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januarycarnation · 2 years
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LEIIIIFFFF MY BABY
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ilovetvtoons · 2 years
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Family Resemblance.
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[Hop Pop is walking with his grandkids and great grandkids around the Plantar farm]
Hop Pop: Look around kids, this is the farmland of our ancestors. Many generations of Plantars have lived and died on this farm, just as many more will do so too.
Marzipan: Oh, that reminds me! I read in the Plantar family history that there was a time a few centuries back starting with Dungus Plantar that the bodies of recently deceased family members would be used as the next crop’s fertilizer as a way to make them one with the land and enrich the soil with unique nutrients. It stopped after a famine tho’. Still, you look like you’d make good fertilizer when you pass Great Hop Pop, have you considered being one with the land and feeding your family on the vegetables grown from you?
Hop Pop:…………………
Hop Pop whispering to Sprout and Sprig: Make sure Marzi doesn’t get anywhere close to my body when I die…
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Amphibia Thoughts: Guys...
Guys, a thought occurred to me.
Okay, so I was curious about Hop-Pop's love life (HopxSilvia for life) and I wondered: What happened to Hop-Pop's first wife?
Because, there was no mention of a significant other other than his infatuation over Silvia Sundew. So, how did Hop-Pop got Sprig and Polly? He had to have had a kid (likely Sprig and Polly's dad)
Then, I learned that Hop-Pop was never married. So, one could think it was a fling. But! We do learn that there are honorary Plantars in the family: The newt that resembled Anne and Anne herself.
A reddit did bring up that Sprig and Polly could be honorary Plantars. However, I don't think this because they (especially Sprig) bared strong resemblances to Leif, the Plantar ancestor.
What if Hop-Pop, Hopediah Plantar, was an honorary Plantar?
What if he was accepted into the family and learned their ways and traditions, adopting them as if they were his own? What if he raised the Plantar son (after the child lost his parents) as if his own (perhaps those parents' final wish to Hop-Pop) and that son grows up to find a wife and have two children?
What if, after the parents' demise to the herons, Hop-Pop raised these kids, his grandchildren in the grand scheme of things, to keep the Plantar family alive?
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robbyrobinson · 2 years
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Complete Monster EP: King Aldrich (SPOILERS)
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What is the Work?
Amphibia is a 2019 animated series about a teenage girl named Anne Boonchuy. On her 13th birthday, her best friends, Sasha Waybright, and Marcy Wu convince her to steal a music box from an antique store. However, when she does, she opens the box, revealed to be a multiversal device known as the Calamity Box, she and her friends are whisked into the world of Amphibia, a lily-pad shaped island comprised of talking frogs, toads, and newts.
Anne ends up residing in Wartwood with the farmer family the Plantars; Sasha becomes the second-in-command to the toad Captain Grime, and Marcy ends up working under the king of Amphibia in Newtopia.
The series starts off pretty episodic and comedic...at least until the first season finale, and then season 2's "True Colors" really brought the show to its more dramatic shift.
Who is he?
King Aldrich is the former king of Amphibia, and the father of the current ruler King Andrias. First introduced in "The Core & The King," he metaphorically stands between his son and his friends Barrel and Leif (the ancestor of the Plantar family) annoyed that he was still attached to his "childhood friends" and introduces him to the real ruler of Newtopia, the Core, a mechanical monstrosity housing the consciousness of all the previous death-fearing monarchs. He tells his son that his death was imminent and tasks him with carrying out a mission?
The mission? Well, more or less wiping out humanity during the Middle Ages revealing to his son that they conquered other universes so to harvest their resources to continue their way of life. Aldrich can care less about this reasoning that newts were superior to all other races. He then gives his son the key to the Calamity Box.
Unfortunately for him, Leif, the gardener for the kingdom, accidentally touches the Calamity Box and sees a vision of Amphibia being destroyed should they continue to abuse the stones powering the Calamity Box.
When Aldrich scoffs at her concerns, she steals the Calamity Box in haste and hides it on Earth. Enraged with his son, Aldrich informs him that the Core revealed that the box would return a thousand years later. Until then, Newtopia had to shed its "greatness" till that day.
Andrias becomes king and is saddled with the heavy pressure of invading the Earth while his father joins the combined conscious of the Core. From there, he would encourage his son further down a dark path.
