Lucifer, ranting: Oh and he's so fucking infuriating! Thinks he can just waltz into that hotel, and into my daughter's life! Daring to argue with me, ME! The King of Hell! With his stupid coat and the ugliest fucking haircut I've ever seen, strolling around as if he owned the place!

Asmodeus, Sin of Lust, able to tell Exactly what is going on, pouring him a second margarita: Mhmm, tell me more, girl.

HI ashen quad guy again, sorry !! 😭 i got a bit busy. unskippable cutscene unlocked.

so i have noticed that , as a fandom , theres seems to be a kind of universal perception (and subsequent disregard for) of the ashen quadrant, and i have been dissecting it a little! my point essentially boils down to: ashen romance, while frequently portrayed as born purely out of social necessity, is its own fully fledged romance that should be separated from moirallegience and kismesissitude in our minds.

so with flushed and pitch romance, while born from VERY different feelings, they are both generally rooted in physical desire. and looking at the conciliatory quadrants, i feel like it is not out of line to assume they could be two very separate romances rooted in similar feelings. which in this case would be protective, pitying feelings.

so what is auspisticism? as it is defined in homestuck, it is a relationship where two trolls are for some reason unable to enter a fully fledged kismesissitude, and a third troll enters the relationship to mediate. it serves a crucial social function, though there is no reason to assume it isnt born through real romantic feelings. if we take a look at the other conciliatory quadrant, moirallegience also serves to soothe the violence highbloods are prone to, however few around these parts would deny that moirallegience is a emotionally fulfulling romantic relationship.

ashen relationships can be socially necessary when one or both inner leaves already have a kismesis, or it would threaten the social situation (ex: two coworkers attempt to become kismeses). however, it also becomes necessary when the problem is with the rivalry itself! if its unbalanced in one trolls favor, if one troll hates the other more than they do, or if the kismesissitude becomes physically dangerous for the two parties, the relationship could benefit from an auspistice.

so what would ashen feelings look like? if im being honest, i feel like a small part of the collective understanding of auspisticism comes from how polyamory tends to be portrayed. as in, the relationship is seen as one unit, rather than three individual dynamics. ashen feelings, similar to pale feelings, comes from feelings of protectiveness for another troll. in this case, two trolls! similar to kismesissitude, it comes from generally negative emotion. combining that, you end up with feelings of annoyance directed at these two trolls who will not stop going at each others throats, because holy hell cant they see this is not good for them, ok someone needs to step in here, holy shit. it is mutual irritation, and as my favorite fic of all time (miracle child by bramblepatch on ao3) says, "isn't that what an auspistice is for, to do things that he minds so that his co-auspicetee won't do things that he hates?"

in conclusion! ashen romance is so much more than just a social obligation that gets in the way of a proper kismesissitude. it can be as fulfilling as pitch and pale romance, and encompasses a WIDE range of dynamics. dynamics that could be fascinating to explore when we accept that ashen romance is its own sort of unique romantic attraction! all this to say this is how sollux ♧ karkat ♧ eridan can still win

THE END HIT ME LIKE A TRUCK LMAOO but yes all of this is really good!! ashen romance is DEFINITELY for real it’s own thing and i really like the delicate sort of “this is hate but it’s ashen hate” type of thing

like some people will sometimes represent auspisticism as like… “oh you poor guys i’m so worried about you 🥺” which. while i get where they got that from that is NOT hate, that’s pity, and the whole point of auspisticism is that it’s conciliatory hate— MOIRALLEGIANCE is conciliatory pity. ashen hate is still hate, so yeah it would be more like “what the fuck is up with you two you need to cut this shit out”.

all in all! very good analysis!! more quadrant dynamics need to be explored in general, but ESPECIALLY in the ashen department.

Introject ask game: all the ones that end w/ 2 since it's my favorite number -Wilbur

13 - :)

2. What type of introject are you? (Fictive, factive, etc.)

fictiVe5 the lot of u5

≈technically coco and i are occctivesss. :>~

12. What's your least favourite thing about your source?

>.i die. .that is not very cash money of my source.<

oh come on you recoVer from that

>¿but do I remember it? .no. .because I woke up HERE after dying instead.<

≈will you two ssstop bickering? i don't really have an anssswer for thisss one.~

ok ok fine my turn then uh vvell 5peakin purely about home5tuck canon i dont like the frequent u5e a 5ome 5lur5 or the canon name for chucklehexe5 vvhich i vvont type becau5e i think it5 di5re5pectful like i al5o ju5t dont knovv hovv to put thi5 but 5ome part5 a canon are actually kind a painful to read becau5e a exomemorie5 al5o can i ju5t 5ay the entirety a the epilogue5

13. Any funny exomemories?

>.ok so. .i had a kismesis. .his name is enyali. .anyways, it took us about a sweep to finally start dating. .see, i'm a quadrant anarchist. .he believes quadrants are the Only Way to have romantic relationships. .at the same time enyali and i were flirting. .i was also flirting with melara. .yali also had this...genocide the coldbloods complex. .to put it bluntly. .so he was not a fan of the fact that i was flirting with a seadweller. .especially since none of my quadrants at the time were warmer than teal. .so his deal was, if we were going to be kismeses, i couldn't keep flirting with mel, much less enter a kismesissitude with her as well.< >.backstory out of the way. .after a chat with one of my moirails. .voidsong, to be precise. .i finally made up my mind regarding enyali. .so the next time we met in person - at a party amphit was hosting - i asked him out.< >.specifically, i took a (very much unloaded) pistol, held it to the back of his head and cocked it, and told him when and where to meet me for our first date. .and that he could thank voidsong for all of this.< >.damn bastard couldn't get a coherent sentence out. .it was the funniest fucking thing. .he kept sputtering and trying to yell at me and voidsong at the same time. .he was so mad his face was like. .brick red almost.<

≈...i'm not entirely sssure that isss humorousss by human ssstandardsss?~

>.then human standards are boring.<

<<just remember to trigger tag that.>>

≈let'sss sssee. one of mine isss probably the time i got to fire a particularly... annoying... client of mine.~ ≈back in the empire, my primary passssssion wasss fassshion desssign, and i ran a sssmall busssinessssss doing cussstom work for mossstly purplesss and violetsss. one of my friendsss, amphit, invited me along asss her plusss one for a formal event, and of courssse i had to make her outfit.~ ≈well, who elssse ssshould be there but one murani sssathet? i hated doing work for them, becaussse they were ssso... prissssssy and ssstuck up. they treated me like a ssslave; i ssshudder to think of how they mussst have treated anyone warmer blooded. but unfortunately, they were quite popular within the local coldblood sssocccial cccirclesss, and jussst dropping them would have been terrible for my busssinessssss.~ ≈sssathet and amphit liked to sssnipe at each other. i think they were a little pitch, but that'sss jussst ssspeculation. and what ssshould sssathet choossse to deride about amphit that night but her attire?~ ≈i had gone to get usss sssome drinksss, otherwissse sssathet might have guessssssed that i made amphit'sss dressssss.~ ≈oh, you could have heard a pin drop when i cleared my throat right behind them, in the middle of them making sssome negative comment. i think it might have been about asssymmetric ssseamsss, i'm not sssure. i took great pleasssure in informing them that sssinccce my work wasss ssso sssubssstandard, i would hate to wassste any more of their time and money, and that i wissshed them the bessst of luck in finding a more sssatisssfactory tailor.~

i cant think of any a the funny one5 at the moment 5orry

22. What activities/things remind you of your source?

EVERYTHING IS [HOMESTUCK]~

ye5 thank you glitch vvhat couldnt remind u5 of our 5ource hone5tly

>.i like wearing oversized sweaters. .reminds me of stealing my matesprit's hoodies and such. .i may have mentioned this on this blog ages ago, but it's the only thing that comes to mind.<

i like layin at the bottom of a 5vvimmin pool an 5tarin up at the 5tar5 neVer thought id 5ay thi5 but i mi55 my 5hitty excu5e5 for gill5 you knovv vvhat5 vvor5e than half formed gill5 none at all

≈making clothing in sssome way makesss me feel a bit more at hive, if that countsss.~

@veiledfox​​ -  I still never really understood the card suit thing

Okay we speak of the shipping charts/quadrants ONCE

I also could be totally wrong so feel free to correct me but this is how I have interpreted them?????

The card-suit shipping I will say was actually something I did enjoy from homestuck and lowkey, wish it was implemented more because of how much it emphasized more than JUST romantic relationships.

So you had 4 Quadrants, it was seen that, as a troll, you should aim to fill each one of these with the respective relationship

Flushed / Heart / Matesprite

This is your romantic lover, your partner, what we would consider your GF/Significant Other/Wife/Husband/Married partner, whatever you want to call it. They are someone you love and support on a deeper level than friendship. It represents positive and loving emotions with someone you care for deeply.

Moirail / Moirallegiance / Pale / Diamond

Think of this as not only your like, best friend, but someone who is willing to help step in and help you through more difficult things and keep you in line. You care for one another and want to see one another strive for the best they can and help in whatever way they can, ensuring that they do not become overly destructive and help with other issues that a Matesprite might not be able to. You can also think of this as a confidant like role as well since this one requires a lot of trust to establish a secure moirallegiance.

