Do Palestinians typically see Israeli’s as white?

yeah. it's a white settler colonial state. the settlers are white. their interests are full of white supremacist ideals. they treat poc like shit. the settlers mostly come from europe and america. israel loves eugenics. it's whole thing is like. white.

People discussing Israel's racist policies and Israel's policy of fucking over non Rabbinic communities and fucking up the transmission of diaspora cultures (such as the teaching of languages) is not the time to go "we don't need gentiles in our intracommunity politics". Foundational to Israel is "maintaining a Jewish majority". These communities are attacked in lathe part because they are seen as not being as Jewish as White, Ashkie, Western European Jews (with respect to how Eastern European Jews are also often mistreated), or their Judaism is otherwise seen as deficient. The maintenance of this majority is also why Palestinians generally, cannot really get an Israeli citizenship, even if they wanted to, and sometimes even if they can prove they are of Jewish descent. "Who is a Jew and what is a Jewish culture" is a constructed boundary: for the past 70 odd years it has been a boundary used for violence. If you want anti-zionists to have politics informed by the needs of Jews, they must be party to these discussions.

How do you know if you’re antisemitic?

Well, if a Jew telling you you’re antisemitic won’t make you believe it, here is a guide to help you figure it out yourself.

1. Do you think Jews, en masse, are ACTIVELY REPLACING/ATTEMPTING TO REPLACE some other group — especially a somehow more deserving group? (For example, White people, Black people, African people, Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, indigenous people, etc.) Do you feel there are JUST TOO MANY JEWS IN A GIVEN LOCATION?

2. Do you think Jews are PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE NOT? (For example, White, PoC, “Real” Jews, Indigenous/Native, an Ethnic Minority, Devoted Citizens of [YOUR COUNTRY] etc.)?

3. Do you think Jews are CONTROLLING OR ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL SOME INTEGRAL ASPECT OF SOCIETY? (For example, the government, media, banks, business, medicine, etc.)

4. Do you think Jews that you criticize are UNIQUELY BLOODTHIRSTY OR GENOCIDAL — especially when hoping for personal achievement or cultural supremacy? (For example, trying to stage a global war so they can control the world; using/consuming blood of Christians and babies to do satanic rituals; sexually seducing non-Jews in order to contaminate bloodlines and erase other pre-existing identities; immigrating to a new location with the intention of murdering those who already exist there; desiring to murder Arabs, Muslims, or Palestinians in their homelands by means of genocide in order to control a region at the exclusion of other ethnicities, etc.)

5. Do you think Jews are APPROPRIATING A PRIVILEGE THAT THEY DO NOT DESERVE AND THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM? (For example, freedom, wealth, power, whiteness, G-d’s favor, a safe home in the Levant, Arab land, colonial power, representation as a minority group, etc.)

6. Do you think Jews at large or the specific Jews you disagree with and who wield power in a way you disapprove of CAN BE COLLECTIVELY LABELED? (For example, might you call them slaves, vermin, insects, dirty, scheming, communists, fascists, Nazis, satanic, Zionists, scum, etc.)

IF YOU ANSWERED YES TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS YOU ARE AN ANTISEMITE. This is literally textbook antisemitism. If you answered, well yeah but only “the Jews in Israel” or “the ones who vote for Bibi” or the “ones who moved to my town/country/region” or if you saw something on one of the lists and think “well no fair! That one is actually true,” your exception isn’t exceptional. You haven’t found the one true bad thing that Jews ACTUALLY are. It’s not some conspiratorial propaganda to equate reasonable beliefs with hate. You’re just hateful. Some part of you hates Jews. And you have to confront what that part of you is and you have to destroy it if you want to engage in any conversations that impact Jewish welfare anywhere in the world.

One way to start deconstructing is to ask yourself “Why do I feel this way?” “From whom did I learn to think this way?” “Who in my life approves and supports me thinking this way?” “Am I comfortable telling a Jewish person I feel this way in person?” “How do I think a Jewish person will feel/What do I think a Jewish person will think if I tell them this?” “Do I care what they feel or think? Why or why not?” “How would I feel/what would I think if someone felt this way or thought this way about me or an identity I value deeply?”

