#just saying fuck the feanorians that's fun too but I like to have it all
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I really like the idea of Ulmo subtly interacting with Elwing even before he turned her into a bird. Growing up on the coast, maybe she falls asleep to the sound of waves that could also be the tune of a lullaby. Or she hears whispers of reassurance and comfort in the crashing, gurgling sea, and the waves carry her like a parent when she swims.
#the silmarillion#elwing#tolkien#ulmo#silm#we were always meant to say goodbye#headcanons#🌟 txt#It adds another element to her jumping into the ocean - if she instinctively associates it with safety and comfort#In a moment that reminds her as much of being a child on the run and scared for her life#as the third kinslaying#where else would she go. not to take away from her#just saying fuck the feanorians that's fun too but I like to have it all#I like the foreboding also in this headcanon. Ulmo knows her destiny! And he wants to comfort a lonely little girl.#So he sings to her to prepare her but also out of niceness
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Hi hello, here have an excuse to talk about murdoc harfoot-brandybuck of the easterly inn <3
jaz i love you so much you KNOW i have been waiting for someone to send me this EXACT ask. how the FUCK do i explain the character i have been playing for three years now.
so murdoc harfoot brandybuck of the easterly inn is my player character from my friend group's adventures in middle earth campaign (loving referred to as the mirkwood campaign), gmed by the absolutely wonderful @potatoobsessed999. he's very much still evolving, even as we get closer to the campaign's conclusion, as he absolutely has been over the last three years, but i will attempt to describe him, is he is my absolute favorite of my (like two) tolkien ocs, and may very well be my favorite oc of mine of all time at this point.
murdoc, as his name makes apparent, is a hobbit. he has been raised by his uncles and aunt, a family of upper-class inkeepers, as the heir apparent of the family inn. before i knew anything else about who i wanted him to be, or who he was going to become, murdoc was meant to embody the idea of home. he's creature-comfort, he's hospitality in its purest form, he's the maker of stews and the finder of comfortable places to sleep and the brewer of teas. this is the absolute core of who murdoc is: where he is is his home, and who he's with are his people, and he will do absolutely anything and everything to keep it all safe.
when murdoc was about the hobbit equivalent of a teenager, his more adventurous uncle got it into his head that he too should have a great big adventure just like his drinking buddy and idol bilbo baggins, and up and moved the family inn out of the shire and to a northern corner of mirkwood.
when murdoc was about the hobbit equivalent of, say, a human eighteen-year-old, he began to have extremely disturbing prophetic dreams.
so what do you do when you're a foresighted hobbit in the middle of a famously dangerous forest whose aforementioned foresight has every last bit of you screaming that it is now your responsibility to keep this place and everyone in it safe? you join an adventuring party, serve as an emissary of radagast the brown, have a sort of falling out with radagast the brown over realizing that his boss is evil and nobody believes you yet, adopt the ghost of actual maedhros feanorion (who is possessing your best friend's sword, as one does) as your new dad, and do a bunch of arson and protective rage murder as you develop greater and greater paranoia about whether you will be able to see coming the threats you will need to see in order to keep the people you care about alive!!!!!!
some more fun things about murdoc, in no particular order:
yes the fact that his name is Like That is on purpose. he's a pretentious piece of shit who named himself. his name is extremely reflective of the fact that he is just Like That. (also his partner is a huge nerd who got way into hobbit history around the time murdoc was picking his name and it is just as cute as it is stupid)
languages that murdoc speaks, in the order in which he learned them, include: westron, fucking spider, quenya, and sindarin. he has the most perfect most annoying feanorian accent when speaking in quenya. yes, i rolled to determine this.
(in murdoc's defense, he learned quenya because he wanted maedhros to be able to speak his first language with someone, and it was something to bond over.)
maedhros helped a very afraid and traumatized murdoc begin to interface with his foresight by acting as an anchor point for him while dreaming, to help him develop greater control over what he sees in them and to use his foresight on purpose.
murdoc did use the realization that this meant that he can see maedhros in his dreams as an immediate opportunity to hug him ;w;
murdoc's foresight cannot see nazgûl. anna, my beloved gm, has used this for effect emotional and horrific.
murdoc harfoot brandybuck of the easterly inn does in fact introduce himself to everyone he meets as "murdoc harfoot brandybuck of the easterly inn"
this resulted in murdoc being put on the entire-ass council of mirkwood because everyone assumed that this was an important title and the easterly inn must be a small fiefdom
murdoc did not correct anyone about the fact that the easterly inn is very much not a small fiefdom
murdoc has a +13 intimidation, making it his highest stat. i'm not sure what stats our gm gave to @jaz-the-bard for maedhros, but we have talked about it at some point and murdoc's is apparently higher
murdoc has a feat that lets him vanish into thin air. it's not magic or anything. he's extremely not a ringbearer. he's just That sneaky.
has a rivalry with one of The Eagles^tm. over hospitality.
fire motif fire motif fire motif
his primary weapon is an enchanted dwarven bow. he shoots flaming arrows.
lover of a good molotov cocktail to solve all his problems very fast
special interests include teas, cooking, and linguistics!! likes to research all the local plants and come up with tea brews that remind him of people or places, or pair well with certain things. came up with a brew for himself that he only shares with people he trusts and cares deeply for. i do in fact have little snippets for points at which he has shared it with each member of the party.
i did once storyboard an edgy animatic for him to the killers' jenny was a friend of mine. i am still very proud of it, and lament that i cannot animate. or do art at all.
i have been playing this character through a literal global pandemic, the completion of two entire degrees, my first adult job, and literally so much other life stuff. sometimes i think about how long i've had him for and how much he's changed, very organically, in that time, and get entirely too emotional about him tbh.
murdoc operates, i would say, from a very genuine sense of care for others, eclipsed by a rather marked lack of estel. for about the whole three years i've had him, i would say i've felt genuinely none from him, and i did not think it was there.
the last time i played him however, i did.
anyhow!!!!! this post would not be complete without this lovely art of our party - i don't know that the artist we commissioned is on tumblr, but "hey can i share this?" was met with an enthusiastic "go for it!" so!! on top is my boy, and left to right down are the bearer (@thymo-leonta), déorwyn (@shadowkat2000), ríros (@jaz-the-bard, who also plays maedhros), and ioreth (not canon ioreth jdjdndn, whose player is definitely not on tumblr).
anyhow i love my party and this game and my friends and my stupid murder arson hobbit inkeeper boy so so very much <33333
and thank you jaz for literally just giving me an opportunity to talk about him lmao, get you friends who send you asks about your ocs even though they literally know so much about your ocs >:p <33
#i am SO proud of my boy ;ww;#i based him off of bilbo initially but. he’s so so maedhros coded tbh#also he's just tumblr sexyman bait i'll be real#but like#what everyone WISHES tumblr sexymen were#he'd cook for you he'd take care of you. he's also covered in blood and surrounded in flames and full of murderous rage!#he's EVEN transgender. what MORE could you want???#anyhow i ALWAYS want to talk about him so!!!!!!!!!!!#please keep asking me things i could talk about our d&d campaign literally ALL day#mirkwood campaign#nelyo askbox#i am going to come back to add in artist commission info if i can get it! haven't talked to them in a while but#i know them from undergrad. i'll find out if they're still active!!
