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ilsaethan · 9 months
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twelverriver · 10 months
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Ilsa Faust + being a ghost (or why I think she's still alive)
Fallout Script / Dead Reckoning Part One / Dead Reckoning Part One Soundtrack / Dead Reckoning Part One / Mission: Impossible (1996) / Light The Fuse Podcast: Interview with Christopher McQuarrie / Dead Reckoning Part One
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dhsyweirdo · 9 months
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"Benji, I won't let anything happen to you." ♡ Vice versa ♡
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ok but can we talk about luther during the abu dhabi airport scene!!!
my man the MVP casually handled two different laptops and directed ethan and benji separately at the same time?? bro can do everything🗣️‼️
also that part where he plainly spoke into ethan’s comm being like um ethan😀 would you be so kind as to let us know what’s always coming but never arrives⁉️😀😀 LMAO
long story short, everyone GIVE IT UP FOR LUTHER STICKELL🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
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forumsdackel · 7 months
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I wanted to do some gifs. Welp, let's have italian lawyer Ethan stills instead. More gifsets and stills on my blog/mostly focusing on TG and M:I. Any gif or still suggestions? Ask Box is open
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olympain · 9 months
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Are you okay?
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fire-of-the-sun · 9 months
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Ilsa and Ethan: There's Still Hope
Spoiler Warning for M:I7!
I'm sure a ton has already been said about Ilsa in the new movie, whether it be lamenting her loss or developing theories as to her potential return in the next film, but here are some contributions I've been mulling over. This isn't going to be an exhaustive list of reasons why she's still alive, but I will try to address some and add my own thoughts into the mix.
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I agree with the discussion that one of the best clues of this all being a fake out lies in Ethan and Ilsa's reunion near the beginning of the film. Ilsa plays dead during the fight and Ethan momentarily believes it before she attacks him and reveals herself to be alive. As it stands, this looks like a foreshadowing to her eventual, real death, however, I think it instead acts as setup to her still being alive. I think it's clear that her death fakeout exists to give us clues to her eventual return as well as deflect audiences from even considering it as we're trained to accept that foreshadowed events that transpire in most stories would simply be the end of it, but this isn't a typical story, this is Mission: Impossible, and nothing is as it seems and this film establishes that that's more true now than ever.
And if you're really going to kill Ilsa off, why do a fake-out at all? Why not just have her die later without warning and really shock the audience? Why already have the fans ruminating on the possibility early on and telegraph it long before it actually happens? Consider Julia's "death" in M:I3. The film starts in media res and there's a strong sense of tension throughout the whole film knowing that that's going to happen. Julia is going to get kidnapped and possibly die no matter what, but it's okay to spoil this scene in advance because she doesn't die. Because why would you tell the audience that's going to happen right away unless there's going to be some kind of twist where she lives? What's the point in watching the movie if you know that Ethan is ultimately going to fail and it's going to have a tragic, unsatisfying ending? Julia's death fakeout is a tactic meant to trick him and the audience and make him feel like he's lost only for the twist to be that he ultimately wins and Julia remains alive. I believe a similar tactic is being used with Ilsa which has the potential to be a very well-executed plot twist rather than a disappointing one if done correctly and not completely abandoned in the next film. I actually think that without the fakeout and just a sudden and completely unexpected death I'd feel more worried but, as it stands, I think the choice (among many others) actually serves to legitimize this all being fake.
After all, the best twists are ones that you can see coming if you're really looking for it and that's okay. It's okay that we've figured it out - that means the director ultimately did their job right. Some viewers, especially more casual fans, are taking what they were shown at face value and not considering there's any more to it. They're falling for the trick and that's fine too, because a good twist is one that is set up in a way that leaves clues but also remains largely hidden especially as the audience isn't looking for it. A magic trick that deflects us from seeing what the magician is actually doing. When Ilsa shows up in the next film, some people will feel rewarded for their observations and others will finally see all the pieces click into place that they disregarded before and both be satisfied, but I digress...
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Another huge scene to look to for clues lies in the team discussing the severity of the threat and really cementing just how difficult it's going to be to trick the Entity before the party. I think it's very possible that there are missing conversations here that we will not be privy to until the next film as Ethan would never let his friends be in such danger without having a real plan on how to protect them and the audience always knows what the plan is so when things go awry we're aware the complications were unprecedented. In this case, we really have no idea what they're walking into, nor do we see them effectively prep for it. Unless I'm forgetting something, why did Ilsa need to be at the party at all? Why would Ethan put Ilsa in danger like that for no real reason especially after already enduring those brief, agonizing moments earlier when he truly believed she was dead and had to consider a world without her in it and knowing that Gabriel has taken someone from him in the past? Ilsa is her own woman and can do what she wants, but we don't see him even trying to protest her inclusion and voicing fear for her safety for her to even refute.
