending isn’t as bittersweet as tentoo’s ending, it doesn’t make it any less thematically significant. 14 was prepared for his time to be over, more so than most other doctors. but just this once, everybody lives, just this once, he lives
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I said I’d elaborate on this later so here goes
WHY TENTOO X ROSE IS THE PERFECT ENDING
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A lot of people think tentoo x rose is a happy ending only within the scope of the show—as in, it’s the best possible outcome considering that it’s a tv show and that David and Billie couldn’t have stayed on forever.
I fundamentally disagree.
(disclaimer that this is just my opinion and I think people can and should write whatever makes them happy!!)
Let’s imagine David and Billie were immortal and were willing to stay on the show forever—tentoo x rose is still the happiest ending they could’ve had.
Why? Here’s a few things we need to understand—
1) Doomsday would’ve happened even if Billie didn’t leave the show in s2
Doomsday, or a doomsday-equivalent, would’ve happened anyway. The Doctor and Rose would’ve been split up somehow simply because a relationship between an immortal and mortal is inherently doomed. Even if their separation wasn’t sudden and accidental, it would happen. The Doctor and Rose were doomed from the start, and this is a huge part of why the Doctor never actually acts on his feelings (he was only going to confess his feelings on BWB the first time because he genuinely thought he would never see Rose again.) I do believe that if Doomsday hadn’t happened, they would’ve eventually gotten into some sort of relationship, simply due to the intensity of their feelings, but it would never be carefree! The Doctor would be constantly burdened by the fact that he’s going to have to live for centuries after this human, and he’d never let himself be 100% open and vulnerable with the woman he loves. Because it’s going to really, really hurt soon enough.
2) Being immortal is NOT A GOOD THING
Now you might say, the earlier problem could be solved simply by making Rose immortal—she’d stay with the Doctor forever and she’d never have to leave him, but a constant theme throughout seasons 1-4 is that immortality is not desirable. There is a constant motif of “living too long”, whether it be from Jack, the Face of Boe (cough), or the Doctor himself. Things are only precious and meaningful because they end—the human way of doing things? Fast, and bright, and temporary? It’s the right way. One of the many reasons the Doctor loves Rose is because she’s human—it’s a big part of why he’s attracted to her in the first place. Besides, an immortal Rose would mean having to outlive her family, her friends, everyone she’s ever known—who else has experienced that? Oh, yeah. The Doctor. And I can’t imagine him wanting her to go through the same thing under any circumstances.
3) The Doctor wanted to be human.
The Doctor, and the Tenth Doctor in particular, wants to be human. It’s peppered here and there throughout the first four seasons, but there’s this underlying current of wistfulness in him (“I’ve never had a life like that”; “The one adventure I can never have”), not to mention the entirety of the Human Nature two parter, and I think to some extent Rose makes him feel human, and it’s his alienness that’s the big barrier in their relationship. She makes him want to be human, to be loved and to be free to love her as he wants to.
4) Rose constantly has to choose between her mum and the Doctor.
Now to be clear, there is no doubt in my mind that Rose would choose the Doctor over her mum. She has, several times, and I believe it’s totally in character.
But she shouldn’t have to! She shouldn’t have to choose between the Doctor and everything else that’s important to her, that makes her human. She shouldn’t have to be forced to never settle down because “the doctor never would” or to eventually become someone that isn’t Rose anymore, centuries and planets away from everything that made her her.
The Doctor doesn’t want this for her either.
Every time she has to make this particular choice, it breaks her heart, and it sure as hell doesn’t make the Doctor happy either. Tentoo gives her the chance to keep them both!❤️
5) The “happy” ending.
I know that ending up together and eventually having a kid is a very cliche happy ending, and I don’t think they’d be unhappy without a kid, but isn’t the sheer possibility a good thing?
It never would’ve been possible with the Time Lord Doctor, be it the differing physiology or the fact that he wouldn’t allow it to go so far. It would be something he could never give her, as his original self.
But tentoo could.
As has been pointed out in the discourse several times by @metacrisisdoctor (who you should totally follow btw!) so much of Ten and Rose’s season 2 arc is centred around domestics and settling down. They were always headed for this!
For a character as lonely as the Doctor to have someone to call his own, to not be the last of his species any more—that’s powerful stuff! He finally gets to have the full human experience, with all its ups and downs, and sure, it’s a very ordinary adventure but it is no less important 🥺
To conclude, Journey’s End is bittersweet, but it’s no roughshod, hastily put together ending because the cast wanted to leave. There was a LOT of thought put into it, and I will be forever grateful that a pairing as doomed as tenrose, somehow, MIRACULOUSLY, got a happy ending❤️
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quietwingsinthesky · 1 month
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I think, while I’m messing with shit anyway, that what I have to do for Tentoo in this AU is make her humanity a choice. Obviously, because I’m committed to the Chamelon Arch bit now, but also because it feels important that she chooses it. Even if there wasn’t much of a choice at all between that and a slow, painful death from not having nearly enough Time Lord in her to keep herself alive but too much to escape the burden of it.
Let’s set it like this—Donna burns because she’s trying to hold the universe in her head when she doesn’t, can’t, make enough room, and Tentoo is that universe without the fundamental physics to keep it in motion, collapsing in on herself no matter what she does.
Donna doesn’t get a say. That’s the tragedy the Doctor chooses for her. And the worst part is, maybe, that Tentoo has to watch and has to know that, gun to her best friend’s head, she’d do the same thing. Whatever the Doctor wants to claim about who she might be, whatever fire she was born in, they are, right now, still the same person. Until the moment Donna forgets, they’re the same person.
Because she’s got to start building herself somewhere, and she sets the foundation there. She won’t leave Donna. She’s survived having her hearts torn across dimensions before, she’ll live through it again, but even now, she has to know, losing Donna will kill her.
(She’s underestimating Rose, of course. She should know better. No one chooses themself as the crash dummy for a dimensional cannon unless they know they’d pick to stay where they land, no matter what breaks on the way. Maybe it isn’t the right choice, and god knows there will be five, ten, twenty, a hundred times Rose will regret it every time she realizes she’s never going to hear her mother’s voice again or see her little half-brother (full brother? the specifics of dimensional dna weren’t her specialty at her torchwood) grow up. She’d never pick differently, though. Fix this point in time. It can never be changed, no matter how it hurts. That’s one of the first things she learned running with the Doctor.)
