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Kinda curious about the demon "Agony" from Devil Summoner. Is there any explanation behind the demon's design by Kaneko? Having Jesus (sorry, "Jesus-like figure") be demoted to a generic demon is kinda wild, ngl
There is a Kaneko comment for Agony in World Guidance but it hasn't been translated yet as far as I know. This was another topic covered in the Fan Myths from last year. All we have is the Akuma Zensho profile:
Origin: Unknown
A zombie who is always carrying a cross. He's a martyr who was not reborn in the Kingdom of God after dying. Because his people did not give their lives for their God, he was reborn as a demon.
Though he lived through many forms of pain, his God did not ask this of him. Because he only cared about pleasing his God, he became a truly miserable soul.
The cross has really been quite the barrier to overcome in understanding what the design is; once you realize it's not Jesus at all, but some poor soul wrapped in barbed wire, it becomes a lot easier. Because yeah, he's a regular encounter:
He's just one of those Saturn-era pain/torture original demon designs, along with Inferno, Scarecrow, Padlock, Garrote, and more that Kaneko seemed to enjoy creating.
A lot of them seemed to be inspired by horror movies, Hellraiser in particular. Imagine these having the same kind of presence as a Cenobite or a victim of a Cenobite and they make more sense.
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Porewit - Day 36
Race: Wilder
Alignment: Dark-Neutral
May 10th, 2024
Slavic mythology is weird. Very weird. Due to a lack of concrete sources, many demons and gods featured throughout have very little to work off of, and many appear only in offhand references throughout various texts. Among those gods, however, one shows up that has caught the interest of many scholars- the Wendish deity, Porevit.
Due to a lack of sources, there isn’t much to work off of regarding this god- two fragmented books are all that remains of this deity, and we don’t even know what he was the patron OF in the mythos. All we know about him is that he was depicted with 5 heads and no arms. However, what does his SMT design have to do with the few descriptions we have of him? Is this just another case of ATLUS taking serious creative liberties? No. Not at all. There’s a twist to this demon- a strange choice of localization.
As it would turn out, Porewit in SMT isn’t based on the enigmatic slavic god in question, but rather, something completely different.
All that we know about Porewit in the series is that he was ‘a beast that breathes fire, causing havoc in towns and the mountains.’ Later on, it describes the ‘sacrificing of cows and sheep.’ What can we do with this information? We can extrapolate. As it would turn out, we can trace the origin of this monster further into slavic territories, deep into Yugoslavia, with a completely different name. Fōbi.
According to Yugoslavian lore, this monster was a beast with 7 heads that had fire billowing from each one, responsible for destruction and eating a police officer in the 1950’s. Apparently, people once would rush to its altar to sacrifice cows and sheep in order to stop its rampage. We’re getting warmer! Literally!
However, there’s yet one more twist to add to this tangled mess, and probably the most baffling of all.
The Fōbi literally does not exist.
"World Magic and Sorcery" is a book written by Toshiya Nakaoka in 1968, a book describing the monsters and witchcraft from, well, all around the world! In this book, a peculiar monster sticks out- the exact same one we’re describing here, depicted as an actual bit of mythology. However, from what literally anyone can tell, Toshiya partook in a little bit of an activity known as, you know, LYING???
There are literally no other documentations of the Fōbi anywhere! A few scholarly texts have come out since then that reference it, but all of them reference back to, as it would turn out, WORLD MAGIC AND SORCERY! I’M LOSING MY FUCKING MIND!
I kid, I kid- this has been fun to research, but dear god has it also been frustrating. With all of this explained, though, we can finally, finally get into the demon proper. Porewit’s design takes a lot of inspiration from the Fōbi, as one can predict- several heads spitting flame is a perfect description of this demon, and it all checks. With the depictions of the Fōbi that exist, we can finally see the resemblance of this monster. What makes it even funnier is that, in Japanese, Porewit is actually called フォービ, effectively meaning Fōbi! Why the hell did the localization team make Porewit into Fōbi? I have no idea! Regardless, in spite of how confusing this has turned out to be, I really do enjoy this demon’s design, and this demon was fun to research. A special thanks to the SMT wiki, Bogleech, and especially dijehtranslations’ wordpress blog for making this far less of a headache to research.
