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thekingofwinterblog · 1 year

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Sasha's Parents

Allright, so thanks to the diary we finally got some definite info on Sasha's parents. Let's dissect it, and analyze how the divorce might have turned her into the person she is today.

According to Anne, Sasha's parents divorced when she was around four- or five-years-old. Her father remarried and doesn't seem to have had any other kids, while her mother has a long-term boyfriend who has kids of his own.

So what does this tell us? Well, the first thing we have to do is speculate which of Sasha's parents has custody of her, because knowing that, we can draw a lot of conclusions.

Personally, I am almost certain that it's her father, for reason i'll go into below.

Firstly, let's analyze the events of the divorce, before trying to figure out how the events of the series relates to the original plan the creators had to have an episode where Sasha reveals the full details of her backstory to Anne.

Mr and Mrs Waybright divorced when Sasha was 5 years old, but the implication we get from what little we know about the two people involved suggests that this wasn't simply a case of two people realizing things weren't working out... Because the implications seems to be that Mrs Waybright left her husband for another man... Who already had kids of his own, and who she very explicitly did not marry.

Why is this important? Because it explains everything we ever needed to know about Sasha's seething, burning desire to always be in control, and more importantly, on top.

Because in Sasha's 5 year old mind, seeing her mom leave her dad for another man, who already had a bunch of kids, while abandoning her, is tantamount to saying that she was worthless in her mother's eyes. She didn't measure up. Clearly her mom cared more about these kids than her... When in reality, it was the new boyfriend she actually cared about, not the kids. Neither the new ones... Or her own flesh and blood.

It also explains perfectly why Sasha's reaction to the Plantars "Stealing" Anne from her turned her downright murderous. In her mind it was basically history repeating itself again. Her losing someone she loved to another family she knew nothing about.

No wonder this girl hated the very concept of family.

Meanwhile, her dad married another woman, which which can safely assume was not a warm, loving relationship. More likely than not, whether this woman wanted to try and be a mother to Sasha, it's abundantly clear that that wasn't gonna happen. After the divorce, Sasha would have rejected any and all attempts at replacing her mother, and that stuck.

Her eternal quest to make Anne and Marcy happy is also explained by this. Sasha wants to make the people she loves happy. She wants them to like her, to appreciate her, to be rewarded with love and attention by people she loves and cares about.

But while this does explain a lot(Her control issues, her disdain for family, her non existent love for said family) there is still some things it does not explain, or at least there seems to be something more we aren't told.

So, let's put forth another question, to explain the things that a simple, if ugly divorce does not explain.

Was Sasha abused by her parents?

Throughout the series, Sasha continously says some extremely heavy lines, that though they fit perfectly with what is happening in the moment, all seem to be as a response to something else that happened previously in Sasha's life, that we just don't have the context for.

When Sasha hits her absolute lowest point, after having seemingly destroyed the only thing she truly cared about for Good and all, Sasha very deliberately refers to herself as belonging in the Trash, and that it's all someone like her deserves, in a tone that suggests she is accepting something she felt deep in her heart was innevitable.

That could be her being overly dramatic... But it could be something else.

Like she had been told that this was all she amounted to, a worthless brat who no one would love, who belonged in the trash.

Not while Anne and Marcy are getting by withouth me.

This line is pretty clear in it's meaning, but again, the way it's said and worded suggests it's referencing something someone else said at some point.

Hey anne... Maybe you're better off without me.

Sasha's famous line when she decides to kill herself is an important one, and one where she proves that she is willing to lay down her life for anne if it comes to that.

But knowing the circumstances with her parents divorce, it's hard not to read more into it. That Sasha had a genuine fear that her mother didn't just leave her, but that she was better off withouth her.

That could be projecting... but it doesn't have to be. Sasha could have heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

End of discussion

This one is absolutely referencing a line. This is a line Sasha uses to shut down any arguments Anne has when Sasha wants the discussion to end.

But that isn't something kids tend to learn on their own. They learn that by example. By mimicking others.

So before going into speculation of how Sasha may or may not have been abused, lets finish by pointing out the biggest argument for it.

