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gracecarstairss · 1 year

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In Nothing But Shadows, Ragnor tells James that he’s been waiting for James to come to him for help on his warlock powers, and James says he’s only ever wanted to be a Shadowhunter. I think this should have been explored much more in TLH, where James is struggling to differentiate himself from his warlock side but it’s hard because of his abilities and his warlock mark.

On the other hand, we have Lucie who always says she doesn’t appreciate being overlooked (even though she ends up being overlooked through the whole narrative even though her power is more plot-relevant than James’s). Objectively, Lucie has the more powerful ability between her and James, and she does not have a warlock mark and is unafraid to use her power. She has a willingness to learn about her warlock side. Therefore, I think she definitely should have started warlock training so we could see the way that James and Lucie have opposite views on their powers and whether they are a blessing or curse, something to hide away and tame or something to utilize. It would also be interesting to see because, although this is not discussed in TLH, it is mentioned in the short stories that even at a young age people in Shadowhunter society think that Lucie is never going to be married because of her warlock blood and that any little misstep could forever ruin her reputation. So her warlock training just adds even more risk but I think that seems like something Lucie would do regardless. It could have added much more dimension to Lucie’s character and furthered an antihero arc (that I so desperately wish would have happened).

#I’m never finished complaining about Lucie’s lack of an antihero arc #she’s a morally gray antagonist sry I don’t make the rules #i thought this difference between James and Lucie’s views on their powers would have been so interesting if it was discussed #but of course it wasn’t #James’s power literally changed between the short stories and the start of TLH #honestly lucie and James’s powers high key made no sense they were so random and disjointed so I’m never gonna try to make sense of them #I’m cursed from thinking about all this stupid potential #lucie herondale #the last hours #james herondale #chain of thorns spoilers #chain of thorns

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bisexualbuckleyy · 1 year

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thank you cassie, now any time anyone in any other shadowhunters book uses a fire message i will immediately burst into tears. just what i always wanted

#i was braced for so many other potential character deaths #but never christopher #i sobbed for a solid 20 minutes #i’m not okay #currently experiencing all five stages of grief simultaneously #having a great time #chain of thorns #chain of thorns spoilers #the last hours #the last hours spoilers

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brightwoods · 1 year

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Does anyone else feel like almost all of the conflicts that had to do with the various character dynamics in Chain of Thorns didn’t actually get resolved, they just unexplainably ceased to exist after two books of building them up because CC didn’t feel like writing them anymore and she didn’t know how to resolve it naturally after how she’d built the issues up so much?

Like how none of the characters but Cordelia and Thomas had any clue about the Alastair and Charles situation and then suddenly in CoT it was like who doesn’t know? Of course Matthew knew and didn’t say anything before and then randomly brought it up to Cordelia in Paris while assuming she knew too

Or how Alastair and Thomas went from how things were at the end of CoI with Alastair thinking it could never work because Thomas’s friends hate him to oh look everyone suddenly is friends with Alastair with no grudge with no development of that in this book at all, just an abrupt shift

Especially the Alastair and Matthew dynamic where Matthew hated Alastair and wanted him to have nothing to do with any of their friends and he spent CoI ranting about him to Cordelia. And then suddenly in CoT it’s like of course Matthew is supportive of Thomas and Alastair and oh look Matthew and Alastair are suddenly not just tolerating each other for Thomas’s sake but friends despite barely interacting and no development actually showing and never getting any mention of the other in their own POVs, just having Cordelia be like Alastair stop being dumb, you’re literally friends with him now

Or like everyone other than Christopher and Grace where it was like oh we don’t like her for how she’s treated us and her friends straight to anyway she’s one of us. Like yes Grace was useful and yes Tatiana manipulated her whole life, but none of that was why anyone changed their minds or opinions? It was just suddenly the flip of a switch when it was convenient for CC

Or Anna and Ariadne where it didn’t so much develop as Anna just acted mean to Ariadne on and off throughout the series and at the end of CoI she wanted nothing to do with a relationship and then in CoT she was just suddenly like sure I guess I do. Also, slightly different note, but I did not like that Anna barely interacted with anyone else for the entire book and she was just off in the corner being an irrelevant romantic subplot for almost all of the book except when she showed up to barely even be shown in the background being sad about her brother being dead

