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thesummerestsolstice · 2 months
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I love how the entrance to Rivendell is shown in the Hobbit movies– the path is clearly enchanted; the geography is wonky, and the passage only shows up when Thorin & co really need to escape danger.
I feel like this is just how Rivendell works– there are no set pathways in and out of the valley, strange corridors and hidden passages to it just show up when and where they're needed. People who have been to Rivendell before can usually find their way back pretty easily, but even they usually can't explain exactly how they got there. Only the residents of Rivendell can reliably lead others to the valley– and Galadriel, because she's Galadriel. It usually takes Gandalf a while to find the path. He's convinced Elrond just like messing with him.
This is very much Elrond channeling his inner Melian. Doriath was extremely hard to get into, but in the normal fairy way where you just get lost in the woods endlessly if you're not welcome, and the forest parts for you if you are. Elrond saw that and decided to spice things up a little for his realm. You know, some impossible rock formations, a few very strange trees, landscaping that is vaguely beyond mortal comprehension, all that.
Rivendell's residents think it's great. Most outsiders think it's a little creepy.
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hollowwhisperings · 1 year
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Elven Maturity (Tolkien)
an interesting thing about Tolkien's elves is how historical they are: they are the living history of Middle-Earth as they know it (dwarven records & the avari memories likely differ).
the noldo and silvan elves met in LOTR are OLD. so old that Legolas could very plausibly be interpreted as having suffered being treated as "the baby" for, like, four hundred years.
(i assume that Arwen & her brothers are older simply because their parents became a couple before Thranduil became a king)
the age of Tolkien's elves thusly makes it difficult to discern a true "age of maturity": Galadriel was born before Arda had a sun, Elrond's dad is a star, Elrond married Galadriel's daughter and her grandkids look as old/young as she does when the Fellowship meets them. Arwen was an "adult" by mannish standards when Estel came to live at Imladris but her subsequent move & stay with Grandma Galadriel spares readers the awkward thought of Arwen grooming Aragorn for her husband.
This fixation on Arwen is Key because she is of the Peredhel, the half-elven. The first known peredhel is technically Luthien, born of maia and elf, but it is her child with a human who is the first "true" instance of a peredhel in the sense of a "Schrodinger's Immortal".
The age of elves becomes very pertinent to the modern reader when Dior is seemingly orphaned, married to an elven princess(?), has three kids with her, gets abandoned(?) by his maia grandmother due to his grandfather's violent death & left with said grandfather's throne... by the age of 33. not as in "33 years of The Trees" or "33 years in The Lamps"... 33 solar years. Mannish years. THIRTY THREE.
Dior was the first peredhel to be both mortal (human) and immortal (elf): Luthien was the Tolkien equivalent of a demigod but it's unlikely that that changed the expectations for her, in terms of lifestages or maturity.
Dior though? He was raised by isolationist elves during a Politically Tense period of time and no love story is alluded to, between he and Nimloth. The elves Dior was raised amongst did not think highly of humans nor dwarves (nor other elves) and Dior was the first half demi-god, half human elf known. Did they think that his mannish blood made him quicker to mature & doomed to mortality? Did Dior or any of the persons involved with his marriage have enough experience with ELVEN children, nevermind human children to compare against, to discern how "mature" Dior was or wasn't?
I cannot think of any elven romance that did not take at least a decade or three to result in a promise of "forever" or 'til mortality. This makes the prospect of a 30 year old King Dior, newly father to twin peredhels, a disturbing image.
Then we have Dior's daughter, Elwing, meet the only other peredhel not related to her: Earendil, son of Idril Celebrindal and the human Tuor.
Where Elwing was raised by elves & recently orphaned, Earendil had grown up in Gondolin with both an immortal & mortal parent to mind him. Earendil and Elwing were both 23 when they wed: this I find easier to accept, with the extent of their shared experiences of being refugees and not-wholly elven. that Tuor, a human mortal, is also canonically present helps significantly with my comfort zone: no alarms rang in his head when these two 23 year olds got hitched and thus, by mannish standards, they were two consenting adults.
HOWEVER.
we still do not know what ELVES think makes a wholly mature elf - the Noldor elves that these peredhel live amongst are still adapting to the "quickness" of mortal lifespans, of life beyond Valinor. There is, presumably, still a majority amongst the Noldo who predate the first sunrise: whether the silvans hold alternate expectations of maturity, based on living amongst mortals all this time, is unknown. I would safely consider Earendil to be am adult by human standards: he may have also had the mental faculties of an adult elf as well, thus able to recognise and understand an Eternal Committment.
...Elwing probably doesn't. She was raised amongst elves and likely expected to be exactly like Dior and he like Luthien: part-divine and thus, potentially, mature by default. Her actions upon meeting her childhood nightmares - the Sons of Feanor - seem more in-line with a traumatised youth than a traditionally "wise" elf (or human): she jumped out of a window with a [very definitely cursed] holy lightbulb without much thought to the two small children she left behind.
which... her childhood nightmare was "The Sons Of Feanor Stole My Parents And Brothers": Elwing yeeting herself from a tower does Exactly That, all to keep her "rightful inheritance" (i.e. Luthien's winning a silmaril off Morgoth by sing-off/right of conquest & Elwing being Luthien' direct descendant).
the only way i can read Elwing's actions - did SHE know she could turn into a bird when she yeeted herself? did she ever plan on, y'know, coming back after her understandable panic response? no? straight off to alleged elf heaven? kidnap fam it is then - is as Elwing, young adult of several species and never truly able to be any bar one, being out of her depth and going full maia (as her great-grandmother melian before her).
Elrond taking a few centuries to get together with Celebrian, Arwen then taking a few decades to figure things out with Estel... the difference between these later love stories in contrast to Dior and Elwing (& to elf/elf romances) is Very Striking.
Tolkien's elves can get very, very old. Their societies developed with the core concept of their getting old & living eternally. Elves cannot simply marry on a whim - they had better be certain on their spouse or they're in for a very, very taxing eternity (the Avari have different customs but any cross-cultural exchanging of notes seems to have failed miserably in the face of The Maeglin Situation).
The first [mortal&immortal] peredhel died before the weight of immortality could be felt; the second peredhels all left the realms of mortals very abruptly; the third generation of peredhels had entirely unique circumstances that resulted in Elrond being Elrond, Father Figure to generations of Mortal Men and Designated Sane Voice in every crisis.