Kismesis / Kismesissitude / Black Romance / Spade

Okay, your rival, but you fuck. In all seriousness this person is supposed to be someone you do not like, but can tolerate and someone who pushes you to be the best you can be out of pure spite. You basically are angerly attracted at someone and through that dislike/hatred you have a good outlet for negative emotions without it becoming too abusive as it is frowned upon to seriously injure or kill them. In a healthy kismesissitude you should hold a level of respect and admiration for one another, they are someone who will call out or push you to the limits that your Matesprite wouldn’t but in that they do help you become better overall.

Auspisticism / Ash / Club

This is basically a mediator role. It isn’t exactly romantic in many ways but it is a role designated normally between two conflicting parties and a 3rd mediator who helps smooth out issues or problems between normally 2 parties. The Auspisice also tends to help mediate in relationships as well, helping work out issues and problems that the two people could not normally work out by themselves or when it becomes too difficult for one party to. IE: If someone is in an abusive relationship, and Auspisice might step in to help mend or end the relationship

Please talk about your a-spec headcanons... I would love to hear them^^ also I hope you're having a great day!

I am having an EXCELLENT day and it’s mostly because I’m getting to talk about my a-spec headcanons but also because I just bought some cherries and kiwis and I’m Vibing

I have Oh So Many Headcanons and this post would be unreadable if I talked about all of them at once, so I’ll just pick one from each category of This Is Canon, Could Be Canon, and I’m Just Having Fun Here

I just talked about the two big canon ones (re: Jake and John) but the other canon one is Calliope!! She talks about how cherubs can’t do romance, and she really wishes she could because she loves the idea of it so much, so I headcanon Callie as cupioromantic and asexual! She doesn’t feel romantic or sexual attraction, but she feels Really Strong platonic affection and she is definitely not opposed to the idea of a romantic relationship. Personally, I like to headcanon her as being in a relationship with Roxy that’s romantic on Roxy’s end and platonic on Calliope’s end! They Are Care For Each Other

as for a headcanon that I’m mostly just indulging myself with but also could be sorta grounded in canon, Gamzee! This,, might be controversial by virtue of Gamzee being Gamzee, but I think he’d be lithromantic. He definitely seeks out those quadrant relationships (Tavros, Karkat, Terezi) but the with ones that actually result in a relationship, they seem kind of half-assed? If you get me talking about the pale subtext in Karkat and Gamzee’s dynamic leading up to the actual Incident, I’d be talking for hours, but once they were actually together, he just. stopped caring? Which of course could be due to the other factors involved, but could also be the lith thing of “I want this romantic relationship” *gets in a relationship* “I no longer want this romantic relationship.” The same with Terezi. They were an absolute fucking dumpster fire together and not healthy, and I don’t think what they were doing counted as a proper kismesissitude. A good pitch relationship needs to have some basis in respect/admiring the other person and wanting to improve yourself through your rivalry with them, and that just... wasn’t there with them. They were just a fucked up way for Gamzee to take his anger out on someone and for Terezi to punish herself, and it makes me very sad :(

and my purely self indulgent headcanons are... all of them! but my go-to is aroace Tavros. You could maybe base this in canon bc he seems pretty freaked out when someone expresses a physical interest in him and all of the “crushes” he had seemed pretty performative, but honestly I mostly just headcanon Tavros as aroace because I’m aroace and I love him. Also fun is pan ace Jade! @thatneoncrisis and I were talking about her earlier, and I just. love her. She loves love and affection and being around other people, but sex is just  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ she’s just hanging out

i took my time reading the epilogue and i’m gonna read it again (a lot) because i want to get nice and deep in some of the very cool symbolism that was going on there, but here are my takes so far:

candy

i read candy first and i think that was a good call, mostly because the stuff that alt!calliope said about narrative voice was explicit and fresh in my mind for meat

johnrezi was touching as fuck, especially in candy where i felt they had a very meaningful kismesissitude

they did an excellent job of making gamzee repulsive. like, a really good job. it reminded me of how writers will sometimes make “protagonists” in horror movies unlikeable to a) make people lean into the bloodlust and b) criticise how far people would go to punish someone who is unpalatable

my friend dave said this, which made me laugh out loud:  “ JOHN: vriska caliborn egbert, you were named after two of the bravest people i ever knew. “

my heart broke time and time again for how dave and karkat were on the precipice of finding each other so many times and they were so miserable without that closure

john assigning vriska as (vriska) was fucking hilarious to me ... and her moment of revelation with vriska was beautiful. very tidy, thematically

john feeling guilty about authoring a child just for them to suffer is, like all the epilogue, working on multiple levels and i can’t wait to get into deeper analysis of this later—it ties very nicely into a lot of the meat themes which are that the reader is the one responsible for the action because they are witnessing it. there’s interplay there and i will write an essay on the subject when i have more time/spoons

dream obama gives the best advice. i’m so glad dave got to meet him. that coming out was a long time coming.

aradia and alt!calliope’s discussion on stories is retroactively the reason i decided to go back to university and study literature.

meat

jakes intelligence continually being disparaged just makes me very sure that he’s hiding again, he sees a lot more than he’s given credit for

john realising that he has depression is really important—it was very obvious to me that he was throughout candy, almost as if they were going down the list of symptoms, but he couldn’t confront it because he thought it was all because the world was pointless. this is very common.

i think that the Point might be that thinking in terms of "villain" or even "antagonist" is counter-productive—once upon a time in homestuck the bad guys were monstrous aliens and larger than life and evil for the sake of being evil, but that’s not how it usually goes in the real world. people who cause harm in this world we live in have friends and family, they think they’re doing the right thing and they are blind to their privilege. growing up does not always mean growing to be good, though we like to pretend that we outgrow our flaws as we age. 

(oh god, dirk is acting more like bro and i am baaaaad for finding that hot)

i can't believe i haven't written dirk and rose exchanging rapid fire wikipedia gained philosophy, that’s exactly my speed. maybe i’ll write a version where dirk didn’t wait until rose was literally fighting for consciousness to verbally spar with her. you better believe rose can take him on even a slightly better day than this.

dirk taking over the narrative, calliope fighting him and subtle shit like the font size changing was very sexy. i love experimental fiction.

dirk was working very hard to make it obvious that his taking over the narrative was bad, that his character was bad (because how else would dirk strider ever want to be seen), and i understand that. i understand him. i’m not briefed on what made him think that he needed to gun for the just death, but i can see how this makes sense for his character. alt!calliope is pretending to be completely impartial, but her use of the narration to make john more aware of his feelings felt deeply intrusive to me, especially because she doesn’t seem to be aware that she’s not being impartial. her approach to narration actually reminds me a lot of jane’s approach to politics. plausible innocence and very well intentioned. dirk admits and in fact draws attention to it when he changes a characters thoughts and feelings. but, as my friend dave said, “theres no such thing as a purely objective authorial voice”. i can’t believe i want to bring up plato. it’s no coincidence that dirk was playing the heel in the rap-wrestling scene with jake. 

i liked the acknowledgement that jake is a nymphette (always in the spotlight, incredibly fetishised and looked on with voyeurism but fundamentally pure; sexy and infantalised). there’s an essay there, too.

i don’t disagree with any of the characterisations here, but i would like to see a (jane), even if i have to write her myself.

i have more thoughts but i’m also very tired and there’ll be plenty of time to think about this later. all in all, i loved the epilogues. they were homestuck. they made me feel and think and laugh and grimace. 

Purqun Tiahin Introduction!

fHello everyone and welcome to another introduction! We haven’t posted in a while because we are very lazy, but now that school started I will be looking forward to write more, as some kind of reward for my hard work :P I know none of you are actually reading us, but if one day we get well known maybe you will see how bad we are. Anyway, today I’ll be presenting the biggest nerd but also the strongest girl of the session, our purple blood Purqun Tiahin! As always I’ll be presenting according to the following with just a little change:

Basic informations and life stuff

Personality

Miscellaneous content and stuff about sburb

1.Basic Informations and life stuff:

Starting off with the basics of basic informations, Purqun Tiahin is a purple blooded troll, and as her blood caste shows, she’s a tall girl with long black hair. But who cares about appareances? Artists most probably, but I’m divaguing. This time, Purqun doesn’t mean aything I know of, as it was an oc I got by adopting her. Only her sprite and a few facts about her, and here I went creating her! 

Unlike other purple bloods, she despises violence, and is always looking for a calm place to stay. Thankfully, her hive is everything she could have ever asked for, it being an incredibly large castle, with about a fourth of it being a library. Indeed, Purqun is the kind of person you see either with a book, a lack of sleep, or their legs hugged to their chest. Since her life has been surrounded with books her whole life she not only like reading and staying up at day (???) to finish a book, but she also lives in a world of Pure Imagination. She likes fantasy books the most, with a cute romance between the hero and the princess. But she was put in such a place for obscure reasons. 

