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katelynsimpsince2016 · 5 months
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after sleeping on the latest anniversary special i think i’m at peace with the whole bi-generation thing because it does something i don’t think it would’ve been able to do if it was executed in any other way. it allows the show to move the fuck on.
nuwho began with this mysterious sense that something bad happened. that this man, this alien, is filled with guilt and pain from something terrible. that theme of a horrible anguish being thinly veiled under a witty, dorky shield has been consistent throughout every incarnation of the doctor since. it’s a brilliant piece of characterisation but the doctor always being weighed down by this insurmountable grief i think was always going to hold the show back eventually. tragedy is inherent to doctor who but when does it become hard to believe that the main character is somehow able to continue on after everything they’ve gone through. what effect would this have on the audience, especially long-term fans? letting go of past companions and doctors is something that doctor who fans are notoriously bad at and i just wonder if it would become too much for the show to handle at one point. but now it won’t anymore.
bi-generation allows the doctor to heal from everything they’ve gone through whilst still being able to barrel into the next adventure. there’s a million theories on where 14 will end up but i think what matters the most is that the doctor is finally happy. not in a temporary, tenuous state of thrill that will only last until the start of the next episode or when the next threat appears around the corner but truly happy. unlike in previous versions of this story where the doctor gets an impossible happy ending which we never get to see onscreen (e.g. tentoo settling down with rose) we are actually going to witness 15 be joyful and alive, no longer held down by what’s come before. a fresh start almost. not to say that the time war or the flux were so horrific that the doctor never could’ve gotten over them but i don’t think the doctor healing would’ve been believable without him literally splitting in two, allowing him time to breathe and slow down as 14 whilst untethering him from the past and allowing him to fully spread his wings as 15. it’s not a perfect conclusion to this era (and discussions on whether bi-generation undermined ncuti’s entrance and role as THE doctor are completely valid) but i’m ultimately glad it happened
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themuskrater · 5 months
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digitalwizard01 · 5 months
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No pun intended I swear but I'm of two minds about the whole Bi-generation thing. Like on one hand it's an interesting concept but on the other hand it was really hand-wavey and came out of nowhere, I hope they explore what it means more in the future. Can 14 still regenerate again, or is it like the metacrisis? Do each of them have half of their remaining regeneration cycle left?
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doctortoothless · 17 days
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If I had a nickel for every time David Tennant's doctor got cloned using regeneration energy and lived a domestic life with a former companion who returned briefly before it happened, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.
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why-and-or-bother · 5 months
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Please reblog for larger sample size (also this is a doctor who thing, not a generation of bisexuals)
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crowley to meet hastur and ligur in the good omens book has the same vibe as The 15th Doctor bigenerating in nothing but boxers.
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biquid · 4 months
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I think the bi-generation thing is really weird and silly but I can't stop thinking about 14 like doing something stupid and needing to bi-generate again only to have 13 pulled out of him so she can go find Yaz and they can live happily ever after 😭
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mylifeiscomics · 4 months
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Bi-Generation but in my perfect world ✨👌
Now that I know this a canon possibility in the DW lore I’m def percolating a bunch of fics/comics lol
I mean seriously though- how much more satisfying would this be knowing what we know? Because ten is a product of a healing nine, “born of war and born of love” right? So how perfect would that whole “you need to do some self care because you’re not doing great” idea go with Nine and Ten being the happy go lucky that gets to run off and do his thing?
Naturally, Rose would stay with Nine and they can have a good time doing their thing- and then Ten could go off and meet Donna or whatever and just have laughs all around the universe. It’s my perfect scenario. Win win. I get both my fave duos! Hurray! 🥰
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mainlysarcastic · 5 months
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I need a spinoff with Earth 14 and Donna’s family
I also need to know if there are just forever 2 doctor who keep regenerating separately? Like do they keep each others memories post bi generation? Or are they now 2 different doctors who have the same memory from the first billion years as one?
Either way I need more Rose Noble in my life so that spin off is a necessity
Also I’m already in love with Ncuti Gatwa as the doctor and I absolutely cannot wait for the Xmas episode
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jitterbugjive · 4 months
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Saw the epilogue post about Coach/Time Turner and how his regeneration into Pandemonium happened which is the complete ending to his tale. I just have an opinion/idea in regards to the chaos magic being unstable would a "Bi-Generation" also work to help keep Coach alive but with Pandemonium having all the chaos magic or would that mean Coach would not survive without it?
Bi-generation is a thing I'm conflicted about and I have a lot of questions about it. I prefer Coach just regenerating
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awholelotofgeek · 4 months
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With the bi-generation thing being a thing now I had a thought. The episode 'timeless child' we learned that the doctor was the original timelord, and has the big gap in their memory from before they left division. In 'the giggle' they said bi-generation was a myth. What if it was a myth because it had only happened once before to them, at some point in that gap?
Then I thought less seriously, what if the bi-generation copy was the Master before he went insane?
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katelynsimpsince2016 · 5 months
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another thing i love about the bi-generation thing is just how fucking buck wild sci-fi it is. how 14 and 15 both exist at once but are at two entirely different points in the doctor’s development. 14 is at the very beginning of the doctor’s journey towards self-love whilst 15 is at the other end of that journey, joyful and full of life. he’s so obviously not chained down by his past and so much more mature it’s almost startling. i know we were all caught off guard by 14’s emotional vulnerability but 15 is just name dropping companions left and right completely unprompted, something the doctor NEVER does. also the way that they interact with each is just a walking visualisation of self love. it’s hard to get my head around but just so beautiful. and when they look at one another they’re both staring into a mirror, a manifestation of the different diverging paths for the doctor (that might unite again if you believe 14 will eventually regenerate into 15). the way they’re both fundamentally the doctor but totally different all the same. how 14 closes out the doctor’s story and 15 starts it anew
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themuskrater · 5 months
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I know we're all still emotional from the finale, and I'm REALLY sorry to put this out into the universe...
BUT...
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He's gotta come from somewhere and this is basically what he's described to be...
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thatbiologist · 5 months
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Doctor Who & Bi-generation
Before people get angry at the bi-generation I want to add this. The bi-generation seen in the Giggle is not without precedent.
As a tri-generation was previous set in a book, The Gallifrey Chronicles. There is suppose to be three individual Ninth Doctors which exist simultaneously. The description of these three Doctors line up perfectly with Rowan Atkinson (Curse of Fatal Death), Richard E Grant (Scream of the Shalka), and Christopher Eccleston (Series 1).
Considering everything that the War Doctor when through. It seems quite reasonable to separate out this emotions into three different entities.
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cookiepoweredtardis2 · 5 months
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RTD further explained the bi-generation and duplication of the TARDIS in his commentary on The Giggle (only available on iPlayer because screw the international fans, right?).
So apparently the Fourteenth Doctor is still the past version of Fifteen: whenever he's done healing, he'll go back in time Watcher style and become the Fifteenth Doctor.
And the Fifteenth Doctor's TARDIS isn't a copy in any way: it's still the original version. That's going to be clarified in a future episode.
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sacred-algae · 4 months
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When the bi-generation happened, Fourteen has the undershirt, no socks and shoes, and no tie... Fifteen has the button-down, the socks and shoes, and the tie... but he also has the underwear.
Is Fourteen commando?
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