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bywandandsword · 6 months

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So I watched Good Omens 2 for the first time the other day (and I'm being very brave and normal about that ending, thank you), and my brain went "Well all of the angel's names end in -'el', which makes sense cause that means 'God', but Lucifer and Satan don't fit into that naming convention, so where did those names come from?"

And turns out, the answer is fascinating.

The name Lucifer is from Roman paganism and was originally the name of the planet Venus and son of the goddess Aurora (goddess of the dawn). He was also called Phosphoros or Heosphoros, and he heralded of the dawn (it's cute that he's job was to announce that is mom was there)

The original mention of "Lucifer" in the Bible was actually a reference to a fallen King of Babylon, but the translation of the word that means "morning star" to Lucifer has since been abandoned by scholars. This is why historical context of Bible verses matters!

The motif of a being striving for prominence in heaven and then being cast down to the underworld originates in the motions of the planet Venus, also known as the morning star. This motif in myth "The fall from heaven motif is also in Canaanite mythology with Attar trying to get the throne of Ba'al and failing

And then, because I know Satan as a figure isn't really a thing in Judaism, I wondered how he got into Christianity

the Hebrew word "satan" just means "accuser" or "adversary" and in the Old Testament is applied to anyone as an antagonist in the narrative, angels and humans alike

In between the writing of the Old and New Testaments, there was a lot of empire building by Persia and Rome, which led to a lot of contact between religions and idea sharing. One of the ideas that was popular at the time was the separation of Good and Evil into rival forces from Zoroastrianism. While good and evil figures exist in all mythologies, this influence seemed to basis for this binary world view in Christianity

In the New Testament, a lot more references to a satan were added, normally referring to any force that opposed early Christianity, and over time they were conflated and attributed to one being/the Evil Side. The way people talked about it went from someone acting as a satan to people acting as agents of Satan

Then! In looking into all this, I found a mosaic that's thought to be the earliest known depiction of Satan from the 6th century depicting the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats and it's very surprising

(image: mosaic depicting three haloed figures on a rocky green field, Jesus in purple is seated the center, a winged angel in red to Jesus' right and a winged angel in blue to Jesus' left. Both angels have their right hands raised with the palm to the viewer. Jesus is gesturing to the three sheep that stand in front of the angel in red. In front of the angel in blue are three goats)

So the angel in blue is supposed to represent Satan, and in this parable Jesus is explaining Judgment, using sheep to represent those going to Heaven and goats to represent those going to Hell. And this got me thinking about how Satan has been depicted and asking "is this why Satan is so strongly associated with goats?" and the answer is yes, but also no

Because Satan is associated with Evil, and Evil is conceived as anything that is not of God or aligns the the Church's teachings, most pagan deities at some point got associated with Evil or conflated with Satan at some point. Because Rome was the origin point for the spread of Christianity, the two main deities that Satan was conflated with were Hades, which is where the pitchfork imagery and Hell originated, and Pan, which is where Satan being horned and hoofed came from

Hell became conflated with Hades (the place) and because it was Evil, became a place of torment/punishment. This conflation also went well with the previously mentioned "fall from Heaven" motifs which all together originated Satan's mythology

Pan also became associated with Satan for a couple of reasons. One reason was because Pan as a god is associated with pastoralism and roads (which is very interesting considering the Devil's associated with road, especially crossroads), but more importantly, Pan is associated with wild spaces, places outside the realm of Society or "Civilized"

If you know anything about ancient Rome, you know there's nothing that makes ancient Romans nervous more than "uncivilized" things (read: places not under Roman control). Therefore it makes sense that Pan would get conflated with Evil

Pan is also associated heavily with sexuality and his fauns are notoriously sex pests in the mythology. With Rome's newfound obsession with chastity and demonization of anything sexual, it also isn't a surprise that Satan became an overtly sexual being