What has he done?
Aldrich, alongside the other minds, at first wanted Andrias to kill Marcy the moment she arrived in Newtopia when they sensed she had the power of the greenstone (representing wit). However, he relents when Andrias states that rather than committing needless bloodshed, he could instead befriend Marcy and when she brings her friends, they could then trick them into recharging the stones at the three temples.
After the events of the Season 2 finale, Andrias places an unconscious Marcy into a healing tube since she was still essential to his and the Core's plans. Said plans are unveiled in "Olivia & Yunan." After failing to rescue Marcy, she is strapped to a chair and learns that the Core had elected her as their host...cue her screaming in agony as the helmet is inserted on her head. The Core, now nicknamed "Darcy," now actively takes part in the invasion whilst continuing to gaslight and corrupt Andrias.
Aldrich himself would resurface a few times just to ensure that his son continued the operation until "All In."
The Core, having trapped Marcy in a little room in her mind, creates a false world to keep her occupied. Aldrich himself appears as a guide welcoming Marcy as being the first human to join their ranks. Obviously, Marcy was starting to get lonely, so replicas of Anne and Sasha are created. But the deception melts away with her realization that while she disliked the fact that her friends did not share her interests, it was equally bad of her to force them.
Enraged, Aldrich leaves Marcy in a void of darkness so she can be absorbed.
When Andrias loses the will to prolong the invasion upon being reminded of how much his former friend loved him, Aldrich painfully controls his son reminding him that the Core was all that he ever needed. Thanks to their own misjudgment, Sasha successfully slices the Core's connection with Marcy putting an end to Darcy.
The battle for Earth ends with Anne saving the world and Olivia announces that Darcy and Andrias had been defeated and they all loved happily ever after...except not really.
The Core, being a sore loser, hijacks the Moon, it turning out to be a machine made by Andrias' ancestors long ago. The Core induces the "moon" to crash into Amphibia, which would kill it alongside all living things on Amphibia, but it does not care as long as it deprives the heroes of their absolute victory. Anne and her three friends activate their calamity powers to combat the Core.
The Core communicates with Andrias through his crown once more berating him for his insolence. It seems at first Andrias orders the Frobo bots to stop the girls, but, to seal his turning over a new leaf, the robots instead assist the girls in holding the moon off long enough.
The Core, but in particular Aldrich, panics and asks Andrias why he was risking his chance to become immortal. Andrias retorts he was doing what he should have done thousands of years ago and crushes his crown finally freeing himself from the Core's control.
Anne is forced to commit a heroic sacrifice that destroys the Core once and for all.
Hasta la vista, Aldrich! Hope you enjoy your one-way trip!
Freudian Excuse? Mitigating factors?
No. He's just some genocidal ruler who believes that he has the right to wipe out other races and conquer universes because of his superiority complex. Unlike the other rulers who make up the Core, Aldrich is the most vocal of them to the point where he is their representative after serving them for years. Heck, it can even be said that the reason why Andrias was so devoted to the Core was that his father played a crucial role in it as ultimately, Andrias wanted to make his father proud. And on the subject of that...
Aldrich is not winning father of the year either. He cares not one bit about his son, gaslighting him as a means of forcing him to end his friendship with Leif and Barrel since they were non-newts. Even when Andrias goes the extra mile to try to win his favor? He musters up a backhanded "I'm almost proud of you" response.
He also has no issue harming his son either when he is notified that his son was losing the will to fight Anne with him dangling his veiled threat that Andrias would never get to join him and his forefathers if he does not do as he is told.
He served the Core, but largely because he, like the other rulers, was terrified of death and uploaded his consciousness as an attempt to stave it off only to become panicked when he sensed his end was near.
Heinous standard
The Leviathan family had used the Calamity Box for thousands of years to invade other worlds and capture potential test subjects if they didn't just wipe them all out without batting an eye. Not to mention experimenting on different races to figure out ways to become immortal.
But the Core as a whole, while vile, has questionable legitimacy as a character as it is literally a Mind Hive composed of at least thirteen of Amphibia's "greatest" minds hence it referring to itself as "We" except for when it is directly speaking to one of its members. As such, groups do not qualify with them receiving no screen-time unlike Aldrich who've we physically seen prior to him being assimilated.