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Some Modern AU headcannons for Silmarillion elves (+some non elves) that just make sense to me
I ended up writing quite a few dot points, so I'll put them under a Keep Reading thing lol
- Maglor falls into the habit of using pens as hairband replacements while song writing
- Curufin has yet to figure out how to do the pen-messy-bun hair trick and it infuriates him. Even more so when Celebrimbor figures out how to do it first try
- Turgon wears exclusively monochrome outfits, and Argon refuses to wear matching socks
- Annatar sends Celebrimbor mis-info tumblr heritage posts like Alexandria's Genesis and Celebrimbor falls for it every. single. time
- Feanor and Morgoth have an ongoing heated Twitter feud
- Nerdanel asks why Feanor doesn't block just Morgoth and Olorin thinks it's hilarious free entertainment
- In truth, the only account Feanor has blocked is Fingolfin's
- Galadriel and the Feanorian twins made up their own secret language, which they later taught to Fingon too
- In every family photo posted to social media by his siblings, Maedhros, without fail, will have the top of his head cropped out
- Glorfindel sends Ecthelion the wackiest memes and shit
- Idril once called Maeglin "sus" at a family gathering and there's been no peace since
- Galadriel definitely directly @'s politicians on Twitter and calls them fucking stupid
- Nerdanel has a YouTube channel dedicated to sculpting
- Her sons all watch every single one of her videos and frequently appear in her videos
- Celegorm tried to take Luthien to court once over ownership of Huan. Now Celegorm gets Huan on weekends.
- The zoom calls omg
- Feanor hasn't attended since the very first
- Fingon hosts and regularly takes advantage of the Mute Other People Power but will innocently deny it if confronted
- Aredhel is the only one, to this day, who has figured out how zoom filters and backgrounds work
- Gil Galad and Elrond built a treehouse which was later invaded by Celebrian and Thranduil
- They find Beleg and Turin living under it at one point and all decide to just not say anything
- Glorfindel is the certified owner of the "I lived, bitch" meme
- Beren once ate dirt unironically because he was too tired to realise that it wasn't a cup of coffee beans
- As a result of this, Thingol is literally horrified to learn that Beren eats raw coffee beans
- The real reason that Feanor is on bad terms with Fingolfin is because Fingolfin found Feanor's Tumblr account when they were teenagers and leaked it to the whole family group chat
- Maeglin's a movie nerd and knows every line from his favourite franchises, as well as all the obscure behind-the-scenes fun facts
- Finarfin, bless him, still has no idea how social media works but his kids all assure him that that's a good thing
- There's a Discord server.
- There's also a secret Discord server for the least problematic of the elves. Nerdanel started it. There aren't many members.
- And there's a Maia Only group chat that has never had a single peaceful moment, ever
- No one has seen Caranthir in years because he moved to another country the moment he was legally allowed to, but he still appears every now and again in the Discord chat to react to various messages that have nothing to do with him
- One time when Maedhros and Maglor were babysitting Elrond and Elros, Fingon dropped by and ended up teaching the twins how to braid ribbons into their hair
- Beren and Finrod often go on forest + mountain walks
- Luthien and Huan will go with them sometimes
- Someone made an anonymous account to send Game of Thrones memes to Turin. He has yet to figure out who it is. (Spoiler alert: it's Olorin).
- Regular debates between Grey's Anatomy watchers (Celegorm and Curufin) and Scrubs watchers (Galadriel) while the rest of the group chat has to watch
- Sometimes Amrod and Amras will google Good Doctor references to throw into the debates just to stir things up even more
- Celebrimbor and Nerdanel collabs on YouTube
- Annatar hates this because Nerdanel is actually a non-manipulative craft partner to Celebrimbor, but Annatar can't say anything about it because Celebrimbor loves his grandma. Annatar is losing his mind
- Annatar ends up making a whole YouTube channel about craft making purely to spite Nerdanel but honestly she couldn't give a single shit what he thinks lmao. Celebrimbor is blissfully unaware
- Feanor exclusively uses a typewriter because he thinks it makes him look sophisticated
- Melian exclusively uses a typewriter because she thinks it's funny
- Luthien refuses to drink coffee
- No one in Fingolfin's house can drive
- Fingon is the closest, but he just has an electric scooter
- Idril knows everyone's zodiacs
- Galadriel is a tax evader and no one has intervened yet because she's scary
- Maeglin probably tried to start an emo band at one point, and when that failed, he turned to doing acoustic covers of Evanescence songs in the subway
- Glorfindel once got his hair stuck in an escalator
- Ecthelion nearly laughed himself into unconsciousness and Glorfindel had to walk around with a mullet for like three months before his hair started to grow out again
- Thingol likes using the phrase "Back In My Day"
- Elwing pronounces "memes" as "me-mes". So does Maedhros. Therefore, so does Elrond.
- Maglor pronounces "memes" correctly, but he doesn't bring it up because he thinks it's funny
- Everyone in Feanor, Fingolfin and Finarfin's houses has little ribbon phone/ bag accessories that Fingon and Curufin made for them
#there's also an ongoing and extreme twitter doxing war between literally every single character#morgoth keeps trying to convince the elves to become anti-maskers but none of them fall for it#bit of a long post but if you know the characters then ur used to reading long works of fiction so I figure it's fine#tolkien#the silmarillion#the silm#modern au
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So I was once again thinking about the Ñoldo and the Feanorian’s & Finwean’s in general (and about how much I love hurting them in AU’s) and do u remember when Morgoth killed Finwe and had the opportunity to just dispose of all of Feanor’s sons but just didn’t? Well, what do u think would happen in a world where he did kill all of Feanor’s sons when he was killing Finwe & stealing the Silmallris?
