concept of katie killjoy having sold her soul to vox because she thought he was an honourable Straight Man and low-key had a thing for him but then later found out he was one of the QUEERS but it was already too late by then

she thinks valentino turned him gay (only because he's more openly queer and it was more obvious with him than vox)

Val's outfit and wings actually change with his mood, we've only seen him as red in the show because so far he's only been angry/horny. In the picture he was happy, he was yellow, Vox's turtleneck was yellow and they matched.

I wanted to give this a TRUE... but unfortunately I have a counterpoint....

it's okay though I can fix this

now it's a TRUE

I already like Valentino as a character, now we’re giving him justified beef? Love it. Imagine Val getting handsy with Vox in front of Killjoy just to fuck with her. Vox is fully aware of what he’s doing but figures as long as he’s not actively keeping him from doing his work then whatever, sure Val, you can sit in my lap. Val maintaining the careful line between staying within what Vox will tolerate and what will piss off Killjoy to maximize her discomfort. Killjoy has to bring her own pens in case Vox wants her to sign something because Satan forbid she touch a pen after a gay has handled it. Val looks for every excuse ever to have to use her pen.

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HELP LMAOOOOO essentially an extension of what was said here, katie killjoy becomes the biggest staticmoth anti because of this

I'm sorry you KNOW Katie also racist in addition to the homophobia like the ultimate Karen. She'd totally argue some nonsensical "It's Hell we speak ENGLISH here" to Val and I know his wonderfully petty ass would from then on exclusively speak Spanish around her and with Vox (he's gotta have every translator installed in his head, best way to reach every market and sell to them) just to piss her off. You just know she wants to call the police on him so bad and he stays unbothered by her white nonsense. I'm here for Val-Katie beef lmaoooo we can finally root for Valentino.

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HELP LMAOOOO he would do this, fanon val and katie beef is real. I find it funny how he enlists the help of another white person for this

so someone uploaded a video on twitter where she asked Viv about Alastor's and Vox's relationship. Viv answered that it's complicated and sad, and damn, I'm not sure if I'm ready for the angst in season 2

I actually like didn't see the clip itself or exactly what she said just heard that we're getting backstory jskdldflg but either way I'm excited it's going to be juicy (one-sided radiostatic will be canon #TRUST)

Katie Killjoy and Tom Trench both having sold their souls to Vox because they had a thing for him. Both thought he was straight, Tom's just like that.

Katie having a different broadcast partner originally and Vox switching Tom to her partner after she made some low-key homophobic comment just to piss her off.

Tom Trench being less interested in Vox when he gets outed because he was really only interested in the fantasy of his dick being good enough to turn the straight man gay, if he's already queer then what's the point?

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HEEEELP LMAOOO NOT TOM TOO JSDKJSDGKKSL this is real though

Katie would say 'Im not homophobic I just dont think its natural' ngl. Shed also call Tom the r slur a lot and insist disabled ppl should just 'try harder' and 'its their own fault'

Shed be in denial abt Voxs bisexuality trying to convince herself that hes not 'one of them queers' and go encourage Vox to date women while insisting him and Val have only platonically passionately made out and fcked bc they were curious

Also shed go 'Youre not gay everyone has those feelings abt those of the same gender, look I do too, but you must ignore it. See I didnt and thats why Im in hell' at some point ngl leaving everyone feeling a brand new emotion

Val is so confused, but makes a point to flirt with vox very openly around her and talk abt how many men hes fcked. Katie is disgusted and brings bug- sry I mean 'ANTI [f slur] MOTH' spray

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HELP I'M GONNA CRY?????

I don't think I can look at that turtleneck the same way again every time an artist draws it cause why did I see an uncoloured past vox and immediately lock in on the stupid fucking turtleneck

The Val-Killjoy rivalry has an extra layer to it if you follow the Closeted Katie Killjoy headcanon. Usually not my thing, but in this case, I think it’s funny.

Imagine a lesbian or bisexual Katie who’s been repressing her same-gender attraction her whole life and afterlife, and when she finally starts to come to terms with the fact that she finds women attractive, she blames it on Val because he “gave her the gay.”

