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Destiel Chronicles

Vol. LXXIII

It was a love story from the very beginning.

You Are (Part II)

(11x21/11x22a)

Hello dear friends! We are reaching the end of the season 11!

Remember this is a series of metas focused on Destiel, and maybe some topics like Chuck, or Sam's arch could be taken superficially.

I will talk here about episode 11x21 and first part of 11x22, so I hope you can enjoy the last ones from this season.

Let's start!

Longing for you

What is important about Destiel in episode 11x21 'All in family' ? Amara uses Dean's longing for Castiel as a phone line to reach him through the angel.

And this is one of the most Destiel iconic scenes, showing us how canon is that Dean and Cas share a profound bond, that bond turns out so real, that even Amara (and Jack in season 13) are able to find Dean (and Cas).

I'm not giving new facts here, but remember when Claire Novak was walking down the road and Castiel appears in his car, and he talks about how an angel can sense longing? That's the connection we need to think over here.

Dean was in the middle of the night, again because he couldn't sleep, worried about Cas and the horrible torture he was receiving from Amara, and all those desperate thoughts, longing strongly for him, when Amara showed in front of him with Casifer in bad shape to threatening him.

Amara knows now Dean's Tru feeling for Castiel, and when Lucifer loses conscience she senses that longing too. She frowns and with a hand on Castiel's chest (and this is very symbolic, the chest is where the heart is placed) she reaches Dean.

This is one of my favorite references in the show about the relationship between Dean and Cas. Their profound bond is real, and I'm certainly sure we will see some of it again as endgame for Destiel. (We already saw it in episode 15x09, and I wrote about it in this meta here.)

So, we learned in the last meta that Amara can't contact Dean anymore, so she will use that feeling, that strong connection between the angel and Dean she has just discovered, to reach him.

Gif credit @mrsfitzgerald

When Dean sees Cas in that shape (okay, maybe Casifer but it was Cas' vessel) he became more desperate.

Even with Chuck there and all the questions they want to make him, Dean focuses on Cas. He cut his brother in the middle of a speech.

Dean: Amara is – she's in my head. Hey, I didn't ask for it, okay? She just showed up. But she's showing me visions of – of Lucifer. By Lucifer, I mean Cas, and he looks like crap – like she's really doing a number on him.

Dean ignores Amara used the connection he has with Castiel to find him, but we, as audience, know because the writers wanted us to know about the way Amara reached Dean.

Here again, is not Lucifer, but Cas the one that cares to Dean, because for him, CAS IS THE ONE BEING BEATED UP BY AMARA.

There's another Canon scene, in which Amara appears again in front of Dean, and when you look for the connection with Cas, you find Sam and Donnie talking about angels. Even Sam says the word: ANGELS.

This is perfectly settled by writers too, as we know, because in season 13, we will see how Dean gets very sad when he speaks about angels to the sheriff in episode 13x01, so when we say Angels, we say CAS.

Dean's thoughts were on Castiel

Another Canon fact, but building perfectly by Berens, playing with the switch between scenes that characterizes him, is the rescue of Castiel and Amara and Dean meeting.

These two scenes are switching with a purpose: TO SHOW US THAT DEAN WINCHESTER ISN'T BONDED TO AMARA IN THE WAY HE WAS AND MORE IMPORTANT, WHERE DEAN'S THOUGHTS WERE: ON CAS.

Amara: Thank you for reaching out to me, Dean.

Dean: You said you wanted to meet.

Dean doesn't want to be nice with her, 'I CAME BECAUSE YOU WANTED ME TO COME (Because you threatened me, and because you have my angel) is not something Dean wanted but is something Dean is using to keep her away while Casifer is rescued.

Amara: I missed you. And the... sensations you arouse. I know you feel the same way. So...what do we do?

Dean: There can be no us. We should just walk away.

Amara: Then why don't you?

This is a little ironic, because Dean is rejecting God's sister ONCE AND FOR ALL, and indirectly is because HE LOVES SOMEONE ELSE and because HIS THOUGHTS ARE ON CAS NOW, is as if he was saying WE CAN'T GO OUT, I'M IN LOVE WITH CASTIEL.

And it keeps being more interesting, because Dean asks for a separation, 'We should walk away' and Amara is like: OKAY YOU DON'T WANT TO BE WITH ME THEN WHY YOU CAME? And we laugh because HE WENT TO YOU BECAUSE WE NEED CAS BACK.

Berens want us to make the connection with the switch of scenes.

