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TNG 6x20 The Chase and 7x15 Lower Decks thoughts (rewatching, so possible future spoilers for DS9 too)
I’ve temporarily paused my DS9 re-watch after 2x20 Maquis Part 1 to go through all the Cardassian episodes in TNG to get a better picture of the build up: 4x12, 5x03, 6x10, 6x11, 6x20 and 7x15.
6x20 The Chase
Admittedly, I skipped the first half of this because as I skimmed through the plot on Memory Alpha, there was no mention of Cardassians until later on XD
Lady Captain Cardassian! I feel like they're pretty rare, it's sas I'm so excited by this
Tfw there's a looong pause... and you're watching it on 1.5x speed. Just how long was that pause in normal time?!
Living for the Klingon-Cardassian banter
Data just THRASHING that Klingon. I love him so much
The Klingon is so INTO Data - this is flirting, right?
"You are attempting to bribe me." "Not at all." "You suggested a plan that would work to your advantage, one that I would be capable of executing. You then implied a reward. Clearly you were."
I think Nu'Daq might be my new favourite one-off character
Cardassian treachery! Gotta love it
Federation smarts! Gotta love it XD
"I will go with you" but imma be salty about it
Just wondering why I hadn't seen Miles about since season 4, then realised that, of course, he's on DS9 XD Doh!
Romulans from nowhere :o
I do like the plan to answer the long-standing why-is-everyone-humanoid question
>> Thinking about the word humanoid the other day, do you think the other species hear their own word through the UT? Kingonoid and Romuloid or so forth.
Haha they disagree, so much for coming together in fellowship and companionship
Romulan ending <3 "Perhaps, one day." "One day."
7x15 Lower Decks
Deanna and Riker are just nice
Love the Vulcan
Bajor mention!
Very professional, waiter, to spill the beans lilke that!
I do love this episode, and seeing the command from the outside
I hope their friendship isn't ruined by promotion. They seem very sweet
Having said that, I suddenly have a horrible feeling Sita dies in this episode
Beverly is so lovely
Lost. Puppy. What?
Awwwwwkward. "They both get a lot of snow." Love how Riker just seems amused.
Yeah, this episode is great, only getting to see what one of the lower decks see
Did he also think Wesley should have been expelled?
I love this Vulcan. And I love Geordie, but his frustration with Taurik is pretty amusing
I'm a fan of this poker juxtaposition scene - interesting that they've broken away from just the lower decks characters.
Hah, okay, Lavelle does annoy Riker
Lol "You and Lavelle are a lot alike." "What? We're not at all alike." "You're bluffing."
I really love this Ben guy. Inclusion of a civilian just being friends with whoever is super cute
Okay, Worf is actually being pretty good here? I find myself liking him in this episode.
Ohhhh "I wanted to make sure that you got a fair chance to redeem yourself", that makes far more sense - no wonder I felt he was a little out of character in the first scene with her, he was acting.
"I didn't realise she would be so young."
The feels. She's so excited and proud and knowing what happens... it hurts.
Oh, the promotion. I'm tearing up. This episode is making me FEEL
Ben, you are great. Nice job moving Worf.
Amazing how this episode is so moving when you barely know the characters. I loved the premise, and I love the execution of it. (Though damn you for killing off Sito.)
Again, we see a helpful Cardassian, but get the overall impression Cardassia is still a threat.
#tng 6x20#tng the chase#tng 7x15#tng lower decks#andi watches ds9#(andi watches tng bc of ds9)#and that's me done on my tng detour for now i think!#back to the maquis!#although I shall be back after crossover for the Preemptive Strike#WSB
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Something about this interaction between Harry & Janeway - specifically Janeway but it's notable that Harry's the one listening because I think, say, Chakotay or B'Elanna might push back against the idolization of this 'it was different back in those days' way of thinking.