It doesn’t change what’s coming. I think she’d wonder how many regenerations she has. Maybe they split the last one right down the middle, and neither of them will come out this next death whole but only half-formed and struggling to breathe. I think she wonders what would win if she asked for a breath of regeneration to fix herself from the Doctor she came from: his need to save a life, or the pragmatic decision to let his own end if it might save someone else in the future. And I think she realizes that she doesn’t want that power in his hands. Donna’s mind was spinning out a thousand new ideas the Doctor never would have dreamed of. Tentoo only needs one.
There is no halfway measure to it. All or nothing. Cling to being a Time Lord till her dying breath or roll the dice on humanity, hope she comes out the other side as someone she recognizes.
She’s choosing Donna. She’s choosing Rose. She’s choosing this terrifying not-quite-death, a new self, to change into someone who can survive this.
Because right now, she’s looking into the eyes of the man who never would. And part of her hates him for it so much she could scream. And part of her understands far too well and only wishes she had the words to fix it. To be honest, she doesn’t know which part is more Donna and which part is more Doctor. The lines are more than a little blurred. They think one thing in unison when she settles into the Chameleon Arch, and that’s I hope you’re happy like this.
She’s going to become Johanna Tyler (nee Smith.) (Not at first. Give her a little time. Gender is hard enough for humans, let alone aliens turned human who didn’t have it figured out either way.) Tomorrow, she’ll wake up from the strangest dream she’s ever had, and her best friend will be recovering from amnesia, and her partner will ask her if she’s okay many more times than she thinks she’d ever need, and the world will spin without her feeling it. She wouldn’t change her choice, either.
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amyjsoba · 1 year
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Why I stopped watching Doctor Who after Ten and why I decided to get caught up
David Tennant coming back as The Doctor has given me so many feelings that it’s taken a over a week to parse them out.
These feelings first begin in the fall of 2018—4 years ago. Despite being a sci-fi nerd, I am late to Doctor Who. I know a bit about what happens from being on the internet and I decide to give it a go.
Eccleston’s Doctor is enjoyable. Series 1 is finding it’s footing. Some episodes are cheesy, some are heartfelt, and some are…not great.
Nine regenerates, and I am not prepared for my emotional reaction to Ten.
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I have loved many characters over the years. I love my own characters, of course. They’re in my head and we chat all the time. I think about a character I cooked up when I was 16. He is a middle-aged, divorced, ship captain who is given the task to find a suitable planet for humanity. I loved him when I created him. I love him still.
I love my current characters an absurd amount. The librarian, the scientist, the heir. They are all in my dreams, and they are real. I hope that one day, other people will love them too.
I love other people’s characters. They leave impressions, just like people. I carry them with me wherever I go. They sink in and become part of me in ways that are different from my own characters.
Yes, I have loved many characters over the years. So many I have lost count. But I can count on one hand the number of characters I have fallen in love with.
It’s not the same thing, is it? If you’ve fallen in love with a character, you know. There’s a subtle yet striking difference.
As I watch Dr. Who, I fall in love with Ten.
It takes maybe two episodes—oh who am I kidding. By the end of the Christmas special I am in love. Head over heals, madly in love with Ten.
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The big grin. The puppy eyes. The funny quips and chaotic energy. The hair. The specs. All of him. He is adorable and attractive. All my boxes are checked.
In series two he is SO HAPPY. He’s delightful to watch. Every moment DT is on screen as Ten he is brighter than the sun.
Part of that sunshine is because of Rose. Ten is so obviously in love, and Doomesday rips out my heart and then squeezes it between bloodied claws while I am forced to watch. Ten burns up a sun to say goodbye and is on the brink of confessing his love when time runs out.
God it sucks. It hurts. This fuckin’ show.
For most of series three he mopes, and then he picks up Donna in series four. Donna isn’t Rose, but Donna is his BFF and I can get on board with that. I love Donna. I’m not in love with Donna, understand, but I love her. She’s great.
And then Rose comes back and the show tries its best to give SOME kind of happy ending with Tentoo. But for me…it doesn’t satiate. Tentoo isn’t Ten. Ten has to stand there and watch the woman he loves kiss someone who is him…but not him (DT has commented on how much that sucks). Ten is still sad. And then, shortly after, he has to say goodbye to his BFF and erase her memories.
What the fuck, show. This is literally the worst. It’s so goddamn tragic I don’t know what to do with myself. I just want him to be happy for eternity.
No, just kidding, it gets worse. Because the regeneration is coming.
I do not—absolutely DO NOT—want Ten to go. There are so few episodes in each series. I need more. I haven’t spent enough time with him.
And then he looks at the camera with tears and says, “I don’t want to go.”
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Are you fucking kidding me. Is this for real.
Suddenly, understanding comes. A lightbulb. This character, the Doctor, will never be happy. It’s impossible. They are tragic. Everything turns to ash around them and almost everyone they love must be cut off from them and sometimes people die.
I push on. I watch the first episode of Matt Smith, but I cannot do this. I absolutely cannot. My heart is too broken. The character I’m in love with is gone. It doesn’t matter if Matt Smith is great (I’m sure he is). Doesn’t matter that there are good episodes to look forward to (Van Gogh)—I can’t. I literally have to grieve Ten. And the more cynical part of me says, “why should I watch a show where the main character will never be happy?”
You might find that dramatic. But this is my emotional state at the end of Ten.
I don’t watch Doctor Who after that.
Three years later, I see on my Twitter feed that DT is filming Dr. Who. I see this picture 👇
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Everyone, including me, thinks it’s a Ten special because what else would it be. Maybe I’ll watch it. Catherine Tate is filming, too. Can I bear watching Donna again? Knowing what happens? I love her. Not in love with her, understand, but I love her. And the ending she got broke me.
I’m apprehensive. Whatever—I still have a year or more to decide if I can handle watching the special.
And then this year…something unexpected happens. Thirteen regenerates into…DT? When I hear the news it stuns me. I watch the clip. He’s…back. Properly back. The teeth comment makes me laugh through my tears (yes there are tears). I watch it again. And again. And again.