The incredibly unsettling, and unnatural way Sasha does not care about her Parents in any way.

Sasha makes it abundantly clear throughout the entire series that she does not care about her parents. At all. Her relationship with them isn't a complicated one. It's nonexistent. As far as she cares, it does not exist.

That is incredibly unnatural behavior from a child. Even the most abused, or neglected of children will usually have some form of natural attachment to their parents, or parental figures. It's simply the way human beings are made.

It takes A LOT to break that bond completely, even for an adult.

But Sasha isn't an adult. She is a child. And yet her bond to her parents is as far as she is concerned for most of the series, broken beyond any repair.

And she doesn't care to try and fix it. That all on it's own speaks volumes of just how BAD her relationship with her folks are.

So, let's get to speculating on what exactly the kind of abuse Sasha might have gone through with her parents, because there is probably two very distinct kinds from each of her parents.

Of the two, I would guess that if she was abused, the most visceral part came from her mom.

Most of Sasha's biggest issues are clearly a result of her mother leaving her, and so this would make sense.

So, what sort of abuse might Sasha have suffered at the hands of her mother that broke her down so badly, given the woman left her behind, and so probably didn't interact with her much beyond this?

If i had to guess, all of it probably stems for what happened during the divorce, where her mom essentially put all her cards on the table, and let her real feelings be put on full display.

And there are several reasons her mom might have had to lash out at her own child. It could be as simple as the fact she used Sasha to hurt her now ex-husband. Rubbing in that he was stuck with her now.

It could be that sasha was an unplanned child that she didn't want, and had secretly resented for all five years of her life.

She may have been pressured into having her by her Mr Waybright, and now that she no longer had to even try to make him happy, she made it abundantly clear how much she never wanted the damned child he put in her.

Or she could flat out not have liked Sasha, based solely on her personality.

Whatever the reasons, it's clear that the events of the divorce shattered Sasha to her core, and would be essential into forming her into the person she was at the start of the series.

Having one of the people that Sasha(Who is a person who forms STRONG attachments) loves more than any other, turn on her completely, and reveal she always hated her would probably have done the trick.

Now, let's move on to Mr Waybright.

I am very certain that Sasha probably learned the "End. Of. Discussion." From him, as their relationship seems to have been a different kind of breakdown.

Namely that he seems to have given up on Sasha, giving her a level of personal control over her life that is downright irresponsible, letting her throw parties on the regular, seemingly giving her free access to cash as she needs it, and having failed to instill any discipline into his kid.

These are all classic symptoms of a relationship where the parent has given up, and simply gives the kid what they want so they don't have to deal with them.

But was this always the case?

The simple fact is, that with what we know of Mrs Waybright, the extreme destruction of her relationship with Sasha makes sense. There are details one has to speculate on, but there is a clear line to follow from point A to B.

Not so with Mr Waybright.

We know where they ended up, the turning point, but not the steps between.

The only thing we have to go on, Is that amongst her many, many unusual traits for someone so young, Sasha has a much older person's view on discipline. Namely she does not respond to it, because she does not respect the person delivering it, be they teachers or Grime.

It does not take a genius to figure out that this probably stems from her relationship with her father.

The simplest, and most likely explanation is that Mr Waybright attempts at parenting probably involved a lot of discipline, and attempts to instill Sasha with a sense dread at a phrace with the meaning of "This conversation is over".

In this he obviously failed, Because for whatever reason(probably something that happened during the divorce) Sasha does not respect him... But Sasha in turn seems to have learned this very kind of tactic herself from him.

Mr Waybright thusly seems to have had more of a sense of familial obligation to Sasha... At least trying to instill her with something resembling discipline... Until finally just giving up on her all together and just letting her do as she pleased.

All in all whether there was actual abuse involved, or just a child's entire world crumbling due to a very ugly divorce, I really, really wish we'd gotten Sasha's backstory episode.

#amphibia #sasha waybright #anne boonchuy #meta #sasha's parents #mrs waybright #mr waybright #speculation #parental abuse #cycle of abuse

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kingoftheu · 1 year

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In an Alternate Universe where Sasha is captured instead of Marcy the Core makes its pitch. All of Sasha's dreams come true...