(Although Anna still got more of a reaction than everyone else and his death was poorly executed all around in the sense of how did you write this so predictably and poorly that no one even knows when he died and it’s so background and 99% of the characters don’t care at all and we don’t see his parents finding out or much of Thomas’s reaction or anything and it’s just as if he wasn’t a character anymore 2 seconds later which is a different genre of issue with CoT but similar problem in the sense that both issues made the book feel a lot more emotionless to read)

And how the issues of Thomas and Alastair being together as two men and Anna and Ariadne being together as two women in this time and the issues of what would happen if the fact that Charles and Alastair were gay got out to the entire Clave just disappeared and never got addressed at all. We know how the ClVe reacted to Alec Lightwood YEARS later. We know society was homophobic at the time TLH is set and that it seems like shadowhunter society was a lot less open-minded than mundanes a century later

I understand that Charles being blackmailed and making shitty decisions was annoying but it was like suddenly everyone finding out wouldn’t have consequences and all the other queer men characters were like how could you possibly be worried about this :/ as if they haven’t spent the whole series knowing they have to be careful about who they tell. And then suddenly it was just of course it’s totally fine and safe to have everyone find out and why wouldn’t you be fine with that. And it was really written in a way that had other queer characters like oh Charles is such a coward for not being ready to publicly tell a bunch of homophobic people his sexuality and it just wasn’t it??? And super weird after Thomas was terrified of telling even Anna and Matthew for years. And also, I did not care for the fact that when Charles did go risk getting outed to finally do the right thing, we didn’t even get to see it through any character’s perspective or how that important meeting went, we just got one line of dialogue from somebody else saying that it happened with no details at all. And I can’t think of other examples right now but there were quite a few moments like that where we got one line saying that something had happened that was important to the plot and to characters’ development that seemed like it would have been more interesting than some of what we did get to see where it was just totally breezed over and way too easy and totally background to less important stuff

And then there was the whole no one reacting to Ariadne and Anna dancing together publicly thing was like yeah that’s nice I guess but not realistic and it doesn’t go with the way things have been presented up to that point, it also just feels like a situation where CC was like well this would be easier for me so there just won’t be consequences and then they can easily end up happily together

And then there was the whole Thomas and Alastair thinking they couldn’t realistically be together thing and knowing they couldn’t get married or be known to be together by anyone they’re not close to and then at the end it’s still not really addressed how they’re going to be together? Like there was the laziest write off of the family tree being wrong and then we still are just left to assume that eventually they move in together and suddenly it’s not a problem and everyone’s fine with it? And then I also feel like we don’t actually know if everyone found out about Alastair and Charles’ sexualities after the blackmail or if people are going to assume about Thomas and Alastair or if that’ll cause issues or if no one knows outside of who they’ve told and they have to be careful or what. Which like wouldn’t necessarily need to be addressed if it wasn’t for the logistics of being together as two men in that time being part of the obstacle that they were struggling with being in their way and then it felt like it was totally forgotten to even be one at the end by CC

Idk like I’d love to think they just lived in a world where homophobia didn’t exist but it felt like homophobia was a plot point when CC wanted it to be an inconvenience and then suddenly disappeared just to make her writing easier the moment she didn’t want it there anymore instead of actually addressing the plots she raised with it if that makes sense?

And sorry, I really did not mean to go on a rant this long. And maybe everyone else had a very different reading experience than I did and other people don’t agree with some or all of this. I personally am just very confused about how the book was almost 800 pages long and it felt like so much of the development in it was us abruptly being told that development had happened rather than actually getting to see it and how so many of the issues were abruptly solved in an I don’t want to write this issue anymore kind of way rather than anything actually needing to be worked at outside of the Belial situation

Edit: You know what, I mentioned it in my tags but I feel like it’s annoying enough to put in the body of the post and make it even longer. What the fuck was with everyone outing or potentially outing everyone else just so that characters could openly talk about the queer characters and tell them to do what they want them to? Why did Matthew out his brother multiple times? Like yes, the people he said it to coincidentally already knew, but he didn’t know that. And why was Thomas outing Alastair? The straights got to keep their secrets as long as they wanted and fix their problems more naturally. Why did I have to sit through queer characters constantly having their sexualities and romantic histories to everyone else when they clearly had not okayed it? Why were the queer characters doing so much of the outing? Why were people who cared about them and knew what it felt like to be afraid of the wrong person finding out just broadcasting their sexualities to make it easier for CC to breeze past development to have their things get resolved fast? Why did no character have an issue with it at all?