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I learn we are getting THREE specials. DT is the fourteenth Doctor. Something blooms in my chest. Something…hopeful. I’m going to see him again but so is Donna. Catherine filming for something that canonically takes place after Donna lost her memories means there’s hope for that wrong to be corrected. Even if she doesn’t continue venturing with him. I’m definitely watching the specials—and who knows, maybe after that, too.
I start watching clips of Dr. Who again. I’ve missed Ten. I laugh. I think…maybe I should get caught up. Maybe I can watch it now.
I know what happens to the companions of Eleven and Twelve and I know the writing isn’t great in later seasons but—he is coming back. I can do it.
I watch the first two episodes of Matt Smith as Eleven. I laugh (I didn’t laugh at all when I watched it 4 years ago). I probably won’t fall in love with Eleven, but I think I can love him.
This is a good show—even if it’s a bit tragic.
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soulless-angel25 · 8 months
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I think I make it pretty obvious, but I am a massive Rose Tyler fan. And before any of you say it's because she was my first companion, she wasn't. My first companion was Clara and my first doctor was 12 (whom I love dearly).
I just really like Rose's character. I like her story because of her.
And people are allowed to not like her. But if you don't, for fucks sake don't scream at people who do. In comments or reblogs. Your just being a massive fucking dick. Also, quick heads up: This post will contain a lot of quotes from Doctor Who. Alongside some crude language. Some might find offense to the topics I discuss in this or how I wrote it. I will not apologize for that, nor will I attempt to make this friendlier.
Continuing on. But if you don't like her on the basis of her and the Doctor being shipped or in a romantic relationship. Then by that logic you shouldn't like River, or Clara, or Yaz. Or anyone that the Doctor has had romantic interactions with and was/is a love interest. Because no matter how you feel, Rose and the Doctor were romantic.
No ifs ands or buts about it. Especially considering some moments that happen in canon. A few that spring to mind are: "I could save the world but lose you." -9th Doctor, Season 1 Episode 5 'World War 3' to Rose ^- This quote is 9 all but admitting he's in love with her. The thought that saving the world would mean losing her is something he couldn't bear to happen. "What use are emotions, if you will not save the woman you love?" -Dalek / "I killed her once I can't do it again." -9th Doctor, Season 1 Episode 6 'Dalek' ^- Even a fucking Dalek could tell he was in love with her. A Dalek who had only recently begun to understand feelings outside of hatred, because of Rose. "He[Metacrisis 10] needs you. That's very me." -10th Doctor, Season 4 Episode 13 'Journey's End' to Rose "But if I believe in one thing... just one thing... I believe in her!" -10th Doctor, Season 2 Episode 9 'The Satan Pit' to The Beast/Satan ^- This is part of a larger quote but this is the most memorable part. The whole thing is: "But that implies, in this big grand scheme of gods and devils, that she's just a victim. Well, I've seen a lot of this universe. I've seen fake gods and bad gods and demi-gods and would-be gods. I've had the whole pantheon. But if I believe in one thing... just one thing... I believe in her!"
There are a few other examples that I can think of but I can't remember the exact phrasing. Like when Donna asked 10 what Rose and him were and he said, "We were... together." Those few obviously point out the Doctor's feelings for Rose. And even if you want to ignore those you can't ignore the fact that in Journey's End, Rose and Tentoo end up together. Comics even stating that they have a daughter together (Mia: Empire of the Wolf).
Hell even later on in the show when RTD wasn't the showrunner anymore there were still references to Rose. Like in Season 6's Episode 8 'Let's Kill Hitler' when the Doctor stumbles into the TARDIS and the emergency program activates and at first it's him, in his 11th incarnation, his current one. He says[pleads] "Oh, give me someone I like!" and the TARDIS chose Rose as the first choice, and don't give me any bullshit. The TARDIS is fully sentient and can understand the Doctor (stated in Season 6's Episode 4 'The Doctor's Wife'). The TARDIS heard the Doctor and chose someone she thought he'd like.
Oh! You want another example? How about Season 7's Episode 9 'Hide', featuring 11 and Clara when he's talking to her after the episode adventure is pretty much concluded about love, "It’s the oldest story in the universe. This one or any other. Boy and girl fall in love, get separated by events–war, politics, accidents in time. She’s thrown out of the hex or he’s thrown into it. Since then they’ve been yearning for each other across time and space. Across dimensions. This isn’t a ghost story, it’s a love story." Some specific points are literally parallels to Rose and the Doctor.
There's probably a few others that could be pointed out that are slipping my mind right now. Oooh how about this one: "Blimey" -9 / "Don't laugh." -Rose / "You look beautiful. Considering." -9 / "Considering what?" -Rose / "That you're a human." -9th Doctor, Season 1 Episode 3 'The Unquiet Dead'
If those don't read to you as the Doctor in love I don't know what would.
And if your wondering 'where is the evidence for Rose having feelings HUH smart guy???' ... do I need point out the episode where Rose canonly confesses her love for him? I do? Oh, ok. Here ya go: [Rose, choking on tears] "I... I love you." / [10 looking at her] Quite right too. (pause) And I suppose... if it's my last chance to say it... Rose Tyler - {connection ends} - Season 2 Episode 13 'Doomsday' ^- She FUCKING CONFESSED HER LOVE TO HIM!!!! And even though we don't actually know what 10 was going to say it is heavily implied that he was going to say 'I love you' back to her. Believing it would be his only chance ever. "You're never gonna see her again, your own mother!" -10 / "I made my choice a long time ago." -Rose, Season 2 Episode 13 'Doomsday' ^- Rose is willing to sacrifice being with her mother to stay with him. "How long are you gonna stay with me?"-10 / "Forever." -Rose, Season 2 Episode something ^- I can't remember the episode that this happens but I think it /might/ be School Reunion.
Even taking out the romantic stuff for their relationship they're friends.