However, through the middle ages, while Satan was depicted as horned and monstrous (hilariously often with a second face in place of his junk), he wasn't super associated with goats until relatively recently

There is the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, and there is the scapegoat tradition that takes place at Yom Kippur, where a goat was given all the sins of the community and then released into the wild, but there was also a goat that was dedicated to God and was sacrificed for the holiday feast, so the strong associated with goats and Evil doesn't really exist in the Bible

There's some association with goats and evil in continental European depictions of witches, but that seems to be just cause they're more ornery than sheep, and their association with shepherdesses, like how witches were associated flying brooms because a lot of breweries were run by women and the symbol of the trade was brooms. Basically, witches and evil were associated with things that women of any societal independence had

However, where the goat symbolism really took off for a couple reasons. The first being Goya's paintings of witch's sabbats in the last 18th century that depict the Devil as a goat. This might be reference to the motif that was popular in Spain at the time of an upright quadruped performing routine human activities as a satire of men's follies. Goya specifically used goats, but other depictions of the Devil at the time also used bulls or any other generic horned figure

The second and BIGGEST reason was the image of Baphomet drawn in 1856 by Éliphas Lévi (Remember, this was the time when interest in the occult was high and things like the Spiritualism movement really started kicking off)

This depiction of Baphomet is really interesting in and of itself because Lévi basically cobbled together a bunch of different things from Victorian occultism

Baphomet is meant to be "symbolization of the equilibrium of opposites...half-human and half-animal, male and female, good and evil, etc. Lévi's intention was to symbolize his concept of balance, with Baphomet representing the goal of perfect social order"

The goat part specifically references the "Goat of Mendes" mentioned by Herodotus, who's favorite thing was being xenophobic as fuck. Herodotus says that the Goat of Medes was worshipped in Mendes (the greek name for the Egyptian city Djedet). He goes on to say some pretty slanderous things about the people there but the deity he's referring to seems to be Banebdjedet

Banebdjedet is an Egyptian ram-headed god (are we really going to take the word of Herodotus seriously when the fucker can't even tell goats and rams apart????) who's associated with creation, pottery, and fertility of the Nile floods

Lévi, and other Victorians, took Herodotus at face value and ran with it in his depiction of Baphomet

Baphomet as a figure on the other hand comes from Crusader days, where allegedly the Templars worshipped Baphomet as a deity

The name Baphomet originates from an account of the siege of Antioch; "As the next day dawned, they [i.e. the inhabitants of Antioch] called loudly upon Baphometh; and we prayed silently in our hearts to God, then we attacked and forced all of them outside the city walls". However, the 'Baphometh' the people of Antioch were calling come from the name 'Bafomet', which French troubadours were using to refer to the prophet Muhammad

The idea that the Templars were worshipping Baphomet come from the fact that, because they lived in a predominately Muslim society, some Templars converted to Islam or adopted Muslim practices in their own worship, and they were vilified as a result. So, like with Herodotus, it just originates with the demonization of other people

Getting back to Satan, Lévi's depiction of Baphomet as the "Sabbatic Goat" really became popular among occultists, being used to represent evil in several practices

The imagery got picked up by the King of Fuckwads and Douche-canoes, Aleister Crowley, who made it a central part of his tradition. Because Aleister Crowley unfortunately had such a strong influence on ceremonial magic traditions of the 20th century, the imagery was merged with other horned/antlered deity imagry and was used to represent the Horned God in British Ceremonial Witchcraft and all the derivatives of it (ie; Wicca, Traditional English Witchcraft, ect.)

