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oh-look-another · 2 months
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i'm a sucker for narrators who are like,,, part of the narrative. they're a part of the story. they may or may not be fundemantal to it, but they influence it one way or another.
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altarwaiting · 5 months
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musical theatre challenge: 3/4 onstage pairs | the baker & the baker's wife (into the woods) 
We've changed, we're strangers I'm meeting you in the woods Who minds what dangers? I know we'll get past the woods
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ecoamerica · 25 days
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essegigi · 10 months
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EDIT: Here's a better quality version!
Friendly reminder that the professionally filmed Into the Woods with the original Broadway cast is up on YouTube in its entirety
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little-lovett · 9 months
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“have charity toward the world, my pet…”
“yes! yes! i know, my love!”
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lilpaprikajr · 7 months
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Cinderella comforting Little Red Footage source: [x]
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sgtprophet · 7 months
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So, as we know, Into The Woods is a satire. It is as some level making fun of fairytales. However, I actually think that the most satiric song in the musical is Little Red Riding Hood’s ”I know things now”. Let me explain.
As I said, a lot of the jokes in the musical are slightly making fun of the logic in fairytales, like ”You can talk to birds?”, or ”Two of her tears wetted his eyes and restored his vision”.
So why is Little Red’s number satiric? I mean, she is just talking about how she has learnt new things and will be careful in the future. Well, if we actually take a look at what happened to her, she might just be one of the most traumatized characters in the show.
First off, she is catcalled on the way to her grandma, I hope most ’ know that ”Hello, little girl” is supposed to have some weird sexual undertones since the story is about how kids should not follow predators. Right after that, she does not only find out how her grandmother is dead and eaten up, she also gets eaten up, just to come back.
Later in the musical, we even find out how her mom and grandma has died, and we can assume that both of them are her only guardians, because why wouldn’t she just move in with a father at the end?
However, after a day that would scar someone for life, the song ”I know things now” is basically just her brushing the whole situation off and saying to herself how she will do better next time. I think this makes fun of most fairytales since most of them do not really focus on how the character is mentally.
Rapunzel in the musical is also brings this up but in another way, she is actually a pretty realistic character in the show:
”You just locked me in a tower without company for fourteen years, then blinded my prince, and banished me to a desert where i had little to eat and again no company and then bore twins. Because of the way you treated me I will never ever be happy…”
Sry if this is too long but I never saw someone mention this but I love this musical and wanted to talk about how smart it is.
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readingrobin · 1 year
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Saw the touring production of Into the Woods today and, oddly, I think my favorite part of it was just seeing the audience's responses:
-The sheer confusion of someone near me after Act I was over who said "We have an hour and forty minutes left. What could possibly be left?"
-Naturally all the laughs and everyone fawning over the amazing Milky White puppet.
-The huge, collective gasp everyone made when they see what happens to the Baker's wife after 'Moments in the Woods.'
-Hearing a group of kids leaving and getting so jazzed talking about their favorite bits and songs.
It was amazing to see the reactions of people where this was their first experience of an almost forty year old musical, and that it's still so easy to connect with. It's as timeless as any fairy tale it's trying to subvert and comment on. I don't know, this may just be coming from someone who hasn't been to a theatre in so damn long and loved finally being in the audience again.
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vampirewhomcgraw · 7 months
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My love <3
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asentienthaze · 1 year
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Into The Woods: Why the movie was shit
I'm not the first person to talk about this, nor will I be the last. It's pretty widely accepted among theatre fans that Disney bungled up this fantastic show. But it's important nevertheless to talk about how it went wrong, 'cause adaptations are delicate things, and the core of a good adaptation is an understanding of the themes and messages that constitute the story, and not just the story itself. Stephen Sondheim and James Lapine together wove a fairly meticulous fabric that is this musical, and it's fascinating to see how Disney's adaptation reduced it to rags.