When her lusus picked her, she was forced to go live in that castle with her new grub. Vulturemom (purqun’s lusus) tried to keep her grub away from the world she was fated for, which is being the official writer of the Purple Chronics, a 24 volumes series, each about a purple sign, counting the adventures and prowesses of the Clown Church’s followers. Through the sweeps, after her lusus gave up on keeping her away from her destiny, she writes 3 of them, her ancestors, Chahut’s and Gamzee’s. But before finishind all of them, in her 9th sweep, she gets into sburb and she’ll understand how stupid this whole thing was, though she might tell you about the purple chronicles if you ask about it! 

Purqun is Namurr’s matesprite, and she met her thanks to her moirail who will be presented next by mod ral! Her kismesis has also been presented, and it is Mutirr! Indeed, through the game, Mutirr discovered that her descendant was dating a purple blood, and because of her own matesprite, she got to dislike highbloods, and as she got to really like her descendant, she couldn’t help but hate Purqun for dating her, so they both agreed to get into a kismesissitude.

2. Personality

First, I’d like you to imagine your life, away from any other life forms out of cockroaches and your bird mom, in a large castle you can’t explore. Purqun grew mad at this situation and decided to explore it all when she was just a kid and ended up getting lost where she was forbidden to go to: the library. After a few days in there, and after her lusus found her again, she became very curious about all of this, and started reading. Thanks to all the fictions she has read, she  has become a very open and kind hearted person, as it is told in adventures novels or love stories. She is a huge fan of love fictions, and she herself likes to write some in her free time.

The said free time is pretty small. Indeed, after finally getting interested in her duty as the writer of the Purple Chronicles, she was forced to spend at least 16 hours a day in her library to learn about different writing styles to be the most efficient possible while writing the different volumes. This also created some parts of her personality, like the fact that she is open but can also be very rude if she’s being interrupted in her work. Because of that she became paranoid, and her mental state was detoriating with time. But one day, as she was already managing the library, as a lot of highbloods were interested in her collection, a teal blooded girl came to ask about some book, and from this day, she kept coming times to times, and the two girls kept in touch and at one point much later, they got into a matespriteship, and maybe you’ve got that the teal blooded girl is actually Namurr.

Actually, a few weeks before, Purqun met a bronzeblood, and became moirail with him, and he saw that she didn’t have enough time to have friends so he decided to send one of his friends there for her! What a great friend really, he is so cute. But thanks to those two people, she got new friends, and came back to her original self, the open and kind hearted self. 

However, through the years, Purqun was like any other purple blood, very hot tempered. Even if she is nice to the people coming to get some books, she despises rude people, or very noisy people. In those case she could also be rude, but most of the time she’ll go straight for the kick in the butt out of the building, but given that her feet are covered by iron boots, I don’t think it would just leave a few marks. But like some people, she could either break things or take a bath, it would make her feel much more relaxed and calm her down $, releasing her from all the pression that’s put on her shoulders. 

3. Miscellaneous content and stuff about sburb

In sburb, Purqun was of great help to the team, as she was probably the tankiest of all the 12 trolls, and the closed range fighter. With her notebook&pencilkind as her strife specibi, she can combine both of them for defense and offense respectively, as she can make the pen as long as she wants or as hard as she wants with a bit of crafting, which helps when her favorite way of fighting is through throwing both of her weapons really hard at people. When they all entered their mediums, she got in the game thanks to the Fushia blood of the team and got the rust blood in, the two that you will see soon probably. I

 never mentionned it here, but she’s our sylph of life, as she’s literally a story teller. In a basic way, sylphs can tell you about their aspect and heal through or the aspect in particular to others. As a sylph of life, she is able to “heal life”, which means she can revive anyone, make someone old young again, cool stuff like that. Her medium is the Land of Snowdrops and Crowns (LoSaC), and surprisngly enough, there’s literally no crowns visible at the surface of the planet, which is covered in snow. Her quest is to find a way to get all of those crowns out of the snow, by either makig them all come at the surface or make all of the snow melt, at the price of disrupting the cold ecosystem for the consorts. 

Her fetch modus is pretty annoying, but quite interesting in my opinion. To retrieve an item out of her inventory, she needs to tell a story about the said object without saying what it is, and the most related item to the story will be taken out. 

Her whole look is inspired of coats gentlefolks used to wear in europe (and probably in america idk), and since I don’t want to add more pics in there, look for Julian from the Arcana game, he wears something like that. She also wears very big boots, kind of looking like equius’ but more of a steel and kicking hard type. 

I think that’s it folks for today, I’ll try making more content from now on, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have to repost and like of course :P see you soon, next time i’ll introduce a character it will be my olive blooded fortune teller! 

Homestuck/Hiveswap Troll OCs: Mid-bloods

Zirmia Eakrie

Zirmia is a known to be the most hated olive-blood within Alternia. The reason for this is his personality. As you can see, olive-bloods are the most aggressive and violent among the rest of the types of blood (not counting purple). Zirmia is the complete opposite of all that. He’s a fucking monk! He’s all about peace and harmony and all that shit. Now Zirmia was once like all the other olive-bloods, violent and hardcore. He would cull any troll that messes with him and such. One day, he managed to come across a group of trolls with shaved heads and holding necklaces that represent the Suffering. He was about to cull them but one of the troll monks intervene in the conflict. The troll was peaceful and kind to Zirmia, and invited him to stay with their hive on the highest peak of Alternia (where they remain safe from the drones). Zirmia ironically accepts and joins them to live with the troll monks. After a few sweeps, Zirmia managed to become accepted with monks and changed his entire viewpoint and personality permanently. A few sweeps later, Zirmia remains as a peaceful monk who wants harmony all the trolls. Zirmia is also teaching Ushrm about peace and civil disobedience and such. Zimia’s quirk is putting “☮” in every “O”. Example: ZE: I see that see that y☮u are interested in j☮ining me and my br☮thers in ☮ur m☮rning meditati☮n. Is that true? Zimria has been death threated by every blood color and is being targeted by assains every day. It’s a shame at least, he just wants peace and harmony with all trolls and such.

Hunarct Freyes

Hunarct is a troll of “god” we can say in a humorist way. She’s a jade-blood nun and with all that being said, she and the rest of the jade-bloods take role with the mother grub and all the wigglers. Hunarct takes this to a creepy level and makes the mother grub deal as if it was a religion. Her personality is strict but calm and pure as possible as any other human nun will act. She teaches all the jade-blood wigglers about the mother grub and the importance of being a jade-blood and such. Hunarct has a Kismesissitude relationship with the most punky, badass mutant Cindric. Deep inside, her feeling is deep red, but the cause of her religion believes and personality remains in a pale like a viewpoint. Cindric knows that she's into him and flirts with her all the time. Hunarct just shrugs it off, even though the deep inside of herself, she cares a lot about him and doesn't want anything to happen to him. Hunarct’s quirk matches with her troll symbol by having “<>” being put in at the beginning and ending with each sentence. Example: HF: <>It’s not my view to see these wigglers as a burden to the mother grub.<> <>They’re one with the mother grub, and it’s my responsibility to guide them into enlightenment!<> It’s silly to make fun of her all you want, but she’s serious as any troll. She takes her work to the extream and if anyone questions her values and views, she will cull them in the name of the mother grub.

Kratel Ikkuza

Kratel is a hardworking teal-blood that gets the job done. Like all teal-bloods, she’s a lawyer or some kind. She’s into evidence and works with Alternian Security of Evidence Authority (ASEA for short). She works in close hands with murder crimes and criminal evidence and such. She often doses her work to the fullest, winning or loses cases based on the trolls blood color. Kratel is sick and tired of how corrupted the justice system is in Alterina and wanted a real, legal system be in place; with facts and pure evidence. Her personality is often quick and busy like because she’s on the move all the time with paper, files, and boxes containing evidence of the case in her hands. She quick and hyper but takes it down a few notches to try to explain what’s going on and such. Her socially awkward approach makes you feel like she has no quadrant, you are dead wrong. Kratel has a loving matesprite and that is a oldtimer Draxot. Often or not, Draxot loves Kratel with a burning passion and in a chill way too. He secretly helps Kratel out with some evidence work by spying on trolls and such. Her quirk hard to read, since she talks very quietly, she speaks in all caps and replaces the letters “X and S” with “% and 5”. Example: KI: DO YOU HAVE IDEA HOW E%CIDING THI5 WILL BE!? THINK OF ALL THE E%5PECTATION THE PRO5ECUTOR WOULD HAVE. Kratel is mildly relaxed in some situations but remains quick and active when the shit hits the fan.