Feanor obviously loses his fucking mind even more than in canon but I imagine that he’s not as worried about the Silmallris in this one, right? And i think everyone is just a little more down with revenge this time around? Either things are going to be a lot easier for Morgoth without The Feanorians around or they’re a lot worse bc the Noldor are more United about why they’re sailing and bc Feanor has probably turned all of his mind power in creating something that can destroy™️? Idk if the first kin slaying still happens bc in one hand is easier to understand why someone wants to go fight a god if they killed their sons than when they want to go look for jewelry but I’m the other hand this Feanor is like 200% more feral & unhinged that he ever was in canon
I played with a similar idea a little in Can’t Live With ‘Em, Can’t Time Travel Without ‘Em when (spoiler) Morgoth kills three of Feanor’s sons in the process of stealing the Silmarils and captures three of the others. That story does have several key divergences from your proposal, however - Finwe is still alive, Feanor has the hope of rescuing at least three of his sons, and he has the advantage of hindsight and planning to give him some more options.
So what would be different with this AU?
Feanor is king. Feanor is not really in a great mindset to be king, but Nolofinwe (a) would feel like a jerk for arguing the point at the moment, (b) is pretty convinced that feral!Feanor would kill him if he tried to argue the point at the moment, and (c) is very aware that it would be really poor optics to argue the point at the moment. Instead, he is just . . . trying to be helpful and supportive behind the scenes. And also mourning his father’s death and his nephews, because while he may not have lost his sons, he still lost some of his family.
Arafinwe sticks with them. Both because (a) there is a limit to how much he can let go, and (b) because this kingship is a powder keg and he feels a responsibility to not let it explode.
Nerdanel is coming along. She’s not speaking to Feanor, but she’s coming. (She is not speaking civilly to Feanor. They have had several shouting matches, at least one of which ended with both of them sobbing in each other’s arms, but they Do Not Talk About That.)
Fingon is Extremely Feral.
Is Celebrimbor still alive? If he’s still alive, he’s about to get the coveted Most Overprotected Member of this Army slot.
Alqualonde could go a number of different ways, but this AU is already depressing enough, so let’s say Olwe is “unwilling” to “lend” the Noldor his boats. The Noldor do not quite understand what, exactly, he means by this until they show up to steal the boats only to find them unguarded and also, incidentally, already stocked and prepared for launch.
Feanor swears an Oath to destroy Morgoth or die trying. This is still technically a bad idea, but it is less of a bad idea than his canonical oath.
With the brothers all keep wary eyes on each other, we’re able to prevent any suicidal charges *cough*Feanor*cough*Fingolfin*cough.
Hey, here’s a fun thought experiment! What if Fingolfin ended up outliving all of his children too?
Finarfin has one (1) daughter left. He thinks. He hopes. No one actually has any idea where she is.
In good news, though, with Melian and a couple of other Maiar’s help, they do end up winning the war, so that’s.
Something.
Feanor’s Oath is fulfilled which he is almost a little disappointed by because he was secretly hoping to destroy Morgoth and die trying.
Fingolfin understands this feeling.
Finarfin says this family is going to survive whether they like it or not.
Feanor points out that one of Finarfin’s sons came back after like. Two weeks. He doesn't get to comment.
Someone asks Namo if he can please, please, pretty please go ahead and release everyone because now that Morgoth is down, the Noldor are eying Mandos, and no one even really needs to ask if the king of the Noldor is crazy enough to do it.
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Elwing and Celebrimbor for the for the character asks?
Did Elwing already, so Celebrimbor! @feanorianethicsdepartment asked for him too!
How I feel about this character
Um, my favorite. No, I really love him. Like Elwing, it was the cinematics that originally made him stick out (the banner and St Sebastian imagery - interesting that he may be the only true martyr figure in Tolkien? I can't think of another one.)
He's fairly unusual as a Tolkien character in that he explicitly wants to make the world a better place; most of the heroes (and antiheroes) are people who fight against the darkness to try to keep the world from becoming worse. Some of that is likely just a function of the time period when he was an active character, but that curiosity and skill and ambition melded with a vision that is genuinely good is appealing. (Which is not to say that his vision is without its weaknesses and faults, but the love of the world, the desire to heal it, is absolutely there.)
All the people I ship romantically with this character
Celebrimbor/Sauron is my OTP. Shadows of Mordor opened me to the potential that is silvergifting, and I immediately opened up ao3 and here I am, writing porn about the Lord of the Rings and the guy he tortured to death.
(Quick review of that game: it is lorelol - no, like it would be difficult to make the lore worse - and the four fridgings are overmuch. But the game play is fun and it is astonishingly shippy - Sauron's one and only motivation is to get Celebrimbor to come back to him. Seriously.)
Fond of him with Celeborn/Galadriel too (unsolicited fic rec).
Some day I will manifest Annatar/Celebrimbor/Galadriel into existence.
My non-romantic OTP for this character
Celebrían! I headcanon that it was her, not Celeborn, that stayed in Eregion when Galadriel left (and, uh, given her and Celebrimbor's diplomatic talents, they were damn lucky that Annatar was there...) and that they reconnected in Valinor.
My unpopular opinion about this character
Hmmm. I'm not sure I have any truly unpopular opinions? Though I am very definitely on the "Celebrimbor wasn't an idiot" side and I think that welcoming Sauron and making the Rings genuinely was the best timeline - it was Sauron's poor life choices that made everything go terribly wrong, not Celebrimbor's (well, ok, best timeline is Sauron not failing his repentance, but that's on him). (Also, fucking Sauron is not actually the worst life choice a Finwean has made and isn't that saying a lot.)
Otherwise, I don't go for the born in Valinor version and I most definitely do not go for one big happy Feanorian family. My personal backstory is that he didn't know his non-Celegorm and Huan uncles well - I'm not sure he even met Amras and Amrod - and that he and Maedhros did not get along and that there's no love lost on Celebrimbor's side. General backstory is that he renounced his Noldorin heritage, not just the Feanorian one, after Nargothrond (or Doriath) and went around calling himself a Sinda and Penadar. Reconciled with it over the first few centuries of the 2nd Age.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
As usual, I'm happy with the canon story. This is partly because I am very good at imagining post-canon happy endings and am writing one right now. I view it as very decidedly post-canon and not at all an AU.
I would like to know how and when he attached himself to Galadriel and Celeborn. He's associated strongly with them in all the different backstories and, at least before Annatar shows up, said to be a friend of theirs, though it seems to go south. I go with very early 2nd Age, and I think the politics of Gil-Galad/Círdan/Elrond on one pole and Galadriel/Celeborn/Celebrimbor on another are interesting.
I'd also be interested in explorations of Tolkien's different backgrounds. Like, how the heck does "descendent of Daeron" work. (Presumably even more of a dwarven connection, and I like the non-craft scholarship it brings to him.)
#thank you guys for all the asks! it is a delightful and welcome aid in procrastination#celebrimbor#fortuitousraven#feanorianethicsdepartment#ask#meta#headcanons
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What do you think of High King Gil Galad (son of Fingon or not) taking Celebrimbor as a sex slave?