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scrabbleknight · 2 years

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So, who do you speculate the VAs for Sasha's parents, James and Jessie to be? Personally, I'd imagine Troy Baker as James (mostly cause it'd be funny having Sasha's biological dad share the same VA as her canon toad dad Grime) and Kari Wahlgren as Jessie (mostly cause with people comparing Sasha to Pacifica, I'd have her share the same VA as Pacifica's mother).

Obviously the voice actors would be the VAs of Team Rocket™ harharhar

But really though, I have no idea. I don't know many VAs.

#satf #sasha and the frogs #voice actor #ask answered #amphibia au #amphibia #sasha's parents

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megadan94 · 2 years

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Do you suppose they’ll finally introduce Marcy and Sasha’s parents in the next episode or in the epilogue?

I don't think they'll have time to next episode, they'll be too busy saving the world. I'd like to see them in the epilogue though.

#my post #my answers #amphibia #all in #the hardest thing #sasha waybright #sasha's parents #amphibia predictions

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cutetanuki-chan · 1 year

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Sasharcy Vampire Buddies-Roommates

Sasha always was a vampire, while Marcy got turned into one, not by Sasha tho Marcy's also a picky eater, so more often Marcy just drinks Sasha's blood

also Marcy mixing up bag of blood with some energy drink or mountain dew cause why not

#at some point Sasha's parents cut her funding and now they need to get a smaller flat and a job #amphibia #sasha waybright #Marcy wu #sasharcy #amphibia au #art

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fruity-phrog · 2 years

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Nobody:

Anne: So this is my partner Marcy, and their girlfriend Sasha, who is my girlfriend. These are Marcy’s parents, and we don’t talk about Sasha’s parents. This is my mom Oum and my dad Bee. And this is my grandfather HopPop, who is in no relation to my parents. This is HopPop’s grandkids Polly and Sprig, who are my siblings. This is Sasha’s weird uncle/brother/dad Grime and Marcy’s moms Olivia and Yunan. This is my cat Domino, and my giant moth Domino Two, my giant family snail/car Bessie and her three snird babies..

Oh, and this is my colleague, God.

#still not as big as Luz's family #MArcy and Sasha's biological parents don't even make an appearance #amphibia #sashannarcy #sashanne #sasharcy #Marcanne #yulivia #anne boonchuy

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matchamabs · 10 months

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idkkk some sasha milla stuff. man they gave us every pair BUT these two, the 3rd game better be set at their goddamn wedding

#i want them 2 be parents theyd be so good #psychonauts #psychonauts 2 #sasha nein #milla vodello

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unholybinchicken · 12 days

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ok now i'm intrigued. i want to know about sasha so's family and home life.

#sasha so #heartbreak high #what are her parents like?#does she have siblings?#what's going on in there?#aside from her wanting to romp bomp a stomp that dinussy

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thekingofwinterblog · 2 years

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So, let's talk about Sasha's reluctance to forgive Marcy in "The beginning of the end".

A lot of people are focusing on Sasha's hypocrisy, or whether she was justified, but that's not really what i want to focus on.

Instead, i want to focus on Sasha's talk about her possibly giving up on her relationship with Marcy, and Anne's reaction to it.

The thing is, this isn't just her speaking hyperbole, because when Sasha is asking Anne whether to forgive Marcy or not, it is a genuine question, that can tip both ways depending on her answer.

After all. She has given up on relationships before. Sasha has seen relationships she valued above almost anything else turn to dust before her eyes, and has had to move on from them.

I've talked a lot about just how destroyed Sasha's relationship with her parents are, and how she has no attachments to them anymore, and how this breakdown completely defined the person she would become.

What i have not focused on before, is how much this must have hurt in the moment.

Because Sasha didn't just have a big feud with her parents. She moved on from them. She GAVE UP on their relationship.