Draxot Lomran

Draxot is among a legend to all cerulean-bloods. He spent his entire life as a dedicated spy,   alongside with empire. He was good at it, like really good at it. One of the best spies of his generation to be in fact! This guy could get the evidence and such in a snap and dose it by culling trolls quickly and silently. Well, the word “silent” took a heavy toll on him. On one of his missions, he was set-up by a purple-blood and was almost beaten to death and left in a burning, abanded factory. Cause of this, he lost his voice and his act. After that, Draxot hated the spy bonuses and such, realizing that he risks his life every day to work with corrupted high-bloods. He then retired from being the spy and helped work with his matesprite Kratel on her evidence work. He’s tired from his work and is often living with Kratel’s hive all the time with two lususes. Sadly, he only has a few sweeps from becoming an adult and joining the other adult trolls, conquering other planets and such. He will then be back as a spy and remained trapped in his own work. Because Draxot is muted and is a retired spy, his quirk is entirely in Morse code, but there is a translation, don’t you worry. Example: DL: -.-- --- ..- / - .... .. -. -.- / .. - .----. ... / .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. ..- -. / .- -. -.. / --. .- -- . ... / -... . .. -. --. / .- / ... .--. -.-- ..--.. / .-- . .-.. .-.. --..-- / -.-- --- ..- / .-- .. .-.. .-.. / -... . / - .... . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / -.-. .... --- .. -.-. . / -.- .. -.. .-.-.- / .. - # ... / .- / -- .- - - . .-. / --- ..-. / .-.. .. ..-. . / --- .-. / -.. . .- - .... .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.- (You think it's all fun and games being a spy? Well, you will be the wrong choice kid. It’s a matter of life or death...) Kratel knows what he’s saying without studdering or being completely clueless. Draxot normally taps on a metal bracelet in his left hand to communicate in. For the most time, he’s super chill and tired all the time, hoping to enjoy his life before he becomes an adult.

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Quadrants, huh? Alright. Let's see. How about Nepeta and Terezi in healthy caliginous relationships?

Wow, right into the difficult things, eh? I made these like what I think of their /most ideal/ match so that there’s the most rivalry for most respect, get what I’m saying?

Nepeta would be an interesting person to strike spades with, to say the least. 

Between her insistence when it comes to her favorite ships and her easily carried away nature, a potentially healthy point to start would likely be from being a competent matchmaker with a clashing viewpoint. This could be as simple as pointing out a lack of chemistry between a flagship of hers and develop into tearing them down in annoyance. 

Heaven forbid you start actually getting your way and successfully make a ship of yours canon. Especially if it negates a ship of hers or causes a ship she managed to become canon to vacillate or break off. Those would be major points of conflict for her, and would likely lead to the type of conflict kismesissitude demands.

HOWEVER. The black quadrant also demands respect- and so there are boundaries one must take into account to actually make this work, especially in the long term. One of those boundaries is Karkat. If you get together with him or get him together with someone else, you’re gonna have the un-pitch kind of conflict and it’ll take it from being frustrated and having competition to wanting each other dead and/or terminating the relationship.

Terezi, was in a really unhealthy pitch situation with Gamzee pre-retcon.

There are likely trolls out there who could base a pitch relationship with each other purely based on their negative feelings for one another. Terezi has proven herself to not be one of them. She is an inherently distracted, cloudy-minded, and overeager troll lady and while a spade based on hate entertained her, it did not fulfill her. Gamzee offered no points for a rivalry to grow- no potent back-and-forth. To be Terezi’s kismesis is to hold her attention and inspire thought-provoking rebuttal.

There are a few effective ways one could go about doing so. For instance, as she largely places herself at the prosecution end of the law, one could always instigate conflict in the form of acting as a defendant. Considering the fact that she’s only studied Alternian law- which is likely as brutal as the culture it commands- this would also be an especially great point of conflict for a human counterpart, considering the challenges of ‘defence attornies’ and ‘reasonable doubt’ are likely things she’s never had to consider.

Could you imagine Terezi having her gallows all calibrated for the demise of someone she’s convinced is guilty only to have it table turned? In her face? And to top it all off- you didn’t use any psychic powers- you just used the law?! Oh god, I hope you’re ready for a hate-date because I think she’d immediately respect your knowledge, be thankful she didn’t have an innocent’s blood on her hands, and hate your stance in law.

The boundaries I’d place for Terezi are probably two things: one, don’t get her killed for her job. She likes this job, she’s probably residing over Troll Kingdom’s courts in Earth C. She’d like to keep doing that. Secondly, don’t endanger her other relationships for the sake of rebuttal. Justice, maybe, but not for a rebuttal.

uhhh can you explain the homestuck quadrant thing to me, please? i keep hearing/seeing it referenced but I've never read the webcomic

Oh wow ahaha okay. I'll make it quick and easy! (and im on my phone so sorry if theres typos!) Quadrants are how the troll aliens in Homestuck describe their romance.

Quandrants are identified through the suits on a deck of cards, so Hearts, Diamonds, Spades, and Clubs. The two "Red" quadrants (Hearts and Diamonds) are called "flushed" attraction, and is like how we humans typically view positive romantic feelings. The two "Black" quadrants (Spades and Clubs) are more like hate-love basically and can tend towards violence or rivlary (trolls are a very violent species as a part of their culture)

Hearts is called Matespritship or the flushed quadrant. It is essentially how we view romantic love.

Diamonds is called Moirallegiance or the pale quadrant, and it is kinda like being best friends with someone and leaning on them for emotional support. It is viewed as a romantic oritentation and is important to romance despite the fact that it is purely platonic. It is meant to keep both side of the relationship stable in an otherwise violent and difficult society (when applied to trolls).

Spades is called Kismesissitude or the black quadrant. This is hate-love or a very intense rivalry. Someone that you hate so much that you love them. It's supposed to be something humans can't really understand, but I don't think its really that hard to grasp.

Finally, Clubs are called Auspisticism or the ashen quadrant. Since the symbol for Clubs is a 3 leaf clover, this kind of relationship actually has 3 people. This features a pair of Kismesises who are volatile and are probably being too violent for each other, aka, an unhealthy version of the relationship (because a real Kismesissitude should not actually be unhealthy). Thus, the third person in the relationship is called an Auspice, and is meant to balance out the issues and make the relationship between the other two go much more smoothly.

The goal for trolls is generally to fill each quadrant with a relationship, but it can get complicated and theres a lot of drama sometimes. But i think that covers the basics ahah.

Lol feel free to ask if you have any more questions! I don't ship via quadrants very much tbh but its kinda fun to use sometimes. I never expected to be explaining that, it was fun!

Title: when the evening is spread out against the sky

Rating: PG-13 Warnings: Telekinetic Sparring Relationships: Psiioniic/Fantroll, Psiioniic & Fantroll Characters: The Psiioniic (Mituna Captor), various fantrolls.  Additional Tags: Ancestor-Era, Pre-Signless Word Count: 2599  Summary: The trolls you pick for your quads aren’t necessarily the ones who will make you grow the most as a troll. And sometimes, the opportunity for a kismesissitude presents with a strange serendipity of its own. Your name is Mituna Captor, a young upstart of a psion, from Sigma Block, like you, challenges you to a duel, you intend to wipe the floor with them, but that’s not quite what happens.

“Since you are six now, your classes will be split between four areas,” Instructor Asyeva says to Pinyix. “Intermediate telekinetic training, elementary instructor training, elementary helmsblock training, and intermediate schoolfeeding.”

She hands Pinyix their new schedule, and then leaves the nutritionblock. You have to admit that Pinyix looks handsome in their new black jumpsuit, the sort that all trolls wear when they are between the ages of six and ten sweeps of age.

“Nine hours on, fifteen hours off?” they ask, after scrutinizing ther schedule, looking around at all of you for guidance.

“You get off lucky now, Pinyix,” Velyor says from his spot, with his head resting against their shoulder. “Next sweep it’ll be twelve hours on and twelve hours off, for you. By the time you’re eight and a half, it’ll be fifteen hours on, and nine hours off.”

Pinyix nods.

“What’s Calculus?” they ask, looking over their schoolfeeding courses. “I mean, I know what it is, but what do you do there?”

“Calculus is basically an incentive to become a helmsman,” Arcsin says, devouring the unfertilized cluckbeast offspring and fried oinkbeast strips that Xhogar made. “Cause if you don’t end up in the helm, you’re probably gonna end up as an instructor, teaching that shit to wigglers. And it’s bad enough learning it the first time.”

“That is hardly the purpose of Calculus,” Arctan says. “You’ll need a grasp of it to understand the math you’re going to learn later on. Matrix Algebra and Differential Equations, and such.”

“I’m telling you, Calculus is a conspiracy to have as many of us practically beg for conscription as possible. It’s pure masochism.”

“If your thing for Arccos is any indication, you’re quite the expert on masochism,” you say to Arcsin, wiggling your eyebrows.

Arccos does not deign to respond to that, except to snort. Most everyone grins. 

Meanwhile, Arcsin flushes bright yellow. You’d apologize for embarrassing him, but can’t not give your ‘rail shit about his burgeoning kismesissitude. It’s practically your job as a moirail.

When Jishui enters the nutritionblock, she looks surprised, and has a new schedule in her hand.

“Instructor training,” she says. “More instructor training.”

“Really? You?” Arccos asks, shocked.

“Advanced telekinetic training, advanced helmsblock training, and intermediate instructor training,” she says, digging an energy grub out of a drawer, and swallowing the entire thing whole, shell and all. “This until I hit twelve, which is when I get tested for conscription again. They wanted to test me again at eleven, but Irvaan and Asyeva overruled them.”

“So Irvaan does have a soul,” Xhogar muses. “Who knew?”

“He’s gotta take his head outta his wastechute every so often so he can come up for air,” Hiongo figures.

All of you laugh.

“So, Tuna,” Arcsin says, sitting down next to you. “What’s your schedule look like?”

“Intermediate instructor fuckshit, intermediate helmsblock fuckshit, advanced schoolfeeding, and advanced telekinetic fuckshit.”