King Andrias is obviously heinous what with him wanting to take over other worlds and nearly stomping on a baby frog or stabbing Marcy in the back and making Amphibia into a wasteland as he harnessed resources to build up his robot army. However, Andrias is actually more complex than that: he clearly hates what he is doing and, despite his attempts to deny it, he truly loved his old friends and cared about Marcy even saving her when the Core wanted to kill her when they first met. At the end of the day, Andrias was a tragic villain who desperately wanted to win his father's approval by atoning for his "mistakes" but was instead a victim of gaslighting and corruption by the Core who continually encouraged his worse actions. But he truly felt that he was beyond redemption using the opportunity to allow Anne to tear him down once Sasha severs the connection.
So, writing this, it was kind of hard because, while Aldrich was especially vile, I thought the issue that he was a part of the Core would muddy which actions would strictly be on Aldrich, but Aldrich is, again, the one ruler that we got to see and known on a personal level and with him being the one to "welcome" Marcy, he pretty much serves as the only member of the Core that we see demonstrate their nastiness. Keep in mind that Andrias blindly serves it because Aldrich is a part of the hive which is why I attributed Andrias being brainwashed on his father's feet.
That, and his gaslighting of his son is also a particularly nasty niche that he does. Of course, he also actively takes part in trying to destroy Amphibia in a Rage Quit once the Core was beaten the first time.
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The family shrub and genealogy in Amphibia
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Hello everyone! In my quest to watch more animations, apart from two of my favorite shows, Futurama and Carmen Sandiego, I'd like to talk about one of my favorite shows, Amphibia, and family history themes in the show.
Reprinted from my Genealogy in Popular Culture WordPress blog. Originally published on July 29, 2020.
In the episode "Family Shrub," Sprig and Polly think their family history is boring. However, their minds are changed when they "uncover family secrets buried deep under their very own home." Oh my! At the beginning of the episode, when Sprig is gluing on new pictures onto the tree, Anne says: "back home, we'd call this a family tree." Hop Pop laughs, saying that is "why everyone in your world is crazy." Anyway, he is reading from a book of family history at the beginning of the episode, which has tabs in it, noting specific sections.
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I love that Hop Pop gets excited from reading the family history (which he probably put together) while the other characters are bored by it. I love the parts where he says that one of the ancestors was a "king" with everyone excited, then adding "king of single-tiered irrigation systems." This makes it one of the most hilarious parts of this whole episode, seriously.
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After this, Polly declares that "our ancestors were boring" and Sprig declares, in an annoyed tone, "were they all just farm frogs?" This is equivalent to my statement where I said that my ancestors were "dang farmers" from Massachusetts. Sprig wants to know about the artists, the poets, and the dreamers. Honestly, this episode is making fun of people who boast about their family histories. I mean, it could be. Hop Pop makes a good point that could apply to anyone who grumbles about their ancestors:
"Just farm frogs? Kids, the point of the shrub is to give you an appreciation for your past. The Plantar family has layers. You just have to know where to look."
Anne accepts that and begins asking about ancestors on the tree. Hop Pop explains how each of the ancestors is unique, although none of his kids, or Anne, are impressed by his explanation. Anne then notes how she won't find any ancestors on the shrub (which is true). Pop then says that you can be related to another person in a family, but not by blood. That's because she is part of the family grouping, although she can't claim any of their descendants as her own, as she isn't "indirectly" or "directly" descended from any of them.
Pop continues to be dedicated to finishing the shrub, their version of a family tree and goes to the store to get glue. After he leaves, Polly says "you're lucky you're an outsider, Anne, because our family history is lame." Sprig then adds that there wasn't anyone weird, different, or fun. He even looks at a painting, obviously looking like the American Gothic painting, and it opens a secret passageway, exciting them all.
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They find a dusty room, with weird scientific samples, in what could be described as a dungeon. They find documents showing the place belonged to their great uncle, Skip Plantar, who turns out to be a farmer and a brilliant scientist at the same time. He experimented with all kinds of things. Sprig wants to know more, so he pulls a lever.