I wonder what Elrond would think of his grandfather Dior if he were to ever meet him: Elrond has spent several immortal lifetimes learning all things peredhel. I struggle to think of Dior leaving the halls of Mandos, of Dior adapting easily to life amongst the truly immortal.
And if I consider 33 to be "too young" for a Peredhel to swear eternity to an immortal elf... what does that mean for the wholly elven Maeglin, whose orphaning at 80 solar years lead to his being RAISED in the utterly alien Gondolin? Maeglin, whose tween crush on his cousin (who is, if not "older than the sun" very certainly "old as heck" at this time) became blown entirely out of proportion due to his very existence being a Scandalous Tragedy to the Noldo.
Maeglin dying at 190 is considered "very young for an elf". What humans was Doriath in the habit of noticing for them to consider 30 year old Dior an eligible bachelor?
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thelien-art · 27 days
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Lúthien Tinúviel; Princess of Doriath, with Huan the Hound of Valinor
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I know I know I keep changing her design, with some key elements staying, but I think I have it this time! I´m sure!! till next time where I might change it again But then again she is half Maia so she could probably shapeshift
I wanted her to look as uncanny/Eldritch as possible so I tried to give her too-big pupils, an almost mammal nose, a too long neck, and her deer ears - I wanted to include feathers somehow because I hc Dior has a feathered back as if he were supposed to grow wings but only got the feathers, so my excuse is that she can "shapeshift" a bit to look like a blend between elf, deer, and bird - but I DID give her claws!
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Tolkien: I’ve written an epic eldritch star-crossed straight love story in Doriath and a tragic suicidal secret gay drama in hithlum but this whole Silmarils and limb loss thing is getting old
Tolkien: what if I write an epic tragic eldritch suicidal star-crossed secret gay AND straight love story drama in hithlum AND Doriath AND Nargothrond with dragons, dwarves, and incest instead?
his son: “my father saw the character of turin as central to the story”
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thelordofgifs · 12 days
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Friday Fic Recs: Long WIP edition
I’ve been thinking a little bit about the (very arduous) process of writing longfic, and how much of a difference support and cheerleading can make on that particular journey; so, although it’s been a while since I’ve made a Friday rec list, I thought I’d put one together celebrating all the incredible in-progress longfics in the Tolkien fandom I’m keeping up with at the moment!
Atandil series by @eilinelsghost. Such a gorgeous graceful moving exploration of Finrod and his relationship with Men, and the slowest and most sensual of slow burns in his romance with Bëor. The amount this series has made me THINK – about love, and hope, and memory, and Taliska grammar – is off the charts, and to top it off it’s written in the loveliest most Tolkienesque prose.
we will make this place our home by @leucisticpuffin. Ohh this AU is just like a warm gentle hug after a long day. The “kidnap fam but make it a classic children’s novel” concept is so so inspired, all the characterisations are so nuanced and moving (Maglor my beloved!!) and the OCs will steal your heart.
And Love Grew by @polutrope. On the other end of the kidnap fam spectrum, this complex and careful examination of the time after the Third Kinslaying is SO brilliant. Incredible characterisations of all the key players, some truly fascinating OCs (Dornil!!) and of course beautiful graceful prose.
tongues of the sky series by @welcomingdisaster. The first fic in this series, seabird, was written for me and I can be SO obnoxious about this :) but also it’s a wonderful moving ultimately hopeful fix-it AU with note-perfect russingon and m&m dynamics. The sequel, sparrowhawk, is currently in progress and soooo good.
ashes, ashes, dust to dust — the devil’s after both of us by @that-angry-noldo. This is SUCH an original and fascinating take on an AU where Maedhros and Maglor take Finarfin captive to bargain for the Silmarils, featuring incredible character dynamics and a terrifyingly eldritch Eönwë.
and all his towers cast down by @actual-bill-potts. What if Finrod survived the events of the Leithian? Well, angst and trauma, to start off with. And also beautiful beautiful writing, impeccable characterisation and a Maglor-Lúthien teamup!! I adore this AU.
All That Glitters Gold Rush AU series by @allthatglittersisnotgoldrush. This one is LONG LONG LONG, but also SO worth it. Ever wanted to see the entire Silmarillion retold as a western, complete with a terribly tragic and complicated Maedhros, Morgoth the terrifying slave-owner, and a beautifully multicultural Doriath? The authors have you covered.
And the Stars Shine the Same series by @runawaymun. OC-centric fic is such a rare delight and this series set in early Third Age Rivendell is just wonderful, tender and complicated and with a truly incredible Elrond.
Retelling the Hobbit comic by @retellingthehobbit. Something a little different, but I binged all of this comic retelling of The Hobbit on a plane recently and GOD it’s so so beautiful. A truly gorgeous art style, and slowly converting me from a Bilbo/Thorin sceptic into an enjoyer!
In Heart by @tanoraqui. An AU where Fëanor takes the Doom of the Noldor as a what-not-to-do manual and ends up making better choices! Featuring incredible worldbuilding and fantastic characterisation.
Please add on the longfics you love in the reblogs! Let’s get some love going for these difficult beasts!
(Couple of incest recs under the cut.)
naught green upon the oak series by @welcomingdisaster. A CoH-inspired Maedhros/Maglor AU in which Maglor winds up with amnesia after his encounter with Glaurung. I’m SO insane about this series that I can’t be coherent but it is fantastic and chilling and devastating with the most beautiful prose aahhh.
Strange Currencies by @jouissants. Maedhros is re-embodied at last only to learn that he is married to Maglor: a touching and painful post-canon fic interleaved with incredible flashbacks to the First Age.
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maeofthenoldor · 1 year
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I dont think we talk about how terrifying maglor can be. I see many people follow this idea that he is soft or the softest of the fëanorians. However I could say he was probably the most terrifying to outsiders, if not the most feared of the fëanorians. Like he committed three kinslayings, committed many war crimes, hunted and killed Ulfang out of pure vengeance and held Maglor's gap which was the closest to Angband for hundreds of years!
This also has to do with his voice. I mean, we all love eldritch minstrels for a reason. And he most defintely fills that category. Who's to say he doesn't sing when he fights, or hums when he kills? Imagine your one of the Sindarin elves running from the ruins of Doriath only to hear an eerie hymn waft in the breeze as a towering elf comes and cuts you down. To push this even further, who's to say his music doesn't have power?
