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perfectlygrim · 1 year

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One of my favorite photos that I took with my Partner at Katsu 2022!

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hoegender · 3 months

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grown up ciel is a fascinating concept to me if he even gets to grow up, that is

#he's been too busy with his job to learn how to tie his tie #he mastered the neck ribbon and couldn't be bothered to learn a new tie technique #like ok i'm eventually gonna pay this guy anyway.#let him do it for me #black butler #kuroshitsuji #black butler fanart #kuroshitsuji fanart #ciel phantomhive #o!ciel #sebastian michaelis #thihart #thiha thinks thoughts

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icantdothistodaybruh · 1 year

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no thoughts, head empty, just

#kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #our ciel #sebastian michaelis #sebaciel #black butler #He is one hell of a pain in the ass when it comes to carrying his master around #I just love sketching way too much there's no denying that sorry to anyone expecting full rendered background stuff #my art

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lunerium · 6 days

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Yana’s Sebaciel Sketches (Part one)

I thought that Sebastian blushing and drooling in his sleep was quirky enough

But I just read the caption, it says “hehe, bocchan…” with a heart next to it.

WHAT THE HELL IS HE DREAMING

#sebaciel #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #black butler #proship #kuroshitsuji #official art #There’s not a lot of room left to imagination #mumbling his master’s name in his sleep #while drooling and blushing #makes me think some things

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another-kshit-blog · 11 months

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Do you think Ciel uses the glow of his contract eye to read in the dark under his covers?

#sebastian realizes what he's doing one day and is surprised because he's never heard of anyone doing that but has to give him a lecture #“young master reading in low light is terrible for your eyesight”#ciel just stares at him #edgar allen poe is so much creepier when you read it by the light of your cursed demon eye #ciel phantomhive #kuroshitsuji #black butler #my thoughts

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plague-of-insomnia · 7 months

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What’s In A Title?: Variations on “Master” in Black Butler

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

Throughout the manga, we see various titles used for Vincent, Real Ciel, and Our Ciel, with these being more obvious in the original Japanese than in translation.

This post will focus on Sebastian and Tanaka and the various terms they use at different points within the story.

I personally am not an expert on keigo (the most formalized of speech that Sebastian speaks almost exclusively in in Japanese), so I am not really going to be going into the subtleties there. (Other posts have tackled this already, and probably with more expertise than I could.)

I also want to emphasize I am only now beginning to read the manga from ch 1 in Japanese (I’ve only read bits and pieces until the most recent ~25 chapters or so), so it is possible I am missing some examples or variations mentioned in other parts of the 200+ chapters not brought up here.

However, I think we can still look at these subtle differences even if you are an English speaker who knows zero about formality levels/humble speech in Japanese. And if you’re willing to take this journey with me despite these caveats, keep reading.

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

Before I get into the variations between Sebastian and Tanaka, let’s look at some of the titles used:

The variations are as follows:

Dannasama - 旦那様

Toushu - 当主

Shujin - 主人

Goshujinsama - ご主人様

“my lord” - ご主人様・マイロード

Lord Ciel - ��エル様

Bocchan - 坊ちゃん

Tanaka

Tanaka uses #1, #2, #3, #6, and #7. Let’s look at him first.

Dannasama - 旦那様

Means “master of the house,” but is also a term you’d use with a boss or someone of higher status, akin to “sir” in some usages in English.

Tanaka uses this term only for Vincent, so far as I know.

Toushu - 当主

Means “present head of the family.”

Tanaka uses this when speaking about/to Our Ciel when distinguishing him from his father, the previous head. For example, in the murder arc when he points out that it isn’t appropriate for the master of the house to be upset by a servant’s death.

Shujin - 主人

Means “head of the household” or “master” (among other uses). This version does not have the added formality/humbleness of the versions that Sebastian uses (the go- prefix and the -sama suffix).

Tanaka uses this when speaking generally about “the master” or “one’s master,” for example, in the end of the murder arc when he tells Sebastian a Phantomhive butler shouldn’t die before his master.

Lord Ciel - シエル様

Just Ciel + the kanji for “sama,” is how Tanaka refers exclusively to Real Ciel throughout the manga, to the best of my knowledge, when speaking to or of him specifically, individually.