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What comes out is…a pumpkin abomination. Sprig saves them both by leaving this creature back into its cage. Then, they fall through the floor and find another room. In this place, it is revealed that their ancestor was not just a turnip farmer but a "turned up warrior" (Polly says this while flexing her muscles)
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Then, they find her diary, where she recounts how she was in a "lot of battles." Sprig, being impulsive, pulls another lever, almost killing them both. They move on through, finding more hidden chambers. In one instance, a diary reveals someone who traveled around, collecting a lot of "cool stuff," and settled with the Plantars. Anne has a revelation: "I had your family history all wrong, guys. The Plantars weren't just farmers." Sprig adds that they were "twisted" while Polly says they were "pretty cool." They get back to the living room, beat up, and exhausted from their journey. They tell Pop about the secret areas with family heirlooms, with Polly saying she is "proud to be a Plantar." This excites him a lot. Polly adds that their ancestors were the "most amazing scientist-warrior farmers ever!" Sprig says that "everyone needs to know about it."
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Pop says he wants to see the rooms below the house as well. Anne tries to caution him, but their caution is ignored. So, he runs down into the dungeon on an adventure, with Anne, Polly, and Sprig going to help him (and Wally who is glued to his back, one of the episode's side stories). The episode ends there. I have to say that this is one of the best depictions of family history I've seen in a while.
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What are your head cannons for the Plantars? Also, what are some of your critiques about s3?
Polly is a polyglot (lol) and knows 12 languages by the time she's fifteen. Her first language is English (or whatever it's called on Amphibia), her second is Thai (which she writes her most secret mechanical projects in because she knows she's the only one on Amphibia who can read it), and she's actually pretty fluent in Ancient Newtopian.
If the worlds aren't separated, she elects to go to school on Earth and eventually gets into MIT. Her family is incredibly proud of her :)
She can skateboard.
If it's the canon 'verse, someone eventually realizes that Polly actually has the same hair shape as Anne and tells her. It makes her pretty emotional because she really misses her big sister but knowing she somehow retained a bit of her? Makes her feel a bit better.
She starts wearing a bit more green as she gets older. I like to think that Sprig and Polly are a more healthy version of Strength and Wit for Anne? I'd say Sprig's pretty emotionally strong and Polly's fucking smart. Also, Sprig's green and pink. Polly wears more green as a symbol that she's associated with being really fucking smart.
She also stole one of Anne's sweaters from out of her bag right before she had to leave forever to have as a reminder. It's Polly's favorite item of hers and she wears it whenever she needs that comfort.
She doesn't stop trying to make a new portal so they can get back to Earth. An idea I have is that Sprig saved the leaves Anne's first body dissolved into, and they're absolutely saturated in Calamity Energy, enough so that Polly's able to use them to power a new portal. She also cannibalizes several frogbots for the Calamity Energy they've got in them.
Polly turns the old tunnels under the house into her workshop, with the central area being the New Wartwood town square after the townspeople move back out of it. It's already there and set up, so she takes advantage of it. Plus, she can raid her ancestors' old stuff for weapons and tech and stuff.
Sprig's not a genius like Polly, but he's pretty damn smart himself. I mean, he's ten in the majority of the series and he's quite smart for a ten-year-old.
He gets quite adept at reading people and can really tell when not to trust someone, or when someone is trustworthy, or when someone is hiding something. Combined with Anne's charisma and ability to charm most people, they're a deadly duo.
It's canon, but he's a really good artist (look at the doodles he has in the basement during the Amphibia timeskip in The Hardest Thing! I bet he drew those and they're so good!) and he illustrates the book he writes about all the adventures he had with Anne. He's eventually convinced to get it published, and it becomes a bestseller in Amphibia.
If he could still go to Earth, Marcy would ask him to do a guest comic for her webcomic. Her fans love it :D
Related: he'd totally make a Tumblr for himself. Yes, people know he's a frog. (An ask: wait are you really a talking frog / Sprig: yeah?? why would I lie about that)
He takes over the farm after Hop Pop retires. The avocados make it so they don't have to worry about money anymore, and Sprig's learned a lot since trying to take over the farm in s1. Polly handles the technical side of things, and Sprig does the business side of it. He stops doing as much adventuring because of this, but he doesn't really mind.
The bandana he wears in the timeskip is one he stole from Anne.