Ok, genuine question cus I'd like to understand. Yes, Biden is an awful person for supporting Israel. But if he loses the election and the US gets Trump, what then? Gaza keeps getting bombed, and on top of that you have gays, trans people, women and POC losing their rights, they'll likely withdraw support for Ukraine, and all the other shitty stuff Trump did, except likely worse because he and his fans are emboldened now. Not saying you support that, but help me understand the logic, please?

You people care only about the domestic policies of your country while we continue to suffer under your foreign policies. Biden has caused more pain and suffering than Trump in terms of his foreign policies THUS far. Harm reduction does not exist within the two party system and it is absolutely pointless to face against a system which has repeatedly caused our inevitable suffering.

You can organize, join a union, call your presentatives, make an effort to change rather than ascribing to this defeatist approach by yielding to the illusion of democracy under borgeoisie rule. The point is to build class consciousness, to teach the working class, and then, and only then, can a socialist revolution take place. It takes time, but every second is far more productive than a useless vote.

For any of you who even DARE to think about voting for trump just because of the war happening in Israel, this post is for you.

-First off trumps opinion on Israel is pretty much the same as Biden, in terms of sending money to them and being anti-gaza, https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna141905

-Let us not forget project 2025, I know a solid portion of palestine supporters are in the LGBTQ+ community, a vote for trump, is a vote to put your fellow queers in jail, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

-Another section of pro-palestinian people are POC, not only does project 2025 include the killing and jailing of POC just in general trump has a long history of hating POC, ex: he used to pay hotels and casinos to get rid of any black people who were currently there, https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/trump-casinos-black-employees/

-Now let's talk about Jews for palestine, trump is also extremely anti-semetic and has a history of being anti-semetic, atleast Biden cares about the Jewish people, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/trump-history-antisemitic-tropes/

-Muslims for palestine, trump wants to ban the ability for hijabis to wear the hijab, and for muslims in general to work and be in public, https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/trump-muslim-ban-gaza-refugees

Last if this has convinced you to not vote for trump I'm glad, this also applies to any republican running. DONT. VOTE. THIRD. PARTY. I don't know how many times I have to say this, it splits the leftist vote and gives trump or any republican for that matter a WAY better chance of winning the election, as much of anti-semetic you may be towards Israel, the only valid vote is for Biden.

I am sick to my fucking stomach. The Left is truly the Right, just in another font.

They are an actual cult......They are rewriting what is happening in Ivy League schools rn. They are even posting images of Jews with gentile protestors to convince themselves Jews aren't evil and also for tokenisation. Then they have the audacity to reblog stuff calling Germany antisemitic whenever the topic of Germany's treatment of Pro Palestine protestors come up or something of that sort then they call real antisemitism Zionist propaganda.....They are choosing to define antisemitism, something they cannot do for any other group (yes it's not a competition but the fucking hypocrisy of it all makes me so sick as a POC). They accuse Israel of constantly changing the definition but look at them! They only bring up antisemitism when it's convenient....oh wow yes those Jewish Anti-Zionists losing jobs for supporting Palestine is wrong but also hey saying all Israelis (who are Jews btw) should die is fine because they drink the blood of Palestinian babies (insert blatantly obvious antisemitism here) etc etc.

They refuse to speak up about Jewish students being unsafe to the point of Rabbis warning them to stay away from campus while screaming about genocide? How does that work? If you hate genocide logically you must be against the harassment of Jews? And yet.....

Hmm evidence that they just scream things without ever caring or meaning it. They have the same thinking of conservatives, the same behaviours and tactics, everything and the irony is completely lost on them.

God the amount of people on here I’ve, not just lost respect for, but become completely repulsed by in the last few days. People I share fandoms with who every so often would reblog those stupid “goblins are Jews so anybody who puts them in stories is antisemetic and should be shunned!!!” Which I usually just rolled my eyes and moved on. Those same damn people are on here justifying Jewish people getting slaughtered and kidnapped. And even if in their minds it’s truly just about “Israel vs Palestine”, not a fucking peep has been heard from any of them about the attacks now occurring to Jews around the world. “Punch Nazis! Listen to Jewish Voices! Be aware of antisemitism!” All goes out the window now I guess?

Gonna be setting everything to do with this situation to 'mature' and tagging "middle east mess" from here on in, this situation is far too much for lots of you and I get that I'm trying to balance things out best I can.

Go into your settings to the "content" filtering as well as "tag" filtering and punch in any terms you can think of to get most of this all off your dash.

Schrödinger's POC.

