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#maybe it's the time to reread the manga..........
neversetyoufree · 3 days
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I started vnc way back when there was only one volume, stopped, and only restarted it last week 🙈 since then, I have reread it twice and will again, once I'm done with exams, as it has turned me insane. And since no one I know reads it, I just wanted to ask what your thoughts are on my theory that the reason not 'didn't reach out to vanitas' thus leading to his death is because of Ruthven compulsion on him? Cuzco after the 'ill never set you free'thing, I just can't see noel not reaching out tonight purpose. Your blog is a joy to read through, and I love your meta!
Hello!! Thank you so much! It's always great to see another person having fun with my favorite manga :D.
My thoughts on Vanitas's eventual death are. complicated. If we keep going down the path we're on now, I honestly suspect Vanitas's death is going to be more assisted suicide than murder. IE, Vanitas asks for Noé to kill him because it's preferable to the alternative.
Per Ruthven's compulsion, I definitely think it's going to come up, and I do like the idea of Ruthven trying to force Noé to hurt or kill Vanitas, but I don't think it's going to be how Vanitas dies. In a way, I think that would feel somewhat cheap.
Noé killing Vanitas because of his oath to Ruthven would make sense on a plot level. It's a nice, logical explanation for why Noé would kill someone he so clearly adores. I can see why it's a lot of people's theory! However, that explanation wouldn't really deliver on an emotional level. It's just not interesting for Noé's characterization.
For one thing, making Noé kill Vanitas when he's not in control of himself would strip away all of Noé's agency. With VnC's opening chapter, Mochijun sets us up so that the entire time we're reading, we're asking ourselves "but why will Noé kill him?" It's a big source of intrigue and suspense. And to me, finally resolving that suspense with "It's not his fault! He was artificially forced to!" feels like a major letdown. It adds nothing to Noé's character. It's answering that all-important "why" with "There is no reason why. He didn't actually want to." I think that would be a cop-out.
Through that denial of agency, I think this ending would also risk losing out on a lot of potential character development for Noé. The core of Noé and Louis's tragedy is that Noé desperately wanted to save Louis, but the only kind of salvation Louis wanted from him was death, and Noé couldn't give him that.
Now Noé has another person close to him that is also seeking salvation through death. If Noé kills Vanitas, but he's not in control of himself when he does, that misses out on a big opportunity. Has Noé come to understand salvation through death? Has his worldview changed since Louis made that request of him? Does he have it in him to kill a loved one if that's what they ask? If Vanitas's death is forced by Ruthven, then we're much less likely to get answers to those questions.
Personally, my favorite hope/theory for how Ruthven's order will play out is the idea that Ruthven will order Noé to hurt/stop/kill Vanitas, but Vanitas will manage to snap Noé out of it in the same way Noé broke Vanitas's self-hypnosis in the amusement park. There's nothing I love more than a gay little parallel.
I can see a scenario where Ruthven's oath is what pushes Vanitas close to death? Maybe Noé will be ordered to try to kill Vanitas, and that will set off whatever horrible chain of events pushes Vanitas to ask for death that final time. But even if Ruthven does order Noé to hurt Vanitas (which is a big if), I don't think it will be what causes the killing blow.
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rtprsd3nt · 4 months
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my telegram mutual asked me to draw fem eden and who am i to deny such request
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pikachibz · 24 days
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ive absolutely fallen in love with 7th time loop, especially the two leads, their dynamic, progression, plot AND THE MYSTERIES WHAT DID ARNOLD SAY TO RISHE IN HER 6TH LOOP????! WHY DID HE START THE WAR WHATS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE LOOPS?? so much to know and speculate abt i can't stop rolling the series in my brain
i need more content of them asap.
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tea-cat-arts · 1 year
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There is something deeply wrong with Roland and I'm kinda obsessed
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coquelicoq · 4 days
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how did you discover natsumes yuujinchou?
it's all @uovoc's fault!! they told me about the anime while they were watching it for the first time, in such glowing terms i had to know what all the fuss was about. and then i mainlined the whole thing in like two weeks and spedran the entire spectrum of human emotions AND somehow came out the other side obsessed with the exorcists, which i do not think they were expecting when they recommended it to me. such is life.