You pass the sheet of paper over to him.

“The Mother has smiled upon us. Same fuckin’ classes,” he says. “Same for Tan, right?”

“Nah, I have helmsblock training with ‘Cos. Advanced,” he says, sounding slightly discomfited.

Only time they put you in advanced helm training at your age is when you’ll probably be up for conscription once you hit the age of ten. You really hope that is not the case for Arctan, because unlike Arccos, Arctan has shown no desire to become a helmsman.

Arcsin shrugs. “Whatever, though, we’re all in the same class for telekinesis. Least we get to fight each other, that’s always fun. Pinyix, you can watch and learn.”

“Yeah, watch you cry every time you get paired off to spar with Arccos, Mother of all grubs,” Jishui says.

Technically speaking, you’re not supposed to be able to spar with your kismesis or matesprit, lest the whole thing degenerate into makeouts. Hasn’t really stopped anyone yet.

As for Pinyix, well, they take all of you up on your offer, and watch you guys fight while instructors look on, assuming Pinyix doesn’t have other work to do.

Sparing is only a portion of what telekinetic training entails - most of it is really fucking boring - so you look forward to these nights. A lot of times, the fighting continues long after the instructors have ended things for the night, telekinetic training usually being your last class.

“Is it okay if I try to spar with any of you?” they ask.

You roll your two-toned eyes.

“This is advanced fuckshit, Pinyix, you probably haven’t learned some of these moves,” you say. “You sure you wanna get your ass handed to you?”

They’re maybe 125 cm, and can’t be any more than 34 kg, although size is no indicator of ability. Just look at Hiongo, Khifos, and Arccos. Pinyix you a smile as small as they are.

“We will see, Mituna.”

Velyor stands between the two of you, concerned.

“I think this is a bad idea.”

Pinyix waves their moirail off. 

“You think everything’s a bad idea, Velyor. Come on. Please?”

After much back and forth between the two of them, Velyor allows this duel to continue, with the knowledge that he may or may not put your ass in the infirmary if you seriously injure Pinyix. 

You get that he’s overprotective of his current, probably because of what happened to his last one, but this is mildly ridiculous. For the love of the Mother, Pinyix once shorted out nearly the entire fence, and that was like… four sweeps ago.

Once again, you roll your eyes. “I promise I won’t hurt the wiggler, swear on my jumpsuit. Can we get on with this so I can eat dinner?”

Etrare agrees to referee this. With her lower-level, but never erratic telekinesis, she fits this role perfectly. Velyor would too, if he weren’t experiencing a bad case of conflict of interest.

“Okay, nothing deadly, you two,” Etrare says. “And if I say stop, I mean stop. I’ll even get Arccos to stun you if I have to. First troll to hit the ground and not jump back up loses. If anyone loses consciousness, this match is automatically over.”

“Yeah, okay, whatever,” you say. “Were you a lusus in your last life?”

“Sometimes I wonder with all of you,” she replies.

You and Pinyix take your positions, hovering 300 cm off the ground, on opposite sides of the sparring enclosure, Etrare floating off to the side, shields already deployed..

“Three… two… one…” she says. 

You start to charge up one of your attacks. That’s not against the rules.

“Begin.”

You aim a jet of energy straight for Pinyix’s abdomen. It reverberates off their shields and hits the wall about five inches away from you.

So they were charging your shields while you were charging an attack.

Go figure.

This could be potentially interesting.

Pinyix hits you with a low-energy attack, but one that trips you nevertheless. Oh. This will not do. You deploy shields, and your next attack is so intense that it sends their head rocking back when they absorb it. Somehow, they are still on their feet after that.

“Pinyix!” Velyor shouts.

“They’re fine,” Arctan says. “Look.”

Pinyix, one eyebrow raised, doesn’t drop out of their grief stance, or even seem to have broken a sweat.

You send a barrage of attacks after them, barely pausing to breathe. They dodge some, and absorb others. You don’t know why they’re absorbing some of them. You’ve seen their shields. They can maintain shields with more ease than you can.

At some point, this degenerates into an all out brawl, both of you looking somewhat worse for the wear. Shit, you’re getting tired. You weren’t expecting this to last this long. Judging from the looks on your friends’ faces, neither were they.

Pinyix’s size has actually been an advantage for most of this, enabling them to dodge nearly everything you throw at them. Nearly.

But still. They’re getting more sloppy with their ordinarily graceful footwork, you can see it. You think one more direct hit will knock them out of the running, but not knock them out outright if you can use the precise amount of energy you intend. 

That’s even part of the reason instructors and elders encourage you to spar every now and then, although not typically without their supervision. It’s a good way to learn to maintain your psionic levels at precise intensities, and also as a means of bleeding off excess energy.

You let yourself drift closer to the ground, maybe 140ish cm up. At least if Pinyix falls, now, they won’t get too banged up. And Velyor would probably catch them.

Then, you charge and launch the hit.

Pinyix takes it, and doubles over, their shields flickering, everything about them flickering. They let out one long groan, and drop a full foot.

Oh, shit. Velyor is gonna kill your ass. So is everyone else. You deserved it. You wanted to them up, and you went too far.

“Pinyix?” you call. “Pinyix, c’mon. It’s over. You kicked my ass so let’s call it a draw. Don’t… don’t hurt yourself, now.”

They gaze up, their eyes glowing so brightly that it almost pains you to gaze at them for too long. With one hand, using only their fingertips, they form a violet ball of energy, and then you realize why they’d been absorbing so many of your hits.

They weren’t absorbing them unintentionally.

They were charging up.

They hurl the energy ball at you, ripping through your paltry shields, and sending your ass flying straight toward the ground at a terrifying velocity.

Just when you’re about to hit, and probably fracture something, you stop moving.

Pinyix inhales, and exhales sharply through their nose, as if they’re still exerting their power. You realize what’s going on.

You’re lying on one of their shields. They deployed a shield, just so it would take most of the force of your fall.

They lower you gently, and once you’re on the dirt floor, you sit flat on your ass, able to move, but not particularly inclined to do so. Then, your energy wavers, and you lie flat, staring up at the sky.

When they land, their footfalls barely making a sound, they walk over to to you.

They kneel, one knee on either side of you, some of their long hair tumbling into your face, the hair tie around their wrist now. You grimace at them. They give you a placid smile, although the darkness in their eyes says something else entirely.

“What was it you were saying about handing my ass to me?” they ask, before they help you up.

The worst part is, you actually do need their help to get up.

Mother of all grubs, you hate this tiny troll, and you’re not sure if it’s entirely platonic, which is probably not a good thing, considering that you already have a kismesis. And judging from how vehement Pinyix's expression has become, you’re kind of wondering if it’s entirely platonic on their end.

The two of you gaze around at your friends.

All of them look rather awestruck, well, except Etrare, Velyor, and Arctan. It’s immeasurably difficult to surprise any of them.

“Rock paper scissors on who has to play auspistice,” Arcsin mutters, then.

Etrare elbows him in the side. Velyor just shakes his head.

“Well, um…” he starts out. “That happened.”

None of you really says much of anything on it until you get to the communal nutritionblock, intent on eating whatever magical shit Xhogar and Hiongo have whipped up from their last foray over the fence.

“Long as they don’t start making out in the nutritionblock, I don’t give a shit,” Xhogar says, in a low tone. "Velyor, you're their moirail. I think it's probably time you give them the talk about the drones and the pails, later."

"I don't understand," Pinyix says. "What are all of you going on about?"

"Uh..." Hiongo starts out. "So that wasn't pitchflirting, then?"

Pinyix does not answer. Hiongo snorts.

"Bad form to get your pitch flirt on with a troll already spoken for in that quadrant," Zesria says fairly.

"It wasn't really pitchflirting at first, but Mituna's such an asshole when he wants to be.”

Mianni, your actual kismesis, bursts out laughing at that.

"Be still, my bloodpusher. He’s always an asshole for the record. Still, though, if you have a black crush on him, I don't particularly mind. Tuna? What do you think?"

You have been shoveling diced tubers and spiced grubloaf into your mouth for the longest time.

"What do I think about what?"

"About Pinyix, obviously."

You consider it. You are absolutely not about to say what you actually think out loud.

"I think I'm never letting them challenge me to a duel again."

"Tuna, you know that's not what she meant."

"Pin's six, and I'm seven and a half. And I have a kismesis. End of story."

For the first time tonight, Pinyix looks a little upset.  Hiongo rolls his eyes. Arccos smacks you in the shoulder, and holy hell does it sting.

"So you felt nothing at the end of that fight. Just trying to clarify here, because it definitely looked like you felt something."

"Even if I felt something, I have a kismesis. It's just... not gonna happen. It shouldn't happen."

"There's a difference between 'not gonna happen' and 'shouldn't happen', Tuna," Hiongo says. "Sides, Mianni here doesn't give a shit, right?"

"Not particularly."

Pinyix gets up, declares that they don't want to listen to any more of this - they've been embarassed enough for one evening - and makes to leave the nutritionblock until Khifos stops them at the door.

"Trust me, it'll just get way more embarassing if you don't sort things out now."

"If you say so. Hey, you guys aren't making fun of me, are you?"

