Like weren’t you all bitching and moaning about Jeff saying he didn’t want villains two weeks back? And now you’re throwing a hissy fit because Tiff and Kenzie made a fake idol?
A fake idol that they had to literally hand to Jess?
A fake idol that Jess was sketch of? But played anyway?
A fake idol that when played Jess smiled and laughed with Q the man who 100% betrayed her trust?
Like this is why Jeff doesn’t want villains. Because you children can’t handle what was literally nothing.
You all loved when Parvati and Cirie got a man to give up his immunity necklace and laugh in his face as he was walking out the door. But this is too much?
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now that ive finished it the righteous gemstones is obviously a really funny show that i liked very much but it’s kinda interesting how it ends up pulling its punches about evangelicalism im fully aware it’s a silly comedy and not trying to Do Messaging and yet. like it really lampshades the extreme wealth etc but it doesnt really wanna CONDEMN it… so then you get a a billionaire conservative megachurch pastor who does all these objectively pretty terrible things while ALSO having him be Flawed But Really Good At Heart and not hate gay people.. like wym? are these people abusive or not actually not really it’s fine…. Does the show actually understand the structural evil of evangelicalism or not. is it like, BAD to be a megachurch pastor manipulating the masses for monetary gain or does the power of love and family and good intentions and apologizing override that. you cant hate eli too much dont worry dont think about it he isnt homophobic so it’s fine. Okay so the satire is completely meaningless then and doesnt work
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Hey, I wasn't sure if I should say so or not in case it would be upsetting to you, but since you brought up the idea of a survey I thought I'd say that I have lost a parent & like you the current season of Succession has had a cathartic effect on me. I've also seen one person on twt say that's the case for them too, so I'm willing to bet a lot of ppl who've lost a parent feels similarly and like... Regardless of if it's a "good" season or not, I think media that helps me process my grief is a positive thing, it has value, or what have you. Obv it's fine for ppl to dislike the season, & ofc I don't wish others could exp that kind of loss, but like 🤷🏻♀️ sometimes things don't resonate with you until you've experienced smth, & sometimes that happens when you're 0-10, sometimes when you're 50-60
yeah, i started noticing a gap in reactions after connor's wedding between people saying 'that felt far too much like my own experience with a parent/family member dying' and people who acknowledged the skillful execution of the episode but didn't seem to personally connect to it (which generated a couple takes on logan's death and the perceived indignity of it that rubbed me the wrong way, lol). on the one hand my continued posting about the Discourse is because it's aggravating to me, like why is the hot topic of fan discussion 'is the show we're all watching even good?' ??? but on the other, it's genuinely just confusing to me and i'm trying to understand what i'm missing. the minor criticisms that people have cited as the root cause of their dissatisfaction don't add up to me. they feel much more like things that are only noticeable/irritating if you already have some fundamental issue or disconnect with the season.
and i think it really is that this is a season about grief and only about grief, there's no space for anything else. the emotional arcs in other seasons were usually related but distinct - you could focus in on what you liked in particular, whether that was kendall's mental breakdown, roman's freudian mess, shiv's struggle to be taken seriously as a woman, shiv and tom's failmarriage, tom and greg's weirdness, and there'd be enough material for you to chew on and have a good time without worrying all that much about everything else (although i do think being able to understand how all of these connect improves your experience of the show immensely, but i digress).
s4 is about grief. everyone is reacting to logan's death in different ways, but it all comes back to grief. if you're interested in talking about grief, there's so much to explore. if you don't find that engaging, then you're out of luck. it's fine to not find that engaging because you wanted something else out of the season/show, but that doesn't make the season objectively bad or subject to flaws that weren't already present throughout the rest of the show. and yeah, based on my reaction and the reactions of other people i've seen who have that personal experience with death, i think it's a really spectacular depiction of loss and grief that handles all the complex emotions involved with more thought and care than i've seen in other media. it would not be as accurate or impactful a depiction of grief if time and space was spent on something completely unrelated.