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franeridan · 8 months
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I was thinking about how hug-y opla luffy is and I realised that if you strictly consider instances in which he meant to hug someone and not just hold them (so take out every single time he's picked up someone and either lugged them around or flung them across a battlefield) in the manga he hasn't actually hugged that many people at all, has he
#off the top of my head i can remember#chopper right after the second round of the davy back fight#chopper flings himself at him and luffy goes through the whole talk with foxy after while hugging him#it's SUPER cute and also I'm pretty sure the first time luffy hugs anyone in the manga after shanks loses an arm for him#ace. we all know when.#sabo! when he finds out he's still alive!!!!#and zoro when they meet back up in wano#not to zolu but that's the only hug luffy starts himsef that doesn't involve copious amounts of tears#he's just extremely happy to see zoro !!!!!! can't blame him I'd be as well#these are genuinely the only times i can remember him hugging someone in the whole 106 volumes of manga?#though i had forgotten about the chopper one until i reread that arc so maybe there's more I'm forgetting#ah allow me to zolu again but isn't that amazing that oda obviously doesn't think about hugs as something luffy would do casually#but still drew luffy fling himself at zoro on sight after a few weeks of separation#ah#AHHH#anyway yes very interesting#you'd assume with that personality luffy would be hugging people more often and yet#that said a lot of people hug luffy while luffy just lets them hang off him and goes about his way#so he IS pretty casual about hugs#he just doesn't start them or partake in them a lot#i had never realized honestly#very very inchresting#coming back to this a trillion years later to add that he hugs von chan in impel down!!!!#extremely important so let's jot that down
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ywpd-translations · 1 year
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Ride 712: To the next step!!
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Pag 3
4: Was it hard?
Did you run with everything you had?
5: In this year's first years' race, the second and third place were
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Pag 4
1: Hinoki Keisuke
2: and Amigoe Kyoutarou
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Pag 5
1: You guys
2: We....chased him.... at full throttle, but....
3: As expecte.... we couldn't catch up!!
4: From the moment we started going around the dam.... I saw him for a moment ahead of us, but..... ngh!
5: Kyoutarou said he had a cramp in his lag
Wha!! After that you were saying “I can't do it anymore” too, Kei-chan!!
6: Imaizumi-san
Well.... anyway....
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Pag 6
1: “Losing” really is frustrating
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Pag 7
1: Yeah....!!
2: Amigoe, Hinoki, I have towels and water for you!!
Waaaa!! Thanks!!
Thanks!!
Eh, uhm... sorry
I'm a second year, Danchiku
Danchiku-san!!
3: On their first time riding a road-bike, they were Rokudai's assists
In their first race
4: They place second and third, with a 2 minutes difference with Kinaka
Wateer....
Fourth and fifth place are coming, I see two people
5: ….. huh
It's Murakami and Furuya!
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Pag 8
2: Hahaha, it was so much fun... thoday's race!!
I'm very satisfied!! You did a good job!!
3: Kinaka!! Where is Kinaka!? I wanna congratulate him too!!
4: I did it, I did it!!
Sohoku!! The first years' race!! Damn!! I still can't believe it!!
5: Who told me two years ago... that “it's no use going to Sohoku”!!
I did it, I took it, I got results in Sohoku!!
Hahaha!! Are you seeing my strength now!?
6: Yoo, Kinaka, today's race was good!
Yes!!
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Pag 9
3: Ex- excuse me.... teh
Thank you very much.... teh
4: Kei-chan.....
Kyou-chan.....
8: I.... I'm all worn out, but
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Pag 10
1: I fullfilled my promise!!
Yeah!
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Pag 11
1: You're incredible
Roku-chan!!
4: Yeah....!!
5: We'll join the club too
Until we make sure!!