For a summary of this show's plot, I recommend watching the first few minutes of Sideways' video on the themes in this show, mainly because it's a fairly complex plot and he explains it well. This is especially important, since the plot of the movie is……definitely not the same.(The whole video is definitely worth a watch too, and it brings up points that I might talk about here too.) Done that? Good, let's keep going.
"The narrator comes on stage, and he starts, 'Once upon a time.' Now once he says that, the audience starts to relax inside. Now what I wanted to do was to wake them up immediately, so before [the narrator] gets to the fifth word, I wanted a loud sound from the orchestra, or the piano"
That was Stephen Sondheim talking about the very beginning of the show. The choices he made in the songs were almost all deliberate, they were for a reason.
Now what does the movie do? They say the entire first line of the song before playing the musical sting. They knew that they had to have that there, since it was part of the prologue song, but they didn't understand at all why the song was structured the way it was.
Let this be an omen as to how the movie will adapt this musical.
Another important part of the first song is the constant quarter note motion the piano makes throughout. It's what keeps the energy of the first song going, and is the song's connective tissue. Guess what the movie didn't do? As a result, it makes the prologue feel like five different disconnected small songs.
The main problem that the adaptation suffered, was the removal of seemingly small things, but which ultimately led to the plot of the movie collapsing in on itself.
The first major one is the removal of the narrator and the baker's father. Yes, the movie technically had a narrating voice, and the father got….like one scene, both played much more prominent roles in the original musical. The baker's father, initially a mysterious old man, pulled many of the threads that made the various characters really interact, and he's an outside force helping move the story along. As for the narrator…well it's important to note that the narrator is a character. A major feature of the show is that it's a story with characters, and the show knows that. The narrator dictated how the story would go, and when the witch sacrifices him to the giant, the characters are left to fend for themselves, and that is how most of the destruction in the second act really happens.
The second one is Rapunzel's death. In the musical Rapunzel is crushed by the giant, and it leads to Witch's Lament:
"This is the world I meant. / Couldn't you listen? / Couldn't you stay content, safe behind walls / As I could not?"
An important thing to note is while yes her relationship with Rapunzel is definitely toxic, there's a complexity that arises out of her over sheltering Rapunzel to protect her, and then as a result she comes to despise that "shelter", and is then ultimately killed. The fact that she is grieving the loss of her daughter plays largely into her character in the second act, something that is entirely lacking in the movie. SO MANY OF HER LINES get undermined by this one detail, that Rapunzel never died, and that she was wrong the whole time.
Lastly, songs that were cut. There are four main ones that are important to talk about.
First, Maybe They're Magic. It's sung right after the Baker and his wife sell the beans to get the cow. It's the first time the question of whether or not they'll really have to lie and possibly steal to obtain the items, and what the ethics of it really are, arises. It also exemplifies the character of the Baker's Wife, and her more clever side, which we further see when she obtains her items mostly through either deceit or persuasion. This glimpse into her character helps set her up for 'Moments in the Woods', a song much later which also expresses her inner thoughts.
Two: Ever After/Prologue: So Happy. This is how the show ends its first act and begins the second. In the movie the events in the second act occur immediately after the wedding, while in the musical there is a time gap between the acts. The music is referenced in the instrumental track, but it's never actually sung. Although the songs are definitely very much suited for a theatrical performance, cutting both the songs means that the resulting events that occur within them have to be shuffled and rearranged. The way that the characters make their way into the woods changes, and the prince and Rapunzel run off together much later, which doesn't allow for their later scenes to ever happen in the movie. It's where the cracks in the movie start to show, and ultimately the way the decisions made for earlier parts snowballs into the later parts of the movie.
Three: Agony Reprise. Agony as a song is famous from both the movie and the show. However the reprise happens in the second act, when it turns out the two princes are not focused on the giant, but in fact on another maiden somewhere else, much like how they were in the first act. Except now they're married. Removing this song is basically like telling a joke without the punchline. Yes, Agony by itself is funny, but it's the perfect setup for its reprise. As the plot stood in the movie, it's clear why it couldn't be put in, but,,,like that's the problem. That's the whole problem
Finally: No More. This song is the one I'm most mad that they cut out. It's the final interaction the Baker has with his father, just after he runs away leaving his baby son with Cinderella. The movie,,,,badly paraphrases it, and then cuts to the Baker,,,,,crying? There's no actual emotional development, no actual introspection, and it removes one of the best written scenes in the show.