A few theistic satanist groups also branched out of these ceremonial magic traditions and used Baphomet. Because of the nature of many of these groups (being loud, dickish, and as inflammatory as possible). Combined with the Satanic Panic of the '80's pushed Baphomet as the representation of Satanism to the broader public, rather than just in the social spheres of occult nerds

This of course influenced later branches of Satanism, like the non-theistic Satanic Temple, and popculture depictions of the devil, such as Black Phillip in Robert Eggers' The VVitch

It's all very fascinating. It's so interesting to see how Satan as a figure came about and evolved over the centuries and how that evolution is so rooted in their historical contexts and the values of the people in those times, and how they view the Other. I didn't even get to how the Protestant Revolution or Paradise Lost or Appalachian/Southern folklore changed the depiction of the Devil in the popular consciousness, but it's all super fascinating

#Sword speaks #this turned out to be way longer than I thought sorry #satan #lucifer #the devil #devil #history #baphomet

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princelune · 1 year

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no, she's right, i've been busy. and now? i think i'm done.

[ID: three edited images of baphomet from the wicked + the divine. he is always seen from the shoulders up and they all have a plain background, enhanced color, and a noise filter. in the first, he has chin-length black hair and a dark t-shirt. he is frowning and looking towards the right side of the image. the background is white. in the second, he has shorter unkempt black hair, orange-tinted sunglasses, a black leather jacket, and a silver chain necklace. he is holding his hand up, with fire licking from his fingertips, and he is snarling. the background is black. in the third, he has slicked back hair, black makeup around his red eyes, a black button-down, and a silver right on his finger. he is smiling slightly and looking to the right. the background is white. end ID

#i just wanted like. his three looks #wicdivedit #wicdiv #baphomet wicdiv #cameron wicdiv #the wicked + the divine #baphomet the wicked + the divine #speaks #rick edits #ylfva don't look

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soulsxng · 8 months

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Because I saw it kind of going around, muses that would stalk their s/o:

Eluvias -This used to have a very big element of Danger to it, since depending on what he saw, it could lead to a whole possessive break in which Luvi could get very violent, very fast. I...don't actually know if he'd get to that point these days, but I know he's the type to stalk an s/o to get more information about them, follow them around, "borrow" things from them, etc. He wants to know everything there is to know, on top of just wanting to be close to them, wanting to make sure they're safe, wanting to make sure they're not getting into trouble--

Pereux -Mostly just likes watching, and likes when her partner does the same with her. Aside from that, she's also the type to have things set in place that allow her to know exactly where her partner is at all times-- and again, vice versa. In her mind, these are behaviors that show her desire for another person, and their desire for her, in turn. Also, this is kind of normal where she's from (The Otherworlds), so...*shrugs*

Baphomet -With Baet, he's prone to stalking just about anyone/thing that he finds especially interesting. With an s/o, he doesn't care how long it takes, he'll take his time gathering information about all sorts of things. It's kind of like a game to him, unraveling secrets bit by bit and getting the immediate reward of learning more about the person he loves. He does respect boundaries pretty well though (as opposed to when he was younger), so if there are things his partner doesn't want him poking around in, he'll respect it. Also lots of following them around/showing up places that they're at.

Ezra -His is more...situational, I feel. It would largely depend on who he's with, and would manifest mostly as check ins or periodically showing up somewhere that his s/o is to surprise them. A big reason why is the whole addictive personality thing-- it's not that he doesn't trust them, or anything like that, but more that he just feels like he needs to see them. It feels good to see/hear/be around them.

Niesal -In the event they actually ended up in a relationship, there would be a lot of monitoring of their partner being done pretty constantly. And/or a lot of anxious checking in. They'll poke around in their partners secrets and such too, though not too bad. Most of this is, for them, caused by relationships in general are terrifying to them, and knowing more about their partner/what they're doing/where they are is comforting to them. Like Ezra, this might be fairly situational, or depends heavily on who they're with.