Amara: Dean, give up your... smallness, your humanity and become boundless within me.

With my head again on my spec, I can't stop thinking how this is so related to it, because DEAN REJECTS THIS OFFER GIVEN BY AMARA, A FORCED BOND, will he be able to decide it for himself? And I meant, as the Destiel endgame I presented to you months ago, will Dean be able to give up his humanity for love? And be one with Castiel? Willingly?

Dean: You're right. I am drawn to you. And it bothers the hell out of me, 'cause I can't control it.

Perfectly said by Dean himself: IT BOTHERS THE HELL OT OF HIM, the feeling that Amara gives him, is not something he wants.

Amara: Then why fight it? What you're feeling is that I am the end of your struggle. Something stops you. Keeps you from having it all.

There's a huge misscomunication here, Dean is saying I DON'T LIKE YOU, and she is not getting the message.

We also know what is the only thing that stopped Dean to give up before Amara: Cas, and because the scenes between this one and Cas' rescue keep happening, the audience also knows it.

Amara: Where are your thoughts? Something's different.

Thanks to Master Berens we can answer this for Dean: CASTIEL.

Something is different since Dean found out Lucifer had Cas, and then that Amara had Lucifer who had Cas. So... Yes.

From daddy issues to Dean's worries about Cas

Quickly, I want to point a couple of facts from episode 11x22.

About Destiel, we had Dean worried about what Cas thought about the plan they were constructing between demons, witches and angels. He was the only one here asking for Castiel's opinion, and the concern he shows made Lucifer felt so done, and mocking him again. 'Yes, your husband is agreed', the line wasn't this one but it sounded like that, right?

Then, there was two scenes, and I want you to know I'm not talking about new things again, as I repeated a thousand of times, these scenes had been analyzed plenty in the fandom, but I have to mention them anyway.

When Amara enters on the place where everyone were waiting to attack her, she didn't look well, and the first thing Dean's body does is trying to reach her. Sam stopped him. It was like a reflection, vestiges of the forced bond

But immediately after that, we had our Destiel scene. When Amara hurts Casifer, Dean yells Cas' name and went to attack her.

Where's the power Amara has on Dean on that? Inexistent. Is gone when Cas is the one in danger.

Amara quotes: WELCOME TO THE END, as a foreshadow of Chuck at the end of season 14.

To Conclude:

Episode 11x21 are full of Profound Bond references and Destiel.

Is blatant here that Amara lost badly against those blue eyes.

Dean's thoughts had been always on Castiel.

Hope you like this meta, see you in the next one! The last from season 11!

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If you want to read the previous metas From this season, here you have the links:

Vol. LXII, LXIII, LXIV, LXV, LXVI, LXVII, LXVIII, LXIX, LXX, LXXI, LXXII.

Buenos Aires August 4th 2020 7:16 PM

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postmodernmulticoloredcloak · 5 years

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Where it’s darkest

As largely expected and basically announced, we’ve entered the “darkest” hour before the dawn, which from a viewing experience means that it’s Super Suffering Time. Which we love, as Supernatural fans. Watch Supernatural they said, it’s gonna be fun they said. You’re gonna suffer, but you’re gonna be happy about it...

Anyway. I guess it says a lot about my investment in Nick’s character that when Dabb tweeted "where it’s darkest...” I’d completely forgotten that it was literally a quote by Nick from the scene where he picked Lucifer over his wife... and many of you did too, don’t lie, because everyone rightfully went back to 11x20/11x21 (which was all over the current narrative, obviously, down to the copy of the amulet...) but I haven’t seen anyone being like, ah yes that’s what Nick said :p

I have been saying that Dabb is writing his turn at the themes that the previous showrunners explored through the Leviathan and Amara, and now not only we have the Shadow narrative and Cas’ deal, but even Lucifer in his Empty form is visually reminiscent of the Leviathan (and the red eyes over black remind me of the monsters in Purgatory). (Remember, the Gamble era tackled the same themes of depression and identity issues as the following ones, but slightly more confusedly or maybe without the “what’s subtlety” of her successors... it’s not a coincidence we’re still answering the question the Gamble era asked in s6 - what’s a soul - and playing with metaphors around the color black, shapelessness and emptiness.)

So, this is another turn of the spiral that corresponds to the Leviathan arc: which means stripping the characters of everything, stripping the characters of what makes them the most genuine, healthy and strong versions of themselves, to rebuild them again. While I don’t think we’re going to see Dean, Sam and Cas truly stripped of everything (but they’re going to lose a lot - they already have started losing things - and their bonds are going to be tested...), because that’s not the turn of the spiral we’re at at this point, but the “extreme” version of that narrative is obviously on Jack, their ultimate mirror, who has been struggling with what makes him... him, and has maybe lost that very thing.