Continuing to add more evidence from quote in the actual show: "So the year five billion, the sun expands, the earth gets roasted..." -10 / "That was our first date." -Rose / "We had chips!" -10, Season 2 Episode 1 'New Earth' ^- Oh? Would you look at that! Both of them think of that as their first date. And-AND in the episode that's mentioned, Season 1 Episode 2 'The End of the World' after the adventure they go to have chips and 9 says he doesn't have any money making Rose say that he's a 'cheap date'. Which he doesn't deny. "I don't age. I regenerate. But humans decay. You wither and you die. Imagine watching that happen to someone you..." -10 / "What, Doctor?" -Rose / "You can spend the rest of your life with me. But I can't spend the rest of mine with you. I have to live on, alone. That's the curse of the Timelords." -10, Season 2 Episode 3 'School Reunion' ^- My oh my, its almost like he's in love with her but holding back cause he doesn't want to see her die before his very eyes. "You can tell you're getting older, your assistants are getting younger." -Sarah Jane Smith / "I'm not his assistant." -Rose / "No?" [to 10] "Get you, tiger." -Sarah Jane Smith, Season 2 Episode 3 'School Reunion'
"Can you build another Tardis?" -Rose / "They were grown, not built. And with my home planet gone... we're kind of stuck" -10 / "Well, it could be worse; this lot said they'd give us a lift." -Rose / "And then what?" -10 / "I don't know. Find a planet, get a job, live a life, same as the rest of the universe." -Rose / "I'll have to settle down. With a house or something - a proper house with... with, with doors and things - carpets! Me! Living in a house!... Now that, that - that is terrifying." -10 / "You'd have to get a mortgage!" -Rose / "No!" -10 / "Oh yes!" -Rose / "No, I'm dying, that's it, it is all over." -10 / "What about me? I'd have to get one too!" [pause] "I don't know, we could have the same one, we could both... I don't know, share... or not. Whatever. I don't know, all sorts of..." -Rose / "Anyway" -10 / "We'll see." -Rose / [pause] "I promised Jackie I'd always take you back home" -10 / "Everyone leaves home in the end." -Rose / "Not to end up stuck here." -10 / " Yeah, but stuck with you - that's not so bad." -Rose / "Yeah?" -10 / "Yes." -Rose, Season 2 Episode 8 'The Impossible Planet' ^- Good gods look at that! Rose being fully accepting and telling 10 that being stuck with him wouldn't be so bad and him not being able to believe that someone would want to stay with him and he's like 'yeah?' because someone willingly staying with him and never leaving is such a foreign concept.
"They did what?" -10 / "I'm sorry?" -Detective Inspector Bishop / "They left her[Rose] where?" -10 / "Just... in the street." -Detective Inspector Bishop / "The street. They left her in the street. The took her face, and just chucked her out and left her in the street. And as a result, that makes things... simple. Very, very simple. Do you know why?" -10 / "No." -Detective Inspector Bishop / "Because now, Detective Inspector Bishop, there is no power on this earth that can stop me!" -10, Season 2 Episode 7 'The Idiot's Lantern' ^- As dark as this may seem, it certainly isn't 10's worst after losing Rose. That honour would go to when he was fully willing to DIE after losing her as we saw in 'Turn Left'. Rose is so fucking special to him that any time she is harmed and gone he loses it. She is the one holding him together.
Also for fucks sake she was constantly a presence in Season's 3 and 4 of the revival. Also also, during several episodes starting as early as Season 1 Episode 2 'The End of the World' people assume that they are together romantically.
And if you try to pull; "Oh but River is canonically married to the Doctor!" so is Rose. She is married to Tentoo, who is the Doctor. Also River is not solely married to the Doctor, it is established in canon that River was/has been married to multiple people outside of the Doctor. While married to him.
Reality is I could expand upon this post a lot more, but I'm choosing to cut myself off here.
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thirdeyeblue · 1 year
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Hi, I'm a new Doctor who fan and I love fanfiction, but I'm not much of a writer. I want to try writing a Ten/Rose fanfiction. (On the fence between a simple Human College AU or a Regency Era AU, love the esthetic, but not that knowledgeable on the troupes.) So I am reaching out to writer I love, to ask if there are any tips for characterization, for Rose and Ten. I love their dynamic, but I don't want to make Ten too childish or Rose to lovesick.
Hi! First of all, thanks so much for loving my fics! 💖💖💖💖 And welcome to being a Whovian 🥰
I’ve never personally written an AU — I intend to in the near future — but as far as characterizations go, there are a few helpful bits of advice. The BEST advice I can offer you is to watch the show. A lot. At least watch Ten/Rose compilations/clips on YouTube.
Let yourself really hear the lines back in your head. Memorize their little “isms” (such as Ten’s “wellllll” and “brilliant!”) and other beats in the way they say things. When you’re writing them, think about the characters actually saying the line you’re writing. Does it sound wrong? Then it probably just needs a bit of tweaking, is all.
For example, how would Rose say she was getting scared? She wouldn’t say “Gee Doctor, I’m pretty damn scared right now” — she’d probably say something more akin to, “Doctor, something feels a bit… off,” or “I think something’s wrong — I don’t like this”.
And how would the Doctor say he’s having a great time? He wouldn’t say “This is awesome, Rose! I’m having a blast!” He’d be more likely to say, “What do you think, Rose? Isn’t this brilliant?” Or maybe, “Oh, have a look at that — they’ve got those little cakes with the golden bits on top!”
The Doctor and Rose are relatively easy to figure out when it comes to their voices and cadences if you listen to them enough. If you’re still struggling even after watching episodes and clips and etc, I recommend reading fics by some of the best writers out there for characterizations.
A few recommendations (there are tons — these are just a few) would be Cereal, MegaBadBunny, and Lixabiz. All phenomenal at capturing Ten/Tentoo and Rose’s characters, and Lixabiz and Cereal both have AU’s that are fucking spectacular, if you want to see how they write those two in non-DW scenarios.
You can also check out the website ReadAllComics, which has almost all of the DW comic book content, and might be helpful for reading the characters as opposed to watching them.
All in all, it just takes a bit of practice. An exercise in just writing them in various situations couldn’t hurt, either. Even just practicing writing them having a regular interaction about nothing would be helpful. You’ll sort it out!
I also think it’s great that you’re reaching out to your favorite writers 💖 I hope you get lots of great advice!