#Get the Tranq she's 'Good Old Boys'-ing!#never beating the Starfleet stooge accusations#which I think should have been brought up more between her and Chakotay#instead of just making Chakotay like Starfleet again so they can be together#the Tuvok/Chakotay/Janeway command trio should have been like#Janeway: I love Starfleet in an uncomplicated way and though it's painful sometimes I believe following code is the only way to proceed#Tuvok: I agree with the captain and this makes her believe in her decisions more - though I would attempt to obey her commands even if they#weren't regulation.#<- Janeway doesn't want to examine this#Chakotay: I hate Starfleet because of very valid reasons and I don't think following orders and codes from superiors is the best thing#in every situation. I want everyone here to examine their biases which cannot necessarily be done if biases are written into the#codes. We aren't in Starfleet space. We might have to adapt.#but it's nowhere near that nuanced bc you know. Starfleet Good. Starfleet Good. Starfleet Good. Maquis Bad. Maquis Bad. Maquis Bad.#Or you know: 'Maquis doing this the WROOONG way...violence isn't the answer :(' maybe violence is the answer sometimes.#when it's the only language the people in power understand.#maybe 'let's talk about this' is an insidious military tactic sometimes actually#Also Harry immediately going from 'They falsified logs?' to 'I always wondered it'd be like back then...~'#He and Janeway................Him and Janeway are!!! AGH#People think Harry's way too timid. They think this because he's asian and an ensign so they make him timid & obedient#But he's very willing to break or bend the rules - he's willing to fight he likes action and adventure and he's very similar to Janeway#where they'll both die and go to hell and come back just to save their crew - their friends - their family
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I very much love prodigy, it's objectively the best of kurtzman era trek HOWEVER the one bit of beef I have is that Chakotay simply wouldn't rejoin Starfleet after Voyager gets back. like. i very much get it. promoting a character in the organization the franchise is set in *is* an easy way to develop a character in a time skip (frankly i would have more questions if he was in Starfleet and still a commander) and given Prodigy's storyline, Chakotay is the only character who would make sense as Captain of the Protostar and as an impetus for Janeway being very personally involved in the search (Tuvok simply Would Not go back to the Delta Quadrant on a dangerous mission, Harry would be too young based on the timeline, and Tom & B'Elanna would *never* be Captains).
maybe my vibe sense was off about Chakotay but though he's fine with Starfleet rules for the most part, he and the rest of the Maquis crew never resolve their issues with the Federation and frankly shouldn't. the Maquis fight is over by the time they get back to Earth but all of them still have ideological qualms with the Federation and Chakotay left Starfleet for a reason! there might very well be some backstory for why he rejoined post-Voyager in s2 and I hope we get to see it because right now? eh I'm a little miffed.
#in my head Chakotay became an anthropology prof when they came back. he could even teach at the Academy!#and i know there are reasons why he joined Starfleet pre-Maquis that arent really touched on but i never got the sense#that Chakotay was enamored with the boldly going/exploration side of Starfleet#especially as an indigenous man with the colonialist assumptions that exploration is based on#i deeply need to go to sleep so sorry if this doesnt make sense#prodigy#my posts#chakotay#voyager
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oh this ep slaps so hard with this monologue:
"Open your eyes, Captain. Why is the Federation so obsessed about the Maquis? We've never harmed you, and yet we're constantly arrested and charged with terrorism. Starships chase us through the Badlands and our supporters are harassed and ridiculed. Why? Because we've left the Federation, and that's the one thing you can't accept. Nobody leaves paradise. Everyone should want to be in the Federation. Hell, you even want the Cardassians to join. You're only sending them replicators because one day they can take their rightful place on the Federation Council. You know, in some ways you're worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious. You assimilate people and they don't even know it."
it's just so good?????? oh my god????
