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factual-fantasy · 2 months

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26 ASKS!! THANK YOU!! :}}} 🥪

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WAAHAHAAG THANK YOU SO MUHC!!! :DDDD As for your questions-

Spider crab's name is just a place holder for now, much like a lot of the crew has.. I want to give them all proper names at some point. Like Ellie and Louis have.. But I'm just really bad at coming up with names for stuff- <XD 💔💔

For Luigi- no one in particular! I just wanted to draw him with that expression <XD And don't worry, Mario cheered him up in the end :}}

As for the FNAF doodle, thats Foxy, Roxy and Mangle! I get that its hard to recognize her by her side profile and without color though-- <XD I had experimented with some ideas of a pirate themed Glamrock Mangle being added to one of the AUs. Though that sketch was the only one I really liked. :/

I have seen Encanto! :D It was alright, I liked the living house aspect of it :00

As for Red, I thiiink he might be too young to understand fusion or how to do it.. I pictured him being.. like what, five? Or something? That's like half the age of when Steven first learned to fuse-

That, and it felt a little odd for him to fuse with any of the crew, since they're all so much older than him. :/

@astaherussy (Post in question)

XD Sure were! Convenient aren't they?🤣🤣

I've definitely heard of it, and I've seen some gifs/posts about it here and there.. but truth be told I have no idea what its about. :( I think I've seen two Mario's and one wears a black suit...?

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XDD I imagine Ellie would shut that down real quick. But in the off chance that they get away with it.. I feel like Louis would come out on top.

He could block any oncoming attacks with his unbreakable claw arm, then whip around and launch whole watermelons and pies with the other XDD He would probably think it was fun too!

Does the game have large birds like that?? :0 I had no idea! They gotta be on the look out for those then--

Oof, I suppose they could.. though I don't intend for either party to experience that. It just sounds miserable! D:>

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XDD Oh man, that's hilarious! Poor Red--

@yourstrulylightstar283 (Referencing this post)

Thank you! I hope I get better soon too.. I hope to have some answers by next week.. <:) 🙏

:DD Thank you! I'm so glad you like my Freddy! :))

I always kind'a felt like a certain.. gloomy-ness, would be fitting for him. He already has some of that in the game. But with everything my Freddy's been through.. just.. having this weight to his tone. This lingering exhaustion.. I felt like it would suit him. :(

Hmm... I imagine that Seam and Jevil would be options.. Maybe in bad cases Calico Jack would.. Almost everyone in FNAF is an option <XD

No.. in a sad twist of fate, no one ever heard his cries in the dungeon. Imagine how much more lonely he felt becuase of that..

I don't know if he gets phantom pains from getting beat up.. but I imagine his horn stumps give him some aches and soreness that can be attributed to phantom pain.. :(

Who's gingerbrave? That's the main character right..? I have no idea if he'd come across my crew.. I don't know what kind of shenanigans he gets up to.. wait "gang"? He travels in a group with other people??

@chickenmilk120

fank uu! :}}}

@couchwow

Yeah,, I'm aware.. 😔🙄 ya hate to see it. But hey the watermark is right there saying "this art is stolen." so it could be worse I guess.

@littlelightfish

Tuna:

He is not being normal about it XDD You've totally flattered him!

@potatocryptid

Thank you!! :DD Yeah,, I think I WILL work on what ever I want!! XDD

Off the top of my head, there's an AWESOME Mario artist by the name of @katlyntheartist! I love her work, I highly recommend you stop by her blog! :D

I've also seen some jaw-dropping Mario artwork by @suedoodle! Both blogs are worth a visit! :}}

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Ah yes! The idea behind that was to show the initial divide between Grillby and Spamton.

You see, Spamton hails Jevil as his savior of sorts. He was at his lowest low, and in unimaginable pain.. then Jevil just swoops in and offers his hand. Bringing him outside of his AU. Away from the pain, away from the torment.. Jevil is awesome!!

But then you've got Grillby.. Jevil saved him from his AU right before it collapsed in on itself. He "saved" his life, but at what cost? Grillby lost everything. And he cant help but be angry at Jevil for it. Thinking that if Jevil hadn't been there, he could have just peacefully disappeared along with his family and everyone else in his AU..

So Spamton is endlessly respectful towards Jevil, and Grillby cant help but roll his eyes and spit sass at him all the time. Those two opposing views are bound to cause problems someday..

I imagine one day the whole group is tired and cranky. Jevil did something that Grillby didn't agree with. Some bitter remarks there, Spamton defending Jevil's decision here.. some back and fourth and next thing you know a fight breaks out. :x

@im-nice-but-i-dont-like-you

XDD idk!! Why are YOU into almost every single fandom I'M into?? Also than you so much!! :}}

Thank you! I'm glad you like my sona! But aaa sorry, no can do.. I don't want fanart at all, of anything. Just comments/asks/reblogs. <:}

@canonickero (Sent after this post)

XD Thank you! I'm glad you like him :}}

I pictured Yendo being another one of Funtime Foxy's nightmare-ish visions. Though I should consider passing that onto Bon Bon.. 👀

The story goes that Funtime Freddy is a frequent flyer in parts and service. The employees groan that there's always something wrong with Freddy that needs fixing. Nobody really knows why..

Now at some point Freddy was shut down and in parts and service. As per usual.. Foxy was nearby, and heard a sudden thud/crash coming from that room. He rushes inside to see what happened and finds Funtime Freddy on the floor, what ever he was propped up on had broken, causing him to fall.

He looked at Freddy's face.. and.. his face plates were wide open..

Foxy. freaked. out. If I remember correctly, he was supposed to start shouting and panicking. Trying to help Freddy, thinking he was hurt. When he couldn't move Freddy and he wouldn't wake up, Foxy ran out of the room to get help. He runs into some employees and tried to tell them what happened. They end up just forcibly shutting him down because he cant stop freaking out..

Later on he's reactivated and the rest of the gang is with him. Including Freddy. He uncharacteristically runs to Freddy all worried and frantically inspects his face for injuries. They ask him what he saw but he just.. doesn't have the words to describe it.

Part of the horror is Foxy's inability to understand what he saw. Therefore being terrified of it and being unable to describe it..

After that Foxy began to develop these hallucinations of sorts. Overtime the image of Freddy's skinned face kind'a turns in to its own nightmare. Yendo.. overtime it feels more like "Yendo" is an entity separate from Freddy. Foxy begins to imagine this skinned bear like creature that is out there somewhere.. wanting to hurt Freddy and take his face.. its not fun :(

This idea is still in development. Well, the whole AU is. But this was my initial idea for Yendo :)

Now old man consequences is tricky.. I had intentions of him being this weird vison that Foxy sees now and again. But with recent developments to the AU.. I might need to scrap the old gator. Or at least re-write his role and function in the AU-

@stripetkattelalala54 (Post linked in question)

No problem! I'm always up for Mario questions! :DD

And as for the question, I pictured that Mario never really liked the ice flower to begin with. I imagined Mario loving the heat and the sun. Always enjoyed being warm/hot and functions the best in it.. You know like a maniac-

So the Fire flower was naturally his favorite powerup. And that experience did leave Mario with some kind of trauma, which just added to his dislike of it..