And of course this episode had heavy callbacks to the Amara storyline, and in fact we’ve been multiple callbacks to the last few episodes of season 11. The very character Donatello has been recently reminding us of the reason of his soullessness (he was “activated” in 11x21 and Amara consumed his soul in 11x22). God is back at full-force into the narrative, although not in person yet... and the last moment of the episode is reminiscent of the last moment of season 11 (and there’s also a cliffhanger similar to Sam being shot, if you want). In fact, it’s the antithesis of it: at the end of Alpha And Omega (beginning and end... ouroboros... and the spiral goes and goes) Dean asks “Mom?” as she is brought back to life. Now Jack asks “Mary?” as...

We’re in the turn of the spiral that corresponds to the last portion of season 11. Not surprisingly, because season 11 could have been the end, was the end of the narrative crafted by Carver and that simply was added new elements to make the spiral go again instead of letting it arrive at a conclusion.

But it’s also an antithesis of the Amara narrative, because that was about the anger of the suppressed feminine principle, and it concluded with the revival of the original woman who was sacrificed to make the story (the show and the story the characters have been living) happen. Now we have the most annoying character in the history of ever, Nick, who is (irritatingly but aptly) such a strong example of the worst masculinity, who chose Lucifer over a dead wife so reminiscent of Mary when she died. We have Lucifer, who represents exactly the same brand of toxic masculinity and toxic fatherhood, in the imagery of the shapeless black, instead of Amara.

We will see how Chuck fits in this narrative. But remember - I mean, me versus your mom? That’s... that’s not even a choice. The masculine, paternal principle gets put in the past. The father goes and the mother stays. I don’t know what Mary’s fate will be specifically, but what she represents is going to stay. What John represents - from paternal neglect to a normative model of family - goes.

#my spn thoughts #spn spoilers #spn 14x17 #spn meta #spn spec #spn

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deanwinchesters · 5 years

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/post/177624820326/we-dont-deserve-him hi do you mind sharing where these quotes are from and which eps is he referring to? (:

these quotes are from various cons that were posted on twitter, i don’t have links to them bc i didn’t save them but the ones that reference certain episodes (1, 2, 4) are from 13x10, 11x21 and 11x10

#asks

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ms-michellewinchester · 7 years

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Supernatural survey

I wasn’t tagged but this looks amazing, so I’m doing it anyway. However, I found it at @holy-fucking-damn-shit blog.

1. What season did you start watching Supernatural? Season 1. I started from the beginning if that’s what you’re asking :). But if the question is meant in the sense what year I started watching, then the show was at its ninth season. It was about two or three weeks before the finale. I remember everyone was talking about how the season might end, because Jensen teased something about it being an eye-opener :D.

2. Who was the first character you fell in love with? Dean, always. My initial love for him, was really all about how snarky and fun he was. But as the character developed I really fell in love with how layered he was. How he has this mask that is made so obvious and talked about clearly on the show, but whatever’s underneath it you get between the lines, through showing. How on the surface you get “Sam is the smart one” but you are shown hints that Dean is a genius. You will get “Sam is more open to his emotions”, but you are shown that it’s Dean who makes emotionally based decisions, while Sam goes for (often) cold logic. And sadly, you will also get “Dean’s decisions are dumb and should be disregarded because they are emotionally based” but a lot of the timeit turns out that Dean was right all along (example: when Cas was possesed by Lucifer, Dean’s focus was on that, while Sam insisted, Amara was a bigger problem. Turned out Lucifer was the bigger problem in the end).

3. Who was a character that you hated at first but grew to love?: Crowley. Even though it was really up and down with him. It kind of depended on whether or not he was on the Winchester’s side - or worked with them, because, really, Crowley was always only on his own side. I don’t think I ever truly loved him, but I enjoyed his character, definitely.

4. Which character would you most want to be in a long-term relationship with? Um. This one is tough, because realisticaly, I don’t really see myself dating any of the characters. I would love to say Dean, but I would probably just keep on shipping him with Cas even in real time, so I wouldn’t date him. If I look at people I date in real life, Charlie would be the closest one. Dean is very close as well, but like I said, I would just play matchmaker for him :D.