In conclusion, fuck this demon.
#shin megami tensei#smt#megaten#persona#daily#oh my god this one was#AUGHHHHHHFHGHH#why is it named porewit.#why. why is it named that.#it's nothing even like#remotely related?? to the slavic god????#JUST CALL IT FŌBI!!!#JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!
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ok actual cool thing the american website actually shows more of the key artwork than the box ever did
bro they cropped out gouto you can’t see him noooo his official art is on the back of the box tho
i can’t for the life of me find a high res version of the full artwork what i did find is a file that can’t be opened nor has a preview but that’s probably because currently i’m on mobile and in a place with crappy internet-
by the time dsrk2 was being developed kaneko wasn’t a part of atlus anymore and the box art was done by atlus’s general art team so i don’t think it’s featured in any art books :(
there was apparently a poster that featured gouto though…. in japan
and now i need to find a good quality version of it since it looks so sick but at least everyone’s favorite cursed cat for eternity gets some rep
just a heads up for anyone looking for a copy of 2 in english because of the limited quantity thing the price of it recently got to around $200 so enjoy hunting irl
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What Jonathan got for Christmas
A doodle I did in less than 5 minutes lol
#smtiv#megaten#shin megami tensei#smt#smt4#shin megami tensei iv#shin megami tensei 4#smt jonathan#meme#shirts that go hard#gay sex prevents abortions#suck a c*ck for Jesus
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did no one think to mention that Atlus made catboy Jesus? I feel like that should have come up before now. I, personally, would have liked to have been made aware before now.
#devil survivor#kazuya minegishi#catboy#catboy jesus#i feel robbed#robbed of years I could have spent knowing about catboy jesus#megaten
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Minato has Sevendust and DJ Okawari on the same playlist. Probably 50 Cent, too. I can see him getting jiggy to Candy Shop.
#persona 3#persona 3 reload#minato arisato#makoto yuki#Anime Jesus#persona#megaten#megami tensei#shin megami tensei#smt
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any of them that are barefoot. Next
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Fun MegaTen fact! Yu Narukami is the only Persona protagonist to not have suffered more than Jesus!
#zelle.txt#persona#sorry for the heresy on the dash today#also this isn’t to be like one of those people that’s like ‘ugh P4 is so cheery and happy -_-‘#it isn’t obvs#but Yu is like the only protag without a tragic backstory
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now... would YOU make an adachi essay video if you were able to since you created the longest article in the new megaten wiki!? i feel like you have so much to say about him and, to be honest, you would probably beat these yt essays about adachi made by r/buddypersona dudes by a longshot LMAO.
jesus christ no lmao i hate video essays
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top 5 romantic moments in megaten? :D
okay the actual order is loose here because i like all of these for different reasons but let's gooo
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tao "i know she killed multiple people but that's my little meow meow and i love her" isonokami, just this whole arc and how she's willing to risk everything to save sahori from lahmu and from herself no matter what she's done
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like every scene with dahn in abaddon in the chaos route, the way that his development and redemption is so deeply tied to his feelings toward raidou and how watching him has given him hope and shown him a better way forward
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raidou and seimei's goodbye, jesus fuck. "what you said to me that day, in front of the setting sun-" "let me carry your sorrow alongside you" "i finally found the hope i was searching for" and the reaching for each other's as seimei disappears and raidou just saying his name as he looks at his empty hand and AUGH
also their entire respective arcs and the fact that this would COMPLETELY UNAMBIGUOUSLY be recognized as a forbidden romance plot if it was m/f but the fan translation did everything possible to downplay it, god
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smtv protag and aogami's goodbye in the true ending, this is still a ridiculous amount of screenshots but i had to hold myself back but like GOD i felt like i needed to make sure people Understand. this is the point in this list where i just get inconsolable. i straight up cannot understand how there is so much argument about this relationship being romantic (whether romantic (literal) or romantic (literary)) when this scene exists. our souls are one and the same. the callback to their first meeting. aogami smiling. vkun hesitating. the hands over their hearts as vkun remembers everything they went through together, knowing it's for the last time. OUR SOULS ARE ONE AND THE SAME. literal canon wuthering heights ass soulmates quote in shin megami tensei V for the nintendo switch
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i think everyone knew what this was going to be
#answered#aerogadyne#fandom: persona#fandom: smt#fandom: dsrk#akeshu#aoshu#raidoudahn#raisei#taohori#smtv spoilers
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There is any mythological figure that you think that will never be in megaten ?
