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richmond-rex · 5 months
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I know Elizabeth of York has met the person suspected of murdering the prince in the tower? It makes me curious. It is said that the Queen and her cousin Suffolk are very close, which makes me doubt whether this meeting is for her brother or cousin
Hi! There's actually no direct evidence that Elizabeth was 'very close' to Edmund de la Pole. He was often at court and they were cousins so it's likely that they saw each other and had opportunities to talk but there are no recorded gifts or office appointments from Elizabeth to him, so I wouldn't say they were particularly close like she was to his sister Anne (the abbess of Syon), for example, a cousin with whom she did indeed exchange gifts.
But to go back to your question, yes Elizabeth visited the Tower around the time Sir James Tyrell was imprisoned and interrogated there. No records from Henry's own reign say Tyrell was implicated in the death of Elizabeth's brothers — Tyrell was condemned for his participation in the conspiracy involving Edmund de la Pole — but Thomas More claimed that Tyrell, whilst imprisoned, confessed that Miles Forest and John Dighton killed the princes at his instance. This claim has been extensively doubted but new evidence recently discovered (2020) shows that More was in touch with the sons of one of the men he alleged to have carried out the murder for Tyrell, as he himself indicated in his text: 'as I haue learned of them that much knew and litle cause had to lye, wer these two noble princes [...] murthered'.
Whether Tyrell's real confession that Elizabeth heard was about the murder of her brothers or about her cousin Edmund's treasonous plans, it's interesting that almost immediately after hearing Tyrell's confession Elizabeth left the Tower and visited her aunt Elizabeth the Duchess of Suffolk at her house at Stepney (London). Tim Thornton, who recently wrote an article about it, says that 'the immediacy of this visit might suggest the importance of any revelations from Tyrell in the Tower, and Elizabeth’s desire to pass news of the princes’ fate to their aunt, the last survivor of their parents’ generation'. For the Duchess of Suffok, news of her son's treason could be equally — if not more — important so my opinion is that Elizabeth's visit is no evidence for the confession involving the murder of her brothers.
It's difficult to say though why Elizabeth would have been in any way invited to hear a confession about treasonous activities against her husband the king, when by that point there had been several and she had not been involved in any other of Henry's interrogations carried out in the Tower (Henry's willingness to take a personal role in the questioning of prisoners has been confirmed in other cases but never Elizabeth's). So we'd have to take into consideration both Elizabeth's extraordinary presence and her subsequential visit to her oldest remaining paternal relative.
Thomas More's claim about Tyrell's confession and the fact that he came in contact with the alleged assassin's sons is also very intriguing. A possibility as to why Tyrell was not publicly exposed after his confession is that it would reflect badly on Henry VII for not only allowing the princes' murderers to go unpunished for so long, but also actively favouring them/keeping their privileges intact. It's difficult to say. It's a kind of evidence that definitely does not 'prove' anything.
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nenenenely · 9 months
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Which movie they went to see on July 21
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sir-klauz · 2 years
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there’s a lot more jewellery and issues in there than expected
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toreii · 2 years
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I was gonna attempt to make another gif, but I don’t have the energy to do so. So, I clipped my favorite part of this episode instead. I’m on my lonely Henry x Richard ship, and I will sink with it when it’s time.
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musicalyeetreblr · 2 months
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elainiisms · 18 days
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"that character is straight" oh not by the time i'm done with them...
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grouptherapy. - “TrunkPoppers.com” (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
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partydown · 1 year
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Cast of Party Down at the season 3 premiere
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anneeeboleyn · 1 year
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okay but what if thomas cromwell pulled a ned stark and warned anne boleyn about the lies and charges they were about to hold against her to show her mercy and have her flee england so that henry viii could wed jane seymour ??? would anne have fled knowing henry's affections were dwindling anyways??? or would she pull a cersei and get cromwell killed somehow ??
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Gregory saying he’s an only child kinda bummed me out ‘cause I was hoping Tyrel would guest-star as his brother in one episode
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alexlacquemanne · 9 months
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Celebrating Dame Diana Rigg ❤ (20 july 1938 - 10 september 2020)
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oars · 3 months
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why would you give your sons such similar names 😭😭
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jamesmarsdenfan · 1 year
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Red Carpet of Starx's "Party Down" Season 3. Martin Starr, Zoë Chao, Jennifer Garner, Ryan Hansen, Rob Thomas, John Enbom, Jane Lynch, Megan Mullally, Tyrel Jackson Williams, James Marsden, and Ken Marino attend the Red Carpet Premiere Of STARZ's "Party Down" Season 3 at Regency Bruin Theatre on February 22, 2023 in Los Angeles, California. (Footage by New Vision/Getty Images)
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sir-klauz · 2 years
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Art done by original manga artist Aya Kanno of Henry/alias and new existence as James’ and Richard to celebrate the voice actor of Henry/James’ birthday, Hikaru
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toreii · 2 years
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Ok last one bc my phone can’t take it anymore and neither can I. Thank you, Aya Kanno, for giving me a good story and Henry🥲 Watch Requiem of the Rose King if you want, but I highly suggest you read the manga first!
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theanticool · 1 year
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Daniel James KOs Tyrell Fortune - Bellator 288
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