We already know that music plays a vital role in Tolkiens world, with  the songs of powers and how magic is manifested from it. Based on how I perceive Maglor’s "Voice". I see think his voice holds the power to manipulate the songs of creation, and therefore the very essence of the world to some degree. What if with only a simple line of song and it can either freeze, hypnotize of even rupture a heart with only his voice and singing. imagine the reason he was able to hold the gap for so long was because he was able to use the cliffs and valley to amplify his voice which would be used to strike fear, hypnotize or even kill the enemies that tried to invade. 
Finally, all this could be used to visualize a creepy one-sided fight between Maglor and Ulfang. I have a couple ideas on how it would play out, but first tw for blood loss and painful death: 
What if when Maglor is hunting him down, he chases the traitor through the forest, using his voice like an echolocation to know exactly where he is hiding. The closer he gets, the weaker Ulfang feels and he beings to yell for him to have mercy but Maglor says nothing except to continue humming a haunting tune that echoes through the woods. Eventually he corners the traitor and finally Maglor begins to sing, which freezes Ulfang in fear. Maglor begins to cut him in many places but not in any place that would kill him immediately. Ulfang still can’t move. Eventually he has to many deep wounds and cuts that Maglor watches him bleed to death. Not only can you freeze an enemy, you can slowly kill them without them even moving.
Now that is how to make one of the most dangerous fëanorians, truly terrifying. 
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shrikeseams · 1 year
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Can you make a calligraphy/illumination brush with human hair?
Is Luthien occasionally trimming a lock of her hair for Daeron to use for calligraphy brushes anything?
(On some level Daeron stringing a musical instrument with her hair feels more textually attested, what with bows strung with elf hair, but like. That's way more of a haircut commitment. Maybe that's why she has the hair growth spell? Because once a decade she gives herself a pixie cut to supply the marchwardens of doriath with bowstrings? But I was looking at paintbrushes so that's the angle. Also idk, Luthien's hair used to inscribe Daeron's cirth just. Does something for me that the stringing option just doesn't.)
@an-eldritch-peredhel, I feel like you may have an opinion here.
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An Eldritch Luthien Silm Fic
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My love reigns in suffering
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King Felagund can befriend, and Lady Galadriel can negotiate, but there is no true communication and she expects nothing of them. They are not like her siren, who merely had to pluck the Song’s Strings before it leapt to his assistance. They are not the elf she holds in her arms, with his night-black hair and marble-pale skin so reminiscent of her Naneth.
Their Naneth, if she can only spirit him away to Doriath without causing a diplomatic incident.
Or; Luthien tries to kidnap-adopt herself another little brother. It goes about as well as you’d expect when Maedhros enters the scene.
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I’m trying out this whole “showcasing on tumblr” thing cuz, why not. Anyways, enjoy reading about the first Peredhel 7:)
Context Notes: Luthien is supposed to be younger and more impulsive here. Author is Terrible at IRL Geography, let alone Tolkien Geography. With Peredhel meaning “Half-Elf”, I’ve decided Luthien & Daeron count as Peredhel. Author did no prior research for Daeron. Daeron is Luthien’s brother in this.
-> No Romantic Relationship(s), No Smut, No Incest <-
Luthien, trying to expand her family: come to Luthien, little elf!
Maglor, actively experiencing a horror novel: 😀😬🎶
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polutrope · 1 year
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ok I slandered Daeron in the tags to that best singers poll and I FEEL BAD so go on convince me that I should like him ;)
(mainly not a fan of his behaviour to Luthien - I love your daemags fics though <3)
Heh, saying you don't like a character is hardly slander! But I will take any opportunity to defend the B-Side of First Age Disappearing and Despairing Minstrels.
First, some reasons Daeron is cool:
He's the greatest minstrel of the Elf clan (the Teleri) specifically known for singing. He's one of the only instances of an Elf who hasn't seen the light of Aman being the best at anything.
Silm says that "Under ... the teaching of Melian [the Sindar] became the fairest and the most wise and skillful of all the Elves of Middle-earth," and Daeron is singled-out as one of the greatest among the greatest -- and not only for his music! He is also a loremaster and invented the Cirth. Everyone compares him to Maglor but I actually think there's a bit of a Sindarin Feanor vibe to Daeron. In later ages, I like to think many great Sindarin creations would get attributed to Daeron whether they're his or not (there are other versions of the history of Cirth where Tolkien seems to be getting at this), like the Noldor would attribute their great inventions to Feanor.
Daeron's name, in later etymologies, is actually related to the word 'great'.
His name, in earlier etymologies, means 'shadow of trees' which is so mysterious and poetic.
Daeron's teacher and the Queen he sang for, was there for the Ainulindale itself (thanks @an-eldritch-peredhel for the point!). Melian is also said to have been most skilled of all the Ainur in "songs of enchantment" and the Valar would stop their work to hear her singing at the Mingling. That's who taught Daeron!
The Sindar were a largely an oral culture, but Daeron -- during the peaceful years of Thingol and Melian's rule in Beleriand -- invented an alphabet. Even in times of bliss, he cared about the preservation of memory and knowledge. I love that for him. This gorgeous quote ends the paragraph about his invention of the Cirth:
But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.
Like Maglor, he has the same tragic arc of messing up, repenting, and self-exiling. Unfortunately, he gets such cursory treatment in the published Silm that this doesn't really come through (in particular the repentance part).
I could say more, but now we've come to repentance, let's address the real elephant in the room: betraying Luthien. This is going under a cut.
I tend to see Daeron getting dismissed (or loathed) based on some variation of "he was a jealous unrequited stalker who betrays Luthien". And there's some truth to that (definitely the betrayal part), but I think a lot of assumptions are made about him based on certain unrequited lover tropes (Maeglin), or perhaps negative real life experiences, that I don't think really apply to Daeron.
Here's why.
He was Luthien's close friend.
Let's start with what we can squeeze out about their relationship from the Silm:
Then Luthien, perceiving that no help would come from any other on earth, resolved to fly from Doriath and come herself to [Beren]; but she sought the aid of Daeron, and he betrayed her purpose to the King.
[Daeron] it was that made music for the dance and song of Luthien, before Beren came to Doriath; and he had loved her, and set all his thought of her in his music.
Ignoring for a second that he betrayed her (that's coming up), Daeron spent a lot of time with Luthien (making music for her) and he was the person she trusted enough to ask for help in going after Beren. They may not have loved each other in the same way, but there was reciprocal affection there.