Above, we see how in the example on the right (in the present), Tanaka calls RC “Lord Ciel” directly, and in the example on the left, how he refers to him that way in the past as well when not directly addressing him. (OC is “you” or 貴方 there.)

Bocchan - 坊ちゃん

Means “young master,” and is how Tanaka refers to Our Ciel almost exclusively (except for the examples above), not only before the tragedy but after. He immediately knew that Ciel was OC and not his twin, and we know this because of the address.

Sebastian seems to have picked up the title from Tanaka, because he does not use it before they see him. Above, he even puts special emphasis on the title when he uses it for the first time. And as far as I know, aside from “my lord,” he refers to Ciel as such exclusively thereafter.

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

Sebastian

Sebastian uses #4, #5, and #7.

Goshujinsama - ご主人様

Means “head of the household” or “master” (among other uses). This version does include the formal/humble prefix “go-” and suffix “-sama.”

This is the first term that Sebastian uses for Ciel when he shifts from “you” (貴方, anata) to “master,” when they first begin establishing the contract. He also uses a variation on this I’ll explain next, but THIS version, said exactly like this, he stops using after their visit to Tanaka.

You can see in the above examples that he uses this address both before and after he assumes his butler form.

I expect that this is likely how Sebastian has referred to all his masters as I believe it’s the most humble/formal way of addressing one’s master (aside from more specific titles that may be used).

My Lord - ご主人様・マイロード

Even before he adopts “bocchan,” Sebastian sometimes refers to Ciel in English as “my lord,” as Yana informs us via the katakana spelling on the kanji. Yet she still writes it in keigo, as if to reminds us of the manner in which Sebastian speaks, and that even if he has dropped the uber formal “goshujinsama,” he is, in a sense, still using it throughout the story.

Bocchan - 坊ちゃん

As I explained above, this seems to be a manner of address Sebastian picks up from Tanaka. It seems to imply that he does so partly because he recognizes that the old man is aware of Ciel’s real identity (unlike Madam Red, who assumes he’s RC, which is why Ciel looks so dead-eyed while Sebastian is smirking).

Maybe he does it to mock him at first, a reminder that Sebastian knows he’s a liar. Maybe he adopts it because he’s never had a young master before and decides it could be a fun change of pace.

Unless Yana says something or reveals more insight into Sebastian’s POV, however, we may never know exactly why he made this shift and stuck with it.

旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん

And that’s my rundown of how “master” is used in Japanese by Sebastian and Tanaka, depending on who they’re addressing or referring to and at what point we are in the story. As you can see, most of it is lost in translation.

If you enjoyed this post, you may like to check out some of my other kuro translation posts, including my pronoun series, in which I explain why various characters use certain personal pronouns.

Reblogs and tips are also always appreciated!

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judesmoonbeauty · 2 months

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2024 Villain's Festival Master List ♛

Fan translation only. Not 100% accurate. Please expect grammatical errors. Cybird owns everything. Feel free to re-blog, but please do NOT post my translations elsewhere. Also, feel free to ignore my random commentary. Please note, I will translate what I am able to obtain during the event. I can not guarantee I will receive any of the bonus stories, but I will try.

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kokokokuro · 11 months

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He can turn himself into a kewpie baby it seems...

#my art #yoiya naze mugen to bihai #black butler #kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #blackbutler #the young master is full of surprises

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hisbutler-problematic · 1 year

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the thing about ciel is he is an awful little boy but he does NOT raise his voice, so any time it actually happens, people get surprised

love that

he said sebastian and i will have a relationship based on bullying each other and generally being awful but i will NOT raise my voice

ciel: [yells] sebastian: Oh We’re Serious

#kuroshitsuji #black butler #sebastian michaelis #our ciel #even the other servants get surprised any time ciel raises his voice #ciel actually treats his employees better than any other noble i will not be convinced otherwise #the SURPRISE on everyone’s faces when r!ciel snapped at sebastian and basically told him to shut up #the young master would NEVER #sky posting

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anawkwardlady · 8 months

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Ciel : *in the confessional of Weston* that is all I needed to report for now.