#rambling tag#me watching ds9#4x22#sometimes i do wonder#if the maquis on voyager was pardoned#one of the reasons might be they're assimilated back to federation in a way
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i didn't want to leave a wall of text on that muse post by @marxistgnome but i love it so much and this is going to be so rushed but i could go on and on and on about b'elanna and storytelling and narratives. this got really long and so under the cut it goes
it all really ties into that post i once saw about this consistency with b'elanna episodes where they reveal more about her as a person through her interior life- her thoughts and dreams and visions... what she does when she's alone. and muse really gives us this close up look at the way she sees things and what she cares about through kelis - the stories she tells him and the way she interacts with him- because he gives this good intimate portait of the world as b'elanna sees it- as she's described it to him (almost makes you wonder what she was considering there- whether she thought she should tell someone their stories because they're stuck in another quadrant and might not make it home, or if she thought she wasn't going to get off that planet and might not make it back to voyager)
and of course he's crafting a play so there's room for his own creativity but b'elanna tells him their story really well and she cares about it and you can tell. she cares a lot.
we get another really good look at this in barge of the dead like famously- and it's so consistent in that episode too because she's on the barge and she recognizes kortar from the stories her mom told her as a child and he directly acknowledges that. he says she believes in grethor and in him and she believes because her mother told her the story after she nearly drowned in the sea of gatan. remember prophecy? she's recounting the whole heroic battle with the borg to the klingon generation ship that think baby miral is their savior and the whole scene is framed like (at least it felt this way to me) that for all she says about not being familiar with klingon culture in any respect, the way she interacts with storytelling especially reveals the depth of her understanding of it- shes telling the story and she's telling it really well according to klingon custom and the first thing the visiting klingons do after she tells it is compliment that ability. and its sooo much.
when her and harry are going back and forth at the end of muse and she just goes harry have you ever inspired somebody? when he asks why she even cares so much about the ending of kelis' play. there's just like this klingon belief about living a life that's worthy of being shared with others- like when in day of honor the hologram is evaluating whether she's spent her year honorably and asks her what she's done with her life that's worth celebrating and she can't answer and he tells her that she's giving him excuses. and the direct parallel that could be drawn about how she feels about that with the janeway vision in barge of the dead where she's being condemned and the whole reason is that she's done nothing worthy of glory- 'nothing worthy of song and story.' my goodness
even when she convinces janeway to let her go back to the barge- janeway says it's not real, that she won't let her risk her life for something that she only thinks she experienced- but b'elanna tells her it doesn't even matter if she thinks it was real- that it was real to her and she cares about what her mother thinks of her and she doesn't want her to die thinking badly of her.
we see this with worf, of course the angle we're given is honor and truth and duty- but how you're remembered and talked about is important, even from generation to generation- disgrace in his family is disgrace for him. when they accuse his father of being a traitor at khitomer, it's important to him that his father be remembered as he was - truthfully, honorably, as someone to remember well (even the titles and names they give themselves being little retellings of their lives and the members of their family- on memory alpha worf isn't just worf, he's worf, son of mogh, of the human family rozhenko, mate to k'ehleyr, father to alexander, husband of jadzia, bane of the house of duras, slayer of gowron etc etc.)
((sidenote but b'elanna never in her life introduces herself as b'elanna daughter of miral always as b'elanna torres but on the barge of the dead kortar calls her miral's daughter immediately. and if she's partially from this culture where naming and titles are so important in that respect and b'elanna thinks her mother is. not what she wants to be known by not what she wants to be identified as it's soo relevant to what she calls herself. roxann dawson said that b'elanna wanted to be 'human and perfect' like her father and so she's not ' b'elanna daughter of miral' anymore because she doesn't want miral to be a part of her story, how she's remembered. so it's belanna torres.))
anyway this same- dedication to truth we get from worf and his father's memory we see even with b'elanna in 'remember' where she gets those telepathic dreams/visions from the alien woman about what really happened with that group of people they oppressed. the crew discover that the dreams are starting to affect her health- and so they offer to suppress them, take them away and b'elanna just refuses. because how else will she know what happens to them? who's going to tell their story? and she shares that story once she has it with anybody who will listen because its worth telling.