#[Eluvias -headcanons-]#[Pereux -headcanons-]#[Baphomet -headcanons-]#[Niesal -headcanons-]#[Ezra -headcanons-]#*points at Baet* there's a verse out there in which he slowly and methodically over the period of years #gathered information and such about someone that he took an interest in #and then showed up on their front step like 'hi do you remember me because I remember you! :D' and he saw absolutely nothing wrong with tha #Anyway!#I went back and forth with putting Ezra and Nesa on here since like it says #they're more situational #but I felt like it would be common enough that I might as well #I also kind of thought about putting Enoch on here but like...honestly it's more that he gathers information on and keeps an eye on everyon #EXCEPT his s/o. who could really be considered his one 'blind spot' so to speak

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kits-ships · 5 months

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i like to imagine demon!sera/baphomet forgetting to change forms before they visit a group of humans that worship them and, instead of seeing a giant goat creature with a pentagram on their forehead, some 5'1 enby with a round face and anxiety walks in.

its like expecting to see godzilla and then this chick shows up

#baphomet and their worshippers were the first iteration of an e-girl and their orbiters #i feel like im speaking a different language #sera; innocence died screaming #ramblerambleramble

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babylonbirdmeat · 2 years

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Horns aren't perfect but I should know I can trust someone with the Username Brightgoat to have a good picrew for making a real Baphomety kinda guy

#Rutena speaks #Sona: Baphomet #I'll get it a real name soon I prommy #Like Baphomet is a real name but we need a human disguise #Just as Yuriko isn't just calling herself Lilith all day

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sigma-el · 2 years

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This. Is really a project throwing me into something I have litterally no idea about!

That’s my future character for a RPG session! Ive never done this before! Im currently working on it’s appearence but I already chose it’s role; this thing is the cutest and loveliest being but praises Baphomet and brings chaos to mortals through the u n g o v e r n a b l e goaty-nature of it. It has a deep link with a druid that will be played by a friend, and one day if I grow to really enjoy RPG (i’m used to roleplay online, real life scares me a little) maybe we’ll end up making a cosplay of it!

I’m both excited and confused about the idea but who wouldnt be as sweet and unpredictible as a goat? Plus: those goat-men are called Caprins and know a hella lot of things about dark sorcery. Their fur, skin, blood, horns, hooves and bones are part of rituals sorcerers practice to summon entities, and Caprins do give themselves to their lord with pleasure! Explaining why they are so little of them, while their existence is crucial since they do know how to reverse the summonings.

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agnesandhilda · 2 years

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when I learn how to sew french knots it is OVER for you people

#bolo speaks #I'm trying to sew a baphomet figure onto one of my skirts and I'm fighting for my life trying to add french knots 😭

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crimsonmoonscrypt · 9 months

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Hey wouldn't it be so cool if women and girls actually got treatment

IDK.im just thinking of when I could have had a serious medical situation with my asthma in gym and idk maybe it could've led me being in the ER or my death bed I don't fucking know, thankfully I got better because I had my inhaler!!!

But I told my gym teacher that "hey lol I'm having a lot of trouble breathing and I feel horrible" and he just said "okay just walk for now" and I'm like?? I can't fucking walk when my breathing isn't working y'know the thing that makes the blood and heart work

When I did have a huge asthma attack, one of the things is that I couldn't barely walk, it was hard for me to do simple functions like eat and drink because my body literally refused it and I got better because I went to the ER and got a shot that helped me along with a mask breath thingy (i forgot what theyre called 💔)

So.im just tired of men not like, actually giving a shit, I'm so tired of people telling me that I'm lazy or I'm complaining too much, I am disabled and i wish asthma wasn't the butt of the joke a lot of the times because it leads people to think we are dramatic or not fun

#baphomet speaks #i literally had an asthma attack because of a four wheeler ride that was really fast #it was fun but i indeed had an asthma attack at my friends birthday party #(not mad at the driver or my friend btw)#(i did ask to go on a wild ride and i did not know i could get an asthma attack from that but i understand now i think)#but anyways at least my friend let me chill and told me that it was okay bc i was literally having a medical emergency #i had my inhaler too and i got better #i could go on about how that party went but i wont LOL thats unrelated #also i think gym shouldnt be a requirement #i shouldn't have had to suffer 18 weeks of harming myself because their standards of health is different than mine #not every body is the same not every work out helps and not everybody can get skinny from running because it might injure them #i want to work out the way i feel best to #swimming has helped me a shit ton with being healthy this summer instead of just sitting around for 3 months #im gonna stop rambling here #its 1 AM and im so eepy

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kawaiisatanist · 2 years

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My custom baphomet plush, made from a regular goat plush. I'd like to go back and replace the chest someday, but I'm happy with how the plush turned out as a whole.