Oh I like this! There's so many times it would be interesting - in the late first age, in the centuries before Ost-in-Edhil was founded, anytime after it's revealed that Annatar is Sauron...
Let's go with the first age. In Nargothrond, Orodreth made it clear that his people were not to blame Celebrimbor for his uncle's actions in the city, which were, after all, mostly not criminal.
Celebrimbor manages to survive the fall of Nargothrond, and flee to Sirion. Crown Prince Gil-Galad has just come of age on Balar.
Then the survivors arrive from Doriath. Celebrimbor stops leaving his house at night.
The refugees from Gondolin arrive. Gil-Galad is crowned king. Celebrimbor attends the ceremony, as a sort of kinsman (between Maedhros's surrender of the crown and Celebrimbor's own disavowal he's unsure if he still counts), and just to get away from Sindar with a grudge.
The new king notices Celebrimbor in the crowd. His beauty, but also his nervousness. Celebrimbor never stand close enough for anyone to touch him, but always makes sure to be within eye sight of at least two people. He carries no sword (can you imagine the insult - a Feanorian with a sword after Doriath?), and wears no emblem, but still walks in the palace as if he belongs there.
Gil-Galad makes a suggestion. "Live with me and warm my bed. I'll let you warm the forges as well, and no one would dare harm you against my will."
Celebrimbor thinks on it. He assumes he'll be allowed to leave, if the king and he dislike each other with prolonged exposure They're not so close of kin for it to be forbidden. If he refuses and stays on Balar, Gil-Galad might see it as a taunt. If he refuses and returns to Sirion, he fears for his safety.
Celebrimbor knows that his family would hate him doing his. His grandfather and father in particular, would say he is of nobler birth than the supposed king; and with the light of the Trees in his eyes, he has seen farther than this child of the daylight. It's degrading and
But Celebrimbor is already going against his family. Playing mistress to a king barely out of his teens would not be Celebrimbor's first choice of life paths, but it beats dying.
The first few weeks or months, Gil-Galad is incredibly curious and rather insatiable. He never dated or "physically explored" with someone else - there aren't many other elves his age and the oncoming crown kept distant the few there were. Celebrimbor isn't married, but he's had a few lovers, and listened to his share of bawdy songs. He is good at several fun ways to have sex, and knows of a few more that just need some experimentation to put into practice.
Gil-Galad tries every one of them. He likes it best when Celebrimbor rides him, arms muscled from forge work holding Celebrimbor up, all that lovely strength on display and devoted to Gil-Galad alone. But he also enjoys Celebrimbor's hands working to the king's pleasure, or his mouth. Gil-Galad also enjoys touching Celebrimbor in return, learning all the ways to overwhelm a body with bliss.
Celebrimbor does get his forge time, too. Gil-Galad is king, and can't devote his entire day to fucking him, much to Gil-Galad's disappointment. The first time Gil-Galad ask Celebrimbor to make a necklace, he does so without a second thought. He likes making jewelry, and it's an honor for the king to wish to wear his work. Gil-Galad asks him to make more pieces, and to wear them, and still it's engaging work.
Gil-Galad's idea for a new piercing is surprising, but Celebrimbor is a Noldo through and through. His body exists purely to to serve and display his Craft. A jewel in the tip of his cock is just another way to do this. Celebrimbor tries a pearl at first, so it looks like he just came.
Then he gets elaborate. A spiral around the outside of his cock. A delicate golden net that shimmers across his whole body, kept from twisting by the piercings in his cock and nipples. A gleaming dragon across his taint, it's jaws stretched wide as it devours him from the tip halfway up his shaft; anchored at the piercing, and with a belt that looks like storm clouds, and with it's tail in his ass.
Gil-Galad is delighted by every new adornment Celebrimbor creates. Celebrimbor knows that it's not really about the beauty of his work so much as his body and the king's lust, but it will do. In Sirion, he had made bracelets only to hammer them flat before anyone could see, as all feared what Feanorian jewelry could cause.
It's over a decade before Celebrimbor tries to leave the palace, and is escorted back indoors by a guard.
There's really nothing Celebrimbor can do to stop the king, short of becoming a Kinslayer like the rest of his family.
At least, not for another decade, when Gil-Galad is suddenly called away to deal with his uncles' latest atrocity.
#also sorry for the unanounced break I am having Phone Issues#currently using my ancient phone that has 10 hrs of battery life if I do nothing but tumblr drains it at about 1% every 2-3 minutes#so I can no longer reply to asks when it's slow at work#I haven't particularly decide on Gil Galad's parentage other than Not Feanorian in this#he's probably either Fingon's or Orodreth's#though the timeline does just barely work for him to be Finrod's or even Fingolfin's#not archived yet#if you give one of the Curufinwe's a forge it will take them a long time to realize they're not allowed to leave#because they won't even think to try if they have cool new project ideas#the Flight of the Noldor could have been avoided if someone had taught Feanor how to 3d print and given him a decent CAD program
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For the character ask: all the children of Finarfin
How I feel about this character:
Finrod: charming slutty blond twink with a heart of gold. maybe that’s too much fanon and not enough canon but you can tear that characterization from my cold dead hands tbh. like yes this is King “I Killed A Werewolf With Nothing But My Teeth And The Power Of Love” but he’s also Prince “I Rap Battled With Sauron And Lost” and Lord “I Befriended Men and Dwarves Before It Was Cool”
Angrod: of all his siblings i think he’s the most… Angry Boy. he has a temper, but he’s also married with a kid (I subscribe to the Orodreth Angrodion version of canon). i think he’s the ‘oh my god why can’t any of you be NORMAL’ brother. BOTH his mother name and his father name are derived from the word for ‘iron’ - he’s got an iron personality, very strong-willed and stubborn. i also hc that he’s the only arafinwean who has Earwen’s silver hair.
Aegnor: a hopeless romantic. the dreamiest arafinwion (and that’s including artanis!). very particular about his hair (which is a WILD canon detail that i love sjdfhdk) but also has terrible fashion. his head’s always in the clouds, he’s a daydreamer, but he’s also incredibly loyal and a really good friend. he almost always listens to his heart over his head - and the fact that he and andreth never marry is the One Time he listened to logic over emotion, and that haunts him forever.
Galadriel: almost as much of a genius as Feanor and almost as humble about it, which is to say, not at all. she’s proud and stubborn and full of herself, especially in her youth - she’s also gorgeous and smart and right a lot of the time, which doesn’t help her ego. by the time she’s become Lady of Lothlorien she’s been through a lot and is much more humble and wise, but i think that comes not just from her experiences but also from being married to Celeborn the Wise. i think he balances her out very well tbh. (my favorite Galadriel characterization EVER is from this fic by @nerdanelparmandil, check it out!!)