@beryl-shade

OOO I like Tendrilfoam! :00 Hmm, Captain Tendrilfoam.. I'll have to consider that one! :D

#my response #fnaf security breach #fnaf sister location #cookie run #cookie run kingdom #cookie run ocs #my ocs #undertale #deltarune #octonauts #super mario bros

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spinnydraws · 7 months

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Oh no Kenzie is spewing his thoughts.....

Y'know, I never really understood the hate towards player/SOUL in delta rune. They didn't ask to be attached to Kris. Hell, they didn't even really have a say on who they wanted to be attached to as their vessel was tossed into the void.

Kris probably doesn't even hate the player as much as the fandom portrays them to. They probably don't like being controlled, yes, but if that was truly the case, then why does Kris always put SOUL back after tearing them out?

If Kris has such an ability to where they can remove SOUL and move freely without input, why put them back after doing what they wanted for a brief moment of time? It just doesn't make sense to me, it feels like Kris just wants a moment of being out of SOUL's input. and it makes me think Kris and SOUL have a more...venom relationship than anything else. (Kind of,,,)

Why would Kris make a dark fountain in there house if they didn't want SOUL to control them? Clearly, they don't mind to some degree, cuz their life has been so much more exciting ever since SOUL appeared. SOUL even made them friends, which Kris is probably grateful for. Cuz it's clear that Kris is seen as the weird kid due to them being the only human in a town filled with monsters, SOUL made them make friends with a monster they were afraid of (Susie) and even made them a hero in some way (in the darkworld at least.) They are no longer a 'nobody' because of SOUL.

Kris only REALLY becomes the victim in the snowgrave route. There, SOUL is making them do things they don't want to do. Such as killing enemy's, harming Noelle mentally and even physically, and worst of all, literally MURDERING Berdly; who is indeed one of their friends despite their ongoing rivalry. This is where the player hate is justified, they're torturing other characters through their host, Kris, just to see what would happen. That's where you could view the player as evil as they are intentionally making Kris' friends suffer, along with Kris themself. This is where I can see Kris not liking, or even downright hating the player, and wanting to be out of their control permanently.

But it any other route, like the pacifist or normal route, I just don't think it makes sense for Kris to hate SOUL/player. Kris isn't a victim in those routes, they're just the host, the puppet they obviously don't mind being (and, I know after the spamton neo fight, Kris gets uneasy and scared about being a puppet for player, and while yes, their fear is rightly justified considering what happened to spamton. I just don't see them taking it into too much consideration after being comforted by Susie and Ralsei, especially if the player had been peaceful and nonviolent thus far.)

Most others say that player makes Kris do things they don't want to. Which is...just...not true. In snowgrave, yes, player makes Kris do things they do not want to do, but in a normal or pacifist route that is just not true. I'm going to take hugging Ralsei for example. It's implied that the choices given to the player are options that Kris would most likely do or say anyway, but it's player who makes the final decision for them. So, Kris WOULD hug Ralsei, or do any of the things given in the tunnel of love scenes, but player is the one who decides which actions are final, but all the actions and words are implied to be what Kris would do or say anyway without players direct input. Does that....make sense? I feel like I'm overexplaining but I really want to get my point across.

I'm gonna stop here, cuz I don't want to continue rambling or want this post to get too long. But in short, Kris is not the victim, they only become one in snowgrave. They probably don't even want player to leave now since they think they'll become a 'nobody' again without their input. player isn't making Kris do anything they don't want to (Unless, it's snowgrave, as I said many times now lol.) Kris and player probably don't have the BEST relationship, obvs, but they definitely don't hate each other or want the other gone.

But, that's just my thoughts, tell me what you think, if you made it thus far that is ^w^

#Deltarune #Kris dreemurr #LEMONADE #SOUL #player deltarune #deltarune player #kris deltarune #soul deltarune #deltarune soul #just felt like getting this out cuz #i think player hate is rather dumb #all just imo i could be wrong but #this is just how i feel #idk just thought i'd spew my thoughts into ur face rq #anyway kris and player/lemon bestie agenda spreads!!!!!!#Kenziebabbles #SHUT IT KENZIE

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mercair · 9 months

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And now, for my second gremlin character, are you ready? i believe most secret bosses would think Spamton is annoying, but they are NOTready for this one, i present to you; BONSLICK THE WICKED !!

He was a normal Bonely, like any other, but one day, under special circumstances, he was CHOSEN by his lightner to be "SPECIAL", more than any other Bonely, or darkner before.

However the day came, and something unexpected happened; he dissapeared! Just like that, he was no longer, anywhere in the dark world, as if he just suddenly vanished, missing his opportunity, his only opportunity, to be "SPECIAL"... But one day, he came back, tired and hurt, claiming to have seen... Something, saying bunch of nonsenses, he swore that he managed to survive to something terryfing BEYOND the DARK. Nobody believed him, they all thought he went crazy, and they turned their back on him...

But he will show them, he will show them that what he saw was real, but not only that, he will show them that he is special, the most special darkner ever been. Perhaps a lightner might come in handy...

So he is, as the image says, based on Papyrus missing special attack, which instantly makes no sense for a variety of reasons, but idc.

What's a "Bonely"? A Bonely is this hyothetical dark world's basic enemy (like Ruddin and the Werewires), which takes place, as you guessed it, in the Skelebros' House.

His personality is basically Papyrus but more pathetic and angry. A LOT more.

Fun fact: He never sticks to a single kind of laugh, so he laughs different almost every time.

As for his design, well, despite being based on Papyrus' missing special attack, he looks like that one bone from his "regular" attack. Perhaps that's what i meant when i said he somehow came back.

As for his secret boss design, he literally fuses himself with a "mysterious machine" found in the basement of this dark world... I wonder what that machine is? (it's a Gaster blaster, it's literally a Gaster blaster).

And lastly, his BATTLE THEME, LET'S GOOO!! (note: yes, he looks a bit different in the thumbnail, might change it later).

That motif sounds familiar, huh? Anyways, just like before, if you wanna listen to the rest of his soundtrack, please consider checking my soundcloud account. I hope ya'll liked it, see ya!

#deltarune secret boss #deltarune au #deltarune #oc #SoundCloud #secret boss

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rubsjuice · 9 months

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Why is Swatch a class traitor???

Thank you very much for asking :)

In this post I'll be using he/they pronouns interchangeably to refer to Swatch. I enjoy the idea of they-pronouns Swatch but at the same time I refuse to believe that the only instance of canon pronoun usage to refer to him is misgendering, as some people posted about before, because that's not how Toby flies.

That being said, before talking about Swatch specifically, I need to explain the logic behind this reading of them. Swatch being seen as a "class traitor" is derived from the marxist idea of class consciousness, or in different terms, the fact that people who are in the same economic position understand each other and therefore owe each other solidarity, the idea that people need to be conscious of their position in their society and side with people who will help their situation and improve their lives.