(In the Tale of Tinuviel he's her brother, so at its origins the relationship is so close that they are siblings.)
The Lay of Leithian makes their friendship much more apparent, as the bits below will show.
2. His betrayals of Luthien are complex.
In the Silm, Daeron twice betrays Luthien.
First, he tells Thingol she's been hanging out with Beren:
But Daeron the minstrel also loved Luthien, and he espied her meetings with Beren, and betrayed them to Thingol.
Then, he tells Thingol that she's planning to go after him (quoted above).
The first one, I admit, comes off kinda jealous and petty. But think about his situation. His best friend (who he may be in love with - but note that in love is never the phrasing) has just started secretly hanging out with this mortal who stumbled out of the bushes. This is not safe! This is extremely unexpected and stressful! He is upset!
He is also sworn to serve his king. He kind of has to tell Thingol once he knows this about his daughter. Yes, perhaps he had no business stalking around to see what she was up to, but he was worried. Probably would have been better to just talk to her (we don't know that he didn't, actually), but he's certainly not the only male character in Luthien's story who doesn't ask her what she thinks before taking action (this includes Beren).
As for the second betrayal, again he's sworn to serve his king and she puts him in an awkward position when she reveals her plans to go after Beren. But more importantly, he's worried for her safety! From his perspective, she's lost her mind. And how was he to know Thingol's reaction would be to lock her in a treehouse?
The way this all plays out in Lay of Leithian makes all these implied complexities more apparent:
Luthien starts having secret forest meetups with Beren and Daeron sees them together. He gets very upset and lays a curse of silence on Doriath (sidenote: kinda awesome that he has this power??).
Thingol summons Daeron to ask him what is going on with the silence. Daeron replies in riddling terms, and Thingol asks him to clarify.
But Dairon looked on Luthien and would he had not spoken then, and no more would he speak that day, though Thingol's face with wrath was grey.
So even midway through his "betrayal" (questioning by Thingol), Daeron seems to repent. It's Luthien herself who steps up and reveals what's happening.
Thingol is mad, he sends everyone off except Daeron, whom he asks to watch Luthien, which he "heavyhearted did" (Daeron is really not a position to say no here).
The watching proves unnecessary because Luthien brings Beren to Menegroth herself. Beren makes his speech about wanting to marry her.
Here Daeron behaves poorly. He calls for Beren's death, which is mean (but it is also a pretty badass moment and underlies my slightly-unstable Daeron headcanons) -- but! Tolkien actually struck these lines out and in the published Silm it's Thingol who wants Beren dead. Christopher Tolkien says of this cut: "It may be that my father wished to represent Dairon as less unequivocally hostile to Beren, and also ashamed of his words to Thingol."
Next time Daeron shows up Luthien is going to him for consolation and help (as in the Silm):
'O Dairon, Dairon, my tears,' she cried, 'now pity for our old day's sake!'
She asks him to play music for her, which he does, and she feels better.
Addressing him as "my friend" she asks for his help "if he would not for love of her / go by her side a wanderer" seeking for Beren.
Daeron swears to protect her -- but what he really means is he's going to tell her dad that she's lost her goddamn mind.
But straightway Dairon sought the king and told him his daughter's pondering, and how her madness might her lead to ruin, unless the king gave heed.
When Thingol decides the appropriate response here is to lock her up, Daeron feels pretty bad about it, and often visits Hirilorn.
There Dairon grieving often stood in sorrow for the captive of the wood [...] Luthien would from her window stare and see him far under piping there, and she forgave his betraying word for the music and the grief she heard, and only Dairon would she let across her threshold foot to set.
Which brings me to:
3. Daeron repents and Luthien forgives him.
See that passage above? She forgives him! And he's the only person she lets visit her!
Next up, Luthien learns that Beren is imprisoned in Tol-in-Gaurhoth and she gathers all the various implements she needs to make her big escape.
Then Dairon she called: 'I prithee, friend, climb up and talk to Luthien!' And sitting as her window then, she said: 'My Dairon...
And she asks him to craft her a loom (which she will use to weave her hair into the cloak of darkness she uses to escape, but she doesn't say this). Daeron shows some concern over what her plans are with this and she answers ominously and evasively.
Then Dairon wondered, but he spake no word to Thingol, though his heart feared the dark purpose of her art.
He doesn't tell! He knows she's up to something but this time he doesn't tell. He's learned. (Note that because Lúthien doesn't reveal exactly what she's doing, he doesn't necessarily have the same duty to tell Thingol.)
Then as we know, Luthien escapes and goes missing. The part of the Lay covering the events in Doriath while Luthien and Beren complete their quest weren't written, so all we know of Daeron's next actions come from what's in the Silm:
And it is told that in that time Daeron the minstrel of Thingol strayed from the land, and was seen no more. [...] But seeking for Luthien in despair he wandered upon strange paths, and passing over the mountains he came into the East of Middle-earth, where for many ages he made lament beside dark waters for Luthien, daughter of Thingol, most beautiful of all living things.
Also in the outlines of the unwritten Leithian Cantos:
Sorrow in Doriath at the flight of Luthien. [...] A mighty hunt is made throughout the realm, but many of the folk stayed north and west and south of Doriath beyond the magic of Melian and were lost. Dairon became separated from his comrades and wandered away into the East of the world, where some say he pipes yet seeking Luthien in vain. [...] Thingol is wroth [at Celegorm etc.] - and is moved to think better of Beren, while yet blaming [him] for the woes that followed his coming to Doriath, and most for the loss of Dairon.
Guh! This is just so tragic to me?? He just... disappears! In despair! How is that not sad?? How is it he made two minor bad judgement calls and this is his fate? Look, Maglor fully deserved his self-exile in pain and regret. I just don't see how Daeron did. But he loved Luthien so much that his despair over betraying and losing her was it for him. Many ages of lamenting. And it was a tragedy for Doriath, too, who lost one of the greatest minds the Sindar ever had.
I get so emotional defending this guy. I'm sorry this is so long.
I made a list of short Daeron fic recs.
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runawaymun · 1 year
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🗡️&⚓, if you please!
🗡️ Defend your favorite war criminal (or make them worse - I'm not your mom)
I'm a Maedhros apologist for so many reasons. Chief of which is because I love him. But in all seriousness, while he is a war criminal and he is a mass-murderer, I think out of all the The Sons of Fëanor, he displayed the most restraint and regret.