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metacrisisdoctor · 1 year
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Agua Mala
Pairing: Tentoo/Rose
Summary: Rose almost loses the Doctor again and contemplates their mortality. Set during and immediately after the events of Big Finish's "Flight Into Hull"
Rating: T
NOTES: This is for the tentoorose gc ❤, and thanks to @thewollfgang for looking it over for me even though I was a huge baby about it.
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
This had been a massively stupid idea. Worst part is, it had been her stupid idea in the first place. Hers and dads, but mostly hers.
If Rose ever had any lingering doubts that the man she is stranded with is indeed her Doctor, this would have squashed them once and for all.
The only thing she can hear is her own heart pounding awfully as she watches the two people she loves most in any universe heading toward possibly crashing right into the bridge. They're watching it on the massive screen in Pete's office. Who even invented bridges anyway? They were stupid too. Zeppelin's? Also stupid.
One life. He has one life and he goes and does this when all she wanted was for him and mum to make up and not start throwing chips at each other every time they're in the same room.
Of course he does.
And he's not stupid. He knows that there are still nights where she wakes up gasping, drowning in dreams of universes where she'd lost him before she could find him again haunting her still. Dreams that are memories, really. She had lost him. She had watched him die. Dreams that were real for a while are the worst to have. And while being human together is a gift she had never imagined they would have, he's so much more fragile now. She constantly has to hold back from telling him to be careful, and she holds back only because she would never want to stop him from being who he really is.
He never presses her for details on those awful nights, though. He doesn't have to.
"Rose," he says softly, rubbing her back in the darkness of their room until she feels herself swim back up to return to reality and collapse into his arms where he's solid and alive.
But this isn't a dream. If it were she would be wearing the blue leather jacket she'd forgotten in Norway and decided she didn't need anymore anyway. Now that she is here to stay she has lots of jackets. And The Doctor has lots of suits as well. It's a form of acceptance. This is their world now. Day to day. And in such a short time, she'd grown painfully attached to it and all of the possibilities their now shared futures held.
A house, a mortgage... babies? Things she'd let herself long for before quickly pushing them away when she was 20, now could be real. It was dizzying.
She almost keeps it together, hoping the Doctor will pull it together like he always does with her, until she sees her dad's panicked face as his mobile slips from his fingers and drops onto the floor between them and shattering into pieces upon impact.
And then she's running.
She barely registers Pete calling her name, telling her to wait, to just hold on until they can get a zep or a car.
Rose couldn't and wouldn't wait even if she wanted to. Not when she could be moving toward them. Not when she could be doing something.
In the past six years Rose has gotten very good at running. She dodges pedestrians and cars with ease, controlling her breathing so she doesn't burn out too fast. Her calves and thighs begin to sting a bit as she nears her destination, which only makes her push harder to move faster.
But it's too late.
The sound of the impact is the only thing capable of breaking her focus, and it does. The horrendous sound the crash makes stops her so fast she almost falls foward. But it's her grief that bring her to her knees when she watches the cloud of smoke fill up the darkening skies.
A gutteral scream tears from her throat. The sound is lost in the gathering crowd of people reacting similarly. It doesn't matter because she can't hear anything anyway.
Except, these are people who have come off of the bridge, because of course the Doctor would save them before saving himself. That's what he does.
That's why she loves him.
The crowd scrambles around her. Dozens of people moving to get away. A few people bump into her in their panic. She distantly feels someone step on her fingers and yelps in pain. But she still can't move.
Down on the ground she feels the pain in her lungs from lack of oxygen spreading throughout her chest. But it's more than that. If she moves then she has to face reality: life without the Doctor. Life without mum. No, he'd save mum too. It's him who's gone. Her mind flashes to the image of his sonic slipping from his lifeless fingers after being pulled from a river just like this one, in a universe she wished she could forget visiting.
The other him hadn't considered this had he? Why would he, this one sure hadn't been thinking if he just let himself up and die.
But he'd wanted to live now, hadn't he? It was hard, and they were still adjusting but they were living. And they were happy.
"No, no." Rose says out loud to no one in particular. Her legs wobble as she forces herself to stand. "He wouldn't leave me."
As the crowd clears so does her mind a bit and she wipes her dirty hands on her jeans and focuses on trying to find them again.
Walking seems like a better option in her current state, so she does. One foot in front of the other, stumbling to the side sometimes in her numbed state, but walking.
Her senses start to come back slowly as she walks. She hears sirens. She hears commotion. She hears people. Life.
She follows the sounds and trusts them to lead her home.
And then she sees them.
They're soaking wet, wrapped in blankets and sitting in the back of an ambulance. And they're laughing. They're fucking laughing! They almost died and her stupid plan must have somehow worked.
Her relief, like her grief, paralyzes her. She watches them giggling and she's almost angry now. She is angry. Ready to storm over and giving them both a good talking to.
But then mum reaches behind her and pulls a bottle of champagne out of thin air. She pops it and takes a long swig before passing it to the the Doctor. He looks at it as if it's poison for a moment then shrugs and takes it.
Rose can't help the laugh that bubbles out of her as his face scrunches in disgust and he spits the fluid onto the ground, sticking his tongue out dramatically.
"Oi, don't go wasting that, you plum! Have you forgotten how to drink? You're supposed to swallow it."
He shakes his head, "That is absolutely disgusting. Thought this body might like it now that I'm part human, but no thank you. I'll stick to my tea."
"More for me then."
Jackie yanks the bottle back from him, pats his arm, and starts walking toward the closest police officer, demanding she let her use her mobile to call Pete.
The Doctor looks up then, and she can physically feel the moment he spots her. His smile is luminous and she knows she was right: he doesn't want to die. He wants to be here, with her. As he stands to move toward her the blanket draped around his shoulders slips to the ground. She makes a small sound, akin to a whimper, and lets her tears begin to fall again.
She doesn't register moving, just crashing into his arms.
"You're alive," Rose sobs, wrapping herself around him tightly as humanly possible and then even tighter still as she buries her face in his neck. Her clothes quickly dampen from holding him, but she barely notices and cares not at all.
"I'm alive."
He presses a kiss into her hair and sighs, sounding as relieved as she feels. Rose closes her eyes and breathes him in. Unable to stop herself, she dislodges her face to crash her lips onto his. He freezes a bit, like he still does sometimes, like he can't believe he is free to do this with her, before sliding his hand up her back and into her hair to kiss her back just as desperately.