After Anne left for good, Sprig spent the majority of the time down in her old basement room as a way to feel close to her. He eventually makes it his new room because he just feels more comfortable down there. It's not lost on him that it's the room he was in when his parents were killed, but it's now just... Anne's room, and that brings him comfort.
Edited to add: my headcanon is that Sprig is transmasc and biromantic asexual, and Polly is agender aroace and usually goes by she/her pronouns but doesn’t really care. She honestly doesn’t give a fuck about gender.
The Plantars are a lot more respected after the events of the series. Not only are they Anne's family, they're just genuinely good people and Wartwood starts to recognize that. It also comes out that the first Plantar was a close friend of the king's back a thousand years ago, so that's also something.
Those avocados are insanely popular.
A bit sadder: after Anne leaves, Hop Pop keeps accidentally making food for four, instead of three. He's just so used to Anne being there that he'll make more food than is needed for the three of them, but it gets packaged up as leftovers once he realizes. It's still sad, though. He misses his eldest grandchild something fierce.
He starts writing plays, and they're really good! They actually draw in wide acclaim, and even get put on in Newtopia.
And I think that's it for now!
(See this previous ask for the second part of this ask)
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prince-toffee · 2 years
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So now that the show is over, I want to talk about some of the theories I had while I watched the show, mostly during season 2, as well as just cool ideas I thought of because... why not.
The main one I had come to me during the temple episodes. I wondered; ‘Who built the temples?’ I noticed that each temple is tailored to each of the girls, to challenge them, to teach each of them a lesson. The amphibian scripture almost... knows them, knows what they need to hear. Almost as if... it was them that wrote it.
Yep, that’s right it’s a time traveling theory. Picture this; In the first timeline The Calamity Trio lose. Andrias and The Eye Beast (who’s name we didn’t even know yet) win, and undo The Prophecy (whatever it is), Amphibia and Earth are both ruled with an iron fist, you know existence is plunged into eternal darkness, you know standard villain stuff. The girls are now far older, and somehow manage to time travel back in time, but they over blow it and are thousands of years in the past and construct the temples and etch into them lessons that their future younger selves will hopefully learn in time and not suffer the same fate. And ultimately, they do.
Another theory of mine was that Anne, Sasha, and Marcy weren’t the first humans to be transported to Amphibia. There was an original trio of humans which harnessed the power of the gems. They are brought to Amphibia by the same prophecy, harnessing their colour powers within the temples constructed by Anne, Sasha, and Marcy respectively (the inverse of the Sashannarcy getting their powers drained). The OG Trio unite against The Eye Beast (let’s call them The Night, because that’s what everyone theorised their name was).
The Night is an ancient cosmic evil, a darkness from the void of space, there are many stories of where it came from, how it came to be; Some say it’s one of the gems; The Strength, The Heart, The Wit, and The Soul. Some say it’s the void of nothingness the gems came from, it believes that nothingness is its domain, and when the gems came into being, they became something, they filled space that wasn’t there’s. Some say it is a being from a different universe, an unnatural growth that has no place in our world. Some say it is a collection of Amphibia’s greatest minds enshrined within a supercomputer. Who’s to say. No one knows.
The OG Trio defeat The Night, or so they think. In fact, a small piece of it survived and came into possession of a family of scientists, the Leviathans. They study it for further purposes.
The years roll on the Trio grows closer to each other and enjoy the peace. I think it’d be cool if the Trio was pulled from different times, from times of great distress. They decide to stay in Amphibia rather than struggle in their own times (I think there’d be some really interesting interplay between people from different times). Anyway, Pink and Green convince Blue to help them reopen the portal to their times and decide to bring their people to Amphibia, to give them a new peaceful home.
The Leviathans believe that the humans are beginning to take over and rally their amphibian followers to fight back against the incoming humans. A war breaks out between amphibians and humans, which leads to The Trio killing Andrias’ parents while he’s still a child as he watches on. The Night convinces Andrias into hating humans and the gems. It turns out that The Night had been manipulating the Leviathans and Green and Pink into war. And turns the Trio against each other. Ultimately, Blue is the last one standing, having to kill their friends, and they just choose to waste away alone.
Before we knew who they were I predicted that Andrias’ friends were Barrel (which came true) and a Plantar ancestor (also true) who was the woman responsibly for creating the Frobo robots, by studying Marcy’s ancient technology of the temples The Calamity Trio created.