"Where are we to go?
Where are we ever to go?
Running away—we'll do it
Why sit around, resigned?
Trouble is, son
The farther you run
The more you feel undefined.
For what you left undone,
And more, what you left behind"
I implore you, watch this scene, if nothing else. It's a work of art, and the fact that it's completely cut out is a crime.
Pretty much every character in the movie became a duller and flatter version of their original, but the most egregious examples are Jack and his mother. Jack is older in the show, significantly so. He's basically in his late teens, and is sweet and naive, but not particularly bright. In the movie, however, he's,,,,a child. Like just straight up a child, and now his personality is no longer "too ungrounded for his age" but instead it's exactly how a child his age might act. Conversely, Jack's mother is overbearing, but ultimately 'stern but sweet', and is much more gentle with Jack than in the movie. In the movie though, she's mean and almost callous towards Jack, in a way that doesn't make her an enjoyable character.
I won't blame the actors for most of this. Yes, a point can be made that some of the acting itself may have been bad, but most of the fault in what I've talked about goes to the directors and script writers.
In every adaptation, choices need to be made. Since this was no longer a theatrical performance, liberties had to be taken to fit it into a film format. But each choice has a consequence, and their choices to change parts of the story snowballed into the climax of the movie, making it almost entirely different from the musical.
We talk about Into The Woods as a Sondheim show, but it is just as much a show by Lapine as it is by Sondheim. Lapine's ability to craft a story with strong and clear themes, no matter how complex or abstract the plot is, is one of the show's greatest assets. The movie was a disservice to original stage musical, but most of all it was a disservice to Lapine, taking his carefully crafted story and muddling and twisting it, until the end product had killed the central spirit of the original.
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Favorite Sondheim lyric... Go!
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sparkleface42 · 1 year
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THIS IS SO FUNNY TO ME
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rosecape · 1 year
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into the woods (1987) // ghost quartet (2015)
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arcadialedger · 1 year
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Two revivals starring the beautiful Phillipa Soo having to compete at the same Tony Awards is my villain origin story.
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little-lovett · 9 months
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sweeney 2023 sweenett gets so frisky and blatant at times it is WILD😭😭
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sapphic-girls · 2 years
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I'm not good
I'm not nice
I'm just right
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sgtprophet · 6 months
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How Into The Woods defines ”Nice”
I love how Into The Woods uses the word ”Nice”. Throughout the whole musical, we can see that it sees the word as something that may seem sweet, but deep down only makes it seem “good” to cover up how morally wrong it actually is.
I think one of the biggest telling to the word ”nice” is this line in Little Red’s ”I Know Things Now”:
”Nice is different than good”
She basically had a whole number on why you should always do right even if something else seems nice, hence the lyric.
Just some songs after this number, we can see the usage of this word coming up again in Cinderella’s ”A Very Nice Prince”. This is foreshadowing to her future husband cheatinh on her in act 2. Even the actor of Cinderella’s prince also plays the wolf, another character being described as ”nice.”
“Last Midnight” however, has a powerful lyric which completely describes the whole musical.
”You’re so nice. You’re not good, you’re not bad, you’re just nice. I’m not good, I’m not nice I’m just right.”
She is telling them that saving Jack might seem like the good thing to do, when in reality, the good thing to do (except for killing the giant that they to in the end) is to sacrifice Jack to safe everyone else.
The whole musical’s entire moral is basically how no one is truly good, we’re all just ”nice”. Even the fairytale characters who seemed to get their happy end and the consequenses being basically non-enxistent to them.
We try our best to do what seems good for our situation but end up not seeing the bigger picture and picking the wrong choice, because it is the ”nicest”.
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