In this sense, a class traitor is a person who, despite understanding their position in the social strata, refuses to side with their peers and instead either shuns them to appeal to a higher social class, to "appear as one of them", so to speak, or completely refuses the idea that they are part of that class to begin with. A good, palpable example, are snobbish, classist doctors. Doctors are employed by someone – be it a hospital, a clinic, an insurance company, the government in some countries, even in private practice, etc, but they are not, by Marx's definitions, owners of capital, aka someone with the exorbitant amount of money that allows them to control production in a large scale (in other words, conglomerates and billionaires). However, having a higher material condition on average, and having attained this social position through study that was allowed by a higher material condition in the first place, some doctors don't realize that they are just as much of a proletariat as the poor man they are treating, and thus exhibit behavior like discrediting, ignoring or even being hostile to people they identify as lesser, despite the fact that they're supposed to be together, sociologically speaking.

What the fuck does that have to do with Swatch, you ask? Well, Swatch is, to put it bluntly, literally a servant to aristocracy. They are, by definition, part of the working class, and therefore they owe solidarity to their fellow workers. Spamton, in direct counterbalance, is a member of the working class who has been elevated, by one way or another, into a position that makes him just as, if not more powerful than aristocracy. Spamton had become burgoise, though he still retains his origin as a working class salesman, that much hasn't changed in him, as far as we can tell. This seems to be going on just fine, if we are to believe Spamton's response in the Q&A, until Spamton needs a support system, when his business goes belly up to the point that he ends up homeless.

I really need to emphasize this point. Spamton isn't a "funny little guy who lives in a non-house cuz it's funny", not even in-universe. He is, put it simply, destitute. He does not live in the trash because he wants to. And, I think that every clear-headed person understands this, you cannot go from being one of, if not the, richest person in your entire world, to a homeless man living in a garbage can who people pretend doesn't exist, unless your peers and your society have wronged you tremendously. Spamton didn't become a homeless man just because he fucked around and found out, he became a homeless man because he fucked around and found out, AND none of his peers from this time wanted to help him. And, most importantly, this includes Swatch.

As a servant, he must know what poverty looks like. He must know what having a material condition worse than the ones you surround yourself with is like. And they did nothing to help, or maybe even contributed to Spamton's isolation, which is a separate can of worms I don't have the energy to look at gameplay videos for at this time of night.

For real, does the guy who sells Spamton's bowties with the label removed, and refers to him as a "crooked salesman", and plays it coy and laments when Spamton goes off the deep end sound like they have class consciousness?

Do they sound like they wouldn't shoo off a poor, hungry plugboy from the palace's kitchen back door?

Swatch has apparently rejected his origin not only as a metaphorically working-class artist, but the fact that he could empathize with other working-class people as well, including the less fortunate and the desperate. This makes him a class traitor, by Marx's own theory.

Of course, there's a lot more nuance to Swatch and Spamton's relationship, especially the fact that Spamton isn't the perfect portrait of a poor victim and is very combative and aggressive, which doesn't make people very willing to empathize with him in the first place. There's also the power inbalance and dynamic involved in the fact that, when Spamton lived in the Pandora Palace, Swatch was his butler as well, and that might complicate things from Swatch's end.

At the end of the day, this is just my own takeaway from Swatch's words about Spamton, and Spamton's words about Swatch. This doesn't mean much for anything besides my own understanding of Deltarune and what sort of fun dynamics I can explore in fanworks, nor does it mean I am claiming it as truth, but I do think it's an interesting exercise in media analysis.

Edited to include a few more words on Spamton becoming burgoise cuz I meant to do that but forgor lmao

#mafa talks #mafa talks a lot #spamton #swatch #deltarune #deltarune analysis #im not even gonna tag this as marxism i'm afraid of the people who might show up if i do #i cannot believe this is what i'm using my degree for tone: positive

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freypixxa · 2 months

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Hello guys

Just had a realization about the identity of ch3 secret boss of Deltarune so now...i must share it

CAMERA THEORY

Okay so people have seen the Dreemur house and have made conclusions about the secret boss.

But there Is One room that Is completely ignored.

Toriel's.

But it's locked so It means that we won't be able to access It.

Wrong!

When Kris created the fountain in the living room the Windows were opened making the darkness leave the room, now i doubt It could travel much normally, but being during the night there isn't much light so It could cover the whole house, entering throught the Windows in the upper floor.

We can see from ch1 that Doors transform in the great doors

This Doors can be opened so we could Explore the room.

Now, i want you to think, what item could be in the parents room?

Something expensive, but isn't used

Listen you can Guess It from the name of the THEORY.

Of course i'm talking about the videocamera

What videocamera?

The same One they have in undertale

Since they bought It in undertale they would have no reason to not buy it again.

But why the camera?

Well, the secret bosses could be more connected to Kris (like spamton) and a camera full of Memories of the past surely Is connected.

But why would It be discarded?

Well, tell me.

Does asgore or Toriel use the videocamera in undertale?

No, they don't.

Now, in Deltarune there hasn't been a death but still, using and object connected to the past like that isn't Ideal.

Since Toriel hates Asgore She would not want to see the Memories, She threw It away in her room.

Locked It

Abandoned It.

How Is a camera connected to Freedom?

Well, the camera is fully controlled.

The lightner can control what It sees, what It remembers.

(yes , i mean recording and deleting files)

The camera like i already mentioned has connection with Toriel as well, so It could be the one to give her items for the weird route.

A videocamera fits perfectly in a TV world, so It would be fully compatible.

But if it's so compatible, shouldn't It be part of the crew spamton mentions?

Good question

There Is a solution, the lens of the camera Is broken.

It could have happened on accident.

This would have made It even more discarded.

The only reason It isn't thrown away it's because there are videos and Toriel doesn't know how to transfer them.

(yes, i think Toriel doesn't know how to use technology)

This Is my THEORY for the ch3 secret boss, if you have any feedback, comment and I'll reply as soon as possible.

#deltarune #undertale-fandom #theory

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evilautismcrusades · 10 months

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after seeing some of the votes and responses to my "what is mike going to be" poll, i thought maybe i should give my own response to the matter and reasoning for why i so strongly believe hes going to be the microwave, plus my own opinion on woody theory!

basically for those who dont know what woody theory is, its a theory that the deltarune chapter 3 bonus boss is going to be a toy woody-like darkner with a "friend inside them," aka a speaker who would manifest in the dark world as a separate entity of some kind controlling the toy host. this is apparently based on posts and even a fan song toby has made for toy story, and also something about "the cowboy show being cancelled" in the most recent undertale newsletter, which people took to be a reference to a similar scene in one of the toy story movies. (do please correct me if im wrong on any of this information, i havent seen any of the toy story movies in a looooong time.)

and, honestly? i could see him pulling something like that! its a cool and unique idea for a character, especially fitting for a bonus boss darkner. if he really does do this, i would be pleasantly surprised.

however, i dont think the woody boss or the friend inside them would be mike. in fact, i dont even think mike is going to be a microphone. if you think about it, there arent any microphones or anything that could contain them (without being bugged or something) inside the dreemurr house, and if there were to be a woody character they wouldnt contain a microphone unless they were one of those toys that repeat what you say to them. they would just contain a speaker.

something else i see in support of the thing inside the woody character being mike is the canon knowledge that spamton and jevil have of each others existence, and people wondering if this could point to a trend with all the secret bosses knowing or having met each other. given that spamton mentions mike quite a few times, and other chapter trends being implied at (such as rouxls having a cameo in every chapter), this is another thing i could see happening, but i still dont think itll be with mike.

if anything, i think it will be with tenna, the character mentioned on one of the spamton sweepstakes hidden pages. my reasons for this are how much disdain spamton seems to have for both tenna and jevil, which could definitely be another chapter trend. whereas spamton seems to care about and even miss mike, acting protective when he was asked about him in the spamton q&a, he is awfully hateful towards tenna. as quoted from this hidden sweepstakes page (notably the first and only place he mentions tenna by name, in the url):

"THAT DAMN [Boob tube]!!!

YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE HAVING A [Refr3shing n1ghts sleep] IN THE [Recycling Bin]!!!

EVERYTHING IS HIS

EVERYTHING IS HIS FAULT.

...PAY....

EVERYONE IS GOING TO

EVERYONE IS GOING TO PAY [5 easy payments of $9.99] UNTIL THEY'RE ALL IN THE [Disposal Area] BEGGING FOR MY [$#&*]!!!

EVERYONE... EVERYONE EXCEPT..."

here it really comes off that the "boob tube" he is talking about, and presumably also a darkner representing the tv or part of it, is tenna. another really interesting thing is whoever hes talking about at the end. given that he has shown a fondness for mike before, i believe he is the one spamton is sparing from his short person wrath, and tenna has wronged him and mike in some way. this clashes alot with the tv mike theory/depictions and is the biggest reason i dont believe he is the tv.

so, what does that leave in the house for mike to be?

well, he can still really be anything, but if we were to follow his name being a play on his corresponding light world object, this leaves the most likely candidate as being the microwave in the kitchen, and with that i rest my case.

if anyone has any other theories or details on this subject that i didnt touch on, please let me know!! id love to hear them

#deltarune #mike deltarune #mikerowave deltarune supremacy #tenna deltarune #woody theory #deltarune woody theory #deltarune theory #text post #long post

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solalunar-eclipse · 11 months

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Strings Neither Green Nor Red

Chapter title: Pink Embroidery (Clickon K. Addison)

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Spamton belongs to Toby Fox, all other characters belong to @brightgoat on Tumblr and Twitter.

Click sighed. Vid had left their apartment keycard in their house again, and yet again, it was up to him to bring it to their workplace.

This had been happening more and more recently, and he was getting sick of it. Not only did it put him out of his way, but it cut into his break time, which he needed to be savoring every second of just to hold himself together.

Ever since the rift in their department opened up with Spamton’s disappearance (which had only grown as Vid and Mags became more at odds), Click had been spending as much time avoiding the others as possible. This pattern forced him to do everything but that, making his mouth twist in annoyance as he rounded the corner towards the shop.

Click threw open the door to Vid’s place (a little convenience store, this week), not bothering to grab it before it slammed into the doorstop. “Hey! I got your keys!” he shouted into the silent store.

No reply came, except for the very faint echo of his voice off the tiled floors.

That kind of silence was weird, even for a depressed Video. Warily, he wandered up and down the aisles, unable to even catch sight of anyone at the register. Could Vid have gone out? But then why was the door unlocked? The yellow Addi had lost their apartment card, not the keys to their store.

Click’s ponytail twitched at a quiet noise, and he combed it over his shoulder somewhat shamefully, hoping nobody had seen that.

That was nothing, however, compared to how he reacted when the storeroom door swung open in his peripheral vision.

It was sheer luck that his tail didn’t drop more than anything, but it certainly came close, given that he’d screamed nearly loud and high enough to shatter glass. Instinctively, Click summoned an arrow, pointing it at the figure in the doorway.

“…AH, [$!&*].”

That voice…

The pink Addison’s magic fizzled out as a new kind of terror welled up in the pit of his stomach. “S…Spamton?”

“[[The one and only!]] WHO’S IT LOOK LIKE I AM, [the Fonz]?” he shot back, looking decidedly unimpressed.

Click nearly let out a half-hysterical giggle, but choked it back. “N-no…” he said weakly, unable to muster a better response.

He’d been planning for this moment for years. His apology speech had been perfect—just the right blend of sales pitch and argument, sure to convince Spamton of his guilt and his desire to make it up to him. Now, though, he couldn’t remember a word of it.

Vaguely, he wondered if this was what stage fright felt like.

“You’re alive.” he managed to say, and then immediately winced. Way to point out the obvious, Click.

“WELL, DUH.” Spamton gestured to himself, blatantly unimpressed. “YOU GOT ANY MORE [Logical Deductions] TO POINT OUT, [[Sherlock]]?”

“Listen—Spam—” Click began, but he was rapidly cut off.

“NO. THAT WAS A [Answer Not Provided] QUESTION.” Spamton snapped. “I DON’T WANT TO [Here] ANY MORE OF YOUR [[Rated PG-13 For Foul Language]].”

“But I’m sorry—” he tried again.

Spam laughed harshly. “YOU?! SORRY? HA! AT LEAST [[Video compilation]] WAS BELIEVABLE. HE MIGHT’VE LIKED ME, [Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away]. I WAS JUST Y0UR [[Sob story]] [Punching bag]. AND YOU EXP3CT ME<TO [[Return to sender]] BACK T0 TH4T?!”

Click felt like he’d just been hit in the chest. “Wh—I don’t—just let me explain…”

“EXPLAIN WHAT? HOW I’M A [[glitchy little freak]] WHO’S [[going to come running back to us the second you fail]]? NO W4Y. I’M NOT GONNA [Put Up Your Dukes] WITH A [Round 2] OF THAT!!”

The pink Addi felt sick to his stomach. Hearing Spamton spew out his own words as part of his glitching genuinely left him closer to making a mess of the store’s floor than any alcohol could ever have done.

Clutching at his mouth, Click leaned heavily against the shelves, resting his other hand on his knees. All his words were stuck deep in his throat, choked by the impact of his disgusting old speech.

Spam rolled his eyes. “SAME OLD [Drama Queen]. THAT [[Sales Shtick]] AIN’T GONNA WORK ON ME, YOU B[but are you okay?]!”

Click dragged himself back upright, leaning on one of the shelves. “Not really…but I probably deserved that…and more. I mean, I’m guessing you haven’t been okay for a while…”

Spamton seemed a little startled by his last outburst, as though he hadn’t meant to say that. When Click spoke, however, he refocused on the conversation.

“I MEAN, UNLESS YOU COUNT LIVING IN [[the trash like a rat]] AND [Eating the scraps from the table] AS OKAY.” he said, giving the pink Addi an irritated look.

“Oh, god…” Click groaned, as the true force of exactly what his words at the Cyber Grill had done hit him for the first time. “Oh, god, what did I do? I mean, at least you’re not dead, r—no, never mind, that sounds so messed up.”