I also thought the gems were going to imbue the girls with different powers. Like The Strength gem can grant powers over gravity, and super strength. The Wit gem can grant super intelligence, the ability to read minds, and control others’ minds. The Heart gem can grant the ability to heal, and undo corruption, bring life to plants and other lifeforms, it is said that the wielder’s words can melt the coldest heart.
Since Sasha got her own weapon in the form of Barrel’s Hammer, it almost seemed like the Hammer reacted to her, the writing etched into it glows pink once Sasha lifts it while her pupils glow pink. I thought it’d be cool if Anne and Marcy got their own weapons. I theorised that Valeriana’s Shepard’s Crook was going to be inherited by Anne. And maybe like a Bow and Quiver for Marcy because of that stone mural of the girls fighting the huge frog.
Also, for season three I theorised that after Marcy was taken over by The Core, they and Andrias would have a really tough time trying to hunt down Sasha and the Wartwood resistance, so Darcy tips off Sasha’s spies with false info. Sasha organises a rescue mission to save the imprisoned Marcy, not knowing it’s Darcy. Marcy doesn’t know either, there are large chunks of memory missing for her and has no idea about The Core. All she can remember are eyes, and a voice, that she thinks she can sometimes hear it in her head. All she knows is that it hates them. Marcy and Sasha get closer, they bond over their love of Anne and the guilt they feel for betraying Anne. (Maybe a kiss or two). Once Darcy finds out where they are they enact her plans. I think it’d be fun if The Core struggled so much to find the rebellion because Wartwood is such a small and insignificant village so that it doesn’t even show up on the maps. The Newtopian army attacks, decimates Wartwood, Sasha faces off against Darcy and loses, but Darcy can’t bring herself to kill Sasha, almost as if Marcy is still in there, so instead Darcy just takes her prisoner.
Okay, so I don’t know how to end this so........ poopie!
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mysteriesofmarcy · 2 years
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Maystery Monday #2: Birthdays!
Come on, you know this had to be this week's topic!
OK, that's a joke.
But I'm sure you can all figure out what it's actually going to be.
Let's get started with some thoughts on the last episode and the next one.
"The Hardest Thing" is obviously saying goodbye.
Wow. Just wow. I did not expect Andrias's invasion of earth to end within the scope of this episode. It feels like the series is over now and the next episode is just a post-finale kind of thing. It's... a little disappointing, to say the least. Then again, it could just be that this episode was the Boss Level, and then the next episode is when the Boss comes back but this time he's twice as strong.
If Marcy is to fulfill the theory that myself and others have made, that she will dismantle The Core from within, she will have to re-enter it. And this time, I have a feeling that the inhabitants won't be too friendly towards her.
My theory that Sasha would beat up The Core physically seems to have come true. Not sure how I feel about it being this early.
Anne seems to be the glue holding a lot of characters together: the Calamity Trio, the Plantar and Boonchuy families, the Amphibia Resistance, the Earth Resistance, two freaking worlds for crying out loud! It's time she caught a break.
Aren't Grime and Sasha severely injured? Shouldn't they be dead? How did they both survive being sliced by The Core and then get up and walk away?
Now, let's move on to what I think will happen post-finale:
The Wartwood Resistance will obviously disband once the battle is over. I think the first thing they do is rebuild the town, then the next thing is rebuild the rest of Amphibia. Then, with the total upheaval of power in that world, some frogs will naturally rise to the top. Some will resume their old lives as farmers, shopkeepers, truckers, etc.
I think the new Amphibia will look something like the ancient Amphibia; i.e. newts, toads and frogs living together and being all friendly-like, with their species having nothing to do with their treatment or attitudes towards each other, as well as much more technologically advanced. But unlike the ancient Amphibia, instead of conquering other worlds and using up their resources, they will work together and be allied with other worlds, especially earth.
Earth will also likely go back to being relatively normal, but with a few major changes. For example, it will now have proof that other dimensions exist. Likely it will have regular contact with Amphibia. Possibly there will be other worlds, but possibly Andrias's ancestors destroyed them all.