One thing I've come to realize in my observations over the years is the majority of the different activists, really loud ones at least, don't actually care about the causes they claim to care about, they don't actually want things to improve for people. Having perpetual victims while they themselves are not victims seems to let them look like they're trying to help and stand up for injustice and victimized people while still covertly looking down their noses at them.

Israel is a great example of that since they do a pretty good job mostly on their own surrounded by enemies on all sides, gotten a little less dangerous over the decades but they're still in the danger zone and generally still thriving.

That and they very rarely get involved in a difficult fight, much easier to virtue signal over a video game than it is when there's some fairly complex geopolitical forces at play. And hating Israel is the easier of the two routes to go in this one, you'll also be seeing the folks that say it's not Jews it's "Zionists" even if the overwhelming majority of Jewish people are Zionists.

Which hey, you're all entitled to your opinion but before you go and start bashing Israel on a hourly basis go ahead and look at all the other countries out there and see how you feel about them and decide if you honestly think you're judging them all by the same standard or if you're judging Israel (or any others) more harshly and then ask yourself why that is.

Amnesty went in to Ukraine at one point after several schools had been targeted by russia, amnesty pointed out all of the obvious signs that the ukrainian military had been using those schools as weapons cache's or staging grounds or any of a number of other military purposes and they declared that to be a big no no and properly laid the blame on the ukranian military and government. You made it a military target by putting troops there.

Oddly even though it's widely known that hamass does the same thing, somehow amnesty still goes after Israel who will "knock on the door" of places they're about to level that are legitimate military targets, if they're also civilian buildings. hamass using the roof of a building as a place for a communications array/radio tower they'll get a dummy bomb dropped in their lap and civilians have their 30 min notice to evacuate because it's going down in 30 min one way or the other, but somehow that's not good enough.

and Oh lord I was in the notes of a couple different post and people talking about the Jewish citizens of Israel not actually being the same people that are the indigenous population to that area, which dna tests have proven that wrong, but hey they're out there repeating talking points made up by goebels so remember that next time these people call someone else a nazi, granted they're stupid enough to call actual Jewish people nazis to their faces showing that they've really just turned that word into something that's on par with butthead at this point.

Circling back round, like I said most of these activists they don't want conditions to actually improve for anyone, because they won't be special little guys helping out the poor oppressed people, they'll just be ordinary.

Cancer researchers would be very happy if they got put out of a job, professional activists not so much.

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This is all beyond very tragic both for the people of Israel and the people of gaza who just want to live their lives free of fear and hate, it is interesting to see people doing 180's on their stances on things like rape and child murder/infanticide and such given who's doing it this time round, if I were Jewish I would be seriously reconsidering my position of I want everyone who wants to and can responsibly do so to own all the guns they like, but having one isn't for me.

I'd cut that last bit out, I'd be armed everywhere I go.

There's lots of issues on both sides of this conflict, but only one side went in to a music festival and murdered 260+ people and dragged off hostages to rape, torture, and maybe attempt to bargain with at some point if the mood strikes.

That's not something the good guys do.

Side note, I'm surprised I haven't seen a specific insult tossed out between members of the Jewish community who are on different sides of this issue, for the curious it's a german word and I'm not going to type it out.

Had someone throw that one at me once which confused me given my lack of being Jewish, loses all it's punch at that point.

the reason that the US treats the holocaust the way it does is so it can congratulate itself on "saving" jews from it and ending the holocaust. never mind that a huge reason so many jews died is bc the US basically wouldn't let us in after 2023 and we weren't able to escape Europe (many, many tried). Anyway the response to this isn't "stop thinking the holocaust is important" or "antisemitism isn't pervasive/non-Jews don't harbor subconscious antisemitism." Honestly your post is pretty gross and I've unfollowed. Sorry my intergenerational trauma no longer serves whatever political affiliation you have, and so now you have to minimize it as a reaction. Maybe Jews shouldn't be rhetorical tools at all. The Holocaust was a massive disaster to Jewish culture and soul and identity that will take centuries to heal from, and we never fully will. And none of that is what the US cares about. Be careful when you critique philosemitism you don't just veer into antisemitism instead. Because that's all philosemitism ever really was.

...why are you repeating everything I said back to me?