“YOU GOT THAT ONE [Right as rain].” Spamton muttered.

“How am I supposed to fix that?” he asked (mostly to himself), feeling weak. “How the hell do I—make this all go back to normal?”

“YOU DON’T. [U] CAN’T. [Default settings] AREN’T EVER COMING BACK, [[Clickbait]].”

“But I have to!” he cried, his speech fully off the rails by this point. “I need to, it’s eating me alive! Don’t you understand?! I can’t live like this!”

“Maybe I can help with that!” a voice said from behind him.

“Vid!” Click gasped, never more relieved to see the yellow Addi than now. “Wait, actually, hold on—do you know why Spam’s in your store??”

Video sighed, giving him a half smile. “We started talking a few weeks ago. Now I’m working on making things up to him. Slowly.”

“And you didn’t tell anyone?! …never mind. That makes sense.” he sighed, still a little stung.

“But…how can you help?” Click asked, desperate.

“Okay, so listen, Click. This isn’t the kind of thing you can one-and-done. You’ve gotta prove, over and over again, that you’re not gonna treat him like you used to. Heck, he might never forgive you…I don’t even know if he’s fully forgiven me yet.” Vid said, surprisingly serious for once.

“That’s not helpful!” the pink Addi snapped.

Vid raised an eyebrow. “Aaand that’s the first thing you’ve gotta work on, right there.”

“What?” Click was bewildered.

“Your anger issues! Thing is, man…anyone who you don’t like, you yell at until you scare them the heck away.” Video explained. “‘S what ya did with Spam, right? Though for the life of me I can’t figure out what you hated about him so much.”

“I didn’t hate him.” Click scoffed, rolling his eyes. “I was just…annoyed.”

“Wow. How long’ve you been telling yourself that one?” Vid shot back. “You legit said the words ‘I hate Spamton’ out loud. More than once. And you insulted him, like, all the time! Since when have you ever not hated him? …no offense, Spam.”

“SOME TAKEN. FROM [[Cotton Candy Half Off]], NOT YOU.”

“W-wait, but that’s not what I meant—!” Click cried. “I…”

“YOU KNOW HE’S [Right on the money!], DONTCHA.” Spam sighed.

“But, it didn’t mean anything, did it? It was just…what we did! I mean, how else was I supposed to act when—”

Click cut himself off, unwilling to say the rest of the sentence out loud.

—when you were such a total failure?

“When what.” Spamton snarled, all glitching gone.

“No, it’s nothing! Really! I didn’t mean it!” Click yelped. “Dammit, I’m not messing this up again!”

“Aren’t you?” Vid asked, very little sympathy present.

The pink Addi turned several shades paler.

“Listen, man. I’m gonna give ya one last bit of free advice.” Video continued. “If you’d spent one damn minute actually hearing out Spam’s feelings way back when—geez, even just listening to one of his pitches—maybe you wouldn’t’ve made so much fun of him! Can you even imagine how hard it is to mess up sale after sale and then come home to your resident Pink making fun of you nonstop? And to put up with that for literal years? Don’t you get just how much that takes?”

Click felt a mounting realization building inside him. “Oh, god.”

“Yeah. Just, like, think for maybe five seconds about how the person on the other end feels, okay? Even if Spam never forgives you, at least you’ll know you won’t make the same mistake again.” Vid finished.

“DAMN, VID! WHEN DID YOU [Becomed] THE [[Mom Friend]]?” Spam called from behind Click.

Meanwhile, the pink Addi was having a crisis. “I thought you didn’t care! Are you saying I’ve been kicking you while you were down this whole time?” he asked, stunned.

“UH, YEAH??” Spamton said, like that should be obvious.

“…but, wait—does that mean I’m like the other Pinks?!” he cried.

“Did—did you think you weren’t?” Vid wheezed. “What planet have you been living on?”

“I thought I was better than them!” Click shrieked, defensive.

“TECHNICALLY, YOU’RE THE [#1] THOUGHTFUL [[Magenta]] IN OUR DISTRICT…BUT THAT’S A [How Low Can You Go?] BAR, PAL.” Spamton explained.

“So what you’re saying is, ‘better than Joyston’ is still pretty damn terrible.” Click muttered. “…actually, that sounds really obvious when I say it out loud.”

“[TBH], YOUR ONLY REDEEMING [[Quality Product]] IS THAT YOU’RE A TOTAL DORK AROUND POPPUPS.” Spam said.

Click opened his mouth, ready to snarl some insult right back. He could feel a million appear instantly in his head, ready to fire for maximum impact.

And then, he saw Spamton brace himself.

Instantly, he felt sick all over again. He really hadn’t changed, had he? Honestly, he deserved way worse than being made fun of for his love of poppups. Spam should be beating the life out of him right now, not patiently explaining where he’d gone wrong!

“I really am a terrible person.” he said instead, his shoulders slumping.

“I don’t know about terrible, but you’re…really good at hurting people.” Vid said, and Click winced. “But, that doesn’t mean you can’t change that! It’s pretty hard for Addis to change, but I sure have.”

“Yeah, you’re being weirdly rational right now.” Click said. “Why?”

Vid sighed. “Back before…everything, things never went wrong for me. Sure, I might’ve lost a sale here or there, but nothing, like, apocalyptic ever happened. But having your whole life turned upside down kinda changes your outlook…I still wanna live life to the fullest, but now I’m a lil’ more careful to keep an eye on how other people are feeling, too.”

“HEY, HANG ON, [[Video player]]! YOUR [life turned upside down] AND YOU DIDN’T EVEN GET TO GO TO [[Bel-Air]]? ROUGH.” Spam said, suddenly smirking.

“Wh—HA!” Video cackled. “Did I really say that?”

“YEP.”

Click’s first instinct was to roll his eyes again at such a (frankly) lame joke. But then, he noticed how Vid was genuinely laughing for the first time in years. And Spamton—Spamton was grinning. For real.

Faintly, ever so faintly, Click felt his expression relax into the lightest of smiles. His shoulders dropped, and he leaned a little more into the shelf.

“Guess that wasn’t half bad, Spam.” he hummed.

Both of the other people in the store did double takes. “SERIOUSLY?” Spamton asked, startled.

Vid just beamed.

Blushing, Click looked away, feeling tense again. “Hey, I have to start somewhere, right?!”

“YOU GUYS ARE [[Full of surprises]].” Spam said, smiling wryly.

“Having the element of surprise isn’t just for fighting tactics!” Video cheered.

Click smiled again, briefly. It was getting easier already, when he allowed himself to be infected by Vid’s energy instead of pushing it away.

“MY [20XX—20XX planner]’S GONNA BE FULL IF I START SPENDING [[Time is money!]] WITH BOTH OF YOU, YOU KNOW.” Spamton said, but not in a way that suggested this was necessarily an issue for him.

“Sounds like a good problem to me.” Click replied, after a moment of thought. It wasn’t too difficult for him to not be annoyed by Spam’s presence, given how long he’d been hoping for exactly this. Responding to him genuinely was still weird, though…it took actual effort for him to think of something that wasn’t a snappy retort.