The scene where Ilsa meets Ethan on the balcony afterward is incredibly short and could feel tacked on given that there's no real lead up to it, but it could very well be the aftermath of a heavy conversation where - feeling burdened by the weight of what must be done - Ethan leaves the room to think and Ilsa follows. She looks particularly chipper here despite the seriousness of what's going on and I believe her benign comments about Venice are purposefully meant to distract Ethan in an attempt to cheer him up. Notice how he shakes his head a little after he answers, like he knows what she's trying to do before giving into her and hugging back. She's calm because she has faith in the plan while he's nervous about it. As a side note, I think it was a touching detail to have Ethan return to this same balcony to grieve (publicly).
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We also see Ethan and Ilsa looking at each on the boat before he takes her hand on their way to the party. This, of course, acts as yet another sweet gesture to showcase how strong their relationship is at this point but, again, Ethan doesn't seem that happy. This isn't a relaxing date (which they deserve), he looks tense as he takes her hand. Notice how he's fidgeting as he strokes her fingers and rubs his own fingers together in his free hand. It's like he's trying to hold onto her as much as he can knowing what's going to transpire and, once again, Ilsa looks like she's trying to comfort him by stroking his hand back, never taking her eyes off him. It's a nice continuation of the dynamic of their previous moment together.
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And, if this is truly Ilsa's last outing? Why hold back on basically every aspect of it? If it's truly Ilsa's last fight, why not make it her biggest, baddest fight yet that showcases all of her skill but also begins to feel truly unwinnable? We've seen her face intimidating foes before, so if she's truly going to meet her match, you really need to sell to the audience that all her usual tricks aren't working and let us see on her face that she knows she's losing this fight, which would also help build a sense of dread. I've only seen the film once at this time, but I don't recall her looking too worried at any point at the party or during her fight with Gabriel. She's a brave and skilled woman of course, but she seemed incredibly unfazed by it all, almost like she knew how it was going to go. I want to add that there's no way of knowing for sure when entering into any fight that you're guaranteed to survive. Gabriel could have stabbed her anywhere and there'd be no way to anticipate that beforehand but, as I've seen pointed out, her hand is also on the knife when it plunges into her chest. The only way to know for sure where the blade would go to look deadly but still survive it would be to guide it there herself and that seems like something the skilled Ilsa would be able to pull off.
And if it's truly Ilsa's end, why not go out of your way to make it as sad as possible? What if Gabriel leaves her just alive enough for Ethan to find her and they have a heartbreaking final moment together where they perhaps exchange a line or two before he watches her die? Of course, to add insult to injury, the grieving process is pitifully brief, focusing more on Grace's reaction than Ilsa's own friends. Why not have a stronger reaction from Ethan, Benji and Luther that absolutely breaks the audience's heart? Just compare Ethan's reaction to Ilsa's death to the assumed death of Julia in MI3, the other love of his life. Yes, technically, that was a very different situation and Julia was his wife after all and Ilsa isn't, but they don't even compare. Heck, we even get to see Ethan mourn Lindsey, a friend, in M:I3 longer than Ilsa. I understand that the movie can't languish in sorrow for too long and Ethan is used to compartmentalizing to get the job done, but this is also one of the biggest losses he's suffered and right on the heels of proclaiming to his friends how he'd never let anything happen to them. This is also the longest movie in the series so far and it has no excuse for skimping on the aftermath of the death of one of its biggest and most beloved characters. Ilsa's death is sad but leaves you feeling more empty and disappointed than utterly devastated - at least for me.
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We've also seen Ethan act before, as is a necessary skill for a spy, and I think the fairly subdued reaction to her death speaks to his ability to act realistically sad (he's had practice for this exact situation too as he's probably channeling all the awful things he felt when he believed her to be dead at the beginning of the movie) but also speaks to the fact that it's not actually real because if it was I think it'd be a far stronger reaction. Yes, Ethan could just be becoming desensitized to losing people after enduring it so many times but I don't think he'd hold back for Ilsa. His partner. His equal. Someone he loves deeply and offers his only chance at a life beyond this. That chance, that love, that happiness, are now gone forever and that's not something you just take in your stride.