Sasha gave up on her relationship with her parents, an incredibly hard, and often traumatizing thing to do, even for adults. And she was a child when she did it. Probably way younger than she is now, given in every flashback we have of her after her introduction to the girls, she had finalized into the girl she was at the start of the series.

It was probably the most traumatic moment of her entire life, when she come to, and accepted the truth(whether correct or not) that her parents did not love her, would never love her again, and she just had to accept that fact.

And again, she was a kid when this happened.

And not only was it traumatic, but it was a wound that never fully healed. Because her parents destroyed a lot more than just Sasha's love for them.

They destroyed her ability to love herself unconditionally, and left her with a horrible fear that at any time, anything could go wrong unless she's not in control, leaving her with massive trust issues.

And Sasha NEVER forgave them for this. She is perfectly content to leave her parents to think she's dead for all time, which tells more of how little she values them than i ever could.

Which which brings us to what Sasha is asking Anne. Because unlike Anne, Sasha never learned to forgive anyone. Not for the big stuff anyway.

It is a completely new feeling for Sasha, to have to take a leap of faith, not only to forgive being hurt so badly, but to give it another go. To be willing to slip off her armor, and trust that Marcy will never thrust another knife in her back again.

To surrender her control over the relationahip fully, even after Marcy hurt her so badly. It's a far more drastic step above letting her friends do as they wish, even when she disagree.

It is terrifying.

It is so terrifying, that a large part of Sasha just wants to do what she did with her parents. Accept that the relationship is beyond saving, and move on.

Which brings us to Anne's response. Anne does not guilt trip her, or lie to her. She doesn't point out her hypocrisy, or demean her feelings.

Instead she tells Sasha that forgiveness isn't easy. It's hard. And it can take time. But it's worth it. Just like Sasha was for Anne.

Anne knows. She understands what Sasha is feeling. She knows not only what it is like to be betrayed, backstabbed, and hurt so badly that just like Sasha did with her own parents, she made the choice to break off her relationship with Sasha with no plans to ever reconcile.

And yet, despite that, despite knowing the same pain Sasha felt, Anne later managed to forgive Sasha anyway. To love her again. Sasha wasn't trash that belonged in the garbage after all. She was worthy of being loved in spite of her flaws.

Just like Marcy.

I don't think Sasha will ever be able to fix her relationship with her parents, nor do i think that is necessarily the best way forward for her, but Sasha did make a big step forward here. She learned to forgive others. To open herself up again to others, and accept the loss of control that requires.

To not let fear and lingering bitterness and rage poison her heart and dominate her in the now.

And it is now once she's able to do that, that she can truly begin to heal, and embrace her future.

#amphibia #sasha waybright #anne boonchuy #sashanne #marcy wu #sasha's parents #meta #analysis #character analysis #forgiveness

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detentiontrack · 1 year

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What went wrong in my brain where when I hear the word "divorce" I immediately think about a 13 year old homophobic repressed bisexual fake blonde Catholic cheerleader with mental issues who underwent her first divorce via public execution turned dramatic sword fight and near death experience

#i dont associate sasha with divorce because of her parents #i associate sasha with divorce because sashanne is the most divorced couple i've ever seen #amphibia #sasha waybright #anne boonchuy #sashanne

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everestentertainments · 2 years

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arrgghghg....Sasha and Grime both starting the series as bullies who were used to getting their way and pushing people around and initially only bringing out the worst in each other and seeing each other as a means to an end...but then growing to genuinely care for each other and going through so much together and receiving several wake up calls that they should improve their behavior...culminating in a scene where Sasha throws herself at Darcy because she wants to do the right thing and Grime throws himself in front of Darcy because he wants to protect Sasha....yeah I’m normal about this

#amphibia #amphibia spoilers #all in #captain grime #sasha waybright #darcy #grime amphibia #amphibia season three #amphibia season 3 #just kidding i'm not!!!!!#so much happened in this episode but they're my favorites so!!!!!!#i'm yelling about this!!!!!#Grime is Sasha’s captain/dad/uncle/irresponsible parental figure/bestie #and Sasha is Grime’s lieutenant/daughter/niece/partner in crime/bestie #The mountain speaks

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