All the people I ship romantically with this character
Finrod: I ship Finrod with anything that moves tbh….. I see him as super super gay, he and Amarie were mutual beards which is why she didn’t follow him to Endore. i am a Known Slut for Finrod/Turgon in particular, they’re kind of endgame for me, but also @raisingcain-onceagain has converted me to Finrod/Edrahil!! And while the Nargothrond Disaster Trio are in no way shape or form HEALTHY, i really really enjoy Celegorm/Curufin/Finrod content, that dynamic is delicious. i can also get down on Maedhros/Fingon/Finrod, though not really in a serious way. PLUS Finrod/Beor is very good, as is Finrod/Barahir and Finrod/Beren(/Luthien if we’re feeling spicy), and you KNOW he got busy with some dwarves! I just think he’s very free with his feelings and desires, especially after coming to Beleriand, and he takes full advantage of his freedom and position of authority to get what he wants. (not necessarily in a weird power dynamics way, though he’s into that kind of kinky shit too probably, i mean more in ‘it’s my kingdom i get to make the rules and i say No Homophobia and No Slutshaming’) - and I’m super happy to multiship with Finrod, there are verses where he’s fucking everyone and verses where he’s pining over Turgon and verses where he never even thinks about anyone other than Edrahil and etc etc etc. there’s probably even verses where he and Sauron get up to some funky shit!
Angrod: I don’t have a lot of headcanons about him and Eldalote. She has a Sindarin name, so maybe she came with him to Middle-earth - or maybe not, and he just missed her so much that he wouldn’t shut up about her and so her name was Sindarized to Edhellos. Either way I think they had a very strong relationship that ended in tragedy one way or another. I’ve also seen some fun Angrod/Caranthir enemies-to-lovers stuff, which I can get into, but I think Caranthir is aro so it’s not really my main hc.
Aegnor: i mean how can you NOT ship him and Andreth??? that relationship is just….so tragic and heartbreaking and beautiful. I like the theory that Gil-galad was their child, and he was given to Orodreth to raise because Andreth couldn’t care for an elfling and Aegnor couldn’t publicly claim a son out of wedlock. But also verses where they are just tragically pining after one another are beautiful in their own way. My headcanon is that the thing keeping them apart was less about the war going on and more about Aegnor fearing to lose her - but then he actually dies before her, and Andreth has to live with that pain. (idk if that works out timeline wise but. yeah)
Galadriel: Meladriel is very good and I enjoy that - I’ve also seen some great Galadriel/Luthien and even a Galadriel/Feanor fic I enjoyed. BUT overall i really love that she chose to marry Celeborn, a wise “dark elf” even when she’s completely out of his league - he balances her very well, and I don’t buy depictions of her walking all over him. she cares about him and he’s really good for her!
My non-romantic OTP for this character
Finrod: I ship Finrod/Turgon but also WHAT a great friendship they have!! I love that they go adventuring together :) And Finrod, Maedhros, and Fingon are so fun to imagine growing up together! Plus there’s his relationship with his nephew Orodreth, who he clearly adores, and also the fact that he’s still buddies with the Feanorians even after the first kinslaying (at Alqualonde! his home! where his mom is from!) and he’s so excited to meet new people from the Sindar to the Edain to the Dwarves. Finrod’s just EVERYONE’S friend and i appreciate that!!
Angrod: ….what if he and Caranthir used to be really close, like they are similar ages and grew up together, but then Something Happened and they started hating each other later on. that would be Very fun. also, he and Aegnor were lords together over the same land and died together, which implies they were very close - close like Celegorm and Curufin!
Aegnor: Again, he and Angrod were Best Bros which is great. I also think he’s probably beloved by Andreth’s people, he’s just this huge elf man they all kind of adopted and he’s so honored that they love him so much!
Galadriel: Melian!! obviously!! she stayed in Doriath specifically to learn from her, which is super neat. and then Gandalf in the later ages, i love whatever they have going on in the movies especially. i also think she and Celebrimbor had a weird rival-friendship i the second age, they’re both geniuses but from opposite sides of the family feud…except the family feud has killed pretty much everyone BUT them, so they come together to mourn that.
My unpopular opinion about this character
(this turned into more of ‘what are their negative personality traits’ than ‘unpopular opinions’ but whatever…)
Finrod: i’m sure he did his best but….when he was king of nargothrond he was still gallivanting all over the place. orodreth was probably More In Charge from before he was officially king…
Angrod: he’s a grade-A asshole. just a dick. mean as shit and holds grudges forever. really annoying to be around.
Aegnor: a dumbass. always listens to his heart and gets in trouble for it, until the one time he listens to his head and regrets it forever.
Galadriel: would make an EXCELLENT villain. ‘all shall love me and despair’ ? come on yall. if it had been HER versus sauron instead of Finrod (and…considering she was probably friends with Luthien, it very well could have been) i think she may have won, and im just imagining Sauron working for her, and the second and third ages going very differently with her being a Queen who everyone loves until they look back and realize she’s been corrupted and turned evil.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
so i think canon did mostly a good job with them SO some of these are some AUs!!!
Finrod: …if he had managed to convince Celegorm and Curufin to help with the Silmaril quest–the war could have ended before the Nirnaeth, maybe. or at least gone very differently.
Angrod: im gonna physically fight tolkien over giving us practically NOTHING on the wives of various characters - tell me more about Eldalote you coward!!!!
Aegnor: JUST MARRY ANDRETH PLEASE. i’m a slut for interspecies relationships and the fact that this one is male elf/female human is SO good and frankly unprecedented in Tolkien’s works. PLEASE i need more!!!
Galadriel: FUCK that evil!Artanis AU would be REALLY cool and sexy, wouldn’t it?
#silmarillion#finrod#angrod#aegnor#galadriel#long post#silm#arafinweans#arafinwions#ask games#thanks anon!!!!#anon#answers#my meta#silm meta
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DRUNK LIVEBLOG OF THE AKALLABETH BC I PROMISED @rose-of-the-bright-sea
Uh unfortunately i’m not too drunk since once again my job was to bounce everyone once the party ended but uhhh it is early morning and i’m still not asleep and i did just spend 5 hours dancing and doing shots so...
