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shadowboxmind · 8 months

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Maybe a hot take, but I don't think the Traveler was being inconsistent or out of character in the last archon quest at all. People are getting upset at their reaction to Lyney and Lynette's behavior from the perspective of players, with meta knowledge of the story that the Traveler, the character, doesn't have.

The players know, for example, that because they're playable characters, Lyney and Lynette are ultimately friendly and on "our" side, and we can also trust that what they told us about their backstory is true. The Traveler does not have that knowledge.

TO BE CLEAR this post is talking about my thoughts on the TRAVELER'S thought process. If we want to talk about how I personally would have reacted to the situation, I'm an overly trusting bleeding-heart who would absolutely get scammed and probably murdered by Fatui in this universe.

(Also characters, even main characters who you normally like, can do things you disagree with and that doesn't mean they're badly written. I mean, sometimes they are, but I don't think that's true in this particular case)

But think about it! Looking at the entire situation from an in-universe, in-character POV, it's a really bad look for Lyney and Lynette overall, because here are the facts as the Traveler is aware of them:

Lyney and Lynette are not only members of the Fatui, the primary antagonistic force in this story, but are specifically members of the House of the Hearth, which is known to specialize in espionage, subterfuge, and sabotage.

Both of them also work in a field that would further require them to be masters of misdirection, audience manipulation, and drama.

They "coincidentally" ran into the Traveler right as they arrived in Fontaine and immediately began to do them favors and be very friendly, including saving them from Furina, bringing them to meet their family, and gifting them VIP tickets to Lyney's show.

During the trial, the twins withheld key information, and not just about their identities (and listen, I get it, I fully empathize with why they did it, I get the reasoning, but it's still a bad look when it gets figured out) but also about what they were doing in the tunnel.

They admitted that the entire magic show was a ruse to do, guess what? espionage! To break into the room with the Oratrice's core and find out how it works. To, through subterfuge, obtain Fontaine's secrets about the nation's most important mechanism and central source of power.

The Traveler has known these people for like, a day total.

So what conclusions might the Traveler draw from these facts? When the evidence shows that Lyney and Lynette have a record of misdirection and obfuscation for their own ends? When the Traveler has no way of knowing if even their initial meeting was orchestrated for an ulterior purpose? How are they supposed to know if the tragic backstory is even true, or if that's just Lyney trying to win back some favor and sympathy? In my opinion, at that moment, they don't. Hence the coldness.

My interpretation of events is that the Traveler does like the twins, and wanted to keep liking them, but was struggling to reconcile their initial impression of two friendly magicians with the realization that these two friendly magicians were dishonest with them for most of the time they'd known each other, so they needed to have some space to figure that out.

And for those saying the Traveler is inconsistent, here's the thing: they still helped Lyney. They still acted as his attorney, investigated thoroughly, won the case, and cleared his name. They've done similar for other Fatui members in their acquaintance—they helped Childe with Teucer, they helped Scaramouche/Wanderer with getting his memories back, they helped that other member of the House of the Hearth fake her death and escape the organization—whether or not they fully trusted them, and generally they didn't.

As for the Traveler's supposed hypocrisy, my view of their relationship with Childe is that it's only improved because, despite Childe trying to nuke Liyue in the past, the Traveler knows that

a. They can handle him if it comes down to a fight again; b. He likes them, regardless of if the feeling is mutual or not, and is indeed aggressively friendly to the point where it's easier to just be civil; c. Childe is generally upfront and honest about his actions and will strike from the front, not stab them in the back; and d. He's worked together with them before when they had a common goal (for example, the labyrinth they went through with Xinyan).

They know how his mind works and what motivates him. Childe is a known quantity, the twins are not, and it took in-story time and shared experiences for the Traveler to get to even this point of neutrality; they were openly suspicious of him during his story quest.

As for holding his Vision for him, the Traveler didn't exactly volunteer for the job, Childe literally threw it at them with no warning and peaced out. What do you expect them to do, drop it in the sea? That would be inconsistent with their characterization.

Wanderer's whole situation is even weirder, since the Traveler was able to experience his actual memories and emotions and therefore has good reason to trust that he's had a genuine change of heart. Not to mention that they're not friends, I'd argue they're in that same nebulous "neutral" zone, and that only because Nahida usually functions as a buffer (and also because, again, the Traveler knows that they can handle Wanderer in a fight, and Wanderer also tends to be blunt and honest).

Also, in Lyney's story quest it seems like everyone got over their problems pretty fast and they're all chummy now, so you can all rest easy that the twins' feelings weren't too hurt about it.

Anyways if you disagree go ham, refute my points, whatever, just keep things civil.

#is there a designated spoiler tag idk #genshin impact #4.0 spoilers #hi non genshin-liking friends i promise i won't be doing this regularly #i just like to think about character relationships #ace attorney ass quest #genuinely rather disappointed that there was no... tension between them in lyney's story quest. like at all #the last time y'all saw each other was dramatic and depressing right after his murder trial and now you're just pals 'n' buddies #and maybe more considering how heavily they imply that lyney is flirting with the traveler #maybe they'll touch on it (the Drama) in the next archon quest #now that would be inconsistent writing with the story quest but whatever #i read comics i'm used to it #shadowboxtalks #speaking of the story quest i said out loud at several points 'oh yeah you're definitely a fatuus'#all that about not forgetting debts #and 'oh yeah you're definitely from the house of the hearth'#sneaky little shits (affectionate)

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ghosted-jazz · 6 months

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Traffic Gals- Introducing Gem!