#As a queer person the whole using homophobia against her characters as plot just to pretend homophobia doesn’t exist and call her characters #cowards for worrying about it as soon as she’s decided writing it doesn’t serve her plot agenda anymore really icks me right out #Like yeah I’d love homophobia to not exist but girl what are you doing that’s so gross to go about it that way #ALSO everyone outing or potentially outing everyone else to other characters to make it easier to get the queer characters to do what she #wanted them to was a HORRIBLE vibe. Why is Matthew outing his brother? Why is Thomas outing Alastair? Why is everyone telling everyone else #people’s sexualities as if it’s nothing and everyone has a right to know when that character clearly did not feel that way #And it’s so out of nowhere every time too #Hot take: Charles protecting Alastair’s privacy instead of outing him was more valid than anything any of the other queer characters said #about Charles or Alastair’s sexualities even if I hate Charles and his going along with the blackmail was bullshit #Also now that I’ve written all of this down and 99% of what I wrote about in here has to do with the canon queer characters that’s not #a great look either that she did breeze over some of the stuff with the other characters for sure but she was way more likely to skip depth #and development with the queer characters in CoT #CC said no slow burn gradual changes in this book… there’s only room for abrupt 180s and Cordelia running 🏃‍♀️#Sorry if this has weird typos and other mistakes in it. I typed on my phone and didn’t check for autocorrect nonsense and I’m too lazy to #reread this all rn at my current brainpower level #CoT #Chain of Thorns spoilers #Chain of Thorns #The Last Hours #The Shadowhunter Chronicles #Cassandra Clare #My Posts

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layla-carstairs · 1 year

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James' powers are the biggest wasted potential in the last hours. why didn't he use them more?? like i know in the series they're mostly just used to send him to Belphegor's realm but in the short stories he just turned into a shadow sometimes & had some control over it? like idk I just do not like how his powers were written in tlh.

like he's the first ever half warlock!! he puts the shadow in shadowhunter!! I think it would have been cool to see him use his abilities in battle, like how do you fight what isn't really there yknow? I think he should appear sometimes and leave other characters guessing whether he just walked in silently (something many shadowhunters can do) or if he really just materialised out of thin air. because he's James Herondale!! a living enigma, a possible impossibility!! he becomes his own shadow!! which is especially interesting if you compare it to Tessa's abilities, because she becomes other people, can listen to their thoughts and feel their emotions; but James is only ever himself!! also like “He did not know until later how right he was. It was warlock magic." that's his magic!! give them back to him CC right now and let him use them God damn it!!

#I am. chewing glass #it 1am but I'm plagued with the Thoughts #something I've realised recently is that James is my favourite tsc main character however this has nothing to do with the actual books #it's all about the potential #forget his powers. James as a character is the biggest wasted potential in tlh #CC did you so dirty you didn't deserve that jamie 😔#I have an ask (that I received like a month ago 😬) about him that I should answer at some point #but everything I try to I have too many thoughts 😭😭#anyway. going to bed now someone take my phone away from me #bella talks #james herondale #the last hours #chain of gold #chain of iron #chain of thorns #chain of thorns spoilers #cot spoilers #chot spoilers #this is nonsensical but <3 it's okay

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allthestories · 1 year

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Honestly I’m less of a fairstairs shipper and more just a Matthew Fairchild stan like I can acknowledge him and Cordelia were never really going to work narratively and that her and James have been meant for each other from the beginning but like I just wanted him to end up with someone happily dammit

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cardiganloser · 1 year

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so we know tom's whole 'dear alastair' speech is to do with fire message testing in a scene set in kit's lab with kit present thanks to the four chapters getting released early. we also know that alastair shows up at kit's place unexpectedly with kit and thomas both present thanks to that snippet where kit asked if alastair is seeing charles, i'm thinking alastair gets that fire message and runs to the lab to talk to thomas and they finally sort their shit out

#chain of thorns #thomastair #thomas lightwood #alastair carstairs #christopher lightwood #tlh #the last hours #the last hours theory #chot #tsc #the shadowhunter chronincles #potential spoilers #chain of thorns spoiler

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bemtevis · 1 year

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thomas' backstory is legit compelling and his current character (“uncomfortable in his body bc he's not used to taking up so much space”) makes so much sense, the fact cc never did anything with it is...... very on character for her actually