Like sure the narrative tells us that Maglor deeply regretted his actions explicitly -- but he comes late to that realization after the end of the third kinslaying. Out of all the sons, Maedhros props up my idea that the Oath is something Eldritch and Outside of Them -- a compelling Force (which doesn't absolve them of their actions, but does explain things a lot) the most. He seeks the peaceful, least-violent solutions first, nearly every time.
Maedhros didn't participate in the burning of the ships.
Maedhros repeatedly tries to protect others at risk to himself - taking up the most dangerous/at-conflict lands in Himring, and trying end the conflict with Morgoth with the least bloodshed possible - at risk of his own life by going to treat with Morgoth. Is this his smartest move? No. Is it perhaps his most selfless? IMO yeah. I'm sure he knew he was walking into a trap, but he was offered an opportunity to end things with the least amount of bloodshed and risk to others, so he took it.
Maedhros does a lot of political (and familial) work in healing all the division his father caused over the Silmarils via the Union of Maedhros, but is happy not to be in charge and doesn't seem to need/want recognition. He doesn't have a huge ego. He relinquishes kingship to Fingolfin even though his brothers don't want him to.
The second he felt that his brothers might cause conflicts with others, he moved them out of Hithlum.
Celegorm had to convince Maedhros to attack Doriath. This was after Maedhros attempted to simply ask Dior to hand over the Silmaril - Dior may have inherited the Silmaril from Beren & Luthien, but IMO stolen property, even inherited, is still stolen property. Does this justify the sack of Doriath? No. But I personally do not believe that Dior had any moral right to the Silmaril either. Maedhros was well within his rights to ask for it, and while I understand completely why nobody handed it over, and the Oath may have compelled kinslaying anyway due to the "he who hideth/hoardeth/in hand taketh etc etc" clause -- Maedhros still asked first. and IMO that's a sign of, again -- the fact that he seeks out peaceful solutions first. And it was only after the Oath had awoken and after a great deal of "stirring" from Celegorm that Maedhros agreed to launch an assault.
Maedhros canonically hated what happened to Elured & Elurin. It was done without his knowledge and he also canonically tried to save them.
In a repeat of what happened at Doriath: Maedhros sent messages to Sirion first, and while again -- I don't blame Elwing for withholding the Silmaril because nobody at Sirion had any reason to believe that M&M wouldn't take the Silmaril and kill them anyway (especially after Doriath) -- he still tried. And it was only after they refused to hand it over and the Oath was awoken & in some versions of the tale the Ambarussa urged him that they launched an assault on Sirion.
Maedhros doesn't send anyone else on the fool's errand to try and retrieve the last two Silmarils. He goes alone with Maglor. There is no assault. No battle. He does it in secrecy and kills the least amount of people he possibly can. It really feels to me like the goal was to sate the Oath/save his family from eternal darkness with the least amount of bloodshed possible.
⚓ Pick a Silm ship to go down with. What is compelling about their dynamic?
I'm gonna have to go with Brimbrond, obviously. I love me some Russingon and some Gilrond but I just am clenching Brimbrond in my fists. They're so good. And the tragic end makes it better for me because Elrond's the one Gil-Galad sends to liberate Eregion and he fails. And when you add in the ship background it makes it even worse. Just...the THEMES. THE THEMES.
Elrond and Celebrimbor are both friendship-focused and people-oriented.
If you're a kidnap fam stan then they have a lot of bonding to do over stories of M&M. In my head, Elrond has to deal with a lot of weird/rocky political fallout due to being a "Feanorian fosterling" -- people are mistrustful at first. And he has to deal with his complicated feelings about M&M and like, no actually, he doesn't hate them -- which no one else seems to understand. But Celebrimbor would.
Both have to deal with the crushing weight of family legacy & trying to forge their own path & in a way choose their mother-names over their fathers' legacies. Celebrimbor chooses to go by Telperinquar rather than Curufinwe III. Elrond chooses "Peredhel" over "Earendillion"
Something something echoes of Elrond's attachment to "silver" lovers who meet untimely and horrible ends thanks to Sauron.
there's more here because I could ramble about them for ages but I just really love them together.
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I started reading the fic because I got very curious and
Eldritch Peredhel? What does it imply exactly?
oh please this is a dangerous ask. I could ramble about Eldritch Peredhel for hours.
It's a fanon thing that all of the Elrond/Luthien/Elros/etc. stans pass around and interpret differently, but basically it's the concept of...well...due to the maiar/ainur genetics, Peredhel may be a bit....eldritch, so like weird, perhaps a bit sinister-feeling, perhaps a bit creepy, and usually outside of something which our human brains can conceptualize or wrap around fully. They often set off the uncanny valley alarm. It also usually includes extra superpowers.
For me, I base my Eldritch Peredhel headcannons drawing from what we know of Melian the Maia (the most powerful Singer, able to create the Girdle of Melian/Doriath which turned the woods into a maze which confused unwanted foes and outsiders so they couldn't find their way in or out --more on that later--), Luthien (flowers popping up when she sang or danced, the ability to solo-out Morgoth himself, and Tolkien's descriptions of her in the lay of luthien), and then direct knowledge of what we know about the nature of Maiar and the Ainur.
Re: the Girdle of Melian, I think it’s very significant that the descriptions of the Girdle are extremely similar to the descriptions of the road to Rivendell. I actually don’t think Elrond is using Vilya to hide the Valley. I think that’s intuitive magic from the line of Melian that runs in his blood. Perhaps enhanced by Vilya, but the descriptions that Tolkien gives are so incredibly similar that I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that Elrond is lauded as having an immense connection to Music, and possibly the best current Voice in all of Middle Earth, considering Melian and Luthien’s abilities. 
So... for Elrond, my main headcannons are as follows, HUGE post under the cut:
Most noticeably, his eyes are flecked with actual stars. That’s how he got his name (Vault of Heaven, Star Dome, Firmament, depending on who you ask about the translation). They glow a bit, and will turn into constellations and glow a lot if he’s a bit out of control of himself (high stress, tired, high emotion, has recently used a lot of his power, or...yeah....sex :D ) 
He heals using Songs of Power -- all Elves have access to Songs of Power, but Elrond has an especially strong connection via the line of Melian. Vilya definitely enhances his abilities to an extreme degree, but he can do crazy things that a normal healer would not be able to do (like transcending into the spiritual/astral realm and dragging someone’s soul back from the dead...an immense expense of effort and could possibly KILL him, but he does it anyway). Using his power like this is extremely exhausting and physically damaging. He always has to rest afterward and he does have limits. These limits are pushed out by Vilya, but he still DOES have them. 