And yes, maybe Rebecca needed or wanted out of this franchise to film other projects but that's only more reason to give her the best sendoff you possibly can and I don't think anyone, not even the director himself would be able to admit that this was worthy enough of her character and respectful to Rebecca. If even her final fight was, for whatever reason, purposefully undercut, then what else did the director choose to take away despite having so little to begin with and why? If, historically, it's not in his nature to pull something like this based on his previous work in the series and his own passionate comments regarding the character, why would he now? It's the overall lack of care in regard to her character all of a sudden that makes it all feel fishy.
And if this is it for Ethan and Ilsa, why not push the romance? Instead of just a hug on the balcony, why not feature their first kiss or, at least, a much longer conversation that cements where they really are before it all gets taken away? If the director attempted to include a kiss in the past but scrapped it because it wasn't the right time, he probably intended it to happen eventually. Why not sneak it in right before she dies if these are their last scenes together anyway? Maybe a kiss would only serve to telegraph her demise further by making the audience more nervous about her fate, but it also would have made it even sadder knowing they had finally reached that point right before she died. If the intention of all of this is truly just to make Ethan and the audience sad and it's going to hurt one way or another, you might as well push it as hard as you can to achieve the desired effect. Regardless, I believe that when she comes back in Part 2, they'll finally get that well-earned kiss and that's what the director is waiting for.
But why have Ethan lose another woman he loves at all? Why watch him go through an entire series where all he does is lose lovers only to have him ultimately end up alone especially after developing the perfect romantic partner with him and getting audiences on board with it over the course of multiple films? It all just feels unnecessarily cruel and, as it's nothing new for him, what is it really adding to the story or his character? Losing another lover is predictable at this point but bringing one back and actually letting him be happy? Now that would be a twist! What a triumphant moment it would be for Gabriel to see Ilsa return in the next movie (and perhaps have a rematch) and realize that he's the one who'd been duped? That the Entity is not infallible? That Ethan has been one step ahead of him this whole time?
I don't think I'm alone when I say that the best possible ending for the series and Ethan's story is to get to live his life with Ilsa given he wasn't able to with Julia, trusting the IMF in the hands of new operatives like Grace to carry on in their stead (notice how they focused on that other new recruit during Ethan's introduction as well like they're preparing him to pass the torch). He finally gets to go with Ilsa like she asked him in Rogue Nation and in Fallout and they both finally get out of the game and live happily in the peace that they helped ensure and so deeply deserve. Ethan has sacrificed his own happiness to save the world so many times, why can't he and Ilsa finally get to find some happiness with each other? This series has had it's bittersweet moments but it's never been a tragedy. The conflict is meant to feel insurmountable (it is called Mission: Impossible after all) but the heroes still win and get to be happy and I expect that to continue to be the case in the very end.
Now, I understand and agree with confronting real consequences as we face our final antagonist of the series, but I would honestly predict an actual death from Luther or Benji in the final film - staples of the series and longtime friends of Ethan - that would hurt the audience too but not steal a future from him and perhaps Ilsa's "death" is also meant to deflect from the real death that's coming which would still, naturally, makes things very bittersweet. That being said, if this series wanted to continue to lean into happy outcomes over sad ones, then simply having Ethan get to live peacefully in the knowledge that he was able to keep all of his friends safe would be enough for him and for me.
As of now, I'm actually feeling hopeful about the potential for Ilsa to return. I think there are currently more viable reasons for why she could still be alive than dead and I think it would vastly improve the story they're telling rather than take away from it or feel forced because, as it stands, the execution of her death does feel less than the caliber of what this series is capable of and a surprise return would certainly remedy that. It wouldn't feel like a gimmick given the nature of the series, nor do I think it would undermine the death scene we got since it didn't have any impact on the plot and barely any on the characters anyway. Ilsa returning would improve things, not take away and if this all works to bring her back, it will take what was a lackluster plot point and unceremonious exit of a major character to a brilliant showcase of subterfuge both for the characters and the audience and the latter sounds more like the Mission: Impossible I know.
The first time Ethan faked the death of a woman he loved to protect her; he lost her. Now he's had to do it again and this time, he'll get her back. There's still hope.