6: Thank you, teh
For... for making sure I did it
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Pag 12
1: Don't worry about it anymore
3: Yeah
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Pag 13
6: You're right!!
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Pag 14
1: The next day, Kei-chan Kyou-chan officially quitted the bicycle racing club
Thank you for your help
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Pag 15
5: Are you sure?
6: Yes
Sorry for causing you trouble!!
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Pag 16
1: Ah, it's okay, if you want to try again, you can always rejoin the club
They're not ready for that
2: I was surprised and shocked too
In case they decide to rejoin, they'll undergo a severe test
Ehhh!?
3: We'll rejoin the basket club
Excuse us
Even though I knew it
4: To advance or to stop, you're the one who decide
5: That's what bicycles are
6: If this is the path you chose for yourself, then follow it and move forward!!
7: Yes!!
'lright!!
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Pag 17
2 Seeing them going away made me feel unsettled
3: The ground felt like marshmallows, and my heart shaked and wavered
5: So
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Pag 18
1: I stood firm with all my strength, and with all my strength I waved my hand
Kei-chan, Kyou-chan, thank you!!
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Pag 19
1: Rokudai-ku.....
Is he okay?
2: He's okay
Proably
3: Thank you
4: Separations make people stronger
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Pag 20
2: Rokudaiii, I told you
We step on when we're halfway through the curve
You're too late, so you'll fall behind
I- got it, teh
I'll be careful teh
3: Ohoh!! Not bad, the NakaRoku combination!!
NakaRoku....!? That's a unique abbreviation
But still not as good as us!!
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Pag 21
1: The team's name we e were once part of, the “SS team”, stands for “speed shot” which means to shoot through your opponents quickly
2: But we're different now!!
Our “team SS” stands for...
3: Special strong!!
Which means “special strong”*!!
(NdT.: the forst time he says it in english already, so then he repeats the meaning in Japanese)
Wha!?
His vocabulary....!!
4: Hahaha, what do you think, it suits us, right? Danchiku!!
Uh.... uhm!? Oh... yeah, it's... simple
Hahaha
5: You spent time.... to think about it...?
You know me well!! I searched in a dictionary!!
Is that so... well, in that case, it can't be helped
6: Danchiku
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Pag 22
1: This year, let's go to the Inter High together
3: That's what I want
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Pag 23
1: Special strong means that “the two of us are special and we become the strongest when we're together”
2: Issa …..!!
3: Well, Onoda-san said that the members will be announced at the training camp again
But don't worry, you even won on Minegayama last autumn
4: You'll become a member for sure, Danchiku!! Hahaha
5: “For.... sure””
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Pag 24
1: Issa..... there's something I still can't tell you
2: After that fierce race on Minegayama last autumn
All the time
3: My body's joints are so tight, and they hurt so much that I can't run like I used to
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orcelito · 5 months
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Went skimming thru late trimax For Reasons, got caught up reading the Legato fight, realized things about the fight that I never had before & went WOW, I kind of want to write an analysis post right now!
Felt the same kind of insanity grip me, however momentarily, that fueled all my analysis posts however many months ago. Too tired to actually word things coherently right now, but...
I May or may not have a full(ish?) analysis of the Legato & Vash fight a la style of This post analyzing the Trigun: Multiple Bullets fight that got unexpectedly kind of popular. People seemed to really appreciate that one, & I even had some ppl saying it could be cool if I did that for others?