Me: ''The US governments

used philosemitism to weaponize the Holocaust by pushing a revionist narrative about their role in it

and making themselves look like the champion of Jews

to push their own military propaganda and deflect from their own ongoing war crimes and genocides

and turned antisemitism into a cudgel to attack anyone criticising Israel or the political establishment

(mostly BIPOC‚ so it looked like racism and anti-blackness mattered less)

all the while ignoring actual antisemitism or protecting their own Jewish citizens in any material way

as though the state had no role in empowering white Christian nationalism

because it served their purpose for Jews to migrate to Israel."

Some weirdo who can't read: ''you think antisemitism doesn't exist and the Holocaust doesn't matter??? Antisemite??"

I have better things to do than endlessly refute shit I never said nor implied and deal with your piss on the poor reading comprehension. This commitment to misunderstanding everything a PoC says and whitesplaining stuff we already said comes from your own racist suspicion and condescension. Dont let the door hit you on your way out.

Antisemitism is bad

Islamophobia is bad

Zionism is bad

Killing innocent people and taking hostages is bad

Blowing up civilian occupied places is bad

Genocide is bad

Hamas is bad

Israeli government is bad

Freeing hostages is good

Supporting Palestinian is good

Freeing Palestine is good

Hamas is NOT Palestine

Supporting Palestinians does not mean I support Hamas.

Wanting to free the hostages does not mean I support Israel.

For the love of god why do people not understand this? Why do people keep using gatchas and acting like you can only care about one thing?

Why does our government send billions to Israel but not to their own citizens?

Homelessness here is rampant. Towns are destroyed in fires. Indigenous people are freezing to death. POC communities are terrorized daily. Lgbtq people are losing rights. Women are losing rights. Working class people can barely afford to live by themselves.

But sure, send that much needed money to a country that is playing this war so carelessly.

Ukraine is still being invaded. There’s a genocide going on in Congo.

The only side that needs support are the civilians. They’re the ones suffering in this situation. Not just Palestinians and the Israeli hostages, but the working class people who live in countries that don’t support them.

People are fucking dying and all these governments see is statistics.

It is so frustrating how people in power lack basic empathy.

Every day I open social media or turn on the news I see suffering. I see videos of kids being injured, trapped, and grieving.

But Israel and the western world don’t see that. To them those people are just consequences of war. You’d think that after seeing their people slaughtered and kidnap they would want to prevent others from experiencing the same thing, right? Well they don’t care. They don’t give a fuck.

That’s the problem: politicians don’t give a fuck.

Hamas is a far right terrorist organization that kills Israelis AND Palestinians you fucking bloodthirsty ghoul

Pfft.

I think that the "fucking bloodthirsty ghoul[s]" are those who either rape/SA Palestinian child prisoners, endorse genocide, try to use a smaller group of Islamists (not "Islamic", Islamist, look the words up) and their actions to justify bombing an entire group of civilians and said children when since 1948 the Israelis, Americans, and British were all the ones responsible for the mass murder and economic exploitation of Palestinian people. Hamas kills for the goal of Palestinian liberation, which could only be acheived through violence of some sort bc of how big a military-facist entity Israel is. Israel kills to dominate, exterminate, humiliate, and colonize.

Especially when Hamas' kill count and ABILITY to kill as many people at once or in succession simply has never and can never compare to the Israelis' kill count. Which, btw, will/does include Black people and PoCs in America through the GILEE project.

Also, the "left" groups of Israel are not the same kind of liberals/moderates/leftists of the U.S., they are all still Zionist and fascist to some degree.

Oh, and those videos of Israelis mocking Palestinian deaths like blackface performances in the U.S., or those of Israelis watching the Gaza bombings? Yeah, the Israelis are the victims here.

Sorry-not-sorry for not just being on the genocidal, racist maniacs' side. Block me as compensation and self-care.

Look l know you hate us trannies and really wanna stick it to us by sharing an article about how “queer” is heterosexual now because all these ‘kids with blue hair’ are desperate for attention. But Gareth Roberts loathes POC and is a proud Zionist too. Odd.. did you not spot any of his articles complaining about the horrible “wokeness” of spotlighting racial minorities? Or look at his Twitter with a giant Israel flag banner? He’s far right. It doesn’t help TERFs’ PR when y’all praise far-right white men. That article was littered with red flags and it’s very telling that you couldn’t spot them (or didn’t care) and didn’t think to research this man whose voice you’re adamant to spread.