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maverickcalf · 10 months
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If I had a nickel for every time a villain used Benji's voice to hurt Ethan, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
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themrsw1z · 9 months
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Gabriel waiting in a box in the train's luggage compartment, hoping that Paris hasn't betrayed him earlier than intended
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snovyda · 9 months
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There was a line [in the airport bomb scene] when we originally shot it, when the bomb asks Benji a personal question - it's in the moment when the bomb is trying to... it's a psychometric test thing. And the question that the bomb asked didn't go down well with the test crowds. [...] The bomb asked Benji if he has ever thought about hurting himself or others. It's like a classic question you ask people in a psychiatric exam. And Benji says "no", and the bomb tells him that he's lied. And so Benji has to admit that he's kind of self-harmed. And the audience fucking hated that idea. They hated the idea that Benji... So we changed the question to "Are you afraid of death?" Which actually came up with a great moment when he says, "Who isn't?!" But... yeah, [...] it was too dark. My character's score went up, like, 10% after they took that question out. [...] We were getting into this idea of PTSD, and Benji had been almost killed in Fallout, Ilsa saved his life, and we were talking about how this weighs on him, you know, and how he was kind of close to the edge in a few earlier iterations of the script. Benji was having moments of doubt and, you know. In the end, that stuff kind of felt like it wasn't really necessary, and we wanted to concentrate on the team dynamic and have the audience infere certain things about where they are emotionally. So that felt a little too on the nose, and we moved on from that.
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ilsaethan · 9 months
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k9effect · 10 months
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"Should you choose to accept it..."
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Bonus textless version and close ups:
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dhsyweirdo · 9 months
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"who or what is the most important thing to you"
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It has always been you.
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ilsafausthunt · 9 months
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Nice shoes by the way. Not his. Yours. You should go before it gets ugly. We’ve never met before, right? Follow me. Who are you? You better hurry now. Good luck. No, wait! Wait! I have a way out. Interested? Lead the way. Shoes. Shoes, please. I'm going to have to search you. You have to let me go. Ilsa Faust. You're Ethan Hunt. And that shade is very hard to find. A test. Second one I've failed, thanks to you. We're after the same thing, and I can help you. You have everything you need to find me. You're all right. Oh, you're okay. Come away with me. Right now. And what about Lane? Forget about Lane. There will always be another Lane. There will always be people like us to face him. We've done our part and we've been cast aside. We can be anyone. We can do anything. It's only a matter of going. I've saved your life twice. I won't be able to do it again. You're free now. Where will you go? I don't know. You'd better hurry now. Good luck. You know how to find me. What are you doing here? It's good to see you, too. What do you think you're doing? I'm going with you. Like hell you are. You should've stayed out of the game. You should've come with me. I knew if I followed her, you'd show up eventually. Are you okay? Ilsa, I never wanted to hurt you. I know you have your reasons. I know. You need to walk away. I can't do that. You weren't at the Palais to kill Lark. No. You were there to protect him. Yes. And you killed him to protect me. This is how I prove my loyalty. This is how I come home. But you were out. You were free. We are never free. I can't help you. I will get to him one way or another. Please don't make me go through you. I'm coming with you. I know. The ribs. Watch the ribs. You okay? You've never looked better. Please don't make me laugh. Ilsa. Wait, wait, wait. It’s me. Ethan. Listen to me. You’re dead. Stay dead. It’s my first time in Venice. It’s mine too. Run as far as you can.
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forumsdackel · 7 months
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Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning - Part 1 Italian Lawyer Ethan Hunt A gifset. Stillpost x
More gifsets and stills on my blog/mostly focusing on TG and M:I. Any gif or still suggestions? Ask Box is open
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badgerhuan · 9 months
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I loved Ilsa in Dead Reckoning Part One. I've always loved her character but her arc in this movie makes me feel Emotions.
for the entire series since we were introduced to her, we've always seen her wanting out of the game. she tries to run, tries to cut out that part of her life, and she always fails, pulled back for a reason or another.
she was always looking out for herself, going it alone, and only teaming up with Team Hunt when their goals align. but she's grown from that. we see her willingly joining the team this time, instead of doing her own thing until she's forced to confront them. we see her interacting with the team, with Ethan, beyond what's needed for the mission at hand.
we see her make a conscious choice to go save a woman she didn't know at the risk of her own life, a decision she never would've made when we met her in Rogue Nation.
and it's only her compassion and decision in this moment that finally turned Grace around. Grace joined Team Hunt bc she felt indebted to Ilsa, bc she realized that instead of running away, like she expected her to, like she herself was trying so desperately to do, Ilsa came back. for her.
she doesn't know how to feel about that, but she does know she'll do her best to help the friends of the woman who saved her life.
just!!! it's so well-written, and aches in a good way, the same way Oblivion makes me ache. an ending that's the culmination of her character, an essential part of the story, and a self sacrifice that shows her growth. I'm sad about it but at the same time I love it so much. what a way to go.
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