Sebastian : *on the priest side of the confessional* I will get to it right away.

Sebastian : .........

Ciel : ......

Sebastian : Sooooo. How do you like school young master, are you making friends? Are you having fun? Are the subjects interesting? :)

Ciel : Uhm, uh.. Who cares about that, Sebastian.

Sebastian : I understand......

Ciel :.....

Sebastian :.....

Sebastian : We don't really talk anymore those days, are you becoming ashamed of your old butler yet?

Ciel : Uh?

Sebastian : They told me it was about to happen... Ahh, now you're going to smoke in my back and gamble with shady people don't you...

Ciel : I COULD DIE!!! AND YOU'RE ALREADY PRETTY SHADY I THINK!! I'M BUSY IN SCHOOL!

#'its a confessional master you can tell me anything'#q #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #kuroshitsuji #nana is posting

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crowdemoninkinkyboots · 8 months

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ciel and sebastian finally kissing but ciel is the one who shoves his tongue in sebastian’s mouth/is just very aggressive. then sebastian responds with equal aggression + enthusiasm and shoves his tongue down ciels throat

#sebaciel #sebastian would be so happy to kiss his master <3 #ciel chokes and pushes him away and curses at him bc he’s embarrassed #but sebastian is sitting there like :>#if he had a tail it’d be wagging

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icantdothistodaybruh · 2 months

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I like to think how at some point Ciel relearns to embrace physical affection rather than run away from it, especially with Sebastian, to the point of it becoming his second nature.

An encouraging hand casually lying on his shoulder or back. A brush of lips to his temple while serving him tea. A grounding weight of Sebastian's body, ordered to sit idly on his master's lap much to ever busy butler's slight annoyance.

Basically Ciel going from "is it really necessary for him to touch me all the time??" to "it's nice, it calms me down, I shall probably just order him to do it from now on."

#was looking at last post and thought #how would they ever end up in that position? why???#so yea this is my answer to my own question #don't judge a woman for wanting some fluff in her life it's not a crime😔#btw sebastian would be absolutely smitten by ciel's change I think #just imagine him!! having such an *exclusive* way into his master's barricaded and impenetrable world #open for him and him alone #(also his ego will match the size of the earth I bet)#sebaciel #kuroshitsuji #black butler #ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #text

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kristen1216 · 2 months

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stephydrawsart_ created this masterpiece of myself with my favorite Black Butler characters Sebastian Michaelis, & Ciel Phantomhive! #CielPhantomhive #sebastianmichealis #demonbutlersebastian #demonbutler #blackbutler #imsimplyonehellofabutler #youngmaster

#ciel phantomhive #sebastian michaelis #demon butler #black butler #I’m simply one hell of a butler #young master #sebastian black butler

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purpleandstarlight · 10 months

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PoV: You're an assassin sent to kill the 13 yrs old Phantomhive Earl and his five (5) servants come out like:

#kuroshitsuji #black butler #ciel phantomhive #o!ciel #just realized i forgot abt Sebastian #fuck it he's taking a day off hes playing with Her hes not giving a shit about the young master atm #finny kuroshitsuji #mey rin #bardroy #kuroshitsuji Tanaka #kuroshitsuji snake #phantomfam

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burn-fire · 2 months

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Beta Shinigami and Makoto fanart sketch on paper (because yes)

(Spoiler on Makoto's unmasked face though I never really saw his beta design unmasked so I'm just gonna draw him without the mask in my style. On paper.)

Also, these are only the designs I like the most.

Enjoy this random cat

Shinibirdie (Shinigamgam)

Makoto

I saw a higher quality imagine of him in the red suit with gold embroidery and his other designs and saw that his hair actually looked like the Makoto Naegi in Trigger Happy Havoc and I love it.

#master detective archives: rain code #shinigami rain code #makoto kagutsuchi #beta designs #a fucking cat #Good god we could've had emo Naegi #Goth Shinigami #I just realized he looks like Ciel fucking Phantomhive #Old man with a comb-over

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judesmoonbeauty · 11 days

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Jude Jazza Creative Master List ☾.

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