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I'M GOING TO CRY SHE THINKS VAL SUCCESSFULLY INFECTED HER WITH HOMOSEXUALITY KSDLKSLLSG the moment she feels anything for the same gender she thinks "it must have been that time that moth brushed past me... no..... it must've been those 5 minutes we breathed the same air.... is homosexuality airborne?"

Val used to try to poach Vox's 666 employees for his studio, but now that Killjoy has pissed him off he splits his time spent looking for talent between looking for his own studio and looking for Vox's. Anybody visibly gay and SOC (sinner of color) gets nudged towards Vox. The white gays are his. He starts trying to shuffle the behind the scenes staff around too. His studio ends up whiter and straighter than it's ever been and he's about to lose his goddamn mind because one of these guys just asked him what gracias means (he said it to Velvette, Valentino does not thank his staff) but if it gives Killjoy an aneurysm it'll be worth it.

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LMAOOOOO HELP NOOOISGFKSODFOSD

Valentino trying to convince Vox that they should put Spanish subtitles on the newscasts. Says it's because new sinners love diversity and it'll boost the ratings, really just wants to piss Killjoy off and couldn't care less about the ratings or the sinners who don't speak English.

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LMAOOOOOOO, no notes, sure yeah

This blog is doing things to me earlier I saw a video on yt of everyone shitting on val (as they should) and my first thought was, and I kid you not, "at least he hates Killjoy".

… help.

I'M GOING TO CRY

Final thought. Love square between red sweater Vox, yellow sweater Vox, red wing Valentino, and yellow wing Valentino.

The oranges are happily married elsewhere and not involved

I'M TERRIFIED.

THIS BLOG IS MAKING ME CRAZY I MENTIONED TO AN IRL THR BODY PILLOW/LUCIFER COMMISION SAGA AND JUST WENT ON WITH THE CONVERSATION WITHOUT EXPLAINING BCS I JUST ASSUMED THEY'D KNOW HELP I'M IN TOO DEEP

HEEEEELP LAMSOGSDOKGSDOSD nono wdym lucifer's commissions saga is totally canon it happened in the show don't y'all remember it

Like- I know we've seen a lot of comedic takes on what might have gone down between Vox and Alastor. But I do like to think that there was a genuine bond and a real affection for each other that meant something to both of them. And then it ended up horribly exploding in both of their faces, and now they're employing very different strategies to ignore the fact that it's a relationship they both miss.

I guess that qualifies as "complicated and sad" lmao... and if nothing else I AM kind of relieved that Viv's answer makes it seem like it won't be treated as a joke or one-sided.

I like to think there were elements of a genuine friendship on both sides yeah, I guess you could say they miss what it used to be but I don't think at this current point they want each other back as a friend (I think vox has changed too much for alastor, there are things about him that he dislikes now and well. vox has too much salt and hatred towards alastor now) but yeah when it comes to their past friendship maybe alastor will finally beat the "he didn't actually care about vox" allegations (usually common in the "vox is the victim" takes), I like to think there was at least something positive there on alastor's side. that the "old pal" comment is a legitimate indication that vox was a friend to him

and whenever I like compare vox to being like alastor's previous charlie I don't even think of that in a "he didn't care" way because I think currently even though he obviously has nefarious intentions, he has some care for charlie and the hotel, even if he doesn't want to be seen as someone legitimately caring for them, I like to apply that to alastor's past relationship with vox

anyways link to a past post of me talking about alastor's side of their past friendship, I think it's just more interesting if alastor saw their friendship as genuine too, it being "complicated" would at least tell us it's not so simple as vox saw alastor as a friend but alastor saw him as nothing. listen, the romantic feelings are one-sided, the friendship was not.

Late ask: did we ever consider that it might not be a photo but a really good painting drawing

NOT BY LUCIFER NOT BY LUCIFER

The huge portrait of Asmodeus and Fizzarolli though? Absolutely one of his.

love how you had to specify not by lucifer LSMDKMASKMLG, I mean it is definitely a photo because of the faded/washed out colours but EVEN IF IT WAS A PAINTING THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE THE COLOUR DEBATE unless we want to argue artistic choices and the artist decided to change the colour for whatever reason