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nyaskitten · 5 months

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Okay, after a bit, I've realized what exactly is off with Zhen to me. It's not the voice (although Awkwafina's voice is... very grating to put it as politely blunt as possible,) no, it's the overall design. I'm not here to be all nitpicky and annoying, but genuinely, her design feels out of place in this universe. Kung Fu Panda's designs are so heavily shape-focused, their shapes and sizes are so unique and special to them! So when you bring someone like Zhen, who looks ripped straight from Zootopia, it just feels... lame. And It's not like this applies to ANY of the new characters we see either!!! Look at the Chameleon vs. Zhen!

The Chameleon has this unique shape to her, she's so skinny, her shape intentionally reduces her fear factor, she's small and puny, so thus she would also be weak, no? But you're WRONG, she's a more powerful threat than you could imagine! Meanwhile with Zhen I can't even tell if she's a fox or a wolf, like I had to go to the wiki just to find out she's even a fox!

All her design tells me about her is she's some bandit or something... again, Kung Fu Panda is KNOWN for its unique shapes and sizes, it's stylization is something to gawk and marvel at, with just how GOOD they are... and Zhen just doesn't deliver... which really sucks, especially if the theory of her being the new "Dragon Warrior" is true...

#she feels more like a spin-off show character than a movie character iykwim?#also hate that theyre repeating the kfp 2 character arc ..#i LOVE being optimistic ab things...#but idk kfp 4 please dont crash and burn...#kung fu panda #kung fu panda 4 #kfp 4 #kfp spoilers #kung fu panda spoilers #raine's rambles

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ric505 · 1 month

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KUNG FU PANDA

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bloatmaxchu · 19 days

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Is it weird that I find Zhen hot...?

idk its probably the cute face, big fluffy tail, sweet voice, and dorky personality I love so much about her.....

She's pretty ngl...

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misterrttegrimborn · 9 days

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!BIG SPOILERS! Kung fu panda 4

(my edit)

#kfp #kung fu panda 4 #edit kung fu panda #kfp po #kfp tigress #kfp lord shen #kfp kai #kfp zhen #kfp chameleon #kfp tai lung #tai lung #kfp spoilers #spoilers!

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nebula-award · 2 months

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Please please PLEASE tell me I’m not the only one who sees the parallels

#I been thinking about this nonstop since I left the theater yesterday #also if you see me reblogging kfp months later #it’s because my fixation is being sent to queue purgatory #kfp 4 #kfp #spoilers #kfp spoilers #kfp4 spoilers #kfp 4 spoilers

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eldragon-x · 2 months

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gang we can still get a tai lung redemption arc out of this hes on the movie cover for a reason

#kfp spoilers

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friendlynova · 2 months

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I want to applaud everyone that worked on Kung Fu Panda 4 for their efforts.

But it’s really baaaad 😭😭😭😭

#kfp spoilers #I was tricked into having hope #like why would they do thiiiiiiis #TAI LUNG BARELY SHOWED UP?#SHEN AND KAI HAD IT EVEN WORSE #kung fu panda 4 #kung fu panda

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emiemi345 · 8 months

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so i'm not really invested in any of the characters in kfp dragon knight but i certainly wasn't expecting THAT ONE to die

#original post #kung fu panda: the dragon knight #kung fu panda the dragon night #kfp dragon knight #kung fu panda #kfp spoilers #kung fu panda spoilers #kung fu panda dragon night #minor musings

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lovewillthaw-j · 2 months

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Kung Fu masters

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nyaskitten · 5 months

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btw i watched the kfp 4 trailer . its good, but im confused on the lack of the furious five .. mantis my babygirl... come back :(

#kung fu panda #kung fu panda 4 #kfp 4 #kfp spoilers #kung fu panda spoilers

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cbs-scorpion-coffee-shop · 1 month

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Just saw Kung Fu Panda 4. I'm just gonna say it:

It is viscerally mediocre.

The only upside to it is that because of it, an idea for a much better Kung Fu Panda 4 violated all my boundaries and got into my head on its own. It has much better character development, a much better plot, and a much much MUCH better antagonist.

If this post gets 10 notes, I'll write it.

>>Continuation

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creaman · 1 month

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—BECAUSE KUNG FU PANDA 4 KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY?

To preface, I watched this movie and I'm genuinely tweaking right now so I had to write down a very brief (lie) criticism on this film — which you should boycott, by the way.

Starting with the things I liked, before briefing my primary points of criticism:

Po's Character Regression

Po and Zhen's Dynamic

The Chameleon

I'd also yap about Lord Shen and the death of the art style and the entire narrative and pacing and use of the staff of wisdom but my therapist says being such a hater is 'unhealthy' or something. My heart is full of hatred.

SPOILERS for the entirety KFP4 for the 2 people who care.

KFP4 undermines and ignores the previous three movies — Unwriting character developments, outright removing the Furious Five, straying from the character design philosophies and is completely inconsistent with the established lore.

Things I Liked About Kung Fu Panda 4

The Chameleon's character design

Visual gag in the Tavern where Po uses a recently thrown axe as a hat rack (made me laugh)

When Mr. Ping did this:

so cute! the little heart!