"Nah," Arcsin says. "It's way more fun to make fun of Mituna."

Pinyix sits back down at the nutrition platform, across from you, but they're nervous.

And the thing about Pinyix? They're not an unattractive troll, even if they're tiny. They have thin but long horns that scribe their small frame in a great arc, a pleasant face, and a pleasant voice, at least when it's not getting on your nerves.

"Pretty good at pitchflirting, you know that?" you say to them. "You scared me shitless, and then you helped me up. That has got to be... one of the blackest things I've seen here."

That gets the hint of a smile out of them. Jishui nudges Pinyix with her elbow until they start to speak.

"Yeah, um, you too. That you wanted a fight, but whenever you were scared I was actually hurt, you'd either lower yourself so I'd lower myself, or you'd start sending off attacks you knew wouldn't affect me much, or you'd just flat out offer to call it a draw when you thought I went too far. It's um... it's nice to see that you care? Wish you'd care that much about yourself, though."

"Don't we all?" Jishui says.

All of a sudden, there are too many trolls here, with your and Pinyix's declarations hanging in the air.

"Wanna go for a walk? After you're finished eating?" you ask Pinyix.

"Sure, Mituna," they reply, smiling again. "I'm game. Etrare, do you want to come with us?"

"Whatever for?"

"Just in case."

Etrare snorts. "Are you asking me to play auspistice here?"

They look faintly sheepish. "Maybe."

She sighs, mutters something about how someone has to do it, so it might as well be her, and follows the two of you out of the nutritionblock.

Troll Romance Analysis

Hi there, welcome to my analysis on Troll Romance! This is a remake of my previous Romance analysis. I felt it was getting old and that I can write it much better than before. Long post incoming.

Contents

Troll society and sexuality

Troll emotions

Troll relationships

Troll romance and its social role

The Romance Quadrants

Matespritship: The flused quadrant

Kismesissitude: the caliginous quadrant

Moirallegiance: the pale quadrant

Auspistism: the ashen quadrant

Examples from Homestuck

Examples out of the comic

Please note that this analysis has quotes and examples from the comic and thus spoilers. Read under the cut only if you are ready for them.

Troll society and sexuality

Let us start by leaving something clear: Trolls are a violent race.

I’m not saying that they are incapable of feeling joy and attachement. They understand feelings different. Trolls live in a society built for galaxy conquist and massive repoblation.

Also note that even when they hold sexual activity, it does not have the social relevance ours has. This is because it is the Mother Grub who carries the duty of hatching the next generation of trolls. Sexual encounter is a social obligation every sexual troll couple has. They are to give genetic material to the Mother Grub, getting killed if they deny the fluids.

A consequence of this birth system is that genders have no differences. Unlike humans who reduced their ideas to gender roles beause of birth. Trolls are all bisexual by default. Some develop preferences for certain gender, but that is personal. I will leave you with the words of Karkat reacting to homosexuality, see how alien it is for them:

KARKAT: HUMANS HAVE A WORD FOR THAT?

This does not mean Trolls can’t have specific sexualities or genders! And this is canon. Go on into the  LGTBA+ side of trolls, and it is pretty much the same as with humans. Everyone is different and valid.

Troll emotions

Now that we are quoting Karkat, he explains that a troll understands their feelings as hate and pity. Everything else is a hue between that.

KARKAT: A WELL BALANCED PERSON [TROLL] IS GOING TO HAVE A GOOD DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN HATE AND THE VARIOUS PITY HUMORS. HAVING A GOOD BALANCE KEEPS ALL THE EMOTIONS SHARPER.

Here, Karkat is analyzing how the chemistry of troll relationships stays interesting. He talks about a balance that the troll must have. That way their relationships can be succesfull and fulfilling.

Troll relationships

The word Trolls have for Friend is the same they have for Enemy, and they consider it a social desease. Or at least their goverment does. Some migth know each other and become comrades, pals, buddies. Occasionally, their relationships will develop feelings from deep into the pity humors. Happiness, Peace, Regard. Or could get violent and salty, all the way into the hate hues. Anger, Jealousy, Worry.

These feelings are called romantic, and they can either save or ruin their lives. Remember social obligations? These emotions are so complicated for trolls, that they have to organize them in a Quadrant system. Even give them a specific role that serves a social purpose too!

Troll romance and its social role

There are two kinds of romantic relationships in Troll society: concupiscent and conciliatory. The concupiscent relationships are for troll fluid production due sexual activity. Conciliatory relationships mean to help them balance their social status and emotions.

As we talked before, the need to seek a concupiscent partner comes with more urgece than typical reproductive instincts. It is a social obligation:

When the IMPERIAL DRONE comes knocking, you had better be able to supply genetic material to each of his FILIAL PAILS. If you have nothing to offer, he will kill you without hesitation.

You either give genetic fluids or die. So trolls better fill those quadrants, and then they can start filling buckets.

The conciliatory relationships, on the other hand, have nothing to do with reproduction. They're explained as “human platonic feelings” to us. Their main function is the mainteniance of the social structure of trolls. The race with violent tendencies we keep calling out.

Most trolls are very agressive. Getting out of crontrol will not help them fullfil their role in society assigned by blood. In the worst case scenario, if they don’t have a proper conciliatory partner, they could fail to have balanced feelings. Their emotions get so out of control, that they could fail in their entire romantic experience. Filling no quadrants, nor buckets. And then dying.

Let us put a very strong example at this point of the analysis: Eridan Ampora. Flirty boy, geeky, wears a cape, highblood. Most of the time he rummaged for a conscupiscent partner, even asked Feferi. His conciliatory relationship failed in consequence, even when it could have worked out. As a result, his emotions went out of control. He did not know wich feelings he had to listen to, and as a result he betrayed his teammates. He kept doing what he had always done, even after Alternia was destroyed: trying hard to not get killed.

The Romance Quadrants

The two kinds of relationships we just talked about can develop in both hate and pity humors. Romantically, they are called black feelings and red feelings, respectively.

A Red Cocupiscent relationship represents the Flushed Quadrant. The romance is called Matespritship, and it is considered the equal of human romance. Altough it isn’t completely.

A Black Concupiscent relationship represents the Caliginous Quadrant. The romance is called Kismesissitude, and most humans fail to understand it. Wich is justifyed. 

A Red Conciliatory relationship represents the Pale Quadrant. The romance is called Moirallegiance, and it is similar to what a human calls ‘soulmate’. 

A Black Conciliatory relationship represents the Ashen Quadrant. The roamnce is called Auspistism, and it is not meant for couples but for trios.

Of course, we are going deep on each of the quadrants! But hold your horses. Before explaining them all, I have to describe troll infidelity and vacilation. At this point you must be baffled at how complicated and confusing is Troll Romance. Do not worry, Trolls hardly get it too! 

Vacilating is going from Flushed to Caliginous romance and the other way around. This happens on relationships were the feelings of both partners are very conflcited, and can’t stand in one quadrant. So they have to jump to the other one and viceversa. Now I must warn you, that infidelities on troll society don’t stay back and are as weird as everything else. They consist in a system of flushed/caliginous infidelities. And are constantly shifting in a romantic quadrangle. What is that? You were thinking of a love triangle? Oh, no. Not at all, my sweet little human worm. Here I present you the Troll Vacillating Quadrangle! You will now observe for some minutes the following image taken from the wiki and meditate about it.

In this chain of infidelity you need at least four trolls. They are going to be vacillating their relationships in a neverending cycle. And for now, that is all that there is to say on the matter. Until Andrew Hussie provides us with one of those Troll literature pieces of rom-com that Karkat likes so much. I bet they are interesting.

Matespritship: The flused quadrant

Troll romance gets very close to Human romance here, but not quite there. You see, think of human romance as a trascendance of Troll Quadrants. Involving many Troll romances at the same time. Wich is more than weird for Trolls, who have enough with having specific feelings for someone.

A Matespritship takes place when two trolls pity each other. Not balancing their feelings, but rather creating feelings on each other! Something they have not felt with other troll, something different. An attachement that makes their body warm and makes them want to stay with their partner forever. And be happy together.

In this relationship, trolls also conceid their partner someone to fill a bucket with. That way neither of them has to die by the metallic hands of an Imperial Drone. Yay.

Notice how they do not share their emotions between them. They only provoke feelings on each other!

Kismesissitude: the caliginous quadrant

What is hate? Is it despising something so much that you don’t want to see it, ever? Or could it be respecting certain aspects of it, but you still despise the object. Wich makes you feel deeply conflicted? Ok, forget the philosophy. Kismesissitudes are not about hate. You don’t want your partner dead, because:

1. This is a concupiscent relationship and you are supposed to fill a bucket with them. 2. That would not be interesting. 3. You actually like some aspects of your partner.

So yeah, this is the most dramatic Troll romance of all. Caliginous relationships go further than a simple rivalry. Besides of the despise that the couple feels, the relationship is something they want. As it's based around mutual respect.

Much like human rivalry, a kismesissitude can be about seeing who is the best. It is about respecting your partner, but their personality is infuriating for you. You actually think they are kind of ok too.