Re: songs of power: he has the ability to physically shape reality with his voice. I usually manifest this in the best bedtime stories. Like is he singing the lay of Luthien? Congrats you’ve got flowers blooming on your bedspread. Singing the tale of Nolofinwe dueling Morgoth to the death? You’ve got a live movie of it flashing around in the fire. 
As mentioned above: he disguises the Hidden Valley using intuitive magic from his Ainur genetics. He can do this in even smaller/less noticeable ways (say, he doesn’t want to be bothered in his office today, so suddenly you can’t find it and the halls keep doubling back on themselves and you forget what you came for and eventually wander away). 
During times of extreme emotion, or extreme expense of his powers, he will look less and less Elven/Mannish, and more and more Eldritch. He masks himself on a regular basis so as not to frighten others. So how this manifests in my head...I base it by taking Tolkien’s description of Luthien literally. His eyes literally glow with gray starlight, his hair literally becomes a roiling mass of ink...almost like it’s rending a hole in the fabric of space and time, he grows and lengthens (like how Gandalf does when he confronts Bilbo), and also feels bigger. Like, spiritually bigger. Like okay he’s physically this size but he feels like he swallows sunlight and fills the whole goddamn room. If he is angry, he radiates white-hot starlight from inside of himself to the point that it’s lighting up capillaries and veins, you wouldn’t really recognize him, and he can pretty much just rip you apart on a molecular level. Think like...bloodbending, from ATLA.
Now, re: the above, but when very happy, (like, say, in the throes of an orgasm...), he will look bewitchingly gorgeous. (Re, Thingol becoming bewitched by Melian and staring into her eyes for thousands of years). He can actually kind of almost...bewitch people in the same way in this state, but he doesn’t intend to. He still glows with starlight, his eyes will fleck with constellations and nebulae, and when he orgasms (i think about this way too much) he becomes extremely eldritch, like just a riot of stardust that you can’t really comprehend. And afterwards he just is like, this arcane thing that you can’t make sense of, feels like he could enfold you and swallow you whole but like in a good way. 
Differences between emotions will effect the kind of Eldritch he feels. Like, for instance if he’s happy then you’ll go “wow what a gorgeous night sky in your eyes!”, if he’s trying to intimidate someone, his gaze will give you a sense of vertigo, like suddenly you’re hanging over the vast expanse of space and might fall in. If he is sad, upset, or fading, his eyes will just be like, vacant. The empty void of endless space -- a black hole, almost. Is he trying to figure out what you’re thinking and delve into your innermost being? You’ll start to feel like you’re being watched by a thousand, thousand different eyes from all directions. Is he trying to comfort you? He can physically find your rhythm in your soul and kind of slow it down and anchor it to himself.  
Another note: when he loses control of himself for any reason, he starts to like, be there and not there and flicker between thousands of different forms in a millisecond. It’s hard to explain... he did this a lot as a child and it really freaked Mae and Mags out lmao. The “flickering between a thousand different forms at once” I actually pull from Tolkien’s description of him in the Hobbit and in Fellowship. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t mean it that way but....
"The face of Elrond was ageless, neither old nor young, though in it was written the memory of many things both glad and sorrowful. His hair was dark as the shadows of twilight, and upon it was set a circlet of silver; his eyes were grey as a clear evening, and in them was a light like the light of stars. Venerable he seemed as a king crowned with many winters, and yet hale as a tried warrior in the fulness of his strength. He was the Lord of Rivendell and mighty among both Elves and Men."
Genderqueer and bisexual (almost pan) - Tolkien is very clear that Ainur have no gender and no set sexuality, and can choose at any time. 
Shapeshifts to a small degree, often without really intending to. Canonically, Ainur can change forms at will (we see this most often with Sauron pre losing the Ring). Elrond can do this in a small way, like if a book is too high up for him he can lengthen to reach it rather than grabbing a stepladder, lol. He often does stuff like this without meaning to. And also...his physical proportions will change on a day-to-day basis in small ways, but that’s outside of his control and actually super annoying because it’s hard to find clothes that fit and he feels good in.
I feel like I probably have more of these but those are the main ones! 
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Some more thoughts on the idea that Elrond gets more eldritch as he ages. I'm gonna make another post about this that's more fun Eldritch Peredhel stuff but I felt the need to address some of the implications of this headcanon first.
Like I said, Elrond changes slowly, and most elves don't notice at first. When they do, though, things get interesting.
See, Elrond looks increasingly like Luthien over time. As a child, he had similar facial features, but didn't really resemble her otherwise. But when his hair starts to darken and his eyes turn gray, it becomes clear that he's almost an exact replica of Doriath's princess.
The Sindar find this amazing and wonderful– for a lot of them, their feelings of grief over the loss of Doriath are very connected to the loss of Luthien and Melian (who kept Doriath safe), and "having Luthien back" is great. Of course, this puts Elrond in a very strange position. On one hand, it's nice for him to have elves who encourage him to push the limits of his Ainuric power and tell him stories about his mother's family, who he knows so little about. On the other hand, he can't deny it's a little unsettling sometimes, the way that people can stare right at him and see someone else. He also doesn't like how... possessive some of them seem of him, expecting him to act like his ancestors, even though he's his own person.
It's a little more complicated for the Noldor. Some of them find Elrond's increasingly obvious powers creepy– they're a lot more inclined to be distrustful of the Ainur. But it's worth noting that for all Elrond looks like Luthien, his gray eyes and dark hair also make him look very Noldor, a lot more than he did as a child. And while some of the Noldor are uneasy about Elrond, lots of them see him as one of the finest jewels of the Finwean family– a healer who's dedication to his craft is almost unmatched. They can also be a little bit weird about seeing his ancestors when they look at him, or about expecting him to dress, act, and present himself in a certain way. Especially the old Feanorians, who care deeply about Elrond but do not always express that care in normal ways.
Gil-Galad is a huge help here– he's older than Elrond, but was too young to have any memories of most of the people the other elves compare Elrond to. And he has a very low tolerance for people making his herald uncomfortable. Sometimes he enlists Galadriel and Celeborn (who cared about Elrond for who he was long before he started looking like Luthien) to deal with particularly stubborn elves.