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Mizuchi - Day 22
Race: Snake
Alignment: Neutral
April 19th, 2024
Serpentine monsters are a common sight in mythology; whether it be the great Dragons of yore, the feathered serpent Quetzalcoatl, the aboriginal Rainbow Serpent Yurlungur, or even the classical Ouroboros. However, Japan loves snakes in mythology. We've already covered one in Yamata-No-Orochi, but there are so many more, whether it be the adorable and hilarious Yokai Tsuchinoko, or, in the case of the demon we're covering today, the legendary water serpent, Mizuchi.
Mizuchi is rarely seen throughout the tremendous amounts of tales that make up Japanese mythology, only mentioned in the Nihon Shoki (the oldest still-remaining text of Japan's history, dating all the way back to the Yōrō era) as well as appearing in a single Man'yōshū poem. In spite of this, Mizuchi has been the topic of many scholarly debates, eventually being bastardized through history into everyone's favorite root-chakra destroying turtle, the Kappa.
Mizuchi, however, is not originally from Japan- its name is actually a transliteration from several Chinese glyphs, particularly several glyphs describing different dragons, serpents, and monsters of Chinese mythology. Admittedly, I don't know much about Japanese, but one of the kanji used to spell the name Mizuchi implies that it's a snake, but it first-and-foremost means "Water spirit." The word, in English, can be broken down into "Spirit-of-Water," as Mi- means water, -tsu- (the way that it is pronounced) effectively means 'of,' and -chi is a suffix that describes a spirit. Due to this, Mizuchi's origin as a Chinese myth makes it very, very hard to track down much of a solid origin for it, given that it originates from what was effectively a way to match how it sounds to how it's spelled.
Now, in terms of mythology, Mizuchi was first referenced in the Nihon Shoki- as the story goes, under the reign of Emperor Nintoku, there was a fork at a river that contained a great water serpent that would be a very deadly nuisance- it attacked random passersby, spat venom at anybody who came near, broke apart caravans, and was generally just a prick. Eventually, fed up with this, a man named Agatamori approached the spirit with a challenge- he tossed three Calabashes into the water and challenged the spirit to see if it could sink them. If not? Mizuchi would face a swift death. The dragon, perturbed, obliged, yet was unsuccessful, meeting a demise by the hands of the man.
Later on, Agatamori found his way to the fellows of the mischievous snake, and in a move as genocidal as it was unwarranted, slaughtered the entire clan of Mizuchi. The lake below was filled with their blood, later becoming the noted "Pool of Agatamori." However, in spite of how apocalyptic this may seem, it turns out that there are more recollections of Mizuchi in the mix, and this tale was but one of many.
The god of the river recorded in Nintoku 11 is also commonly seen as a Mizuchi. A dam being built along Yodo River was subject to an attack from an unknown force, completely breached. Confused, the Emperor commanded a rebuild of it, only for it to be breached yet again. This happened time and time again, and eventually, the Emperor saw a solution to his problem through a prophetic dream. Bringing two men to the riverfront, he offered them up to the River God, but one refused. Likely recognizing the circumstances, the man demanded to see the divinity of the snake by trying the age-old calabash trick, tossing a set into the river and daring the god to sink them. Unsurprisingly, the Mizuchi failed, and likely grew to resent calabashes for the rest of its life.
