I really need to sleep but anyway I'm obsessed with the raven man, with señor (don?) limdul and the fact that he's squatting in lilis mind or haunting or whatever he's doing

I love possession and haunting narratives ❤️😍❤️‍🔥

What's the limit of Vorthos character naming, in your opinion? Mirari became Memnarch; Narset of the Khans timeline and Narset of the Dragons timeline; Phage, Akroma, Karona, are all Jeska, that nonsense; Lim-Dul = Raven Man?; is there anything here that's off the table? Can you think of canon Magic lore that Vorthos "nonbo"s with?

If the two different named characters are clearly the evolution of the same being, it's all good for Vorthos.

When did the great barrier of Shandalar come down? I had assumed it was in the mending, but Ob Nixilis interacts with the chain veil before the mending. The dates don't seem to work out. An unknown amount of time after the Ice Age ended, we are told it will stay up for more than 1704 years. Ice Age ends in 2934. So if we assume Multiple generations lived and died in zero years, we get the barrier coming down in 4638, which is still in the future, right?

The number given at the end of the Microprose game is variable based on what you do in the game. If you were watching a video or only played through it once, you might not realize that. So the number given at the end isn't canon.

The Great Barrier falls somewhere between 2946 and 3560 AR. After Lim-Dul's War but before Nahiri is sealed in the Helvault.

bottom 10 magic (the) gathering?

Just some random pseudo-norse syllables

Perhaps just take two random syllables to create a nordic/scandinavian inspired name. Serndul, Binfern, Varslyn...

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ummmmm lim dul is a Bitch Ass Mother Fucker

Cornwall's Random Card of the Day #684: The Raven Man

For years, the Magic lore community was abuzz with the question "Who is the Raven Man?"

Then they found out it was Lim-Dul.

The Raven Man is a rare from Dominaria United. Okay, okay, so. Raven Man. He was the dude who gave Liliana the cure for her brother's illness when she was young that actually killed him and turned him into a zombie. Which sparked her planeswalker spark, and led her down the path of darkness and soul-mortgage she's been on ever since. And he showed up periodically to give her cryptic advice for most of her life. Everybody was wondering what was up with this dude, so the reveal it was just ol' Lim-Dul the necromancer from Ice Age was a pretty big letdown. Just another example of WotC fumbling the ball with the storyline.

As a card, this guy's pretty decent. Encourages discard while facilitating it, albeit poorly. You don't wanna spend 4 mana each turn just to negate enemy draws and get a bird. I mean, sometimes it's fine, but really, you want to pair him with some discard spells. Otherwise why would they have made him a 2 drop?

I guess technically he should be a zombie wizard, too, since he's some kinda undead maniac. That would give away the reveal, but they kinda just dumped it on the community anyhow, so, not much downside.

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If I cast Lim-Dûl's Vault with Vilis on the field and pay, let's say, 8 life to the Vault, Vilis's ability goes on the stack 8 times and starts resolving only after the Vault has finished resolving, thus drawing the top 8, among which I have the 5 chosen with the Vault; am I getting this right?

This is all correct and a cool interaction. :)

Shit I wanna write:

A Friend In Need (friends to friends with benefits, demi Gideon x grey-ace Liliana, canon divergent post RTD)

something something nuwalker!Liliana set in Ravnica, stalking by Lim-Dul, Kallist is also involved bc reasons

It would be funny af for me to write Liliana x Embrose or Liliana as Killian's mom lmao

The one where Saheeli makes tamales for Huatli because her gf is homesick and she is very much in love.

How long has R&D known that the Raven Man was Lim-Dul?

It depends which part of R&D you're asking about. There are a number of designers that would be surprised today if you told them who The Raven Man was. The story people, I assume, have known for a while.

Where can one find lore on lim dul?

Lim-Dûl is in:

Armada Comics: Ice Age #2-4

Armada Comics: Shandalar #1-2

Microprose Game Manual (Backstory is in there bridging the comic and the game)

Novel: The Gathering Dark (as Mairsil)

Novel: The Eternal Ice (reworking most of the Ice Age comics)

Novel: The Shattered Alliance (as Mairsil again… sort of)

So, here's the card art for Lim-Dul, Necromancer.

Gee, his right eye looks awfully bird-like. And is that possibly a feather motif in the shadows around him?

Here's a picture of The Raven Man:

You don't fool me, WOTC. Bolas is the one who ended Lim-Dul's last reign of terror, and if there's a chance Lim-Dul could get revenge, he's gonna take it, because that's the opportunistic strike-first mentality he inherited from his possession by Mairsil the Pretender. And after his spirit was released from the artifact powering the Great Barrier on Shandalar, it disappeared from history until Time Spiral. what's interesting is that while this was all happening on Shandalar, Jaya Ballard was slowly being infected by Mairsil's Ring, which carried spirits of both Mairsil... and Lim-Dul, so his spirit can be divided and remain functional.

Which means he's gonna start pushing his own agenda now that Bolas is out of the way and Liliana's curse is lifted (big dumb stupid idiot meathead lunk dummy, WHY, I WAS STARTING TO LIKE YOU.)

What, you thought I was joking when I said I know my MTG lore? I know it TOO well. That's the problem.