So. Legato fight. Maybe. Feel free to remind me later if u see no mention of it again for over a week lol
#speculation nation#ive been wanting to go back into reading the manga again#ive only slowly (VERY slowly) been puttering along with where i am in my fic#for research purposes with the fic.#i do want to go back through the manga bc i STILL havent done a full reread of it#ive just reread so many different parts of it for assorted research that im probably getting to some 10 or so reads total lmao#i wanna reread it in full tho front to back to sort out any stray details and remember any timeline things i might have slightly skewed.#the problem with reading the manga though. is that every fucking time i look at it. i am consumed by a drive to research EVERY little thing#so me reading turns into 'hm thats interesting. that reminds me of this thing that i know happens in volume 8. let me just check that now--'#and i end up so dreadfully distracted every damn time. bc i end up with all my wires crossed and my attention pointing a million ways#it's exhausting. and so i havent been reading the manga outside of random research dives.#im very good at that. i know every volume of the manga and can find Anything within 1 or 2 mins (at the Most)#which is also kind of the problem lol. fingers in too many pies. so many things to think about.#if i get back into Actually rereading the manga tho you can bet ur ASS ill find more things to make posts about#every time i open up the manga i find new things that i could analyze.#i just havent. bc i dont have time. but. ykno what. maybe i Could get back into it...#remind me later. this is one of my favorite fucking fights with my favorite Fucking panels#and i realized smth about the shit Vash is doing that was making me lose my MINDDDD#later tho. ive been sleep deprived today. and it is time for me to rest.#& yea yea ITNL is still the main focus. but idk i have such a mind for details and i remember So many things about the manga#i wanna show that off to people again. and thus. Analyses!!! :D#later. goodnight for now
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severeweatheralert · 4 months
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resisting the urge to go through the entire Alice in Borderland canon again just to write essay-length character analysis of the Arisu + Chishiya + Niragi dynamic
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yuridovewing · 7 months
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A while back, someone mentioned in the tags of my Darktail and Onestar post that swapping Sol's ShadowClan plotline with Darktail's WindClan one would have been interesting, and ngl. I actually sorta want to do that in my au... like Sol isn't Onestar's kid, but he goes to WindClan during Po3 where Onestar is probably near his lowest, hes deeply paranoid and resentful at what he was put through in Starlight and he's starting to lash out more, and Sol takes advantage of that and makes him become even more disillusioned with clan culture and StarClan. Sol coordinates the Eclipse Battle as a way to manipulate the clans into destroying one another, and WindClan is at the forefront. Maybe he even convinces Onestar that dismantling the clans is what's best for him. Idk though, throwing spaghetti at the wall here
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shoechoe · 1 year
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Something I always think about when it comes to Diavolo in the manga and anime is his tattoos. The anime heavily simplifies his tattoos down and it makes me kind of miss the complex design that the manga's had (though I agree with the decision to simplify them and obviously wouldn't wish that on the animators lol). Mostly, I like the red streaks in the manga- it's neat.
Though I have no clue why Diavolo of all people would be okay with having extremely identifying marks on his arms... but I guess it doesn't matter since he's erased his appearance from everywhere and even when the gang got a shot of his face they couldn't trace it back to anything.
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mishkakagehishka · 1 month
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There was talks of ouran season 2 tho like i'm not going insane the media is just trying to gaslight me i remember the articles from 2023. And 2022 even. Where is it.
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lemongogo · 1 year
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cacturne · 2 days
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its done. its actually over.
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lizkreates · 8 months
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IT'S TIME! I'm super late, and I lurked in the Trigun Bookclub tag long enough, I'm committing to it!
This will be my 3rd time reading the manga this year. The first time was with my Dark Horse books, the second with Overhaul, and this time I'll be reading @trigun-manga-overhaul again. (Thank you Overhaul Team for your hard work!)
I'm not sure I can offer anything new that hasn't been covered. Maybe I'll just go off on what I liked and found interesting about it.
I'm no essayist, many have put into words what I've thought far more eloquently than I ever could. But if something piques my interest I'll try! I put (almost) all of my skill points in art and comics, so I'll probably pick out visuals or paneling.
If I'm feeling up for it, and have the time, I may color some of my favorite pages or panels. (I'm a Trigun old and this series heavily influenced my creative taste and I think it'd be a nice hommage.)
I got carried away with other things but I'm working up my vol 1 post! Excited to be here for my 3rd round. :3
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sleepinglionhearts · 2 years
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drawings of various claymore characters please cure my art block
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