The last example of a Mizuchi in classical Japanese mythology comes from the Man'yōshū, a collection of ancient poems that have been passed down from generation to generation. In one of them, a poem composed by Prince Sakaibe, he describes a short and intriguing tale regarding a Mizuchi. In quote, "I could ride a tiger to leap over the Old Shack, to the green pool, to take down the mizuchi dragon there, if only I had a sword capable of doing just that." The story regards a mizuchi dragon as being almost common knowledge, bringing up as many questions as it does answers- however, the way it regards it in such a casual manner may play into why Mizuchi are so scarcely mentioned.
If everyone knew about mizuchi, then they wouldn't feel the need to record it, right? The casual cadence of the poem seems to give light to the idea that mizuchi were a common sight or concept in ancient Japan, and it may have to do with their later bastardization into Kappa. In some areas, kappa are given a name incredibly similar to a mizuchi, such as "Mizushi," "Medochi," or "Mintsuchi." Past this, a common trait in Kappa stories lies in their hatred of calabashes, something which is similar to the distaste Mizuchi have for calabashes in both stories they appear in. Some historians speculate that mizuchi and kappa were in the same general 'clique' of water dwelling monsters.
God, that was a lot. Mizuchi are confusing. However, in terms of the SMT series, there's a lot less to comment on; their appearance as a water spirit in the form of a snake is faithful, and their design is as simple as it is elegant. They appear to be made of clear water, almost like a rushing river in the form of a snake. Throughout the series, Mizuchi are a common sight in the early-mid game, even appearing as a boss in Nocturne. Their specialty in ice skills, the closest thing SMT has to water skills, is almost obvious. However, overall, there's elegance in simplicity, and Mizuchi is just that.
#shin megami tensei#smt#megaten#persona#daily#mizuchi#this thing was a HEADACHE.#probably the hardest demon so far to research#a lot of my stuff was taken directly from wikipedia#albeit reworded#and i feel a bit bad about it#but i can't read japanese!!#and almost all the primary and secondary sources are#lo and behold#in japanese.#however i do appreciate the challenge and i love looking into weird and obscure folklore!!#its just that this guy was way too much of a doozy.#never again. jesus h jimminy cricket.
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jesus holding a lamb but it's a megaten character of your choice holding jack frost. does this make sense
#shin megami tensei#sorry having a mainline megaten tag is funny to me personally cause i still don't tag my persona shit as such
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Okay i have not watched the direct yet but heres a list of things i think were announced based on reaction alone
•splatoon
•professor layton
•xenoblade
•ghost trick
•fantasy life
•Yokai watch
•tomodachi life
•miitopia
•famicom detective club
•metroid prime
•Poképark 3
•dragonology 2
•nintendogs
•the second coming of jesus
•kid icarus
•dragonquest?
•a secret, different splatoon
•rhythm heaven
•pokémon mystery dungeon
•viva piñata
•persona q but with main series megaten??
•the fnaf movie. For the switch
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GUESS WHO BEAT PEE3 TODAY (fes, the journey at least)
(lengthy) final thoughts:
ryoji is kind of. um. "that was my name for a while. i didnt mind it." hes kind of trans. is the thing. also bro 100% drew the shortest stick in this game lmao
obviously ryo/mina isnt quite the same as some of the other insane peesona gay people (2,5. 4 is gay but not rlly insane) bc like. in that form at least we only know him for like...two months?or so? but. u know what. they r t4t and both (kind of) dead. good for them.?