Slowly, she pulls away enough so she can look at him properly and brings her trembling fingers up to his face to trace his features. His hands wrap around her wrists and rub the skin of her still erratic pulse, comforting her, then turns his head and kisses her filthy palm.
"I thought I lost you," she whispers, the "again" part left unsaid once more. But she feels it pressing against her teeth now.
And maybe it's the way she still can't seem to stop the tears leaking from her eyes, or how he can feel how hard she's trembling, but he doesn't have a witty response for her. Instead, he reaches up and cups the side of her face. He wipes her tears away and she realizes how bad her eyes are burning. She slides her hand down to his chest and feels his heart, his single heart, pumping away. She almost wants to crouch down and press her ear against it like she does in bed but that would be a bit weird, even by their standards, so this will have to do.
"He's alright, he's alright, he's alright," she thinks, attempting to will herself into composure.
"Rose, please tell me."
She inhales as deeply as she can and nods. His hands slide down to her arms and rub reassuringly as she tries to find the words to tell him about one of the worst moments in her life.
"When I was trying to find you, before, there was one world where I found you a moment too late. It was a universe where Donna never... and you just-"
Her voice cracks and he swallows hard, suddenly understanding. "After I lost you, you mean?"
She has spent so long thinking she had lost him, but he had lost her too. They had lost each other.
"Yeah. You... you drowned in the river. I had to watch them wheel your dead body away. All that stuff about humans withering and decaying and I'm the one who saw you die, and I couldn't- I don't understand why you didn't just regenerate."
"Oh, Rose. I didn't know. I'm so sorry."
"I don't want you to be sorry. I want to understand. Then... and this."
Her hand gestures vaguely at the destroyed bridge, knowing him well enough that it was his doing. The Doctor rubs the back of his neck and blows out a breath.
"I wasn't trying to kill myself, if that's what you're thinking," It was what she was thinking, but she doesn't say so, just lets him keep talking. "I was just being... well, I wouldn't say stupid, but..."
She laughs despite herself, watery still, and looks away.
"I think we've all been a little stupid today. I just thought, for a moment, maybe... you realized one life wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Maybe this all just... isn't enough."
Her voice is smaller than it has been in years, and it pains her to admit this. Because as much as she is stuck here, so is he. And she was the one never minded being stuck. Not as long as it was with him.
When she can bring herself to look at him again, he seems to have been stunned into silence. He's looking at her with a combination of confusion and hurt. He seems to consider her words.
"Not enough? Rose, I was so lost without you. I thought I would never see you again. That would be the only reason I'd myself let drown. I remember that moment- not wanting to die, but not wanting to live either. Feeling so hollow."
Her heart squeezes painfully, remembering that feeling all too well. At least she's had her family. Without Donna  he had no one.
"This isn't the same. I want to be here, with you. It's all I've ever wanted in the universe. All I've ever done is travel, I've never done this. I want to be here, with you and your family. And I want to be the Doctor you searched so hard for."
The freedom in which he says things like this now still knocks the wind out of her.
Rose shakes her head, "You already are. You always have been."
He looks almost close to tears himself now, "I know. Just needed a parallel Jackie Tyler to try to kill me for me to understand that being this new new new Doctor means I can't be as careless as I'm used to being, I suppose."
Anyone else would have missed the slighy tremor in his voice, but Rose doesn't.
"It's one thing to know you can't cheat death anymore, it's another to actually face that reality. Quite a wake up call."
His Adam apple bobs as he swallows, as if understanding that he will die someday. That they both will. It's a feeling she recognizes in herself. He looks painfully human and it makes her love him even more.
To truly love is to be vulnerable.
"Wait, hold on. Parallel mum? What even happened on that ride?"
The Doctor's expression is one of complete terror, "Two Jackie's. Two! I told myself it couldn't be true, but it was. Wanted to kill us, and not just me and your mother. All of us in this universe so the ones in her universe could take our place. Something was very wrong with her, but your mother handled it brilliantly."
Rose feels the affection in his words and looks over at her mother. She suddenly feels deeply grateful that she'll never have to say goodbye to her. At least not for a long, long time. Grateful that this world had the Doctor now too, not just her. Grateful she still has her dad and her brother. "She always does."
They'll definitely have to talk about this more later, but for now it doesn't matter.
As if on cue, Pete comes up from behind her and squeezes her shoulder affectionately before making a b-line to Jackie. As she watches her parents hug, the impossibility of their family strikes her deeper than ever.
She remembers, almost in flashbacks, the Doctor disappearing before he could say those words. She remembers holding her dad as he died. And here they all are now, living and together, despite it all. Her mind wanders to Sarah Jane, how she'd told her some things are worth getting your heartbroken for. She'd had no idea how right those words would come to be then. She'd had no idea how lucky she would be now.
"What about you?"
She turns her attention back to the Doctor, her brow furrowed in confusion. "What about me what?"
"Is this enough for you? I'm exactly not him, not anymore. I can't give you the stars. I'm not sure how long it'll be until the new TARDIS is ready, or if she ever will be."
Sometimes late at night when she comes into his lab, he's staring at the coral as the sun sets, as if willing it to grow faster. Her heart always hurts at the sight. She comes up from behind him and hugs him around the waist, resting her chin on his shoulder, hoping than the love she has for him will be enough for him to stay the rest of their lives.
In those quiet moments, she had always assumed that it was because he missed the TARDIS, missed traveling. Not because he thought she wouldn't want him without it.
The idea that he wouldn't be enough, that he would somehow be lesser because of his lack of TARDIS had never occurred to her.
Rose cups his face in her hands, "Doctor, I like traveling. But I love you. Not the other way around."
He smiles then, relieved. "Yeah?"
"Yes."
He kisses her then, softly this time, then presses her forehead against hers.
After a moment he pulls away as hands drop from his face. He grabs her hand in his again as they begin to walk toward Jackie and Pete at last. "Well, then. Reel me in my precious girl and take me home."
Rose laughs, "What?"
The Doctor chuckles, "A song I heard once. Made me think of you."
A blush rises to her cheeks, warmth spreading in her chest and easing the pain she'd felt when she thought she'd lost him. She sighs and rests her head against his shoulder as they walk toward their family.