ANYWAY: first scene of the Akallabeth, remember how the edain were the only Men who fought against morgoth in the war of wrath etc, and when morgoth was defeated the Evil Men who fought for him ran away and conquered all the Stupid Men who were still living in the middle earth area and these men’s lives sucked and were constantly attacked by orcs and monsters and they were dumb and wild and stuff. this explanation is like 20 kinds of LMAO NARRATIVES but also not like, in a lying way, just in a framing way.
otoh the edain got given a giant island in the middle of the ocean as a reward for fighting against morgoth and stuff, osse and aule and yavanna did it. (valar: ‘have an island way out in the sea’ elros: ‘SOUNDS LEGIT’). meanwhile the elves of ME are long-sufferingly granted permission to come to tol eressea because their lives kinda suck. the difference in the tone of the edain’s gift and the elves’ gift is totally not noticed by the narrator but the fact that avallone was build on the eastern edge of tol eressea where it could be seen from numenor is. lol.
there’s this super gorgeous entrancing description of how earendil burned super bright so that he shone night and day and the edain followed him over the calm enchanted sea until they found the island of numenor -- andor the land of gift, elenna that is starwards. however we all know all this incredible rich storytelling stuff isn’t important compared to the tiny scrap of smugness that can be wrung out of making elros hate earendil and/or elves, bc everyone knows that no character’s narrative matters except the feanorians’.
elves of ME also brought all the edain to numenor and elves of tol eressea gave the edain a ton of tools and gifts and stuff to help build their new nation, but you know it’s fun to headcanon elros as a bitter chest-puffing supercilious self-satisfied little prick who finds these elves embarrassing and blinkered and their existence pitiful and tut-tuttingly Wrong. bc that makes sense and is woke for some reason.
the numenoreans became taller than all the sons of middle earth, not all the men of middle earth, so numenoreans are taller than elves. also they didn’t have a lot of kids, bc i guess population explosions on islands with almost no death outside of like 300 years of old age is a Bad Time.
also “and the light of their eyes was like the bright stars” hahahahahahahahaha lmao! kill me! lies down. does not get up.
WHITE TREE FRACTALS
the numenoreans are super cool and get to talk and visit with both elves of tol eressea and elves of middle earth, which seems to lead to the completely inescapable conclusion that numenor is a place where the peoples of all lands can pass messages to one another but this is never mentioned. the numenoreans could totally also have prob defeated the evil human kings of middle earth if they tried but they were totes peaceful -- at an undefined point in time. nice vague timeline blurring bruh.
instead they like, instructed the dumb middle earth men on how to grow grain and grind flour and make stuff out of wood bc uh i guess the middle earth men are too dumb to figure it out, for “the ordering of their life, such as it might be in the lands of swift death and little bliss” hahahahahaha this is the most condescending line in the entire silm it’s great.
then the numenoreans start getting dissatisfied with how they still gotta die and stuff. it’s vaguely described as being something to do with how even their long lives are still not as long as elves’ loves, but every time i read this it reminds me how pissed about mortality i’d be if my great-great-great-uncle who was totally allowed to choose to become immortal kept popping in to talk about how he got to see the cool millennia of my country’s history first hand and debate with my revered ancestral founding king. so.
however the numenoreans totally brush over these sorts of super compelling and sympathetic and valid points and instead just whine about how they’re A Bigshot Kewl Superior Race and HDU Say We Can’t Control Everything If We Wanna, 36 Presents? But Last Century I Got 37! because they’re fucking useless dumbasses.
The valar reply that Aman Will Not Make You Immortal, Yo, and also that elves being immortal and men being mortal aren’t rewards or punishments, which are reasonable points. they then go on to go ‘TBH shouldn’t WE be the ones envying YOU bc you get to peace out of this clusterfuck world, huh, huh whaddaya think about that. also btw the whole mortality thing is some Secret Plan To Fight Inflation eru came up with, and none of us will know it until you and a bajillion generations of your descendants are all dead, lol!!!!’ THANKS VALAR. THAT’S REALLY HELPFUL. GREAT JOB OF ACTUALLY ADDRESSING ANYTHING THE NUMENOREANS ARE BOTHERED ABOUT. KUDOS. i love dumb gods.
the numenoreans are super dissatisfied but instead of anything constructive the king decides to hold his breath and throw a tantrum stay king until he’s totally senile and his son is old, bc of spite, then numenor gets divided into the king’s men and the faithful. the faithful are also bleh about death but assume that the valar have some kind of good reason for what they said, because um, reasons, i guess. no one says if the reasons are more mindless dogma or more a grounding and strengthening faith, but since numenoreans sound like RL humans to a tee it’s probably both. the king’s men aren’t skeptics tho -- they just conquer and enslave and colonize and steal from middle earth, bc ‘the west was denied to them.’ some fans find this to be a ‘yes, but--’ where it’s not the best thing to do but sympathetic and better than those un-nietzschean faithful. i’m gonna assume every single person who finds this nod-worthy is as White as sour cream.
later on Ar-Gimilzor bans the Faithful’s language, sends secret police or smth to find out everyone who is Faithful and forcibly remove them from their homes, relocate them to Romenna, and corral and watch them, call them and the elves of tol eressea spies, chase them out of numenor, and force the faithful leader’s sister to marry the king. some fans still somehow think this was a morally grey and understandable thing to do because secular-culturally-christian libs are vile and have never parsed a history book in their lives.
Tar-Palantir becomes king after being secretly taught Faithful stuff by his secretly faithful mom, but nothing he does to fix things helps and he eventually dies young from depression. His daughter Tar-Miriel becomes queen but her cousin Ar-Pharazon forces her to marry him and give him the kingship instead. exactly how this happened remains unexplained! Boo! I want more details. Anyway Pharazon is a Fragile Masculinity poster boy and when sauron starts causing trouble he decides he’s just gotta go capture him and bring him to numenor to show off and stroke his ego, bc he is an Heir Of Eärendil and Respect Meehhh!! God this guy sounds SO UNPLEASANTLY FAMILIAR DOESN’T HE EH. (parenthetically i am delighted beyond words at how absolutely bang-on it is that the King’s Men, both here and earlier with the convo with the Valar, totally Do Not Mention the fact that they’re heirs of Elros, not just Earendil, bc that would be super inconvenient to their vision of themselves and their mortality grievance!! lol!!! i love it!!!! god!!!!!!!! *fingers and thumb in a circle emoji*).
anyway sauron is super smart and an awesomesauce genre-savvy villain and way too good for pharazon and he flatters him and manipulates him into making him his councilor and convinces him that the valar are lying and and to worship morgoth and slaughter the faithful by sacrificing them on.....hm....altars....as rebels and as scapegoats for all numenor’s Problems(TM)....>_>....lmao tolkien can be really fucking dumb and scattered about his mythology and religion patchworking, and yet the wokeness-masturbating section of fandom is infinitely worse in the most predictable ways.