jumpscared by "the arcana is the means by which all is revealed." ive been seeing that shit in like. youtube comments since the day i was born. insane
nyx was like. pathetically easy. to the point where i felt kinda bad about it lol. at least its funny. this is what happens when u have level 99 protag + black viper lucifer (+ messiah for salvation for ailment healing. i could just use me patra gems but its more stylish this way). nobody ever got below half health and most phases (minus last bc of the halved non-almighty damage + gown) were a 1/2/3 hit kill. guys who overlevel because they just love the velvet room so so much (and im prolly not gonna do ng+, especially with portable port on its way (femc!). so trying to experience most that i can)
i did cheese the reaper a while back. used thunder reign strat. was actually harder bc new moon rebalance nerfed the shock rate so its not 100% lol. but took advantage of its ai to get it stuck in a break skill loop (akihiko dekunda sweep) the money was nice, and i spent soooo much time in monad levelling personas. wont be able to do liz fight bc not doing ng+. (slightly related: ive played pee5 so many times and ive never actually tried the twins/lvnza/jose fights. vanilla 1 time, royal 1 time, royal again for a friends playthrough but its not ng+, ng+ for 100% royal but only up to exams...royal for another friend's playthru. lol)
yuka/mitsu is real. to me. theyre even the colors of the lesbian flag
i maxed most social links besides magician (bc hes annoying. surt wouldve been nice tho), mitsuru (got up to like 8 then ran out of time), fuuka (trapped at rank 1. dont like her enough, not enough time. sorry. i played with english voices u know how it is), yuko (accidentally reversed her), justice (i know. who would have thought. started her wayyy too late.), keisuke (hes soooo cute like. i wanna look like that tbh. but fortune isnt useful enough and i ran out of time)
speaking of social links i literally hate how they work in this game so so so so much. i dont want to date all these girls! let me hang out with other girls please... this is the biggest example of romance making all these games so much worse. like. what the hell. (aigis is like. the only good female social link (that i finished) (maybe bc she isnt very much a girl))
another mechanic i hate: NOT BEING ABLE TO PICK INHERITED SKILLS. is every ps2 era megaten game like this? i love love love 'sona/demon fusion but it is so much harder to make stupid crazy builds when u have to reroll over and over again. literally just a timewaster. what could have been...i cant believe my lucifer is still weak to ice. WHO USES PEESONAS WITH WEAKNESSES. IN THIS DAY AND AGE????
the extremely strange continuity with 1&2 is fucked up to like. nickelodean sitcom cinematic universe levels. u know.
im still fixated on 5.i make that very obvious. and i do like 5's overall story better (royal being a very big portion of that). but GOD i love love love the theming of this game.
those strega guys r definitely fucking. i literally do not care about them but thats kind of just a fact.
the concept of artificial personas (that kill you) (that u have to take meds for which eventually kill you) REALLYYYY fucks me up what a BANGER CONCEPT. JESUS! JESUS. gg kirijo group.
chidori...(wretched)
akinari... (very wretched)
i dont think i have a favorite. tbh. like i like mitsuru because i like women and shes hot but character wise shes not actually super my type. i like ken because hes the most fucked up ten year old in the world (justice bias). aigis is crazycrazy theres stuff to be said abt her (characters who give metatron bias). yukari is a mean girl and i like that about her (lovers bias). ryoji doesnt have that much screentime for obv reasons but thematically hes cool (guys who beg u to kill them bias). i like the protag a lot (protag bias). yeah
OBVIOUSLY i knew we were gonna die. and when. and where. and how. but :( head in aigis's lap, brushing away her robo-tears... didnt cry but wow this game.
joshua peefee christ figure moment
kimi no kioku is the best 'sona song. period. nyx (avatar)&nyx (nyx) songs go hard too. but man!!!! kimi no kioku!! LOVE how its kind of a motif in so many other parts of the soundtrack, especially near the end...a unifying melody, an overarching theme.
forever from now ill prolly watch the movies just so i can make an amv. this game needs an amv. and unlike pee5 the animovies should cover most of what id want to say in one!
after the answer, ill finally be able to finish eternalpun. im so sorry ive neglected you guys, my friends...my pee2s....
kimi wo i will never leave you <3
#bobtalk#good game#if i missed a censor and u see this in the tags. sorry. lol#at least its so long nobody will ever read this. except me. because i know
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