So remember this and never pull it out of your thinkpan: a Kismesissitude is not about killing, hurting or purely hating your partner. You don’t have relationships with someone you hate, that is not healthy. Kismesissitudes are about how interesting the relationship can get. About how great your partner can be, but oh boy, you have to be better. How can you keep pushing each other into having fun with your negative feelings for each other. But not actually letting them on the way on your opinions of each other. You know those cliche couples that don’t like each other but end up together anyways? Yeah, that’s kind of caliginous.

A Caliginous relationship is about frustration. Wich originates in crossed feelings for the partner. That’s a proper kismesissitude. And yes, they can work together, and carry on normal conversations. Just prepare for the kismessis flirts.

I will quote Karkat once more. He explained it all to John, when the human boy was naively talking about how he finds Terezi’s personality frustrating and annoying. Feelings developed while he followed her instructions through fixing the Alpha timeline. An John was starting to realize how he hates beign bossed around without explanation.

JOHN: i still think about the idea of black romance sometimes, and try to imagine how that really works… or “feels”… i don’t know. JOHN: do you understand it? DAVE: yeah ive spent enough time talkin about it where i think i “get it” but DAVE: ive never had cause or any real inclination to put it into practice or anything JOHN: mainly the idea of hating somebody, and translating that into attraction, or some kind of romancey feeling… it feels so alien to me. JOHN: and you’re right, i have a really hard time even hating anyone in the first place! DAVE: word JOHN: i mean, i get ANNOYED by people, sure. DAVE: like who DAVE: me? JOHN: no, not really. JOHN: well, sometimes, but not much. i always tended to exaggerate my grievances with you, for the sake of laughs. DAVE: heheh JOHN: a better example is, more recently, when i was doing my retcon mission… JOHN: i was getting REALLY annoyed with terezi and her mind games. DAVE: yuuup JOHN: it definitely never crossed the line to “hate” though, because we were working together to try and fix a dire situation, and even though she’s weird and insane, she’s otherwise a pretty good friend. JOHN: but all her needling and japes at totally inappropriate times, when there was so much on the line… JOHN: argh, it was SO FRUSTRATING. […] KARKAT: JOHN, ALL YOU’RE DOING HERE IS DESCRIBING THE SUBTLE FEELINGS WHICH PLANT THE SEED FOR HAVING A CALIGINOUS CRUSH ON SOMEONE. JOHN: what?? KARKAT: YOU HEARD ME. KARKAT: YOU ARE NAIVELY ADMITTING TO STRUGGLING WITH SOME BLACK FEELINGS FOR TEREZI. […] JOHN: but i don’t HATE her, and i’m sure i never will! JOHN: i’m just saying i find her, like, somewhat annoying, and REALLY aggravating a lot of the time, but that’s it KARKAT: BUT THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THE FEELING IS! KARKAT: IT DOESN’T START OUT AS FULL BLOWN ANTIPATHY, AND IT RARELY EVEN REACHES SUCH AN EXTREME LEVEL OF HOSTILITY EVEN OVER LONG TERM BLACK RELATIONSHIPS. KARKAT: THERE ARE PEAKS TO IT, BUT OTHERWISE A GENERAL EBB AND FLOW TO THE DARK FEELINGS, JUST LIKE WITH FLUSHED RELATIONSHIPS. JOHN: ok, but… JOHN: i don’t know if i’m expressing myself clearly. JOHN: i felt aggravated by her a lot, but that doesn’t fully describe… JOHN: like, there were those “negative” feelings, but also… JOHN: but… KARKAT: YEAH, THAT’S IT, RIGHT THERE!!! KARKAT: THE “BUT” IS ALWAYS PART OF IT. KARKAT: WHAT YOU’RE *TRYING* TO SAY IS, YOU HAD FRUSTRATED, NEGATIVE EMOTIONS TOWARD HER, BUT THEY DON’T COMPREHENSIVELY ACCOUNT FOR YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARD HER. KARKAT: MEANING, THERE ARE SOME THINGS ABOUT HER YOU ACTUALLY LIKE, BUT THE NEGATIVE FEELINGS MAKE IT HARD FOR YOU TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON THEM, OR EVEN WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM. KARKAT: THAT IS ABSOLUTELY STANDARD. WHAT GOOD WOULD IT BE HAVING A KISMESIS WHO DIDN’T POSSESS QUALITIES YOU ACTUALLY ADMIRED ON SOME LEVEL? KARKAT: THAT WOULD BE BORING, AND IT WOULDN’T EVEN WORK. THERE’D BE NO TENSION, NO PUSH AND PULL IN THE TURBULENT EMOTIONAL LANDSCAPE. THE SUBTLE POSITIVES ADD FUEL TO THE NEGATIVE FEELINGS, OFTEN GIVING THEM A REASON TO EXIST AT ALL. THEY INFLAME THE AGGRAVATING FACTORS, REMINDING YOU DEEP DOWN HOW MUCH YOU WOULD LIKE AND ADMIRE THIS PERSON IF IT WASN’T FOR ALL THEIR INFURIATING FLAWS, AND THE INCREDIBLE SENSE OF FRUSTRATION THAT CAUSES ALONG WITH ALL THE ASSOCIATED HOT-HEADED FEELINGS, THAT’S THE ESSENCE OF BLACK ROMANCE. KARKAT: AND THE POSITIVE QUALITIES YOU SEE DEEP DOWN IN A KISMESIS ALSO SERVE AS THE BASIS FOR RED FEELINGS TOWARD THAT PERSON, ASSUMING THE RELATIONSHIP EVER STARTS TO VACILLATE. KARKAT: IT’S ALL PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, REALLY. JOHN: no… this is messed up! DAVE: i dunno john it all sounds pretty logical to me DAVE: karkat knows his shit when it comes to quadrants JOHN: argh! JOHN: it can’t be true though… JOHN: it feels so fucked up! JOHN: what if you’re right though… erg! no… JOHN: no, no, no, no… KARKAT: THAT’S PART OF IT TOO!! KARKAT: THE “NO NO NO” IS ALL PART OF THE FEELING. THAT’S HOW IT *ALWAYS* GOES. KARKAT: THIS SENSE OF SELF INCRIMINATION WHEN IT’S DAWNING ON YOU THAT YOU HAVE THESE CONFLICTING FEELINGS TOWARD SOMEONE WHO BUGS YOU SO MUCH. KARKAT: OH MY GOD, THIS WHOLE REACTION IS SO FUCKING TEXTBOOK. IT’S HILARIOUS, REALLY. JOHN: it’s fucked up though!!! KARKAT: IT’S SUPPOSED TO FEEL FUCKED UP! JOHN: aw, man. :(

Don’t you just love the drama of feeling fucked up about someone!

Moirallegiance: the pale quadrant

The moirallegience has a very important and specific social purpose. A moirail is some one who complements you. We talked about soulmates, but it is not quite that. Moirallegience is about finding someone who is the opposite of you and accepting them as the self you lack. You respect your partner, because they are capable of things you are not.

For trolls this is really necessary. We said before trolls are violent? Well some more than others, and these ones need a rather pacific troll that can emulate for them that personality trait they don’t have.

Say that I am very impatient, but my pale partner is very good at beign patient, and they help me emulate that patience. This is the complement moirals search, a good balance of emotions.

Auspistism: the ashen quadrant

Imagine a vacilating relationship, or a particulary dangerous kismessissitude. If a troll gets concerned about their well beign and whoever surrounds them and decides to meddle in, then we said they become ashed for the couple.

This is what feeling ashen for someone is. Wanting to help out to keep a balance, for the greater good.

The auspisticer troll begins to mediate between a problematic couple and pacifies the situation. Making it less dangerous. Breaking a chain of infidelity. Helping the couple get to terms with their emotions. An auspistice will have to do a good job or everything could go horribly wrong, though. That is the very specific role for the ashen quadrant in troll society.

Examples from Homestuck

Matespritship:

At some point Karkat ♥ Terezi

Meenah ♥ (Vriska)

We could include Rose ♥Kanaya

Kismessisitude: 

Vriska ♠ Eridan

Terezi ♠ Gamzee

John ♠ Terezi

 Vacilating relationships: 

Tavros/Vriska

Aradia/Equius

Moirallegiance: 

 Nepeta ♦ Equius. It is very evident how both of them discussed their emotions and end up agreeing in something. Whenever they would take a decission they tried to first confirm it with their partner. They both provided a nice emulation of feelings on each other. And it was good. 

Karkat ♦ Gamzee. Karkat has always been a concerned troll, while Gamzee is a carefree kid. When Gamzee did not get something Karkat would explain and make him care a little bit more. When Karkat was getting over the top with anger Gamzee would calm him down, reassuring him that it was all ok and he had nothing to worry about. It was also good, but Gamzee ended up neglecting the relationship. 

There is Vriska ♦ Terezi? They did not had the best comunication, honestly Vriska neglected a lot her talks with Terezi about feelings. I do not really want to got there.

 Auspistism: 

Actually, there is no good example of a meddly in the comic. Maybe Spades Slick ♣ Doc Scratch ♣ Sn8wman

There was almost Eridan ♣ Kanaya ♣ Vriska but Vriska didn’t want to.

And I think Eridan ♣ Terezi ♣ Sollux but Sollux didn’t want to.