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A survivor of the Second Kinslaying conducts an examination on four  Fëanorian corpses and makes some interesting discoveries. Or, in which part-maia Dior is eldritch and terrifying, Nimloth refuses to go down without a fight, and the conspicuous absence of Celebrimbor is pretty much a character in itself. 
characters: curufin, curufin’s wife, celegorm, caranthir
warnings: lots of description of corpses and wounds, self-harm
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To whom it may concern,
Here follows my report on the bodies of the four invading Fëanorians discovered in the throne room of the palace of Menegroth following the ruin of Doriath, alongside the bodies of the King and Queen, which I have reported on separately. I expect much more information to come to light within the coming days concerning the identification of these four individuals, and I hope that my early findings will be found useful in this endeavour. I have chosen to undertake this task in order that those who remain of the Iathrim may gain a greater understanding of our enemies to help protect the remainder of our people. Once this task is complete, the corpses will be laid in unmarked graves, and I hope then to join my kin at the Mouth of Sirion. 
Long live the line of Elu Thingol!
Istuieth Sadriel, scholar of the court of King Dior. 
Note: Bodies are listed in order of their physical distance from the King, with the closest listed first. 
Male 1
Physical description: This is the body of a male adult Noldo. The body is of a tall Noldo, at 7’3’’, who was in healthy physical condition before death. Male 1 was well developed and well nourished with a heavy muscular build. Male 1 is light skinned with silver hair and brown eyes.
Cause of death: Death certainly occurred as a result of complete severing of the head from the body. Male 1 would have died almost instantaneously. As the other bodies in the throne room, including the King and Queen, were found intact, matching the head to the body was a simple task. The condition of the wounds to the neck suggest that rather than having been severed by a blade, decapitation occurred due to the head having been physically torn from the neck. 
Distinguishing marks: Tattoo around left bicep marks this Elf as a member of the hunting-train of Oromë. This is obscured, seemingly intentionally, by several healed scars that appeared to have been self-inflicted with a blade. Tattoo of a large hound on right forearm. Large healed scar bisecting stomach lengthways consistent with wounds inflicted by a tusked beast, such as a boar. Several healed scars across the torso resembling bites from a large canine animal. 
 Personal effects: large animal tooth braided into hair. Silver and white ribbons braided into hair. Steel alloy hunting knife strapped to right forearm. Steel dagger in left boot. 
Male 2
Physical description: This is the body of a male adult Noldo, of thin build and measuring at an average Noldor height of 7’0’’. Male 2 has light brown skin with black hair and brown eyes. 
Cause of death: a single stab wound severing a major artery near the groin caused Male 2 to suffer catastrophic blood loss resulting in rapid unconsciousness and death. The unusual positioning of the wound suggests that Male 2 was killed standing over King Dior, who stabbed upwards with his sword (likely the sword of Male 3, see below) as he lay dying and hit this artery potentially by pure luck (see my notes on the condition of the body of King Dior). 
Distinguishing marks: A large birth-mark resembling a red wine stain covers most of the left side of the face. Male 2 has a large number of freckles all over the body, especially concentrated on the face and lower arms. Significant scarring from burns on back. 
Personal effects: A silver-alloy Edanic style ring, appearing around one hundred years of age, on the fifth finger of the right hand. Ruby-encrusted steel dagger, likely of Dwarven make, in right boot. 
Female 1
Physical description: This is the body of a tall female adult Noldo, measuring 7’2’’, of lean muscular build. Female 1 has light skin, black hair and black eyes. 
Cause of death: Female 1 has been pierced through the upper torso through a gap in her breastplate with a hunting spear belonging to the Queen. The spear enters Female 1’s chest through the front on the right hand side, becoming lodged within her torso. Judging by the position of the spear and the large volume of blood surrounding this body, including blood from the mouth, it is likely that the spear pierced through Female 1’s right lung, resulting in rapid major exsanguination and difficulty in carrying out respiration that caused her to lose consciousness. Cause of death is judged to be loss of blood resulting from this wound. 
The location of Female 1 is worth noting. The smearing of a large amount of blood across the ground suggests Female 1 was initially wounded close to the Queen towards the back of the throne room where the largest amount of her blood is concentrated, and then proceeded to walk and then to crawl towards the front of the room (inferred due to bloodied footprints followed by handprints matching the size of Female 1’s feet and hands) eventually collapsing across the body of Male 3. 
Distinguishing marks: Stretch marks on the lower stomach and breasts suggest that this woman has previously given birth. Healed burn scars on both forearms. 
Personal effects: A golden ring with a ruby inset on the fourth finger of the right hand identical to that found on Male 3. Steel short sword in belt, which appears to have been newly forged. A pencil drawing on parchment of a young elf boy, found folded in the left breast pocket of the tunic. 
Male 3
Physical description: This is the body of a male adult Noldo, of lean muscular build and slightly shorter than average at 6’9’’. Male 3 has light brown skin, black hair and grey eyes. 
Cause of death: Male 3’s most significant wound is a wound to the throat, cutting the carotid artery and leading to major high pressure blood loss. This was likely the fatal injury to this Elf, as he could not have survived losing such a high volume of blood without almost immediate medical attention. The wound itself is significant, as it resembles something closer to a bite than an injury caused by a blade. Male 3 has several small wounds caused by a blade, likely his own sword as our King was unarmed at the time of the ambush. However, none of these wounds would have been significant enough to cause Male 3’s death, as he was protected by body armour and as such they did not reach any major arteries. Claw marks on his arms and hands. 
Note: several wounds look closer to those inflicted by an animal than an Elf. Must investigate further. 
Distinguishing marks: Male 3’s hands are heavily calloused, suggesting a lot of time spent doing manual labour. This would also account for the body type.  There are also a number of small burn scars on the hands- perhaps an involvement in some type of smithing? Large healed scar on neck. Large healed burn scars on forearms. 
Personal effects:  A golden ring with a ruby inset on the fourth finger of the right hand identical to that found on Female 1. Two steel daggers, apparently newly forged, on belt. A child-size iron ring forged somewhat unprofessionally, worn with a leather band around the neck and tucked underneath Male 3’s armour. 
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Thank you for asking! <3
🔥 Give us your hottest Silm hot take.