“...OKAY, THIS IS ACTUALLY [[Stranger Than Fiction!]]. WHO ARE YOU, AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH [Clickbait]?” Spam asked, a faint smirk on his face.

“Is that your new nickname for me?” Click said, raising a brow. “I’ll have you know my businesses are all perfectly respectable!” He stuck his nose in the air, only a little bit serious.

“SURE, SURE…WHATEVER YOU SAY.”

It took all of Click’s strength not to slice back at Spamton. Instead, he rolled his shoulders, sighed, and asked, “What are you going to do now?”

Spam’s look of surprise when the pink Addi spoke, however, made all his effort worth it.

Once he’d recovered, though, he asked, “WANNA GET SOME [[Sweet treats]]? I [Seeing Is Believing!] A COTTON CANDY STAND THIS MORNING!”

Click’s eyes lit up, and unbeknownst to him, his ponytail began to swish excitedly. “Really? Where?!”

“DOWN BY THE [[Carnival in town]]! …BUT YOU’RE PAYING.” Spam said, smirking.

The pink Addi winced, but even that wasn’t enough to deter him from the prospect of his favorite food. “I’ll take that deal.”

Spamton beamed from ear to ear, stunning Click into silence. “HEY HEY HEY, WHADDAYA KNOW! LOOKS LIKE I CAN STILL [[Salesman Never Sleeps]] AFTER ALL!”

Click groaned softly, but without malice. “Dammit, it’s not fair! You know my weak spot, don’t take advantage of me like this!”

“HAEHEAHAHA! A GUY’S [Gotta Do What He’s Gotta Do!]!!!”

“Yeah, yeah. You coming or not?” the pink Addi asked, pushing himself off the shelf and heading for the door.

“JUST TRY TO KEEP UP!” Spam exclaimed, already right beside him.

It was only once they’d left, the bell on the door long since finished ringing as it swung shut, that Vid remembered they hadn’t even gotten their apartment card back.

#deltarune #spamton #spamton g spamton #deltarune addisons #pink addison #yellow addison #clickon k addison #videon e addison #i hope spamton's ad-speak is reading okay!#i'm still working out how to write him well so any advice would be much appreciated :)#as for click #he's pretty tough to write just because his pre- and post- big shot era characterizations are so wildly different #so that's been interesting #as always thank you for reading!#and i hope you're doing well wherever you are!

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offbrand-deltatraveler · 1 year

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To all the people who say the fandom majorly misses the point of Spamton’s character:

Literally where

I’m not gonna act like I’m turning social media upside down for every small scrap of Spamton content it has to offer, but if this is such a bug problem then why have I never seen it? Why does the wider fandom have no idea that it exists if it’s so big? Deltarune’s fandom isn’t as spread out as UT’s, so I’m fairly confident that if it’s such an insurmountably widespread issue that’s practically on the same level of relevancy as Papyrus Infanitization, there should be virtually no one in the Spamton Fanclub that hasn’t heard of it

People always say “People need to stop making Spamton so charismatic and sexy” or “More people need to realize that Spamton is not a good person and does a lot of terrible things” but who is arguing against that. Who is mischaracterizing Spamton so badly. Literally who. Name one well-known example- No, one well-known person, who has characterized Spamton so exceptionally poorly. I literally dare you to try to find even the smallest sliver of an example that isn’t either unfathomably niche or just a joke (And no the Salt Route and any fanmade content of or inspired by it doesn’t count)

By all means, please, enlighten me in regards to this far-reaching catastrophe that, by some insane stroke of bad luck, I am the only person in the universe who doesn’t know about it. This absolute earth-shattering travesty that conveniently is actively avoiding doing any damage to my house

#deltarune #spamton #like honestly i’m starting to think y’all are just bored of the DR fandom having so little to actively complain about

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vonaegiremblem · 2 years

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I'm genuinely surprised I've never seen anyone bring up the amount of similarities between Commander Tartar from Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion and Spamton from Deltarune (at least in the normal route). Like, I know Octo Expansion came out 4 years ago, but there is an impressive amount of overlap:

Both rely on heavy use of religious symbolism and theming, frequently referring to heaven/paradise.

Both are in computers. Tartar is an AI, Spamton is a spam email.

Both have very distinct methods of speaking, and their sentences are often interrupted by words and phrases in [brackets]. They both also have "normal" speech modes that they switch to (though Spamton does not seem to have control over which mode he's in).

Both send you on fetch quests that result in them betraying you with the very machines you helped them retrieve.

Both put their respective protagonists into certain death situations only for the protags' allies to step in last second and save them.

Telephones.

Both of them want to kill their protagonists so that they can take something from their body. Spamton wants to kill Kris to take their soul. Tartar wants to blend Agent 8 and take their DNA to create "the perfect life."

Both of their fights involve riding on rails and attacking things attached to the body they're housed in.

Both Spamton and Tartar received directions from a mysterious figure, and after they lost that guidance they both went off the deep end.

#splatoon 2 #octo expansion #deltarune #spamton #commander tartar #So I only just now beat the octo expansion because I never bought it and Nintendo added it to NSO #It was really good but I don't know why everyone thought it was so challenging when it came out #the only really difficult station was ink-a-zig-ah: girl power station #Anyway; I was going to try and connect the professor to gaster; you know with both having a scientific background #both have overarching impacts on both the first and second game; but there's no official confirmation that gaster's on the phone

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liliallowed · 3 months

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Crimson has played Deltarune right?

How do they feel about the lack of control they have in outcomes in Deltarune?

Have they done the Weird route / Snow grave route?

oh they LOVE the snow grave route!

but deltarune seems to be... build different. it's not reacting to their resets.

it's like... gaster put up tons of safety locks and ducktape all over a house they're trying to set on fire.

they've seen no indication of any person reacting to their resets but ... being directly mentioned by the screen at the beginning surprised them.

although crimson doubts the game recognizes them... or their genocide Speedrun records and history.

they wonder what would happen if they introduced the corrupted files of their dusttale runs in the same file folder where deltarune is installed?

they won't do that yet. they want to finish the vanilla experience first and then set all he'll lose on this new world.

jevil? they ADORE him. he GETS IT!

seam is mysterious and they're keen on learning more about him.

spamton is a bit annoying...

Noelle is extremely powerful. more so than they'd expect from a kid. they suspect the holidays are boss monsters.

Kris... they don't exactly see eye to eye. crimson has TRIED winning Kris over? but Kris hates them no matter what so crimson just shrugged it off and said "fk it imma show you how EVIL I can be instead now."

they don't really understand Kris. what's up with them? what are they planning? did they plan all that?

they have a feeling ralsei to a hiding something and that the roaring is more than just titans...

something about the world collapsing on itself because the ballance has been thrown off. it's TOO FAMILIAR.

it almost would seem like a plausible explanation for sans's personality shift.

titans... angels... or are these simply the way the people in this world conceptualize a "code error" or "glitches" ?

#deltarune #dusttale player #crimson #dust grave easter eggs

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legitimatesatanspawn · 3 months

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Just felt like tossing this out: I still don't trust Ralsei. He's slowly getting better in Ch2 but Ch1? I flat out don't trust him and I have very good reason not to. He's cute and genuinely sweet, but...