Spranne will likely develop into a long-distance relationship. After Amphibia is transformed into a more modern society (likely with help from Andrias, Marcy, Polly, Terri, Ally, and/or Jess), they will have computers and internet. Of course, even if this doesn't happen, Marcy will still be able to keep up with her friends in the same way!
OR, they could pull a Star vs and just merge the two worlds. That would be lame though.
See you soon for more coverage of Finale Week! I'm working on a new theory about the moon, and I'll see about watching that trailer I haven't seen yet. I haven't watched a trailer for a new cartoon episode in years. In fact, I haven't seen any Amphibia episodes live on TV. Hopefully that changes, but I'm not counting on it because I have other things to do that day.
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starsfic · 2 years
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You know those bits where someone accuse the opponent of being an embarrassment to their ancestors? Just imagine some saying that to the plantars.
Sprig: my family has a death gauntlet dedicated to our insanity the only thing I’d be ashamed of is not being crazy enough
That's not the only thing on the list.
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hey happi! can i get a 😶 for any/all of the plantars? :D
Lemon my lovebird! Hello hello hope you're having a good day 💛💛💛 And for you? Always <3
Hop Pop: After the aftershocks of the war die down, Hop Pop revisits the library and the tunnels of New Wartwood to see if he can drudge up any more details on Leif. As a man who prides himself on tradition and history, he thinks it's an awful shame that such an important ancestor is largely missing from the family records. I think the last time he visits the library, he drops off a book emblazoned with the loopy, cursive initials "L.P." In it, he carefully wrote down all of the details about Leif that he could find, making sure that other generations will remember her name and legacy.
Sprig: So, over the timeskip, Sprig has started to really hone his art skills. It's my personal headcanon that he becomes something of a famous cartographer, drawing detailed maps of unexplored places and perhaps even new continents! Kind of like Hiccup from HTTYD in my mind - very good at maps and diagrams but never losing that adventurous spirit.
Polly: With Polly's knowledge of Earth robotics, I think it would be cool if she designed moving prosthetics for people like Grime or Stumpy. As much as she condones violence, she's all about using that sweet, sweet tech to help ease people's pain and do some of the heavy lifting for them! I could definitely see her opening up a shop by the farm a la Winry from FMA.
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finalfroevo · 2 years
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One last comic before canon hits me with a steel chair. Headcanon from here
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so if the plantar family has a bit of king andreas that means the pantar family is most likely successors to the throne of newtopia
The current Plantars don’t have any Andrias in them….it was their ancestor that did, ;]P
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dashintrash · 3 years
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Thinking about it, man would it be bizarrely but funnily fitting if the two following characters got a moment of being foils to the other later:
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With a series whose most prominent theme is change and moving forwards, it would be fitting for the main antagonist of Amphibia to be an ironic embodiment of doing whatever it takes to find new ways of prolonging the past -and probably including outdated or horrific traditions/views- far beyond any reasonable due date. Or in essence, the Core’s whole premise reeks of the themes of stagnation and regression.
And where Andrias fits quite well as a compliment to the Core’s brand of antagonism with his unwillingness to let go of his friends’ ‘betrayals’ and his desire to bring back his ancestors’ interdimensional empire, Hop Pop strangely offers the strongest thematic counterpoint to the Core out of the entire cast with the growth that he’s had over the series.
I mean, he started out as THE most concerned character about adhering to tradition and the old ways, so much so that much of the lessons he learned in early S1 was to start learning how to embrace change and the new. And funnily enough, Sal’s conversation with Hop Pop in Little Frogtown even ends with what could be considered an inverse of the Core’s perversion of advancing technology to preserve Newtopia’s greatest minds.
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“Turns out if you embrace change instead of clinging to the past, you get a say in what the future looks like.”
In contrast, it seems like it would be applicable if the Core is a depiction of clinging to the past so hard, the only significant changes it likely embraces is trying to force the future to look more like the past/what it wanted in the past. It’d be like if Sal, instead of adapting to the times and finding a new niche for his sauce for everyone to enjoy, had done whatever he could at any cost to force people back into eating his traditional sandwiches with his sauce like used to be in the past, even if they didn’t want to.
As such, it wouldn’t surprise me if Hop Pop/‘s influence on his kids is meant to be building up towards him playing a part in the conflict between those ideals, where the Core symbolically refuses to let go of its tight grip on the past, whereas Hop Pop’s side has learned that it’s okay to let go of some pieces of the past and that sometimes it’s possible to still bring other pieces along going forwards.