Because of the Doctor's actions on the Zep today, so many others are doing the same. This world hadn't been off after all, it just needed the Doctor as much as she does.
Pete taps Jackie's shoulder and points at them with a smile. As she watches her mother's face light up, opening her arms to them, she thinks that maybe this wasn't such a stupid plan in the end.
-
Later, back in the safety of their flat, they hold each other gently under the warm water coming from shower head.
The silence that surrounds them, as the steam does, is a peaceful one.
And yet Rose can't help but ask one more thing of him.
"Just promise me no more rivers for a while, alright?"
The Doctor, her Doctor, runs his finger tips up and down her back. His touch between her shoulder blades soothing her into an almost sleep-like state.
He kisses her temple softly.
"Nah, no more rivers for me. Ever."
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tentoorose · 2 years
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I know that Billie Piper isn't a big fan of TenToo, but is David Tennant? Are there any quotes from him about Tentoo?
Hi, anon!
Sorry it took me a second to get around to answering this. Firstly, though I know this is a pretty commonly held belief, Billie doesn’t dislike Tentoo! In 2014 she said a spinoff focusing on Tentoo and Rose would be interesting, and in a 2019 interview for Doctor Who magazine she doubled down on this and said:
“I would like to see a one-off dark comedy about Rose and the Doctor in the parallel universe. But instead of it being really sci-fi, it can have an element of sci-fi but it’s very much about their romantic relationship and what’s happened to them in the time since we’ve left them. Just them cohabiting; their normal environment.”
Her feelings about Journey’s End as expressed in Confidential and echoed in this interview are, in my opinion, much more bittersweet than they are genuinely disappointed or disapproving. It’s not that she doesn’t like Tentoo — it’s just that his existence of course means a tragic parting between Ten and Rose, which, considering how much she self-admittedly ships them, is understandably a downer. So while her phrasing is definitely blunt, I think it’s fair to say she’s warmed to JE over time and is interested in exploring Tentoo and Rose as a couple!
In terms of DT, I’m not aware of too many solo interviews where he discusses Tentoo. There’s of course Confidential, and also WizardWorld 2018 (timestamp is 24:18). The latter isn’t super flattering, but they’re pretty clearly both joking, plus he confirmed they would have kids, which is lovely to hear!
In truth I think he mostly addresses Rose questions from the perspective of the Time Lord Doctor, which makes sense considering how long he spent playing him exclusively, as well as the extensive script rewriting JE was subjected to until nearly the last possible moment. It’s highly possible he wasn’t even fully keyed into what would and wouldn’t make it into the finished product until it was already completed. I know that’s not really a satisfying answer, but it’s unfortunately the only one I’ve got. Hopefully he will share more thoughts as we approach the 60th!
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deardiary17 · 3 years
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My fics for 04.07.2021
(first part of the list can be found here)
Please, notice that the highest rating of my works is T.
Lost : Rose goes on a sleepwalking trip after the events of "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances". Nine x Rose
Confusion : DI Alec Hardy meets DS Rose Tyler in an unexpected place. Alec x Rose
Enough is enough :  Exactly what it says on the tin: Flirting + Interrogation + Accidental touches.   Alec x Rose
Glass walls :  Alec and Rose have a row after she was abducted during the investigation.  Alec x Rose
My Nail Lady (WIP, multichapter) :  A lawyer and a nail technician working opposite each other in the shopping centre. Do they run in different circles? Or is there more to the relationship than the person's interests and career choice? Ten x Rose
The Strings :  A different way of Nine and Rose meeting in 1x01 "Rose".  Nine x Rose
Delight it is in Youth and May :  Rose Tyler ponders her beauty and youth while trying to accept her humanity. Ten x Rose
Forgiveness :  A very small post "Father's Day" episode fic. Sometimes humans need so little to make them truly happy.  Nine x Rose
Buzzing :  A simple medical procedure takes too long because Rose won't stop fidgeting. What is the matter?  Nine x Rose
Blue Seas and Revelations :  Rose can’t think clearly but it isn’t because of the heat.  Nine x Rose
A Rose By Any Other Name (WIP, multichapter) :  AU. After the accident that threatens Rose's mind, Rose is given a new personality and is sent to England in 1808. The Tardis sent Rose into the arms the Allens family who were charitable enough to take a poor injured girl under their protection. It is up to the Doctor now to befriend Rose and look out for her while her brain is recuperating from trauma after their last adventure together.  Nine x Rose
Lost and Found : Rose loses something important and it's up to the Doctor now to console her. Tentoo x Rose
I don’t know if anyone even needs it but here it is. Hopefully, it won’t be the final list :)
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I’ve been thinking about how disappointing it is that they don’t bring previous companions back to Doctor Who more frequently, like there are a few that would maybe take more in-story explanation (like Amy and Rory), but most of them would be so easy? And how fun would it be to see old companions meet different incarnations of the Doctor?
Rose is stuck in a parallel universe, sure, but they could land there? Or even go there on purpose? Martha is living her life on Earth with Mickey, the Doctor could literally visit them whenever. Donna would be harder, but the Doctor could visit in the interim between her first appearance and the time she leaves with him like a year later. Or she could find alternate-universe Donna (either Rose’s universe or another one). Amy and Rory spend some time away from the Doctor after Melody is born, when he leaves to find her. Clara is literally travelling time and space on her own TARDIS (with Ashildr/Me?). Bill is immortal and also travelling space and time with her immortal girlfriend, Heather. Some, like Martha, Clara and Bill would be easier to explain, but I’m sure any of them could be pulled off, I mean, these are all off the top of my head, there must be other possible explanations for why the Doctor runs into them.
So anyway, here’s my proposal: have Thirteen and the Fam land on Martha and Mickey’s house and the TARDIS refusing to leave, so the Doctor is forced to investigate what scheme is afoot, only to exit the TARDIS to find an exasperated Martha and an annoyed Mickey who need the TARDIS to move because they’re hosting a dinner party in like an hour and it has stubbornly parked itself in their living room, right between their table and the door to the kitchen, and Francine Jones is not going to be happy about this.