Po — Character Writing

Po, as established in the previous movies, is confident in his abilities and identity — he’s learnt inner peace, he’s matured as a character. However, in KFP4, his character has completely regressed. He’s immature again (such as KFP1, possibly worse) and says verbatim, “only knows kicking butt and taking names” — UNLEARNING inner peace and insisting that “…being the Dragon Warrior is all I know.”

It’s childish, and sort of Hotel Transylvania-esque.

Which isn’t helped by the comedy, the dialogue — a large chunk of which are jokes in the style of:

Master Shifu says something philosophical

Po quips off of it / doesn’t get it (i.e. Whoa!! beat I don’t know what that means.)

Oh, it’s great, yeah, very tolerable. Po’s shenanigans are normally reeled in by the presence of the Furious Five who are generally more serious in nature, creating a much needed balance in the dynamic — So without them, it’s just Po becoming increasingly obnoxious and insufferable with every consecutive quip throughout the screenplay.

Po and Zhen — Character Dynamics

[No more graphics sorry I'm too angry]

As if it wasn’t obvious that Zhen was going to be the next Dragon Warrior the second she was introduced.

Zhen, as a character, has no depth besides being a quippy thief. She quips, she steals. This character has no motives — it can be assumed that the writers intended on a ‘change of heart’ thing, but she isn’t established as evil, her working for the Chameleon is written as a (albeit poor) twist reveal.

By which point, her taking either side wouldn’t make sense, given that she has shown no loyalty or attachment to either Po nor the Chameleon.

The movie artificially strengthens their bond by having Zhen start opening up about her backstory out of nowhere for no reason but they have done nothing to grow closer to each other.

Small tangent, her backstory is exactly what you’d expect it to be with no subversions or even emotional weight. Woe is me I was so small and hungry I had to steal to survive. Glossed over in about a minute.

The majority of the dialogue between Zhen and Po is spoken exposition — explaining how powerful and badass the Chameleon is, explaining how ‘we have to go here to do that’ and ‘this place was cool until the Chameleon did such and such’, and the rest of their time together is spent engaging in filler chase sequences and fight scenes.

The Chameleon

Where do I even start…

This is where it becomes apparent that the movie relies heavily on telling rather than showing —

She is the weakest villain by far, not only in universe but as a written character; which is particularly disheartening because I genuinely adore her character design and feel as though a shapeshifting character has great potential.

The movie artificially inflates her power by insisting through exposition that this is the most capable antagonist thus far (lie).

The audience is TOLD by Zhen and various restaurant patrons that the Chameleon is a powerful shapeshifting sorceress and that she 'dominates the city' whilst the film does nothing to showcase this.

'Dominating the city' meaning letting her henchpeople run amock and bully the civilians just like Lord Shen's wolves in KFP2... uninspired.

I just realised they didn't even give her a NAME what the FUCK is going on

She describes HERSELF as ruthless, clever and unsentimental when comparing Zhen to herself.

She says HERSELF that she’s “Stronger than every opponent you’ve ever faced.”

Let’s see what vile reprehensible things she’s done, shall we?

Gently push someone down some stairs

Her first appearance is through Zhen’s exposition, as opposed to the dramatic and memorable entrances of the previous villains. Her motives or character aren’t established until the final third of the film. She doesn’t even FIGHT anybody until the final third of the film; and even then, her fight sequences are uninspired and she never really poses a real threat. (She goes down in two hits.)

That being said, WE CAN STILL SAVE HER GUYS WE CAN STILL GET HER OUTTA THERE I'M COMING FOR YOU CHAMELEON I'M GONNA DRAFT YOU A PROPER BACKSTORY AND MOTIVE AND YOU'RE GONNA BE THE MOST THREATENING VILLAIN THUS FAR

There's a scene after the climax of the film where all the kung fu masters and previous villains from the spirit realm bow to Po. I'm not going to provide my thoughts on this because I fear I may burst a blood vessel. Good day!

Closing Statements

To put it simply, Kung Fu Panda 4 was my Megamind 2.

The film rejects its predecessors in every way. It really feels as though they brought in somebody with no prior knowledge of the franchise to direct the movie.

It's a film that relies heavily on telling rather than showing — banking on the previous three movies to carry it through the box office.

It's just really disheartening to see studio execs turn one of the best franchises into a safe sequel cash grab and regress every character's development.

Nevertheless. I do adore the chameleon's character design so I might do my own take on her character.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no fairy godmother, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no kung fu panda 4.

#creaman talks to drywall #kung fu panda 4 #spoilers #I'm actually tweaking #sorry I stopped drawing the graphics because the film crushed my soul #you drive me to drink kung fu panda 4 #when the rantsona crosses their arms #hating on main #kfp #discussion #criticism #kfp4 #technically a vent post #i've lost it #the chameleon #zhen #po

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awestruck-atrophy · 2 months

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missed opportunity to let Gary Oldman bitch about being stuck in a room full of kung fu masters. the very thing he wanted to destroy. additional missed opportunity to let Shen show up and have the chameleon fucking fail to take his kung fu. he doesn’t have any kung fu abilities mf fights with a sword and daggers and a fucking cannon he would be like “bitch you WISH”

they would have tea and talk abt metalworking

#kung fu panda 4 #lord Shen #Shen #the chameleon #kfp 4 #kung fu panda spoilers #atrophy says stuff

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icekingofhope · 5 months

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SPOILERS FOR KUNG FU PANDA 4

MOTHERFUCKERS TAI LUNGS BACK!!!