#bug speaks #theistic satanism #satanism #Baphomet #baby baphomet

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wildcatofgreen · 1 year

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((YEAH WELL

((THANK YOU BUNCHES THE THINGS WE DO ARE COOL))

#ooc posts #catmun speaks #i smile really hard #interacting with baphomet is SO MUCH FUN

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fleshrack · 2 years

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I believe that death wears a white suit and tie, and one day I’ll meet him in a red dress and we’ll dance under a moonlit sky. One day when I’m finally ready and willing to die.

#satanism #satan #satanic #satanist #hail satan #satanas #666 satan #baphomet #fleshrack #aesthetic #fleshrack speaks #fleshypoems #my post

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nebula-nights-reblogs · 2 years

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i literally miss baphomet :^(

#he speaks!#this is abt the actual demon not like. a character thats based off of the demon. idk anything abt them #but i miss seeing that demon with their tots out dick out hoofs out literally the pinnacle of chilling and i need that energy #>image searches baphomet so i can sigh longingly at the sight of them

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babylonbirdmeat · 2 years

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Found my old description of how I looked as A Baphomet which I think will be the demon form for my S/I

#I get to be special I think that should be allowed #rutena speaks #Sona: Baphomet

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daenystheedreamer · 5 months

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Valyrian Pantheon Headcanons

We know the names of 5 of the Valyrian gods and that's it. We don't know anything about the practices or even what those gods were patrons of. Here is my headcanon reconstruction of the pantheon ^_^

I think the Fourteen Flames (the volcanoes) are named for fourteen gods who constitute the main pantheon, similar to the 12 Greek Olympians or the 12 Roman Dei Consentes. There are many minor gods, usually personifications of concepts like seasons/emotions.

I imagine them like Egyptian gods, who are personified sometimes as humans, sometimes as animals, sometimes as animal-headed humanoids. I imagine the main fourteen as dragons, though idk how silly that would look lol.

I think they were also androgynous gods. Why? That's fun. That's so fun. Dragons are theorised to be hermaphroditic/intersex who can change their sex at will, but also are referred to as she-dragons if they are confirmed to lay clutches of eggs. So some of these gods are gods, and some are goddesses, despite being a-gender

Canonical Gods

BALERION: I believe Balerion's name is at least a little inspired by Ba'al, an ancient Semitic god who was very important to the religions of the region (Canaan, Babylon, etc) and features as a false god in the Hebrew bible. I think he's the King of the gods, like Zeus. God of war or fire or conquest or all of the above. Many ancient gods shifted their patronage and powers.

VHAGAR: Consort of Balerion, similar to Hera. Goddess of war/wisdom, similar to Athena. I think this fits a person like Visenya.

MERAXES: Perhaps a concubine of Balerion? Like how Zeus had thousands of lovers. Metis, Leto, Demeter, etcetera. Goddess of love, because Rhaenys seems like a woman who enjoyed love and life. Perhaps also a goddess of marriage?

SYRAX: It's gotta be someone Rhaenyra would think is cool. Perhaps a goddess of the sun/moon? Another war goddess? A queen? Actually, perhaps Syrax is the Hera of the pantheon, while Vhagar is not necessarily virginal like Athena but 'unmarried' so to speak. Goddess of beauty/wealth would also fit Rhaenyra. Goddess of the sun or moon would be fun in opposition to Sunfyre.