Me posting one thing by someone does not mean I agree w them on everything. But yeah in retrospect if I knew he was like that (and I didn’t) maybe I’d not post the article. Or maybe I’d come to the conclusion the article is important in its own right no matter who wrote it. But unless you see me actually supporting his other views, you can safely assume they’re not views I share. And I don’t hate trans people nor would I use the t slur tbh

https://www.tumblr.com/apollos-olives/736835865619365888/hello-if-this-question-is-too-personal-please?source=share

Hello! I’m the anon who asked for this information for my English final. I just wanted to thank you and every Palestinian and non Palestinian SWANA who provided insight into what it is like being under constant threat of Israel (or in the Palestinian’s case, constant occupation). It is unfortunate that this is the situation and it is unfair that the world does not care enough to help. Your stories actually brought me to tears because while my experience cannot even compare to what you’ve experienced in your lives, it reminded me of my family back home in Algeria. My grandparents grew up in an Algeria that was occupied by the French, and the pain inflicted upon them had lasting consequences on my family, one being the hyper vigilance instilled in my parents and to a lesser extent, my siblings and I, to be increasingly alert of westerners, particularly the French.

In high school, my school was going to France for a school trip (I lived in England at the time) and my grandfather refused to even entertain the idea of me entering France as an Algerian Muslim. He was always very paranoid about the French, and looking at the way France treats Muslims and POC… rightfully so.

I’m not sharing this with you because I feel that my family’s experience compares with those of the Palestinians, I guess I just wanted to say that its honestly really disgusting how deep the trauma of being occupied or colonised goes. How much the pain inflicted upon oppressed people affects them. It’s disgusting that this is happening in general.

Anyway, thank you so much to you and to every Palestinian who responded. Your words struck me deeply.

oh i completely understand how you can relate to how palestinians are suffering right now. generational trauma affects so many people, and i'm sorry that your family has gone through so much under the occupation of the french. your grandpa was very rightfully concerned, and there really isn't very many things that can heal trauma like that. i'm very glad that algeria is free now though, alhamdulillah.

thank you for asking earlier as well!! it was a great question and i'm glad i could help :)

I said it before and I will say it again: American "leftists," and other radlibs whether queer, PoC, or whatever, who vote for Genocide Joe because he's the "lesser evil," deserve Trump, and they deserve Trump for another four years and hopefully even more. I hope that he does win, and he does end up being the dictator they wet yourselves about, because these fucking selfish genocide-endorsing dogs deserve it.

absolutely. it's harsh justice but it's justice all the same. of course, even the likes of trump won't be able to wreak on american minorities what israel is causing on palestinians of all ages, religions and genders. genocide is just on a whole different scale of horror that the west will never be able to fully experience and comprehend, and perhaps that's precisely why we feel so safe, secure and far removed from the atrocities that israel is unleashing in gaza. what saddens me even more is that we convinced ourselves that muslims and palestinians deserved that fate of utter annihilation and torture because in our racist warped perspective they are "used" to that degree of violence, as they're by nature antidemocratic, terroristic and belligerent, allegedly. so it doesn't even shock us when we learn that roughly 30,000 palestinian civilians have been killed since october 7th. it's just a number but we cannot pin down a single face among them. not one palestinian loss feels personal to the desensitized western audiences. as opposed to israeli or western lives which, by contrast, appear so priceless and precious, not because they're necessarily worthier, but because they appear so... similar to us. culturally, ethnically, anthropologically, israeli lives remind the western audiences of themselves, hence why western civilization cannot possibly allow for those to be forfeit so easily. if israelis started dying at the same alarming rate as palestinians have been dying, it would be a sore defeat for the western block (at whose head we find, as per, the u.s.a.) on the cultural influence battlefield, more than the military one (seeing as in that regard there isn't even a real palestinian counteroffensive in the proper military sense of the term). it's disgusting really, it leaves me totally disheartened, how the sanctity of life has been undermined and belittled by self-serving political agendas that couldn't care less about the civilians' well-being and safety. to them they're just stepping stones that can be easily trampled to get where they wanna go.

I don’t think most non-Jews understand how disappointed we are in the left right now. How completely abandoned we’ve become. How our contributions to progress for other groups have been erased or disavowed or hidden. How the actual tangible things that Jews have contributed to black rights and civil rights are being ignored. How we’re being told we contribute and have contributed nothing.