The Prophecy was displayed in such a way that we are led to think that the Lightners and Darkner Prince are the party. They could be. Hell they probably are. But... Ralsei's kingdom is desolate. Even the castle grounds itself is quite literally a ghost town (both in terms of design being similar to the Blook family houses and in how barren it is of people). We're not allowed in the castle at that time or even into the inn or shops.

With how many Darkners and how long their history is implied to be in Spade King's area, I find it more probable that that Fountain is older. Our entry to the Dark World felt more like a summoning or a newly formed Fountain creating that connection. The place we first appeared is too broken up and empty in comparison to any other area of the game to be anything but the outskirts of their world's edge. Hell, the game even calls it in the Legend: "three heroes appear at world's edge".

Ralsei promised he'd be there to help seal the Fountain. It was suggested that we needed three people there. And guess what? We only had two people of the three to seal it because Lancer was busy (whether you kill Spade or not) and the throne room area was blocked off. But when Ralsei whipped off his hat this spooked Susie because he looks just like a young Asriel. We were, both Kris and the Player, were rushed out.

So instead of sealing the Fountain, the player's SOUL was... bathed in the dark? And the two Lightners saw the Deltarune world for what it was: a collection of toys. Yet we still were able to go back and this time and while it was barely a day for Kris and Susie, I'm not entirely sure that Ralsei was joking when he said he waited "so long" for them to return.

Lancer was even the first Darkner we see in the Dark World. But he attacked us. Which... isn't really something that'd keep him from joining, but his father Spade King just like Jevil was manipulated by the Knight. There's also the assumption that the Knight is the same entity that manipulated Spamton. So Lancer thinking he has to be the bad guy just goes to show how much the Knight has twisted everything up.

And then there's the fact that Ralsei said he was given the prophecy "by time and space", and when you speak with Seam about being heroes he is amused. Jevil could've seen some portents of the future but given his actions only Seam gave them any thought as time went on. And Ralsei straight up knows the mechanics of the world. He knows where the "Light World" forms of everyone are. And of course it is from him we learn about the Roaring and the consequences of making too many Dark Fountains.

I still think that Ralsei is the red horn headband Kris had as a kid. Which raises so many questions on why an artifact of Kris's childhood would be so sketchy. Clingy I understand given he lives alone and the whole macaroni manual is right out of a little kid's playbook around where I live.

So everything both in the backstory and right now as you play is being set up to either consolidate the Dark World into Ralsei's domain for whatever reason, or just plain destroy the other Dark Fountains and their surroundings. If Spade King was set up by the Knight to become just a villain in the game, to make the Card Kingdom's Fountain the target instead of the true newly formed one..

Ralsei thinks the new fountain was Spade's but it just doesn't make sense. The fountain gives substance to the land beneath them. And the fountain seen "on the horizon" isn't necessarily the one you think it is.

Ralsei clearly knows more about the Dark World and how it connects with the Light World but I have no idea if he's aware of the endgame. He just wants friends.

#deltarune #ralsei #just talking #i don't trust ralsei #character acting sus #deltarune meta #deltarune speculation #dark fountain #player deltarune #lancer is the prince of the legend #assuming the prophecy is even real #overthinking again #undertale

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overfedvenison · 1 year

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There’s a chance Asriel will join the party come Chapter 4 I saw it pointed out that Deltarune likely begins on a Thursday - this is because the school week ends on Chapter 2. Now, it’s noted that there is an upcoming festival - so this might be a nonstandard day off. But it’s likely this game did not begin on a Monday as we may have assumed. If Chapter 1 is on a Thursday, 2 is on a Friday, and 3 is on a saturday, then Chapter 4 is on a Sunday. And that is the start of the next week...

Asriel was stated to come back “Next week,” which notably does not mean “Seven days from now.” I think many of us assumed he would return at the end of the game, but that’s not necessarily the case Additionally, we have the unusual flowers:

Take a look: These flowers are not merely an Undertale reference Going clockwise, we have Purple, Blue, Aqua, Gold, Yellow, Red, and Green. That’s very notable because we now have enough information to place ALL of these to a Deltarune character. In order: Purple: Susie Blue: Berdly. We never control Berdly directly, but he is referred to as Blue repeatedly, on the Weird Route a blue bead is torn off the doctor’s office toy if you examine it, and there is a blue bird light in one of the Queen’s Mansion puzzles, etc. Aqua: Kris Gold: Asriel. We have never seen Asriel here, but anyone who has played Undertale will know the association between a Gold Flower and him Yellow: Noelle Red: December. In the Spamton Sweepstakes event, we encounter a Red Guitar associated with Dess. Green: Ralsei They also, of course, reference the Human Souls of Undertale. We know the colour associations of the characters I didn’t list because they are shown explicitly - The character icons and names are those colours

If we go clockwise, we also see a pattern emerge: Chapter 1 is very much about Susie’s evolution as a character. Chapter 2 is Berdly’s (Yes, Noelle also gets a lot of focus - but she’s still very much at the start of her arc, compared to Berdly changing a lot.) Chapter 3 is in Kris’ house - How do you make a chapter about a character who doesn’t talk? You put them in a situation where you can learn about them through context. Then the last two... The final two chapters are likely the time we find out what is actually up with December and Ralsei, and delve into the deepest lore. So that tracks, too - especially if the last chapter deals with us finally discovering who Ralsei really is If we DO assume this is all in order? That would mean 4 involves Asriel, and 5 is about Noelle

#deltarune

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corals-corner · 2 years

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A few more quotes just because why not. Mainly King, Queen and Rouxls, withe other sprinkled in. Also @spammyart gave me the idea for the dumbass trio

Queen: king, have you seen Rouxls ?

King: I'm not seeing Rouxls !

Queen: ... What?

King: What?

♤♡◇♧◇♡♤♡◇♧

King: Our first year as a married couple and we’re still in love.

Queen: In your face, those who said we couldn’t last a year!

Rouxls : I standeth by mine wedding toast!

♤♡◇♧◇♡♤♡◇♧

King: Alright, now everyone pay attention. I have an announcement to make and I only have a minute.

Queen: Why?

Rouxls : Art thou in a hurry?

King: No, I was referring to your relatively short attention spans.

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King: Is anyone going to tell me what's going on here?!

Queen: It's kinda complicated, but Rouxls -

King: Got it. Forget I asked.

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King: Oh, Rouxls , it’s just you.

Queen: We were afraid it was somebody important.

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King, about Queen: It's weird, it's like ... I ... I like them. Much.

Rouxls : ...

Rouxls : Thou liketh her much?

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Queen: Anyone d-

Spamton: Depressed?

Seam: Drained?

Jevil : Dumb?

King: Disliked?

Queen: -done with their work... what is wrong with you people...

♤♡◇♧◇♡♤♡◇♧

Jevil: Wow! Swatch made you cry?

Spamton, tearing up: Yes, and they said some really [crewel and unusual] things that are only [50% off] true.