BOASH: called 'The Blind God' Mentioned as the god the Lorathi worship, whose religious followers (dissidents of the Valyrian Freehold) founded the city of Lorath. The name doesn't follow the typical Valyrian naming traditions, perhaps he was originally Boax/Boaxes? Would be fun. He's a very esoteric god connected to 'higher truths', the priests are eunuchs and the followers are vegetarian teetotalers and a main tenant is that everyone is equal. They also wear hair shirts which is an old Christian practice. I think he's a version of a Valyrian death god

the BLACK GOAT: Whose followers founded Qohor. I think he's a minor god, perhaps of magic or agriculture even, agricultural deities tend to be very important to common folk. However the goat imagery evokes Satan and Baphomet, so I think a villainous or death deity would be fun.

Non-canonical gods

A lot of the Targ dragons are given names with similar naming style to the canonical god dragons.

VERMITHOR & VERMAX: The naming conventions of Vermax and Vermithor intrigue me... I think one is the name of the God and one is a theophoric name in reference to the god. Perhaps a god of justice, law, order, etc, since they were the dragons of Jaehaerys and Jacaerys and I can see them picking that kind of God.

ARRAX: Lucerys names his dragon this, so I think a coming-of-age god or god of youths would be fun since he, yknow, got eated at 14.

CARAXES: This is Daemon's dragon so I'm saying Caraxes is the Dionysus/Hermes trickster god. Daemon picking the bacchanalian drunk sex god for his dragon is real to me.

MELEYS: Rhaenys TQWNW's dragon. Rhaenys gives off SUCH demeter vibes idk so agricultural god would be fun but idk i don't think she'd pick something like that. Perhaps its based off of Meraxes since Rhaenys is her namesake. Perhaps an oceanic or weather-based god.

MORGHUL: Morghul is simply the word for death in High Valyrian e.g. 'Valar Morghulis', but I like it as a euphemistic name for a God of death. Like his name is so tabboo that you just refer to him as death, or he's just named death in relation to afterlife, like how Hades refers to both the god and the underworld. I think perhaps Boash and the Black Goat are actually interpretations/aspects of the same deity, perhaps a death - morghul - god.

SHRYKOS: Sick name sorry just had to say that. He's Jaehaerys (son of Helaegon)'s dragon. got no clue what he could be a god of cos jaehaerys is a plot device character. I think he's just a cool Valyrian word, like Morghul, since Jaehaerys and Jaehaera are twins. Be fun if they picked life/death dichotomy for their dragons :p

TERRAX: ridden by the pre-doom character Jaenara Belaerys, who flew further south in Sothoryos than anyone else. God(dess) of travel/wisdom/conquest/oceans would be fun since she's a traveller who flew across oceans and sort of exemplifies the Valyrian conquest/adventurer spirit.

TESSARION: Okay the blue queen has to be a goddess of the ocean or the sky<3

TYRAXES: Joffrey's dragon :) I think a god of animals would be cute also cos he sounds like T-rex. I would name my dragon T-rex. Possibly a bastardisation of Terrax though...

URRAX: This is the name of a legendary/fairytale dragon from the story of Serwyn and Daeryssa from the Age of Heroes. By Daeryssa's naming convention and the fact she is mentioned only in AGOT, I think she was perhaps supposed to be a Targaryen before GRRM had established a full history. I think he's just a bastardisation of perhaps a Valyrian god like Arrax.

So my vision of the Valyrian pantheon includes Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes, Syrax, Vermithor, Arrax, Caraxes, Terrax, Tessarion, which is 9 gods

plus Meleys and Tyraxes who I'm not sure if I want to be referring to above gods or just the name of a god entirely, which makes 11

Adding a death god (Boash, Black Goat, Moghul) makes 12,

which leaves another two unnamed for my personal idea of a Valyrian pantheon :)

#old valyria #valyrianscrolls #asoiaf

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