5. If you could go on a date with just one character, which one would you choose?: Despite what I just said, I would choose Dean for that date, because I would love to talk to him and chances are that date would end with an awesome night :D. I’m not really one for one-night stands normally, but in this case I wouldn’t be able to resist.

6. What would you do on that date? I would love to chill out at the bunker. Dean would make dinner and we’d watch some TV and talk. And then end up in his room. Obviously this points towards us being friends for a while before deciding to just make a one time thing out of that, to relieve some stress :). Since I’m demi, I would definitely have to be close friends with him first for that scenario to work.

7. Which character would you most want to be like?: If we’re only talking about their character and not their experience (because I wouldn’t want to go through that), I would probably go for Dean. His character resonates with me and he makes me want to be a better person. And to have his confidence and empathy whe it comes to dealing with other people, that would be a gift.

8. Which character would you most want to see brought back from the dead?: Most of all Charlie, I think. Just because that was seriously messed up. Gabriel is another big name that comes to mind. Bobby is kind of a given. But I would also love to see Victor Henriksen again! And maybe Henry, even though I felt like his story was wrapped up nicely, it was just so short.

9. Which character would you most like to punch?: Lucifer. Always. He’s pure chaotic evil.

10. Who is your absolute favorite character?: Dean always had the top spot. Cas is a close second, but no one can take Dean’s spot in my heart.

11. Which “Big Bad” do you think was the worst?: The worst in the sense of writing, worst in the sense of how much I hated them or worst in how scary they were? In the sense of writing and storytelling, The Leviathan were absolute bullshit, excuse my French. Just no. In the sense of my hate for them, Lucifer wins. He’s a great villain in that sense. But damn, I hate him so much. And Cas was kind of seriously scary as the Big Bad (if you can count that, because technically, it was supposed to be Raphael and then the Leviathan, but it was really Cas), because that one was paved with good intentions. Lucifer is the villain that is just too evil for me to connect with and to really get him. He’s like Voldemort. Cas was probably scarier for that short period of time, because I understood his motivations even if I didn’t agree with his choices. He was like Zobrist in Brown’s Inferno (which was honestly the only good thing about that book).

12. Which character are you most like?: Wow, that one’s tough. The characters on the show have such different experiences from me that I have hard time separating that from who they are. I suppose I am a lot like Dean in some cases. I like to put up a front and hide my feelings from people around me, because I am very private with them and I don’t want to bother anyone with them. I’m a nerd who finds joy in being a fan of something, though I don’t hide that like Dean, so in that sense I’m more like Charlie. Like Dean, I rely on my feelings and my gut when it comes to decisions and when I screw something up I can drive myself crazy with guilt. Like Cas, I’m curious about things and I sometimes struggle to show how much I care. There’s so many different things, but I would say, even though we are very different in some aspect, I might be the closest to Dean.

13. What death hit you the hardest? Maybe when Sam died for the first time, just because it was really the first big one and I didn’t really know how the show worked. And also because his death was followed with so many awful things. Dean’s first death (like complete death in No Rest for the Wicked) was a tough one too. Charlie too, but I’m still kind of in denial about that one. And I suppose season 12 finale, even though I knew even in that second that this is not the end. I’m still worried about how that character will come back though. Will they be the same? 14. What season finale hit you the hardest?: Alpha and Omega. It was such a different finale from all the other ones that it stands above all the other ones. Even if it wasn’t devastating like other finales, or maybe because of that, it’s message got under my skin.

15. What are your ten all-time favorite episodes?: Lazarus Rising (Castiel and new Ruby), Reichenbach (Deanmon. Just. This. Fucking. Episode.), Don’t Call me Shurley (I can’t believe they went there), Alpha and Omega (best finale of ever), Angel Heart (Dean and Claire coming to terms, Cas and Claire coming to terms, Amelia and Jimmy getting a closure), The Monster at the End of This Book (Chuck!!!), Changing Channels (Gabriel and all the shade thrown here), Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox (Dean and Sam being legends, the twins), Fanfiction (I can’t even), Tall Tales (Gabriel! Also, some of the most absurd quotes ever), Everybody Hates Hitler (the Bunker!!!). That’s eleven. Because it’s impossible to choose just ten. It’s impossible to choose eleven too, but I managed to stop myself there :D.

16. What’s been your favorite season?: I can’t. Dammit. No. Right now it would probably be season 11 if they cut some of the fucking useless stuff in 11x21 and 11x22. There were some very importants scenes there, but a lot of this was just there to fill the space between 11x20 and 11x23. Though, considering 11x20 and 11x23 were some of the best episodes of the show in my eyes, it might be one of the reasons why the two episodes between just seemed so weak in comparison.