#like WHERE is him standing up for himself?!?#I'm not just the kind one and I don't need protection and I can make my own decisons and #WHERE WAS THAT #also he's not even that kind.#his friends (matthew and james) may think that giving alastair the benefit of the doubt #is the equivalent to jesus dying on the cross #but it fucking isn't!!! whenever alastair talks about his past or feelings thomas is just like #“🧍‍♂️ ok can we make out now”#IT'S NOT TOM'S FAULT CC CAN'T SEE POTENTIAL RIGHT UNDER HER NOSE #thomas lightwood #chot spoilers #chain of thorns #the last hours #chain of thorns spoilers

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edwardianbookwhore · 1 year

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first raphael santiago and now christopher lightwood

what does cc have against queer platonic couples😔

#I’m mostly joking btw #but raph/lily and chris/grace really had so much potential #i miss them #chot spoilers #chain of thorns spoilers

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amchara · 1 year

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Info from Cassie's Dublin Event

So, I bought an online ticket to Cassie's Dublin chat from earlier this week, and listened to it this evening while doing some chores. It's a really decent one- lots of Chain of Thorns discussions and the moderation was fairly tight. Very enjoyable to listen to! I've typed up a few of the Q&As - and one of the moderator questions from right at the beginning, and then the last few. I may go back and grab a few more but this is all I'm typing up tonight.

Also, she all but confirmed who the novella is going to be about. Spoilers and such below the read more. Questions are answered about potential dark Chain of Thorns alternate ending, Adult POV Shadowhunter books, potential Malcolm and Annabel story, most interesting villain / hero who would make a great villain, Matthew and Tessa happy endings.

Okay, as we probably all knew/predicted: Yes, it's going to be a Matthew novella. Cassie definitely confirmed it's going to be about him. Maybe visiting some of the other characters and popping in. Probably not Jordelia in Constantinople because she wants them to have a sweet honeymoon and nothing bad to happen to them and novella's require conflict. Maybe an online short though- like she's written before.

Okay, on to the questions-

After the pandemic - you changed your mind about certain characters and events in Chain of Thorns. For the better, for the worse?

I mean, I think for the better. I hope. It was very very early on in the pandemic and… I had been thinking- goin back and forth in my mind, between various potential endings. As I always do, when I’m plotting anything. For TLH, I remember thinking at some point, I could not write as bleak an ending, I had- I usually have endings ranging from all sorts of things happening. And I remember a few things that made it- at one point thought of an incredibly bleak ending. But then decide that didn’t make any sense. Because if everyone in TLH were to die, I did not understand how Will and Tessa could go on to have any semblance of a happy life. They both would’ve been traumatised forever. Tessa as we know her in the present would not be the person she is, so it didn’t really make sense. So I booted it. And then, there was still some thoughts I had- I don’t know, the transient tragic effects of time, everything vanishes, everyone dies eventually, and I thought, you know what- we got that in TID and that is not what I want to be thinking about and writing about right now. I want to think about human resilience and love and the good things in life and boy- it was a uniquely bleak experience - not that unique anymore, one day we were working around with many other people or in school and then you’re completely alone, and you don’t know for how long. Doing all the work by yourself, and that’s the experience I had.

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Older characters taking central roles in future books?

Understand why you want to see it but it’s not YA and you can have a little bit of older characters, like I had to fight really hard to get Diana’s viewpoint in TDA because she’s like 25 and that’s too old. A question of genre you’re writing. And if you’re writing YA I can’t see a lot of ways you can have a lot of adult characters doing a lot of stuff because core and point of YA that this is about Young Adults who have the agency and direction and are doing and are responsible for making the choices and if there are adults around, those adults will sit on those kids. And will prevent them from making those choices because its the adult’s job to protect kids. So it is a really hard line to walk. In having those parents in the Last Hours I had to be very careful about the amount we saw of them and the amount that they could affect what was going on. They were away or their will was restrained in some manner or they didn’t know what was going on because if they did, they would step in and take over.

And I think the way to do what you’re asking, is to do adult Shadowhunters books. And there’s no reason not to do that. It’s absolutely possible to write adult shadowhunters books that exist in the realm of adult fantasy. Always thought interesting to follow Clary and Jace or Will and Tessa and do an adult book that talks about them as adults and has them as the forward facing characters and that would be something I would be very interested in doing. I do think it would be adult though. (Which we know means spicy). My publisher is like ehhhh (joking)

Would you ever write a novella about Malcolm and Annabel?