WHITE TREE FRACTALS (this time featuring bonus BAMF and Super Awesome And Lovable 21 Year Old Isildur......have i mentioned recently how much i hate peter jackson......)
anyway when Pharazon has a mid-life crisis about getting old sauron also convinces him he can become immortal by invading aman, which he should totally do bc The Strong Do What They Will And The Weak Bear What They Must (remember this is tragically admirable if flawed, because it’s defying fate!) and a super armament is built to invade aman and ar-Pharazon’s ex-bff Amandil who’s secretly friends with the Faithful freaks and makes secret plans to sail to valinor to beg the valar to do something and has his son elendil prepare to go to middle earth to see the elves who are hunkered down there doing.....uhhhhh???? probably hiding from numenorean conquest????
but anyway when pharazon invades aman and chases the elves out of tol eressea and then tirion, he has a Uh-Oh I Think This Was A Bad Idea feeling but can’t back down now so he lands ashore and camps out around tirion and then manwe prays to eru to bail everyone out and says he will lay down rule of arda for a minute since he doesn’t know what to do, presumably a la ‘omg dad i fucked up and totally crashed your car,’ and eru solves this by getting ar-pharazon & co buried under a mountain until the end of the world (funny how so few fans ever address this thing re: tirion in valinor fanfic eh? oh yeah i forgot silm fans don’t give a shit about humans), opening up a big crack in the ocean, pulling aman and tol eressea out into space, turning the earth from flat to spherical, and letting the island of numenor get buried under the resulting tidal wave and fall down the crack to wherever. because you know overkill is great! also sauron is too busy doing an Evil Villain Laugh to realize he’s about to get drowned and he totally dies and has to make himself a new body out of Anger and he’s now ugly, which sucks for the fanartists.
anyway manwe saves elendil and his fleet (it doesn’t say manwe, but it does say ‘but the great wind took [elendil], wilder than any wind that Men had known, roaring from the west, and it swept his ships far away...’ which, duh) and they wind up washed up on middle earth, but totally grief-stricken over the destruction of numenor.
I can’t liveblog the rest any better than verbatim so I’ll just quote:
Among the Exiles many believed that the summit of the Meneltarma, the Pillar of Heaven, was not drowned for ever, but rose again above the waves, a lonely island lost in the great waters; for it had been a hallowed place, and even in the days of Sauron none had defiled it And some there were of the seed of Eärendil that afterwards sought for it, because it was said among loremasters that the far-sighted men of old could see from the Meneltarma a glimmer of the Deathless Land. For even after the ruin the hearts of the Dúnedain were still set westwards; and though they knew indeed that the world was changed, they said: 'Avallónë is vanished from the Earth and the Land of Aman is taken away, and in the world of this present darkness they cannot be found. Yet once they were, and therefore they still are, in true being and in the whole shape of the world as at first it was devised.'
For the Dúnedain held that even mortal Men, if so blessed, might look upon other times than those of their bodies' life; and they longed ever to escape from the shadows of their exile and to see in some fashion the light that dies not; for the sorrow of the thought of death had pursued them over the deeps of the sea. Thus it was that great mariners among them would still search the empty seas, hoping to come upon the Isle of Meneltarma, and there to see a vision of things that were. But they found it not. And those that sailed far came only to the new lands, and found them like to the old lands, and subject to death. And those that sailed furthest set but a girdle about the Earth and returned weary at last to the place of their beginning; and they said:
'All roads are now bent.'
Thus in after days, what by the voyages of ships, what by lore and star-craft, the kings of Men knew that the world was indeed made round, and yet the Eldar were permitted still to depart and to come to the Ancient West and to Avallónë, if they would. Therefore the loremasters of Men said that a Straight Road must still be, for those that were permitted to find it. And they taught that, while the new world fell away, the old road and the path of the memory of the West still went on, as it were a mighty bridge invisible that passed through the air of breath and of flight (which were bent now as the world was bent), and traversed Ilmen which flesh unaided cannot endure, until it came to Tol Eressëa, the Lonely Isle, and maybe even beyond, to Valinor, where the Valar still dwell and watch the unfolding of the story of the world. And tales and rumours arose along the shores of the sea concerning mariners and men forlorn upon the water who, by some fate or grace or favour of the Valar, had entered in upon the Straight Way and seen the face of the world sink below them, and so had come to the lamplit quays of Avallónë, or verily to the last beaches on the margin of Aman, and there had looked upon the White Mountain, dreadful and beautiful, before they died.
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is it time for the shibboleth yet
“hush child my executive functions are capricious and fickle”
As it turns out what I’m really here for is DWARF FACTS. Tolkien asks: 'When were the Dwarf and Goblin wars? When didMoria become finally desolate?' We’d all like to know that, I think, Mr Jolkien. Here he writes just like me trying to figure out a canon from known facts, very muttersome as he thinks about how Moria must have been destroyed a long time ago but people still went in there pretty recently:
'But the appearance of the Balrog and the desolation of Moria must be more ancient, possibly as far back as c.1980-2000'.
The ancient misty days of 1980. My father’s fathers were alive then, still mourning the death of disco.
I’m really happy that Thrain keeps appearing, because I have a permanent echolalia of “Thorin son of Thrain son of Thror.” I love to say Thror. Thrain was the last possessor of one of the seven dwarven rings of power--the rest had been taken back or destroyed. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED. Oh I just realized I’m not even reading the chronology, I’m reading the notes on the chronology. maybe there will be info about the house of Thror there. The good stuff starts in 2765 when Smaug happens to the Erebor dwarves; Thror & co try to recolonize Moria but surprise! Orcs! They go to war with the orcs in revenge for Thror’s orrible murder. My instinct is to say this is very Feanorian of them but it’s probably just everyone on Arda who has the constant urge to go to war for the smallest reasons. At the end of the War of Orcs and Dwarves
the Orcs were almost annihilated, and Moria is once more emptied, but the Dwarves also lost very heavily and were too few at the end to reoccupy Moria or face the hidden terror.
Mothgog the Balrog! no idk if the Moria balrog is named. but Mothgog is a pretty funny--NO WAIT. MALLGOTH THE BALROG. My balrog OC.
Throughout this whole thing Gandalf has been intermittently snooping around Dol Guldur (a fantastic name) trying to figure out who the Sorceror is. I was already fooled once during the Lay of Leithian, I didn’t realize the Sorceror on Werewolf Isle was Sauron, so this is pretty understandable. Anyway Gandalf meets Thrain and his baby boy, who have become wanderers, and receives the secret key of Erebor (???).
Fun fact: The Hobbit takes place when Aragorn is 9 years old.
Mmm I also want to know how hobbits came about but I’m too lazy to look it up, someone should just tell me.