i don't think you need to have lost a close family member to connect to the storyline, but i also don't think you can understand what it's like until it happens in your own life. it fucked me up badly when my aunt died in middle school because she had been a major part of my childhood, but the degree to which my dad dying fundamentally altered my life is just incomparable to anything else. you really cannot experience grief as a concept or thought experiment, a person's death is real and permanent in a way nothing else really is. which sounds obvious but it's just true
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SLASHED | Day 03. The Bad Girl
Jessica McIntosh was blessed abundantly by the puberty Gods toward the end of her 8th grade year: somewhere between the cleared-up skin and a final growth spurt that gave her legs for daaaays, she found herself rising in the ranks within her high school's superficial hierarchy. After years of planning dances, curating aesthetics, donning crowns and sashes, dating bonehead jock after bonehead jock, and enduring conditional friendships, Jess realized her worst fear was coming to life: she was becoming just like her parents. But Jess is smart and always has been - she's observative and notices when things begin to shift and fall apart before most people do. She noticed when her true friends began to distance themselves, when the exchange of popularity and power came at the expense of the people she cared about, when people decided she changed so they didn't want to be around her any more. But who said that someone couldn't have it all? Why couldn't she have it all? Looks aside, growing up an only child in a loveless home with distant parents made her crave affection and validation from others, and for most of her life that validation came from her childhood best friends, the Baker twins - especially Dani Baker. So Jess, accustomed to always getting her way, proposed a fun little get-together with some former classmates she was close to before the glow up and offered them a trip, a weekend-long party, and she knew they wouldn't refuse. If she were honest with herself though, she would admit that the whole weekend - and the inclusion of certain invitees - was just bait to attract the Bakers.
Losing the people she regarded as her true, found family tarnished her entire high school experience and caused an immeasurable, ever-growing amount of grief: she intends to remedy that loss by whatever means necessary.
Status: Dead...?💀
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the thing is while literati and rogan shippers may be divided on rory's situation in s6 and the way both boys responded to it, i see the merit of both sides (although i could be biased since i very obviously ship both). and in the context of this episode specifically, 6x08 when looking at writing and characterization, i'm a big fan of how things play out.
because jess really does know rory as he claims to even if he obviously has made terrible choices with her in the past and hurt her badly (and let's keep in mind that while his actions were horrible and inexcusable, he was an immature TEEN at the time of their relationship and has clearly learned from his mistakes and matured a lot since then, to the point where rory is actually happy to see him and reconnect in a platonic capacity). because they are friends and he cares about her, because they have the type of relationship where they cheer for the other's successes, she supports the actions that he's taken to make something better for his life. and he chooses to support rory too, calling her out on her stagnant life that she's living at the moment and encouraging her to reclaim what she worked so hard for. he knows that she's lost and dejected, not following her passions/goals, not taking her ambitions seriously. and yes, i do agree that it's a bit unfair for him to have approached the situation that way and claimed to know what's best for her/yell at her especially as he hasn't had consistent presence in her life recently, but it does lead rory to a pivotal breakthrough and helps her turn things around for herself and pursue what she feels is the correct path, at last momentarily.
but that's not where the story ends either. when she confronts logan about her recent lifestyle, how it compares to his opportunities/privilege and the struggles he faces when dealing with that, and how they spend their time together drinking and partying (all of which are great themes to explore on their own), they get into what is a very important fight for them. logan reminds her that she has as much privilege and opportunity as him, that she's the one making the choices she does, and that he respects and supports those choices. he also heatedly reminds her that she has as much power to reclaim what she's lost, that she can choose to live whichever life she wants and he isn't preventing her from doing that. instead, he's simply being supportive and respecting her decisions, not coercing or being a "bad influence" on her.
while both men were making poor decisions this episode (logan being an excessive drunk and unnecessarily antagonizing jess in an immature display of jealousy, jess presuming to know what is best for rory), they were also really important to not only enriching rory's storyline but understanding all three of them as characters, imo. both sides of the rogan versus literati fandoms can argue against the other man's behavior this episode (and both sides would make a convincing point) but it's meaningless to debate who is the better love interest because that's not the point here, at least in the context of this episode and how it drives the plot. the point is that both relationship dynamics and both characters, romance drama aside, were integral to rory realizing what she wanted and proactively making decisions to drive her own success. and in the end, it was rory who regained agency, rory who took charge of her life, which neither love interests deserve credit for. however, i do appreciate that they both did play their part in helping her get there.
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callout post for @mountain-deweys /@ohromes how DARE you say hadestown is a better musical than fiddler on the roof. i know where you live you better watch your fucking back. how DARE you slander fiddler like that. i invite you into my jewish home and feed you and watch terrible tv with you in my basement and you diss my entire ETHNICITY??? i will literally tell my mom on you she’s going to be so disappointed in you she loves you like a son and you BETRAY MY MOTHER????
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