That seems really fun, all the things I like - doomed love and bad weather. I have thought about it. Glad at least one person would like to read it because not everyone as into doomed love and bad weather as I am. We know a lot of details about relationship and their lives and I feel it would be fun to see that. Writing Malcolm in TLH was such strange experience because we know Malcolm from TDA, he’s a bad guy, a murderer, a betrayer, a multiple murderer and generally not good. But in TLH this is Malcolm before all that, he was a good guy and now- I have written good people turned bad, but to write someone as good before bad and not even pretending/faking was really interesting and had me thinking a lot more about his relationship with Annabel and what that obsessive love did in terms of being a very good force in his love and then a bad one. Very interesting.

Which fav villain to write and which of our stereotypical heroes to write would make an excellent villain (Me: It’s Julian- why are we even pretending about this?)

Sebastian was fav because what makes a villain interesting in a lot of ways is how close they are to your heroes, and he was Clary’s brother! And he was a loathsome individual but he was really interesting to write especially because if he hadn’t been given demon blood as a child, might’ve been decent person and we see at end of book that there could’ve been alternate timeline where he wasn’t villain and just Clary’s brother. And that was really interesting, I had the most fun with him.

Audience member: I think Magnus

Oh my god, that’s such a sad thought! Poor Alec, what is he gonna tell the kids- Dad’s gone evil? I can’t even think about that, not that I don’t think he wouldn’t be a good villain, very inventive and powerful so would be terrifying villain. I think, if you know about TWP and read TDA, we’re going to see Jace as a villain. So I have been working on that and he makes an excellent villain because he all these qualities - he’s determined, never gives up, if he wants something, will make sure he gets it, terrifying villain. Super strong and all that- and these qualities making him a good hero also make him a scary villain. Look forward to it.

Is it possible for Matthew to have a happy ending in his life?

Very sweet question. Matthew is based on someone I know and love, my stepfather who was an alcoholic before he met my mother and by the time he met her, had been in AA and never drank again in his life. Remember talking to him about it, he was the sweetest guy and most kind and you could talk to him about anything, and I said, it’s so wonderful you’re no longer an alcoholic. And he said, I am an alcoholic, I’ll always be one, I am just an alcoholic who doesn’t drink. And it really lodged itself in my heart. Because I love him so much as a father and he has this thing in his past, it makes me so sad.

And as I went on to know him (tries not to tear up- died five years ago.) He didn’t think of it that way, he thought of it as being an alcoholic as being just something part of his life, he didn’t drink. He didn’t think of it as bad, shameful, negative, he thought it as something that had made him stronger and kinder. And when I think of that, I think about Matthew. And that is - I want to be clear that, I didn’t want anyone to wave a wand at the end of the book and say Matthew, you’re cured, you’ll never want to drink again. I wanted to go through the process of Matthew realising he has a problem, wants to stop, does stop with the help of his friends. And he may always be an alcoholic who doesn’t drink but like with my stepfather, it makes him kinder (he’s already kind), kinder, sweeter, stronger, better. So I think- you know. I don’t want anyone to look at the fact that he had this illness as a tragedy. I want them to think about it as a thing that makes Matthew who he is, who is a very wonderful person. And he deserves a happy ending, and yeah- absolutely (tearing up) and while it is not always about deserving, sometimes- in this particular case, I think it would be a really nice message to see Matthew get a happy ending. And that’s all I’m going to say.

Audience member: I think it was incredible that you were able to share- I know it’s really sad that he went through that and everything but its incredible you’re able to portray a piece of what he went through, in this character. Because Matthew as a character is going to live on forever in your writing, so you made his memory eternal, which is really cool and I admire that.

(Cassie: That’s so sweet)

Ever think of loophole where Tessa is able to become mortal and live out her human life rather than have her live on forever (Cassie clarifies - you mean, live out her human life with Jem? And then die at the same time.

Um. I think we’ll have to see what happens because we have another couple in that situation, which is Magnus and Alec. So, we have to think (audience groans) - immortal people going around having affairs, making people fall in love with them and then not dying- how selfish. We have to think about how it would be to have only one of those couples live out that ending. So we’re thinking about-

(interviewer- there can only be one?) Like Highlander? There can only be one happy ending? I don’t think of it as a sad ending necessarily because what do you get with anyone you love- you get a lifetime and what your lifetime in these books are, it differs. But I do think its interesting because we have more than one couple in this situation, so I think we have to think about- how does this work and what’s the messaging about only one of them getting this particular killer ending. So.. we’ll have to see how it goes, obviously I can’t say anything. I know. We were all happier five minutes ago.