Idk if it counts as a hot take, but I take the entire Silm to be an anthology of the legends of the Elven people of Middle Earth. I think that all of the god-like, supernatural phenomena that have esupposedly happened in Valinor and in the First Age really have some more down-to earth explanations. I don't want to spoil some revelations from my fanfic series so I'll stop here ;P
🐉 A lot of figures in the Silm have weird Eldritch powers or possibly biology. Tell us about your headcanons for one.
Continuing from the previous paragraph, I headcanon that the Ainur arent god-like or angelic in nature. Instead they are a very capable species with a different biology. Their bodies are infused with magic, and thus they live forever, can change shapes and are capable of incredible feats of power - much like we witness the known Istari to be; they are powerful but not infallible. They have created an advanced civilization in Aman, and because of this they seemed god-like to the elven tribes who have first reached its shores. But they are actually not supernatural in origin, or at least not any more than elves or men. They are born, and they do procreate, albeit differently from humanoid races. They also do not actually talk to Eru, the cult of Illuvatar is just their dominant religion. (Now I have to physically restrain myself from spoiling more of my headcanon lore XD)
🍽️ You are having a dinner party and you can invite five (5) characters from the Silm. Who do you invite?
I just want a nice dinner with no drama so I’d probably invite the Doriath royal family: Thingol, Melian, Luthien, Beren and Dior. I hope to learn more about the Ainur from Melian, hear a story about Cuivienen from Thingol and of course all the stories from Beren and Luthien’s adventuring days
💀 You have a "Get out of jail 'Doomed by the Narrative' free" card. Who do you give it to?
Beleg the Bowman. He really deserved better.
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most hits: Dear Ecthelion (letters are hard to write in your head), with 336! I don't check my stats very often so that's crazy to me. It's probably because it's the only one I have written for LotR, not just the Silmarilion lol. It was my second? I think? Work I posted to be longer than 2000 words. I wrote it for SecretlyThranduil for TSS21 and I'm still pretty proud of it and how it got me thinking about Glorfindel, Ecthelion, and Erestor. I didn't actually get the chance to use most of the headcanons I came up with...
most kudos: Also Dear Ecthelion lol, for the suspected same reason as above. Behind it is I will go as seems good to me which is the start to an "Aredhel becomes a ghost and casually haunts Gondolin" AU that I have written very little about but continuously gives me brainworms. I am very very proud of the style of this one, I wrote it for Tolkien Gen Week 21 and it has haunted (ha) me ever since.
most comments: Remember, All, Listen, All, easily. Written for TRSB last year, my only (completed) multi-chap, and the 2nd longest. Far and away the fic I am proudest of. Perfectly suited to my interests, just enough of a challenge to test me, self-indulgent worldbuilding details, some light conlanging, and absolutely GORGEOUS prompt art by catadromously. Sticking exclusively to Dior's perspective of his fairy-tale parents was really fun and I think gave a pretty unique flavor, and I've been so, so, so gratified with all the positive feedback saying that they could feel and believe the relationships. If you only read/kudos/comment on one of these, this is the one I recommend.
most bookmarks: Calómë (dusk-light), a prompt fill for jaz-the-bard. Writing this was like polishing away a stone to reveal the heart of how I want to characterize Maeglin. Still working on how/if this fits into my personal Arda, and I know the Gondolin OT3 isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I did a lot in here that I'm very happy with, and it took me so long to work out a variation on both Lomion and Maeglin that I was pleased with, didn't have Implications, was gender neutral, and also translated easily and cleanly into both Sindarin and Quenya, so I'm definitely keeping Calómë.
most words: The Goddess and the Weaver, beating out Remember, All by a cool 600. Ironically, this is my other (unfinished) multi-chap. Two-shot? The second half is quietly languishing in my drafts but it is Not forgotten, and will be written if nothing else than for the sake of 3 (three) scenes that I have in extreme clarity in my head. I have So many Miriel thoughts about her and her relationships to life and Vairë and Finwë and Indis and her son... There is a Story behind this fic, which I don't have the space for here but is detailed in the author's note at the beginning, but even though it has fought me every step of the way I am content to let it rest now as is for a while before battling again. Also I did some funky formatting for Vairë's speech and pronouns which was a lot of work but very very cool imo.
least words: This is a Forest, at 547. I usually post short one-shots because I know that I can get them done even when I have almost no inspiration or energy, but this is short even for me. Written for a class as fanfic with the serial numbers filed off and posted in its natural habitat, this is purely self indulgent Doriath As Fey Eldritch Horror Entity With Beren Dealing purple prose. Is it my best technical work? No, but I had so much fun with it, and I think I got across the vibes I wanted to. Also Quick shout outs to the least word runner-ups: A Cruel Forest (630) which is the same Doriath As Entity premise but with a completely different style and Elured and Elurin as Eldritch Maiarin Entities Twisted, and the prince is dead (661) in which Fingon has an existential crisis about his name and the kingship after his father rides out to face Morgoth. Both also written for Gen Week 21. I had so much time that year.
Tagging: @yellow-faerie @tilions @jaz-the-bard @amethysttribble @starspray @swanmaids @arofili if y'all feel like it! Any other writers who see this and want to self-promo, count this as me tagging you to show off your stuff.
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🐉 A lot of figures in the Silm have weird Eldritch powers or possibly biology. Tell us about your headcanons for one.
Thanks for the ask!
I'll take the occasion to plug my Gil-galad origin fic, in which Gil has weird biology and powers. I won't spoil how.
Besides that, I think Melian's descendants all had some weirdness in them to various degrees (pretty obvious in Luthien's case) and it could be activated if they worked on it or if they were in the proximity of an Ainu power.
It definitely helped Ulmo turn Elwing into a bird successfully. Dior had the potential too, but my headcanon is that he favored his Mannish side and never cultivated it. It can explain what happened to Elured and Elurin. When they were left in the wilderness, they came across some pools of magic that still persisted in Doriath even after Melian's departure. That magic combined with their dormant powers turned them into birds. But the magic dispersed and they were never able to turn back. This reminds me to rec @aipilosse's The Yawning Grave - a brilliant, dark fairy tale that plays with these themes.
I like to think that Elrond and Elros and their children also had some non-elven magic in them. It diminished, of course, farther down the line, especially after magic left Middle-earth, but even ages later, there are some people in Gondor that trace their origin back to Arwen and Aragorn and feel like that sometimes they can understand the language of the birds or stand on the edge of the precipice and think that they can grow wings and fly.
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