OH great and there’s a bit about Durin, this is fun. He was known as Durin the Deathless in his own lifetime, until he died. And then he was reincarnated as another Durin, so it was all fine, everyone was happy. Durin II or III was the one who “delved too greedily and too deep, and awoke a terror of shadow and flame.” They were mining for mithril in Moria and there was a balrog just napping in the rock. Jeez this would make a great Junji Ito, right? Just like, a really good creepypasta. Like that cave one where a good 2/3 of it is just them enlarging the hole with power tools. But the text never does say anything about what happened to the other 6 rings of power... everyone was very secretive about it. But Thrain was tortured in Dol Guldur and Sauron took the last ring. What did he do with it?? Wasn’t the point to control people with them? Or are these the ones Celebrimbor made to resist him?
There’s also a section on Eorl the Young. I have had this name stuck in my head for like a decade and I want to know why. But I suspect I will not find out by reading this. He’s a lord of the men of Eotheod, northwest of Mirkwood. LARGE SHRUG.
Back to dwarves. It says here that although their language was made up by Aule (he’s a conlanger!) they purposefully made it “harsh and intricate” so elves couldn’t learn it. This is really funny to me, I am imagining a dwarf linguistics council meeting to decide how to further obfuscate their language. “Five grammatical genders,” says one, puffing on a pipe. “Decline nouns based on elevation,” suggests another. “Every word has several possible meanings based on context!” says a triumphant dwarf sitting in front of the fireplace with a poker. Everyone mutters approvingly; there’s a smattering of applause. “And don’t write vowels,” adds someone, after a pause.
The Dwarves were in many ways a special case. They had an ancient language of their own which they prized highly; and even when, as among the Longbeard Dwarves of the West, it had ceased to be their native tongue and had become a 'book-language', it was carefully preserved and taught to all their children at an early age.
Can ya make it any more Hebrew, Johnald. My education final is literally on this, it’s great.
There’s a bunch more stuff about dwarf language and the character set they used and their secret names and stuff (devised by... Daeron? well it’s nice that he did something besides play music for his sister. er. crush. I liked them better as siblings.) It mentions that they have frequent, like, conferences where delegates from different tribes come together, which is awesome. There’s a bit about how they started learning human languages in order to ally with Haleth’s people against Morgoth, and also how they refuse to use their true names with any other race or even write them down, which is awesome. I love that this is a history told through the lens of linguistic drift, it is the number one most charming possible way to tell a history. I love.
In the notes it says that most of the doors to Moria had spell-inscriptions of prohibition and exclusion. Fuck yes. Inscription magic.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE VERY BRINK OF THE SHIBBOLETH OF FEANOR. It’s here! Finally! Tomorrow for sure.
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For the ask meme: Fingon? And/or Aredhel?
i did aredhel here!
How I feel about this character: precious cinnamon roll. ray of sunshine. fingon is a darling and my personal hero. he’s so brave, and good, and determined, and he’s committed to doing the right thing and i admire that SO MUCH. he’s not a little baby, he’s got a lot of responsibility, and he’s more than just maedhros’s emotional support boyfriend, but he really just cares so much about the people around him, from his family to his lover to his people, and that compassion is what i think made him a good king. he has his flaws - i think his optimism and his faith was ultimately his undoing - but even those flaws are full of such goodness and righteousness. of all the characters in the silm, i think he is one of the least Problematic™. not that he’s perfect, far from it, but he’s earnest in his devotion to justice and peace. that’s why his death is so tragic - he stood for goodness in a horribly dark world, and when he died so much hope and opportunity and light died with him. not just for maedhros (although definitely for maedhros) but for all the people who marched under his banner, too. we talk about the “and death was his reward” quote so much but GOD it’s just so painfully true....
All the people I ship romantically with this character: Just Maedhros, tbh. I think Fingon is demiromantic/demisexual and really Just There For Mae. we joke about fingon being maedhros-sexual or his kink being ‘whatever Maedhros is doing’ but like - i genuinely think Maedhros is his One True Love and that he just never really had any feelings for anyone else.
My non-romantic OTP for this character: He and Finrod must have been B R O S growing up!! Finrod was probably younger, and definitely closer to Turgon when they were older, but I love the idea of Fingon being the de facto eldest grandchild of Finwe in Tirion, what with Feanor off doing whatever it is he’s doing all the time, and therefore little Finrod just idolizing him growing up. And while in Beleriand, after Turgon closed up shop, Finrod was still a known traveler, so he probably reconnected with Fingon since he couldn’t visit Gondolin - I bet they had a great time together! And throw Maedhros in the mix and you’d get the three oldest cousins just hanging out and having fun, probably some of the happier times during the Siege of Angband. (plus, I can get into some Maedhros/Fingon/Finrod content...nothing too serious, but imo Finrod’s a bit of a slut, lmao.)
My unpopular opinion about this character: ok, so up front here, fingon’s decision to rescue maedhros was overall a good thing for everyone, and it’s the most iconic and gayest moment in the silm tbh- BUT. BUT. it was a monumentally stupid thing to do, especially all on his lonesome, and had it gone wrong (which it VERY WELL COULD HAVE) it would have been pretty much all his fault, and everyone would have been much worse off than if he hadn’t attempted it at all. now thankfully this did NOT happen and everything turned out as best it could under the circumstances, but i’d say the chances of him saving maedhros were realistically like ... 20% at best, which is an 80% chance of him beefing it. and if fingon had beefed it, things would’ve been fucked. losing BOTH maedhros AND fingon would DEFINITELY have made everything AWFUL, especially if the nolofinweans blamed the feanorians for fingon’s death.... if fingon had stayed behind, i think things would have been VERY tense and bad between the two groups of the noldor BUT i think if there was anyone willing to work things out it would be him and i think he, fingolfin, and maglor could have come to an uneasy peace. if he’d died trying to save maedhros there would probably have been civil war. so he risked A LOT that wasn’t really his to risk, in order to save his boyfriend and HOPE that would bring the noldor back together. thankfully he was just as valiant and amazing and the power of gay love + the mercy of the valar made things work out this time, but just thinking of if he’d failed...................OOF.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: he shouldn’t have died :(( ok jk, i think he died at the right time narratively, i wouldn’t change that. if i’m being serious and not just Sad About Losing My Boy, i really do think tolkien shouldn’t have been a coward - he should’ve made russingon canon. there’s a LOT that could be done with that - and it IS being done in fandom!! - but there could be so much more fodder for us to work with if it was canon! the cousin thing is fucky, but if you read lace a certain way there’s justification for half-cousins marrying (which is WILD considering there’s only ONE recorded instance of half-cousins even EXISTING so WHAT were you implying there tolkien???? HMMM???) and i think grappling with that is more interesting than just refusing to acknowledge it.
#fingon#silmarillion#ok now im EMO about him!!!!!!#i really am going off on these answers huh? usually i dont go as in depth#maybe its cuz its 3am and i have nothing to lose........#ask games#thanks for your ask!!!#alkarinqque#answers#my meta#silm meta
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