Tagging: @belle-keys @ibrushmyteeth-donttellanyone @themimsyborogove @lifeofbrybooks because I think you'll all have some vested interest in some of these answers. :)

#chain of thorns #chain of thorns spoilers #the dark artifices #tessa gray #annabel blackthorn #malcolm fade #jace herondale #matthew fairchild #magnus bane #alec lightwood #the mortal instruments #jem carstairs #will herondale

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cosmereplay · 1 year

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This excellent post speculating about the future Rlainarin romance got me thinking about some of the great fics that have been exploring potential possibilities for them! I'll list by rating and put the spicier ones under the cut.

Will it be a slowburn? Check out Hidden Gems by Truthwatcher_Vez, part one of Chasms Between. Rated Teen, 9000 words. Great development and lots of RoW feelings.

Whirlwind trainwreck crab romance, Raboniel/Navani style? Check out Another Secret by aluminumoxynitride. Rated General, 5500 words, RoW and Mistborn spoilers. Fast-paced scholarly adventure!

Bridge four shenanigans? Comedy of Errors by Priscellie has it! Rated Teen, 21,000 words, vaguely RoW, Shakadolin is in the mix. Renarin asks Adolin for relationship help, setting off a chain of misunderstandings for Renarin and Kaladin.

How will their families react? Son of Thorns by Truthwatcher_Vez. Rated Teen, 35,000 words covering the time immediately after Rhythm of War so big spoilers!

Any discussions of marriage before sex or vice versa? I cannot remember any fic that has that lmao

This doesn't even start to cover the plethora of gorgeous fluff fics of them realizing their feelings, learning Rhythms, just having soft moments together.

Bonus: Soft Bridge Four? The Warmth of a Blanket (chapter 2) by Wandering_Channeler. Rated General, <1000 words. Rlain gets Renarin a blanket as they sit around the cookfire.

Bonus: Modern AU Jewish Rlainarin? Their Own Sweet Light by if_one_of_us_falls. Rated General, 1000 words. They celebrate their first Hanukkah together.

Spicy Crab Edition!

Whirlwind trainwreck crab romance, Raboniel/Navani style? Check out Sexy Sociology by cosmere_play. Rated Mature, 9000 words. Modern Roshar AU where Rlain is an exchange student, he and Renarin are in the same class, and they do some informal sociological learning ;)

Bridge four shenanigans? The Final Ten Days by aluminumoxynitride has that and much more! Rated Mature, 35,000 words (currently), big RoW spoilers. Deep examination of the relationship and its meaning for Renarin and Rlain on top of major plot.

Rlain, the Most Eligible Bachelor in Narak? How about The Rhythm of Tension by gemheart. Rated Mature, 3000 words. Rlain, Thude, and Bila have some business when Rlain and Renarin visit Narak.

Marriage of political convenience? Read two tunes are playing by am_fae. Rated Mature, 5000 words in which Renarin is chosen for a marriage that will end the War of Reckoning! WoR era.

Bonus: Practicing Regrowth for sexy purposes? Time Well Spent by gemheart, Rated Explicit, 2300 words. RoW.

Bonus: Adolin dies and Shallan and Renarin have to marry, despite both of them having other relationships? Making it Work by FleetOfAdmiralLynx. Rated Mature, 55,000 words, RoW. Amazing exploration of grief and hope, and yes Rlain is a big part of the story!

Thanks for inviting me to infodump a selection of my favourite Rlainarin fics @theworldtravellingteenager! hee hee

#There are so many other good ones I couldn't fit in here #I have so many favourites #it's not even fanfic friday I'm just feeling so inspired by laminatednewspaper's post #rlainarin #renarin x rlain #renarin kholin #rlain first rhythms #rlain #rlain stormlight #stormlight fanfic

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lesbocrocker · 1 year

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#chot spoilers #tsc #the shadowhunter chronicles #the last hours #tlh #chot #chain of thorns #chain of thorns potential spoilers

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make-me-ur-aphrodite · 1 year

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guess who finally finished chain of thorns over a week later 🤩 my completely unorganized thoughts for the general public anyways chain of thorns spoilers ahead bros

- ghostwriter is the relationship i love them more than i love my life it's just like the cute little moments between them like when lucie was nervous before her parabatai ceremony with cordelia and he was holding her and comforting her i melted