Examples out of the comic 

 Matespritships? You could take whatever couple you would like, honestly. They are too similar. 

 You know Dexter and Mandark? Just pay attention for a second to these kids behaviour. They did everything to get the other one frustrated, but when the situation called it they even worked together. They had so much fun. That is caliginous flirt and there is no other way around it. 

 Ok, you ready for some Beastboy ♦ Raven? Because I am so invested. They have shared so many feelings and they do have emulated emotions on each other! I just love it when they talk about their differences and agree that they are both good in their own ways. It’s so cute.

Want to know how Steven went all  ♣ for Pearl and Amethyst in order for them to fuse? And even after that they kept having these tensions but workaround them so graciously. All thanks to Steven being a silly and cute auspisticer.

 If you need even more examples, please refer to this post. See how well these three teenagers will explain you how Troll romance works. Ah, yes. It was all canon. 

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 Alrigth, I believe that will be all. I hope this helped you somehow! Thanks for reading!

valentine fandom ask meme: homestuck for all the odd ones and rvb for all the even ones

oH GOD okay let's see how this goes***Spoiler Alert*** by the way1. Your favourite non-canon ship? I don't particularly have one, though to be clear Homestuck has a hell of a lot of ships. I like pairing people up with Sollux tho, if only because I support Sollux getting lots of love.2. Is there a ship you didn’t like at first but ultimately started shipping? Tuckington and Lolix. both are things my friend who got me into RvB ships hardcore, but when I first encountered all the relevant characters I couldn't see them in the pairs. Tuckington I saw once they actually started interacting, in S11 or so; Lolix, after having seen their episodes in S14, although I shipped them as exes before then - like, I watched them and agreed that they'd had something but it fell apart before we met them.3. What is the rarest rare pair (that you ship)? I'm not really a rarepair kind of child but I do like Sollux/Dirk and Sollux/John, because programming and hands, respectively4. Name a popular ship you don’t get the appeal of. probably Chex I just really strongly believe that moving on is the best damn idea Church ever had5. What is your most fluffy + happy ship? fun question, because a lot of my ships could be fluffy or angst depending on what you look at. short answer: Davekat.6. What is your most angsty ship? FELIX/TUCKER OKAY HOLY SHIT MAJOR SPOILER ALERT FOR THE CHORUS TRILOGY BUT just picture when they're in Armonia and Wash is presumed dead and Tucker is having to come to terms with losing someone he hadn't realized he loved so much and also coming to terms with his love AND HIS SEXUALITY on top of that and Felix just slides on in because he's a slimy bastard who isn't above getting off on other people's emotional pain and/or just generally being an emotional sadist but also tactically brilliant and fucking Tucker while he's broken and I currently have an in-progress fic that is literally this and entitled "Felix Tucker emotional abuse" on my computer (ABUSE in my binder)7. A non-canon ship that should be canon? again, Homestuck has quite a romantically promiscuous canon. I think most of my really serious ships are canon??? but it's also been a while since I last acquainted myself with HS so I'm not sure. I do like Sollux/Karkat in basically any quadrant tho and I don't think they canonically did any quadrant stuffz or at least not all of them8. Your oldest ship; the one you’ve shipped for the longest time? Grimmons. still ship it. GRIF LITERALLY CONTAINS PARTS OF SIMMONS IF THATS NOT POTENTIAL FOR A ROMANTIC CRISIS FIC THEN IDK WHAT IS9. What ship represents the kind of relationship you’d love to have? Davekat as presented in canon, all soft squishy feels under a shell of crunchy banter and sarcasm; that, or Rosemary, which I read this fic once that mentioned them being a universal constant? like, there wasn't a single timeline where they didn't get together, and that makes me really happy. I also really like how Nepeta and Equius are complete polar opposites and both really fucking weird but don't care10. Is there a ship that makes your skin crawl? Churboose the way most people portray it. Caboose has the mental capacity of a child; I don't know if it's canon or not, but I am firmly of the belief that he is not entirely capable of distinguishing between romantic and platonic love, if at all, and sex isn't even a thing that he acknowledges. I can get behind the idea of Church accidentally and bizarrely and inexplicably falling in love with Caboose in a purely emotional sense, and Caboose loves everyone on all the teams in his own way, except the ones his family (because that's what they are, his family) genuinely hates, and those he does his best to fuck up something fierce. but don't pretend that Caboose and Church having sex would be anything but creepy as fuck and completely out of character. Also, the Director/Tex, because vicarious relationships, and Felix/Tucker but that one's a good skin-crawly one if done right (which it will be when I do it).11. What is a character you can only imagine in one particular ship? Calliope I can only see with Roxy, but damn do I ever see it.12. What is your favourite canon ship? if we're going with the cutthroat definition of canon, there aren't any, so going with the practical definition, Grimmons, because I'm not saying the secretly-married jokes are true, but I am saying they're extremely well-founded, even if one or both of them needs to pull his head out of his ass and notice.13. Name a ship that deserved more content. I feel like Vriska/Terezi, especially Game Over timeline Vriska/Terezi, deserved more, but I definitely needed more Terezi/John, because John learning firsthand about kismesissitude is a beautiful image.14. Is there a ship you feel gets undeserved hate in fandom? no??? the RvB fandom tends to agree that most of the characters have banged or at least that they could, so I haven't actually seen, like, *any* ship hate.15. What is the first ship you had? Davekat, which I shipped before getting into Homestuck, for which I blame the friend who got me into it in the first place.16. Is there a ship that made you realise something about yourself? uhm. all of them made me realize that I have a thing for temporarily inflicting emotional pain on characters, if that counts???17. Is there a type of ship you always go for? this goes for everything: banter. banter banter banter. example ships outside of these two specified fandoms: Bond/Q (Craig era), Romeo/Mercutio (yes, Romeo and Juliet), Rosencrantz/Guildenstern (Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, specifically), Kate/Petruchio (yes I'm Shakespeare trash get over it), Skye/Jeffrey (The Penderwicks), wow I ship a lot of things I hadn't realized I shipped.18. Is there a ship the writers have ruined for you? no. unless you count the emotional abuse that is Ohio shooting Sherry and thereby ruining any chance they could've had, which nearly made me cry19. Is there a ship the fandom has ruined for you? not unless you count that tumblr post about Gamzee's relationships all being meticulously calculated and executed to do the most damage ruining my ability to enjoy pale Gamkar due to my new perception of Gamzee20. Have you ever created fan created content for a ship? hell ye. I have an AO3 but refuse to attach it to my tumblr. currently I've only got one RvB work and it's a really minor ship of mine, but I've got like four Tuckington, one Lolix, and that Felix/Tucker emotional abuse on the go.21. Favourite thing you’ve ever created for a ship? see previous comment re: not sharing my AO3, but my Snowman/Spades Slick WIP makes me really happy and I've got some damn good Davekat22. Is there a ship you’ll never admit you have? nope. not for anything I don't think. I'll even admit to shipping Annie and Teddy from the Magic Tree House books, and Dink and Ruth Rose from the A-Z Mysteries. I have always been a trashbaby and never given half a fuck.23. Have you ever started shipping a ship because of the fans? see previous comments re: Davekat. there was at least one more but I can't remember right now.24. What is one scene you want to see happen for all your ships? meeting in a bar, for the first time or after a long time or whatever. there are so many damn ways a bar meeting could go that it satisfies so many of my ships, and in RvB, all of them.25. Is there a ship you wish you didn’t know existed? all forms of Stridercest, particularly since I can actually tolerate Dirk/Dave. also Kurloz/Mituna because Kurloz is a confirmed creepy abusive fucker and Mituna is my precious pandamaged child26. Name a ship that ended like you wanted it to. Church/Tex, actually, if you disregard my temporary disappointment at Tex being female. the end of S9 gave them the best possible ending.27. Name a ship that deserved better in the end. Dirk/Jake but I can't complain too much because at least the abusive relationship ended28. Is there a character you have several ships for? Tucker's a slut, so yeah, but also I'm a big believer in breakups being a good and healthy part of life, so I ship relationships in the past tense. example: I support York and Carolina being together, and also thoroughly support Kimball finally getting Carolina to open up and fall in love again.29. What is the ship you ignore 98% of canon for? that's not really a thing I do, so. there isn't one.30. Is there a ship you like but you dislike the fandom? if we mean the fandom stuff for the particular ship, yeah, Churboose and Lolix in particular but I generally hate when people miss the point of what makes characters themselves in order to just make fanfic or whatever of their ship. in more general terms, I read the Maze Runner a while ago in order to be able to watch the movie for the sake of Thomas Brodie-Sangster (which I decided not to actually do because it's a really bad book), and I fucking hated the book, it's a really fucking shitty book, but Newt and Thomas all the fucking way man. (I think it was the nickname that really got me; nobody else calls him Tommy, and Newt doesn't give anyone else a nickname as far as I can remember, and also I'm really pissed that they cut the kiss scene from the movie because I might've suffered through it just for that)HOOOOOO BOY thank you anon that was way more fun than sleeping. also I'm having so much trouble figuring out who you are because most of my people I know are in one fandom or the other but not both, and the other people I can think of I can't imagine sending me an ask like this. aaaaa it's a mystery thank you for the excuse to ramble