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post-modern-prometheus · 3 years

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random (and sometimes outlandish) st4 theories that have minimal basis for anything but i just wanna put them out there just in case i'm right so i can say i called it:

*keep in mind not all these are connected lol

-nancy and victor kreel are like clarice sterling and hannibal lector: he respects her and she has a begrudging admiration for him

-oh but also victor kreel kills karen and ted because of nancy (in the epilogue)

-the mind flayer forces will to come out to mike because it remembers how he feels about him

-dustin is the most upset about lucas ditching the party to go be a jock, and it's surprising and jarring when dustin starts yelling at him. the fight ends up getting physical (dustin starts it)

-steve spends the entire season trying to set up robin with a girl, only for robin to take pity on the sweet himbo and tell him that not only does the girl have a crush on him but robin herself is also dating el's kind-of-sister now

-max, lucas, mike, and dustin go to your stereotypical high school party and everyone but max gets drunk (she won't because of neil and billy) (mike is a lightweight)

^lucas' teammates try to pull him away from his friends which pisses off dustin

-mike is in the woods with chrissy for some reason when the demogorgon kills her. he's seen fleeing the scene with blood all over his hellfire club t-shirt. this is why he runs away to the byers'

-el's powers aren't working because they are- only they're fighting off the mind flayer trying to possess her

^she uses her powers to stop one of her friends from being killed, which allows to mind flayer to possess her

-connecting the mike is a suspect for murder and el is possessed ones, mike (and will) get arrested and questioned by the police. possessed el comes after them in a very terminator-esque scene, massacring everyone at the precinct

-i've said this before, but el has a carrie moment: one of her bullies pushes her just a bit too far and el's powers unleash, killing the bully

-will, mike, and el get so many ferris bueller references

-the party (at least the members still in hawkins) sleep over at steve's apartment all the time

-joyce doesn't actually end up going to russia (ok i'm pretty sure there are set pics that rule this one out But i need to get it off my chest). she's talking to owens about it- but then jonathan comes to her and tells her that will and el are missing and she deems her children more important than the possibility that hopper could be alive

^joyce and jonathan team up this season (yeah ok argyle's here but bear with me). we address the pressure she has put on him to step into the patriarchal role of the family and how it's negatively effected him

-max isn't sad that billy died, per-say, she just feels guilty that she's relieved that he's out of her life. add that to everything she's going through with neil...

^this guilt leads her to sacrifice herself to save someone else's life

-another on max is that she makes lucas mad enough to dump her, and this time for a mature reason

-el and mike have some et and elliot connection/sickness

-after meeting kali and watching her try to train el and help her get her powers back, mike knows that pain is what fuels el and her powers. he thinks that's how he can get through to her while she's possessed, so he sets himself up to be alone with her- and for her to kill him.

^it's important to me that dustin is the one who realizes mike's plan

^alsooo mike's plan doesn't work because just as she's about to kill him, someone comes through the gate she's about to open: hopper. the love she feels for hopper is what overpowers the mind flayer.

-the hellfire club is actually a cult who is using dustin and mike to get more information about the upside down. eddie witnessed something happen and now the cult worships the mind flayer. it's made up of kids and adults.

^max's guidance counselor is a member of the hellfire club, who is also trying to get information out of her and turn her against her friends/isolate her. (maybe they gets max to betray the party, which is why lucas is mad at her.) (or we get a 'i never said anything about a graveyard professor' moment, where the guidance counselor knows something they shouldn't and max realizes.)

-el gets separated from mike and will (either because of possession or lab) and we get outsiders ponyboy and johnny vibes.

-time works differently in the upside down.

-keep the previous bullet in mind when i say that the russians send hopper and a few other prisoners and guards through the upside down to test if it's safe to send troops through for a red-dawn-type invasion

^the end credit scene is of the troops being sent through (and the cold open of season 5 is the mind flayer possessing the entire army)

these are just the ones off the top of my head bc i've been sitting on them for awhile

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