- i honestly think james and matthews relationship was dealt with really well we know nobody is ever gonna top jem and will but i think they were written really well and them in edom together was so emotional to me

- tell me why i was so heartbroken when christopher died but i only cried when grace sent that fire message and wrote that it was created by kit 🥺lol i'll tell you why it's because we got zero real reaction about it

i wanted anna's pov as her baby brother died in her arms

i wanted cecily and gabriel seeing their sons body taken into idris and realizing what happened

where was sophie and gideon who also lost a child comforting them?!?!?

honestly i think that since christopher did die there was a lot of potential there

-i hated the love triangle and felt awful for matthew the entire time cause like didn't we all know jordelia was endgame i meannnn

literally love jordelia tho and i we'll never not think of james saying "sod that" and shooting the door open like sir 🫣also them traveling is something that is so personal to me i am in love with the idea of james and cordelia going all around the world and then taking their kids with them 😍

-after this book i feel like grace is a lost kitten and i want literally nothing more than to adopt her also did anyone else catch at the end when they said that grace doesn't talk much idk but i would like to give her a home

-the thomastair content 🤩🤩🤩 i love them so much i love that they're moving in together i love alastair with his baby brother i love eugenia saying she's gonna renounce her family if they don't accept thomas when he came out. every scene with them was a masterpiece

also alastair's personality like my boy is sassy and sarcastic and i would die for him

-i think the anna and ari's storylines progressed really well and they've come so far since we've first met them 🥺

-anyways my #1 ship matthew x sobriety came true and i could not be more thrilled

the moral of my rant here was that i really loved it and i think it's just cause im so in love with each of the characters but i loved almost every second of this book and didn't want it to end my only complaint would be how christopher's death and other potentially emotional topics (will and tessa crying when they found out the kids were stuck in london) were kind of just glossed over but overall i was in love with them all and i don't think i can accurately describe my feelings so that was my jumbled mess of thoughts

also can we talk about the fairchild twins please

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sjfwrites · 1 year

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Chain of thorns spoilers!!! Help I’m so confused with potential family tree.

Does this mean Tessa is Julian Blackthorn and his siblings great great great grandmother— because Tessa never really acts that way like she does with the Herondales

And would this make Kit and Ty distant relatives?

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amaryllisblackthorn · 1 year

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MAJOR chain of thorns spoilers !!!

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i also cannot help but feel as though chain of gold did a better job at handling christopher's potential death when he was poisoned than chain of thorns did with christopher's actual death

like, yeah christopher died right when everyone didn't have time to afford to like properly mourn or grieve and they had to take action but like. still.

and i think part of it, for me at least, is that while we get bits of like, thomas grieving it's from an outside perspective and never iirc in his own point of view??? like, there's when he first finds out of course, and then you get i think cordelia remarking in her pov that thomas lost both his sister and basically brother in a year, and that he was the last of the merry thieves currently and he must be feeling so lonely etc but from what i recall we never get thomas' feelings and thoughts regarding these things when we're in his pov???? and yeah there are 'more important things' to focus on re: the watchers and stuff but it makes christopher's death feel empty and as a result unnecessary. it feels like the same story beats could have been accomplished by christopher being severely poisoned and like comatosed, while the adults are all unaccessible in Idris which worsen his odds or something. he's still taken out of commission and the stakes are still heightened.

maybe i would have taken his death better if he was immediately still or something after he's hit instead of i think lucie hearing him say afterwards,that he was fine, because iirc the actual moment he was hit came off as like significant and i thought he died but then it was like 'oh his shoulder's just hurt! he's just injured! dw we'll just be out of the way bc of his injury' and then it's like 'oh actually he's dead now'. i think that 'false hope' just made his sudden death feel kind of cheap to me, for lack of a better word, and contributed to his death feeling unnecessary. maybe his death would have felt at least a little bit 'better' to me if it wasn't for that, bc otherwise it came off less of a 'this is war and people die' situation and more of a 'he is dead simply for shock value' situation. like i get, in-universe, christopher saying he’s fine when he’s not but the way it played out, as a reader, was unsatisfying to me.