How we are being told that the world has been kind to us when it never has. As if my mom didn’t grow up getting called a Kike and getting beat up for being Jewish. How I thought I had friends until I caught them saying “xyz was beautiful until Jews showed up.” How people told me I was pretty “for a Jew.” How I grew up hearing stories about bombs being set off in Israel in buses and markets. How I couldn’t even go two weeks without hearing that and how nobody cared and somehow, every time that happened, the whole world became more hostile to me for some reason.

I just don’t understand. I don’t understand what leftists are doing. Or why. I hate that I have to say—of course, I support a free and self determined Palestine (which I truly do)—in order for you to decide I’m worthy of care and support.

We showed up for you. All of you. And the entire movement is abandoning us at best or targeting us at worst. Celebrating our deaths. Saying we deserved it. How are we supposed to trust you ever again? How are we supposed to feel safe ever again?

A very few select people who are in my life have taken the chance to actually learn about and dismantle their own unconscious antisemitism during this time. And I’m eternally grateful for them. But most people haven’t reached out at all. Most people are still sharing hateful things that could get me hurt and they don’t care. Most people Reblogging my posts are still Jews. Because we are alone. And it sucks. You need to be as loud about antisemitism as you are about Palestine or you’re an antisemite (unless you’re Arab/Muslim/Palestinian—I totally get that these groups are also doing damage control in their own communities just like Jews are).

But we are all in tremendous pain right now.

This moment will pass. And when it does, I will remember how many people let me down. I will remember that when I needed support more than I’ve ever needed it in my life, people fucking vanished. They pretended violence against my people wasn’t happening. They ignored and rewrote the history of Israel to suit their own narratives.

You don’t know what it feels like to be hated this much for opposite things. PoC hate us for being too white. White supremacists hate us for not being white enough. Europeans hate us for being middle eastern. Middle easterners hate us for being western/European. Everyone hates us for being settlers but continually kicks us out of their countries so that we have to settle somewhere else.

I saw a post going around from a Black person who said that the reason he and his fellow black activists go protest for Palestinians instead of fighting antisemitism (as if it’s a binary, which it’s not) is that Jews don’t show up. Muslims and Palestinians do. And honestly? Fuck that guy. Heather Heyer died standing shoulder to shoulder against racism in 2017. [CORRECTION: When I first wrote this post I was under the impression that Heather Heyer was Jewish. I want to correct to avoid spreading misinfo. She was just the first (and incorrect) Jewish civil rights activist I thought of. However there are plenty of other actual Jewish civil rights activists to choose from. If you have reblogged this post from me, please feel free to add a link to the permalink version of this post with my correction to your reblog.]I have devoted substantial time and effort and money that I don’t even get paid a lot of because I don’t get paid a living wage. I have continually reached out to PoC people in my life of all religions to ask how they are doing and what I could be doing to help more—both for them personally and how they would best like me to help their community. I have elevated their voices at every opportunity. And not one person I checked in with has done the same for me or for my community.

And it’s bone chilling. It’s awful. And it’s even worse knowing that when it’s over, people will want to go back to normal. They won’t apologize. They won’t self reflect. They’ll just live their lives, maybe a little more aware of how much they hate us and completely indifferent to the harm they’ve caused us. How disposable they made us feel. And the thing is…it’s not hard for you to know. You just have to ask.

Too many people are cowards. Too many people care about looking good than actually learning something or making the world better. And to those people: you should be ashamed of yourself.

I don’t have any hate in my heart. Truly. Not a drop for any group of people. But I have a tremendous lack of trust that anyone would actually lift a finger to keep me safe.

I don't want to accuse Sjm of Zionism, there is simply not enough evidence and it is a severe accusation because of the state of Palestine right now and can very easily be blatantly Anti-Semitic. But I do want to say with her track record of being racist, misogynistic, homophobic and with a tendency to write her white main characters as conquerers and colonizers (Its not confirmed but we can all get a picture of Feysand being primed for High King and Queen) it does rub me wrong.

Not to mention a lot of ToG has that same undertone. There's a conversation between Aelin and Rowan where they talk about conquering more lands after taking back Terrasen and she says that if she gets “bored of being queen she will conquer and gain more land to be empress". And once again I'm not saying this to accuse her of Zionism, but it doesn't feel right and Sjm is known to write in a way that mirrors her personal beliefs. I say this with only regards to her actions (through her writing) and not her beliefs as a Jewish woman.