Also, I need Mickey to catch sight of Thirteen and mutter something disparaging about the Doctor and his taste for blondes only for Thirteen to reveal that she IS the Doctor, like imagine Mickey’s face at that revelation.
The Doctor is then grudgingly invited to dinner, alien-of-the-week strikes, Martha is a BAMF who saves the day while everyone looks on in awe (especially Mickey, who should at some point exclaim “that’s my wife!!”), we get to see her and Mickey work together as a team and also some on-screen development for their relationship (we were robbed), then the Joneses show up for dinner and Francine makes lots of snide comments about the Doctor because she deserves to hold some resentment over that whole Year. Graham probably acts as a mediator between them and nudges the Doctor to apologise. Maybe even have the Doctor finally show Martha the appreciation she deserved all along, though of course by this time Martha doesn’t need to hear it from them.
I will also accept: the TARDIS is out of control and lands Thirteen in an alternate universe, but the Doctor can’t immediately tell which one because the TARDIS powered down and isn’t responding. So she leaves to explore this universe, not that she gets far, as only a few minutes later, she is herded by Torchwood and taken to their headquarters, where she is greeted by their director, Rose Tyler, and her second-in-command, Donna Noble (who Rose tracked down in the parallel universe and offered a job to; even though she wasn’t the one who had travelled with the Doctor, she was just as great).
Thus we learn that they landed in the same universe Rose has been stuck in for the last fifteen years, and Thirteen gets to visit her and Tentoo, who is, of course, this Donna’s best friend and Rose’s husband (and Tentoo ages, so we can bring in DILF David Tennant to reprise this hilarious role without it looking odd, and please remember Tentoo is half Donna, so imagine how fun a character he’d be). We can maybe see Jackie, Peter and Tony (at this point a teen), and even throw in statue of Mickey honouring his efforts in protecting that world from the Cybermen.
Plot happens and the Doctor helps that universe’s Torchwood deal with whatever is threatening the Earth that week, they save the day, they hug before the Doctor walks back into the TARDIS, maybe she tells Rose and Donna that she’s happy to know they’re in good hands, Tentoo looks all proud until Donna says something like “yeah, if you mean we got each other, because that one‘s a disaster” pointing at Tentoo. Cue some bickering while Rose and Thirteen laugh. Everyone’s happy, the TARDIS leaves, the end.
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Tentoo x Rose, In the kitchen for no reason at all for the kissy thing.
thank you for your patience, dear! hope you enjoy this little dose of fluff.
edit: and thank you, thinky, for brainstorming with me!!!!
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Tonight is another slow, lazy trickle of hours that he doesn’t know how to fill.
Outside, early spring rain meets the windows in tidal-sounding splashes. They've had heavy showers for days and it's too damp to go out, they've both agreed. He stands for a moment and watches the trickling against the glass.
He's never much liked rainy days. 
And all those years of skipping through the boring bits has left him woefully unprepared when he asks Rose what she wants to do—since they can't go out—and she replies with “nothing.” 
What sort of a word is that? Nothing. An absence of action, of substance. And really, it isn’t even true: she isn’t doing nothing. She’s buzzing with life, constantly breathing and shifting and pulsing with it.
When he turns from the window, she’s puttering around the kitchen in her little bunny slippers, putting the kettle on. She's selecting mugs from the shelf—his favourite, her favourite, because that's what they are now. People who have favourite mugs, and who each know the other's.
His is a novelty mug—something that ought to have been a joke gift, but that he'd bought for himself at a little touristy shop on their way out of Oslo. Shaped like a cod, with a plaque reading, "You've cod a friend in me." Except, of course, it says that in Norwegian.
He thinks. He won't know for a while. Not until the TARDIS is old enough to translate it.
Rose's favourite mug is a simple, solid pink.
None of that is nothing. It's everything, really. It's overwhelming how everything it is, to have a flat and a mug and a Rose wandering about it, doing what she professes to be "nothing."
It overwhelms him on a daily basis, how much space there is to fill in his life. How much time.
He realizes that Rose is speaking—asking him something.
"Doctor? I know you're trying to cut down on sugar, but do you still want honey?" Her voice is softly questioning, sweetening around the words sugar and honey. 
They're still working out the pet name situation; he thinks he might like being called "honey," just from the way she says it. He might like being something sweet to her, like she is to him.
Do the English even use that endearment? He can't remember.
"Honey, please," he says, swallowing.
She opens the little jar, which is rounded and trigonal like a hive, and pours what looks like liquid gold generously into the mug. It's perverse, watching the greedy fish swallow all his honey. But when she lifts the jar and a bit extra overflows the lip, sticky and bubbled like amber, she swipes it away with her finger. 
For a moment, it glistens under the kitchen lights.
And then she licks her finger clean.
Nothing, she says. There's no such thing.
In several unconscious steps, the Doctor is across the kitchen and sweeping her into a kiss—fumbling the honey jar out of her hands—lifting her up onto the countertop. He hears the dull sound of her bunny slipper hitting the floor, having abandoned her foot, but it's unimportant. He elbows the intrusive mugs out of the way. The tea will turn tepid, and neither one of them will mind—he's already decided.
He kisses her and kisses her, while her hands brace against the countertop and her legs swing around him. While she settles and softens, one hand lifting to rake through his hair in the way he likes. He kisses her until both of them are breathing funny, because neither one has a respiratory bypass to engage, and until they both taste like the honey from her finger.
They part to breathe, so she says, "I'm not complaining, but—what was that about?"
He's grinning while he leaves two last smaller, sweeter kisses, on her top and bottom lip. "Nothing,” is the flippant answer. He picks up the honey jar, examining the shape and the label he doesn't recognize; the lid is still off, so he dips his finger in. For old time's sake. Rose wrinkles her nose affectionately. "Just wanted to, for no particular reason."
"Sure. All right," she chuckles, barely stopping him from pouring more of that earthy sweetness into the cod's open mouth. She's probably right. The water is too cool now for it to liquefy and melt properly. 
She closes the jar up tight, setting it aside before letting her arms come to rest on his shoulders. Her fingers brush the nape of his neck, where the little manly hairs all stand to attention. 
When she leans in close, still giving him that fond, knowing look that she seems to reserve for his oddest moments, she whispers, "I love you too, honey." 
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