like, the doylist reason for his death is that one of the merry thieves had to die for ""realism"" sake but like. it shouldnt come off as that obviously being the reason when you're reading, you know? and at the very least it should be given the weight and respect it deserves ?? as it is it feels like christopher was killed off for shock value and bc 'well one of them has to die and christopher is the easiest one to get rid of' and everyone's like 'oh no! well we can't dwell on that rn' and then they just never dwell on it, and it just makes his death feel empty and unnecessary and it has me feeling sour ngl

and maybe im an unrealistic idealist who feels like none of the main kids had to die! but if they did i’d imagine their death having more weight and presence in the story after it’s happened !

like, i feel if it was matthew who died, there'd've been more dedicated to it. granted, he's james' parabatai . but still. i feel like if even thomas had died, there still would've been more.

thomas and christopher had such a close bond that we got to see in the other two books and the lack of thomas' feelings from his own perspective just feels wrong. i dont care if theyre shadowhunters and needed to focus on battle and the bigger picture. and i know that thomas especially tries to cope with grief by action. and maybe it's supposed to signify everyone's maturity in this book with their reactions vs back in chain of gold. but it still comes off as significantly unsatisfying. imo.

outside of the scene where thomas finds christopher is dead, and outside the brief moments of anna coming off as reckless/wanting to fight the watchers in anger bc of kit, a lot of the christopher grief came off sort of like ‘telling not showing’ if that makes sense???

not to mention that i like personally really dislike when a character survives something where death was like a legit real possibility to then just die later on, especially when it comes off as just killing someone for shock value and/or to signify that ““things are serious now””. you can claim that their surviving is 'false security' and spin it as subversion or whatever but. i just dont like it. i never like it, whether it's in book series or tv shows, except i guess cases where it's just done well and makes sense and is thematically satisfying. so like, christopher dying after being poisoned and in danger of dying back in chain of gold and surviving also has me feel dissatisfied. especially because his death came off as “well someone had to die” and the aftermath of it was so neglected and it just felt so unnecessary and im just really sour about it.

a lot of this is ramble-y and all over the place and i dont even know if i got out all that i wanted to in regards to my feelings and thoughts about the topic but. yeah.

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on having the herondales front and centre really hurt tlh narratively? i think you've said this before but there absolutely should have been more focus on gideon + gabriel's families. maybe in chog we could have focused on haywood's death, they're separated from each other in london/idris, tom's resentment towards his label of 'the kind one', etc. 1/?

I love unhinged ramblings about the Lightwood, as I've said before they're my favourite tsc family <3 (and as I'm just now realising, the only one of the big 5 to never be a main character...... screaming crying etc etc) (ignoring the eldest curses btw because it's not a main series)

Honest, I think The Last Hours as a series would have really benefited by not having main character(s) at all. It would have worked quite well as a proper ensemble series, where everything is spilt up fairly evenly. Instead of James and Cordelia taking up large sections of the book doing??? while other characters get consistently shoved to the background. The only thing would be that the TLH gang is really big 😭 idk who to you would make a part of the core cast.

by giving character like Thomas for example a central role from the beginning, I think it would be really easy to implement a lot of the things you mentioned. Like fleshing out Barbara, Thomas' arc, seeing more of their family etc.

Kit as a character is a little all over the place. He doesn't really have a coherent character arc, and mostly just exists as a plot device. It kinda bothers me that he's just the sciencist™ which mean he really good at all science. Like what specifically interests him?? couldn't tell you. I think for COG, I would have really liked to see him doubt his abilities to save everyone? like he's never dealt with anything like this before, it's out of his comfort zone, Henry's stuck in another country so he's on his own; that a lot of pressure! it would also make the scene where Thomas convinces Alastair to let him in to finish the antidote even more meaningful; that he fully believes that Kit can cure everyone even when he didn't believe it himself. (also Kit being involved the necromancy is not something I've considered 👀👀 but that could have been so interesting & I think it would've built a better foundation for his relationship with Grace then what we got. like if they became friends before she got sent to silent city. also incredibly messy <3)

also the fact none of the tid characters got poisoned in COG is a crime. like it's not like they did anything anyway, and most of them were shuffled off out of the country. Why not nearly kill one? up the stakes? my vote is for Cecily, just because it would be very on brand for Tatiana to try and kill her brother's wife who also happens to be Will Herondale's sister. Everyone suffers!! also in Kit's flash fiction the first time he kinda questions/wants to use something other than weapons to fight demons is when his mom gets injured and I love parallels <3 also between Ari, her mom, and later Kit Anna would be having the worst time of her life. that could have interesting ramifications 👀

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