17. Who is your favorite angel? Is that even a question. I love Cas!

18. Who is your favorite demon? The two demons that were supposed to follow Crowley at the beginning of season 12 were pretty hillarious :D. But seriously, I would probably say Crowley. Even if not always. Meg had her moments as well.

19. Who’s your favorite evil character? Again, I might say Crowley and Meg, I guess. I would say Amara, but she was more neutral than evil. Rowena had a lot of great moments too. Oh, and Don and Maggie Stark were awesome and I want them to come back!

20. Do you have any Supernatural ships?: I’m Destiel trash if there ever was one. I have a lot of smaller ships that don’t really have that much impact on me, but I like the idea of them: Sam and Eileen, Don and Maggie, Henry and Josie (though I know it wasn’t like that). I read some Sabriel occasionally and I have some kind of weird thing for Dean/Cas/Meg which I honestly don’t understand.

21. Who’s your favorite supporting actor?: I would have to write a really long list for this one. Just on top of my head: Rob, Richard, Matt, Kim, Kathryn Newton, Emily Swallow, Gil McKinney, Osric Chau. Kid, honestly, I could go on and on... :D

22. What’s your favorite quote from the show?: Dean’s speech to Chuck comes to mind: “People...people pray to you, people build churches for you and fight wars in your name... And you did nothing.”

And Cas’ heartbreaking speech: “Knowing you has been the best part of my life. The things we’ve shared togehter..they have changed me. You’re my family. I love you. I love all of you.”

And Dean and Claire in Angel Heart. I just loved the scenes in the motel room and when they were playing mini golf. It’s not really a quote, just the conversations between them are gold.

23. If you could cast one famous actor in an episode of SPN, who would you choose? Maybe Emilia Clarke? I don’t really know. But I feel like she could be a badass hunter or just someone who had their life disrupter by supernatural activity, but she has like this no nonesense attitude about it. Or she could be another British woman of letters.

24. If you could write your own episode, what kind of creatures would you like to see included?: I don’t know about creatures, but I would love to see Virgin Mary as a character and bring Gabriel back just to see those two interacting :D. Oh, also, this is not my idea, but @northern-sparrow has these awesome creatures called elementals in her fics Forgotten and Flight and that’s such an amazing idea I want to see that on Spn.

25. Who’s your favorite girl that Dean’s hooked up with?: I guess it would be Lisa. Even if I couldn’t really see them together long-term, she really cared about him and tried to be what he needed.

26. Who’s your favorite girl that Sam’s hooked up with?: Ha! I will say Genevieve Padalecki. Because they did hook up in French mistake, didn’t they! :D Part of me wanted to say Ruby, because even if she was evil and seduced him into screwing everything up, she was honestly a really good character.

27. What are some of your favorite convention moments?: Pretty much any Cockles panel ever :D. Jensen reading Misha’s resume, the thing with the white bunny and so on. And as far as my own experiences go, meeting Jensen was pretty great and also having an actual conversation with Misha about books.

28. If you were going to guest star (or be a recurring guest star) on SPN, how would you want your character to be described?: Maybe a university professor who specializes in mythilogy and becomes kind of a new Bobby? Or an angel who starts helping the Winchesters.

29. What do you hope to see in the next season?: Cas coming back as HIMSELF and not some alternate reality Cas. Sam listening to Dean for once. Rowena coming back. No more deaths for shock value. Some interesting monsters of the week.

30. - 40. If you had to choose…

Bobby or John?: Bobby.

Bela or Ruby? Ruby.

Jess or Madison?: Probably Jess, but I don’t really know with this one.

Jo or Lisa?: That’s tough. Maybe Jo, but it’s close.

Charlie or Kevin? Almost impossible, but at gun point I’d choose Charlie.

Balthazar or Ash?: Balthazar. But mostly because Ash has been gone for so long I can’t really imagine him coming back.

Cas or Crowley? Cas. Crowley was great and I’ll miss him, but Mark was quite clear about not coming back and I respect it. And Crowley would just never win over Cas for me.

Ben or Claire? Claire. Ben was great, but I feel like we know Claire so much better. And I want to know more.

Jody or Donna? Probably Jody, but could I get them both as a couple?

Sam or Dean?: Dean all the way. I still love Sam (even though it might not be very clear from this post), but Dean just has my heart. I will tag!: Anyone who wants to do this!

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