#secret life #secret life smp #zombiecleo #geminitay #pearlescentmoon #ldshadowlady #trafficblr #traffic smp spoilers #traffic spoilers #life series spoilers #SEASON 5 AND IT MEANS IM BACK ON MY BULLSHIT LETS GOOOOOOOOOO #My Gem design is basically just a dorito. She is a rounded triangle to me in the same way that Pearl is a stick #I watched some episodes half way through drawing this and im going feral RHHRHRHHR #idk what the offical spoiler tag is so im just- using as many as i found ig #my art

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haljathefangirlcat · 2 months

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Charlie + picking up and twirling her badass spear-wielding former Exorcist gf

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel edit #chaggie #charlie x vaggie #vaggie x charlie #charlie morningstar #charlie magne #charlie hazbin hotel #vaggie #vaggie hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel spoilers #is that tag still warranted? frankly idk #my gif #my edit #thinking about how vaggie's design was (originally?) inspired by moths but she's actually rather cat-like #... in that she used to be god's (well. adam's at least) perfect killing machine #but charlie would absolutely pick her up just to kiss her little face

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asuuree · 1 month

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needed to get my take on a human loop design out here...

a design sketch under cut!

#in stars and time #in stars and time spoilers #isat spoilers #act 6 spoilers #isat loop #isat siffrin #might change some things later idk #i just designed them based on how i would design one of my own ocs :)))#hello to the one person reading these tags: sorry for my handwriting...#i wanna make a comic about them wearing the hat too #my next isat drawing will probably feature the gang or your money back (you didnt pay anything...)#my art

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archivedible · 3 months

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#thought i would bang out some magnus protocol character designs #im probably gonna change these but !!#idk what the fandom issued designs look like i havent seen the tag #tmagp #tmagp fanart #the magnus protocol #magnus protocol #none of this is spoilers really but ill tag it incase #tmagp spoilers

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clarissasbakery · 1 month

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i love them so much

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joshuamj · 3 months

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I am so excited for the Magnus Protocol yall dont understand

#the magnus protocol #tmagp #alice dyer #sam khalid #samama khalid #tmagp spoilers #the magnus protocol spoilers #< i mean not really but still just in case #josh art tag #i love sam and alice sm already #and i like my sam design but idk about alice #for the life of me i could not figure out what she would wear #magnuspod

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sonknuxadow · 7 months

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the halloween special was soo cute but i was a bit disappointed sonic was the only one who didnt have a costume and obviously i had to fix that so here have a quick edit 👍

#im not very good at designing outfits so i decided to give him one of his already existing halloween costumes that hes worn before #and the only two options in that category are vampire and werehog. and charmy was already dressed as a vampire #so i went with werehog so everyone would have different costumes from eachother #idk if this edit is good or convincing at all but oh well i tried #sonic the hedgehog #sth #can i tag this as #sonic the werehog #?#idw sonic #idw sonic spoilers #my art #my edits

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verflares · 18 days

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some body type + colour practice feat dragon (chicken) zeldie... and of course link my good friend link

#this is like. a 2nd attempt i guess??? lol. definitely further along on the beastily spectrum #idk if im 100% satisfied with it though... i DO think shes cute and you can look at it and be like “oh yeah thats half-dragon zelda :)”#but idkkkk i guess im like conflicted. ill try drawing her taking a deer down or something working off this design lmao #princess zelda #zelda #link #light dragon #totk #link totk #zelda totk #zelink #a smidge of it. because im insane. you may or may not see more of them (specifically half-dragon zeldie/link) Soon.#my art #totk spoilers #dragon zelda #loz #loz fanart #wow i forgor so many tags last night 😭

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torrentofhermits · 1 year

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ive never drawn any of these ppl before actually fun fact

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mothscotch · 4 months

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screenshot redraw (>‿◕)~☆

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cartooncrazyart · 2 years

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Loving the variety in soulmate dynamics so far lol

[image description: 3 sketches of several players from Double Life SMP.

The first is of Impulse and Bdubs, holding each other happily under a banner that says “JUST MARRIED”, holding their left hands up to reveal a green thread hanging between their ring fingers.

The second is of Grian and Scar under the same banner, with Grian staring aghast at the ground as his left arm is pulled by the green thread tied around his wrist. On the other end of the string is Scar, who is walking off happily, arm in the air and his cat, Jellie on his head.

The third is of Scott and Cleo, holding hands defiantly in front of the banner which has been rewritten to now say “JUST DIVORCED”. Scott is holding a chisel-tip marker in his other hand and Cleo is holding scissors in hers, and they both have cut green threads hanging from their wrists. Behind them, Pearl is looking sad and confused, while Martyn shrugs, turned away. End ID]