♤♡◇♧◇♡♤♡◇♧

Rouxls: I liketh puzzles.

King: No, you don’t.

Rouxls: I loveth puzzles.

King: You literally talk back to the New York Times crossword. You yell at it.

Rouxls: Can I tell thou something about the New York Times crossword? Very often, they put the wrongeth number of boxes in to house the correct word.

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Rouxls: Thou look like you fought 10 people and raneth a mile to get here.

King: Twelve people. Four miles.

#deltarune #king deltarune #king of spades #chaos king #deltarune queen #queen #rouxls kaard #rouxls deltarune #rouxls kaard deltarune #seam deltarune #deltarune seam #deltarune jevil #jevil #spamton g. spamton #deltarune spamton #spamton #dumbass trio #the dumbass trio

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pinkaddiofficial · 1 year

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https://youtu.be/BbF6wKwCrX4

* Hometown looks... strange.

* The framework is, for the most part, unchanged. Most of the buildings have some new subtractions, pockmarked with scars from various attacks, but everything is still mostly in the same place.

* This, however, is where the similarities end.

* Almost every tree has been uprooted, gouged, slashed, cut, or otherwise defiled, most not even standing anymore, and all of them completely devoid of leaves and mostly relieved of their branches.

* Drops and small puddles of Darkness lay stagnant on the ground, reflecting nothing but a soft rainbow of colour, so much like Spamton's tea, yet still distinct as two parallel lines.

* Where the largest puddles have begun to coalesce, you can see the beginnings of shape and form, the suggestion of grass and brick alluded to in the prismatic reflection, a hallmark, like rust, of the reaction between contained Darkness and ambient Light, suggesting the beginning of Hometown's transformation.

* Strangely, there are plants almost everywhere. They don't seem to have any particular pattern to the way they grow; some grow from single, dark stems, some clutter bushes with black branches and leaves, most grow from vines of ebony that curve their way around houses and cars.

* But what all of these strange almost-plants have in common is their flowers. Six soft, silver petals, clustered around a large pistil of the same colour. Someone who had seen them before might notice their resemblamce to the golden flowers humans use to make tea.

* Unfortunately, Cam's small database of pre-programmed knowledge did not come with images.

* Strangest perhaps are the objects, scattered about with a careful sort of placement. They are numerous, more than a hundred in this section of street alone, tens of random objects placed about in a deliberate, decorative fashion.

* At a glance, it seems there is no reason to the abandoned computer mice snd rubber ducks and rosary beads, but closer inspection reveals something in the way that the sun's light glares harsh, almost metallic, over even painted wood.

* Cam picks up a mouse, tied lovingly to the porch railing of a house with three deep gashes in its side, with a deeply horrified expression.

* It is ice.

* Every object is half-frozen, glittering shards of ice having broken their way through from within. The mouse they hold looks as though it was violently ruptured, frozen from the inside out, metal warped along the places where there were already gaps. One of the buttons was pried completely off, lost forever to time, revealing wires covered in glittering, unmelting frost.

* They drop the mouse as though it had burned them, scrambling back with a despondent screech like the grinding of gears. Even as they become choked with guilt and grief and bitter, lonely regret, their mind puts together the pieces as their eyes sweep back and forth across the landscape.

* Hanging from porches, sitting in chairs, wrapped around poles and arranged primly upon the tips of awnings, are Darkner host objects, frozen beyond any hope of repair.

#ic #crossover event...2!#hometown #birthed from three months of procrastination and my tumblr account... im hot topic /ref #its finally fuckin here #addison music

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deltaruminations · 9 months

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Skeleton Darkners is in that space where i don’t buy most of the Evidence cited for it but i also don’t buy a lot of the of the arguments i’ve seen against it. the evidence feels like an overthinking of cherrypicked details that are more likely coincidences than anything else. on the other hand i feel like a lot of the refutations betray a lack of… i dunno… curiosity?

“shouldn’t they just be objects in the light world?” yeah. exactly. they should be. if they’re darkners walking around and retaining their form in the light world then that means they’re anomalies. is that not an interesting possibility in a game that incorporates glitches and game-breaking behavior into its diegesis? in a story that seems interested in examining the process of story-creation and the relationships between creators, creations, and audiences, in which darkners represent self-aware fictional characters? doesn’t that seem consistent with the skeletons' generally anomalous natures? why the hell do they have dark world doors in their house???

“why isn’t ralsei making a fuss about it?” who’s to say he knows about it? he doesn’t know about jevil or spamton before meeting them and they’re absolutely Problem Darkners. i don't think the evidence holds that ralsei is all-knowing; he has a Prophecy and some way of detecting other Fountains when they open, but he doesn’t seem to be clued into stuff otherwise. not to mention... if the person who’s feeding him information is also one of the people who escaped, then it follows that they could keep that information from him if they needed to.

“but how did they enter the light world at all?” <- a question i’ve posed myself in the past that is currently unanswerable, though we do know that spamton thinks it involves using a lightner’s SOUL. where’d he get that idea from? did he just make it up because he’s Random and Unhinged or is it possible he learned about it from someone? are there any known lightners who are presently unaccounted for? i can think of one. that does bring up the question of “did sans and papyrus take SOULs too?” to which i’d say i’m EXTREMELY skeptical that either of them would do that lol. but it’s possible that it isn’t as simple as Steal a Lightner SOUL, Become a Real Boy. maybe a Lightner SOUL is just part of a bigger equation? why does the story even have spamton make such a big deal out of the possibility of a darkner “reaching heaven” in the first place if that isn’t an idea it’s looking to explore further?

i think part of the issue is that most of this theorycraft centers around sans and papyrus being darkners and i just don’t think that’s the most fruitful lens for interrogating this given the current information. there aren’t majorly compelling reasons right now for why either of them should have originated as darkners, but i do think there are compelling reasons to think gaster in particular might have. light and dark are a balance, right? we have our Forces of Light. who’s our Force of Darkness? gaster’s entire deal centers around darkness, in both literal and metaphorical senses, as a major motif. he’s a satan figure, a representative of temptation and want; he’s a gnawing absence, an unknown that begs to be understood; he’s an eye peering through a crack in the wall. ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN seems to discuss a descent into darkness beyond dark. memoryhead has only six faces until you count the laughing skull that they comprise. we may even have a direct foil for gaster in a specific missing lightner who parallels him in situation yet contrasts him in motifs. they’re mutually connected to noelle, who’s attuned to the unknown, a conduit between the Real and Unreal, the only lightner gaster seems to attempt to contact directly (barring the tree rooms, which may have more to do with the Player than they do with kris). does it not make sense for this story’s greatest arbiter of darkness — the one who, by the story’s own logic, is fulfilling a certain Purpose to a higher/greater power by facilitating the Player’s entry into a layer of reality below theirs — to be, himself, a darkner?

#again i’m not sold yet on this theory but i do find it weirdly compelling.#im just kind of infatuated with it right now lol i can’t stop thinking about it. the possibilities. the implications #if the skeletons originated as darkners then whose Will was it that initially gave them forms?#$ 666 mystery man lore hell

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