At the very least, even though he may not be able to directly fight against the Core, he could still find a way to indirectly help or inspire the trio there in a particularly significant manner, and like my friend @mira-blue would probably say, man would that be a fascinating way to tie in his growth to the rest of the series.
Especially when one considers stuff like the potential point of thematic connection in Hop Pop’s pursuit of his dream to be an actor, particularly between its appearances in A Caravan Named Desire and Holloywood Hop Pop compared to other episodes.
There, Hop Pop had gotten so sucked into the allure of his dream coming true that in the former, he almost sacrificed his morals to keep performing even after finding out the plays were a distraction to rob folks until his morals reared their heads at the last second. And in the latter, he was so attached to the allure of continuing to become a gigantic star in Earth’s acting industry with the movie role that he indirectly was putting Polly and Sprig at risk of discovery from Mr X by extension the more he tried to chase after said dream.
And in that second episode, he had learned to focus more on protecting what truly mattered in his life after finally getting a taste of what he had wanted for so long rather than continue chasing after something he didn’t have, a kind of self-release from one’s dream that I have the feeling the Core would be very hard pressed to match.
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chokingonfeelings · 5 years
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Let’s take a look into the Plantar Family Shrub
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First, we’ve got Great Aunt Gertrude, pretty close to the ‘original green frog ancestor’! Also, someone who either married out of the family or never had any kids of her own, considering her branch ends there
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Next we’ve got “Uncle Al”, who’s curiously next to Gertrude in the family shrub, so we can assume they were siblings or at least closely related. Either that or they were married and had mr. Hop Pop lookalike for a child, although this family shrub seems to be missing couples and, uh. Other parents??? unless frogs raise their kids in single-parent families, who tf knows as of now. Either way, they existed around the same time.
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And then we get into the fun side of the family...
with Great Uncle Skip Plantar! (yep, he shares a name with our Skip.)
You’ll find Ole Skip above Uncle Al’s picture in the shrub, and although he seems to come from a different ‘branch’ of the family there’s nobody before him so... we can either assume he was around the same time as the other two frogs, or there are parents somewhere in there who weren’t included in the shrub. My family shrub reading abilities are subpar, but it looks like he might’ve been siblings with PolliAnna and another frog, and fathered that little green frog up above with the parted hairdo
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And talking about PolliAnna...
Turnip turned up farmer indeed!
PolliAnna didn’t have any kids as far as the shrub tells us, but the fact that she lived around the same time as Ole Skip might explain why their secret rooms were one above the other. Either they planned it like that, or PolliAnna built under her brother’s room after he was done with his’. Hell, maybe there’s a secret dungeon-building Plantar we don’t know of!
Either way, PolliAnna canonically fought in the “bog water wars of ‘48″ and the “western toad invasion of ‘53″. western toad invasion, huh...what toads do we know that live in the west and are well-known warriors?
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And last but least, the honorary Plantar herself...
Emma the Newt!
What’s fun about Emma is that she doesn’t just appear on the family shrub, but gives us a context for the rest of the frogs in her branch. 
Wilbur? The first in the branch, so technically her adopted dad/grandpa.
The two tadpoles? high up in the branch, fathered by a frog with a stylish top hat that also fathered another (missing in Emma’s picture) frog with a farmer’s hat.
Blonde frog? Now here things get interesting. Because following the shrub’s line, Blondie here is written down as Emma’s daughter. 
Interspecies adoption through generations? Sweet interspecies adoption through generations. Also really cool to see that Emma had kids of her own.
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Aside from that, Wilbur seems to have had two other kids, one which fathered the unnamed tadpoles and one which either didn’t have any kids of her own or, again, married out of the family she looks like she had pigtails, which gives me a certain Pippi Longstocking vibe that is beautiful. Whatever happened to those two frogs or whether they ever met Emma or not, who knows? But they probably weren’t in the picture (heh) by the time that picture of Emma and her family was taken. Unless they needed a whole two to three frogs to take a picture.
So there you have it, folks! 
All we know about the Plantar Family Shrub analyzed to the best of my capabilities. 
Any thoughts?
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