There's nothing wrong with visiting her family in Israel, or even having a grandmother that still volunteers at a military base because that's her grandmother's actions and not hers. There is something wrong with the fact that she wrote Aelin as someone who's "taking back" her country and then contemplating conquering more. And Feysand possibly being High King and Queen when they treat PoC coded Illyrians like they're savages and you don't see them outside of the Mountains unless they're dying for Rhysand on the battlefield. It just all feels very colonizer to me.

I hope I'm not coming off as rude, the issue of Palestine is very close to my heart and reading ToG and Acotar and seeing some things mirrored in them has always kind of remained unsettled with me and I would love to hear your opinion on it.

Hi anon! Nope, you’re not rude! :) So a big disclaimer: I am a Black American. Any analysis I can offer on this is through that lens, fortunately or unfortunately. That being said:

While the pro-imperialist, pro-colonialist, and pro-"both sides" themes PERMEATING Sarah's writing do likely point to her beliefs or biases (even unconscious, internalized ones she has), so do the artistic works of many white creators, often in way worse and way more blatant ways than Sarah's books. How many of tumblr's beloved “children’s shows” feature the imperialist/colonizers/genocide committing villains be shown as redeemable, as sympathetic, and worthy of redemption while simultaneously declaring any victims of colonization/genocide who have the audacity to fight back as the REAL bad guy, or just as bad as their oppressors? And not just children’s shows—so much media in general has this same theme, where the colonizers are more redeemable than the colonized, often including a cautionary tale warning oppressed peoples to “be careful” in our liberation efforts so we don’t become “just as bad.” (See my on media tag for a lot of discussion on this, among other things.) Our media—our books, our television shows, our movies— are, unfortunately, FULL of colonizer/imperialist apologia. Full of some “they’re human too!” nonsense that I am TIRED of having shoved down my throat. My point is, Sarah's writing is more likely due to her being a white woman in western society rather than any support of what’s happening to Palestinians. She’s one white creator among many, and merely exists as a symptom of a greater problem in our society and white fans who argue that pointing this out and critiquing this disgusting trope of “oppressor is redeemable and sympathetic and HUMAN but oppressed aren’t” in their favorite cartoon is being a ~toxic anti puritan~ make this worse. So does her writing point to her own biases about the nature of oppression? Yes, but in a way that appears to be no different than most media made by white people in the West, and unrelated to her thoughts on the Israel-Palestine conflict specifically. But yes please be unsettled because these ideas are ALARMINGLY present in media.

Hmm no offense but as a Muslim child of Chechen (Dagestan) refugees your tone is coming across as minimizing?and as if Russia's crimes are equivalent or lesser to Israel? Yh it's hypocritical but it's 100% justified that Russia shouldn't be part of anything. indigenous POC are exposing how Russia is forcing them to fight in the invasion and overall how Russian colonialism has kept these communities under mass poverty and erased their language history/religion/etc for centuries (my parents were forcefully kicked out of the mosque their community had built clandestinely) to the point where many POC communities have been completely genocided and gone extinct. Russia itself is a huge christian. white supremacist settler state that's stolen and occupied much more land and displaced many more indigenous people. I don't trust any white person who's like "free Palestine" and then never bring awareness to the struggles of their indigenous peoples in their own land. How can I know fr you actually care about Muslim and Christian Jewish Palestinians and don't just hate the Jews if you don't even bother to atone for the crimes which you as an individual profit from committed by your own people against indigenous minorities?? Where's that "death to Israel" energy when it's about other colonizer states?? Why are you so much more fervent about Israel than white countries?? Do you actually care about Palestinians or is that all just performative. I can tell you're young but reflect PLEASE.

I live on colonised land and I'm aware of crimes Russia has committed, and I didn't say it wasn't justified that Russia was excluded from Eurovision. My entire point was that the event is performative and does not care for people who aren't white.

I do not spend time talking about politics here because I'm not a political blog. When I have a chance to correct someone or raise awareness on the way indigenous folk of my homeland live, I do that.

I recognize my mistake by not realizing the way other white european countries are supportive of continued oppression against Palestine, and I apologize for my ignorance. That was not my intention of those replies and tags at all.

You have a full right to be upset with me and critcize me, but I'm not saying anything out of malice.