i'm going a little crazy but klingons and writing and literature and song and stories and living memory its all so. it's ridiculously important culturally. and how that translates back to b'elanna is so fascinating
#this could even extend to her time in the maquis but thats so much and i dont have a good enough grasp of the maquis to tell it#as well as i'd like to.#i could even talk about. what she says- whats revealed about her through her dialogue vs whats said about her. <-a narrative#and those posts going around lately about how softhearted she is despite whats said about her#klingons and story.... everything important getting a retelling and recorded and passed down and set to music and told in theatres#even if its exaggerated its important that its being told. worf loves klingon opera b'elanna never sings a song once in seven seasons#b'elanna 'sometimes i'm little more than hearsay a story told back to me that doesn't make any sense' torres#trek#sidenote also being disgraced / the discommendation stuff from tng#where they turn their backs to the dishonored person and shun them and refuse to talk to them ... with the whole living memory... its like#you're dead and it's not acknowledged and your life dies with you- nobody to tell your story unless as a warning
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another thing I do wish had at least come up in ds9 while talking about the bajoran faith is the idea of just like. secular bajorans. I think the way they’re written that’s kind of ‘everyone just believes in the religion and that’s it’ is honestly a little flat? but I think there would be people who have a very complicated relationship with the prophets, who maybe didn’t believe in them before the events of the show and now maybe they have to but they think of them more as the wormhole aliens rather than gods, or just don’t believe (anymore, if they once did) that they should be worshipped because they allowed the events of the occupation to happen. but that wouldn’t mean entirely disengaging from the practices of religion as a community thing, or as comfort in times of need bc sometimes that sense of ritual can be a good one, who still wear the earring not so much as a sign of faith but just as a sign of being bajoran and being connected to their people.
idk not to sound like I’m overexplaining secular approaches to an ethnoreligion when that’s a lot of people’s lived experience but I’m just kind of thinking about what it would look like in this context, and I don’t know that it ever would have been a whole plotline but I think a mention could have been interesting. maybe something as small as rearranging duty schedules and it’s something that would interfere with religious services, but a couple specific bajorans are willing to take that because they’re not religious, and it’s a one line mention (which is the kind of thing ds9 often did well so it would feel natural), but it makes them a little less homogenous as a species.
#i don't really count the pah wraith cult for depth honestly like. it's never really about them#sometimes I feel like the show dropped the ball a little on bajorans other than kira and winn#like people always joke about how boring bareil and shakaar are and then idk that anyone else really gets talked about#and even if you expand to other shows you get ro laren and sito jaxa but let’s be real it’s mostly me talking about the latter#the few one-offs on voy don’t really have much going on (which is a bummer it would have been nice to have a recurring maquis bajoran)#and idk about later shows really but the prequel types won’t have anything so. idk.#I think just. adding a little more individuality in terms of things like faith could have helped the perception a little?#idk this became a grander statement than it was meant to be I’m really just rambling#and now im trying to tie it back together and i really cannot. good luck.#san rant#im sure this is a post someone else has already made but im always just doing whatever.
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Reading List 2023-2024 📚
The Secret History - Donna Tartt
The Song or Achilles - Madeline Miller
The Myth of the Wrong Body - Miquel Missé
The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
Remainder - Tom McCarthy
If We Were Villains - M. L. Rio
Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
Bones and All - Camille DeAngelis
The Goldfinch - Donna Tartt
The Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde
Beyond Good and Evil - Friedrich Nietzsche
Diaries - Franz Kafka
Frankenstein - Mary Shelly
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Tales - H. P. Lovecraft
The Divine Comedy - Dante Alighieri
1984 - George Orwell
The Iliad and The Odyssey - Homer
Unnatural Causes - Dr Richard Shepherd
Things Have Gotten Worse Since We Last Spoke and Other Misfortunes - Eric LaRocca
Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde - Robert Louis Stevenson
The Trial of the Templars - Malcolm Barber
Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco
Demian - Hermann Hesse
Pride & Prejudice - Jane Austen
Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
The Atlas Six - Olivie Blake
Giovanni's Room - James Baldwin
The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo - Taylor Jenkins Reids
Ninth House - Leigh Bardugo
Vita Nostra - Maryna & Serhiy Dyachenko
Pageboy: A Memoir - Elliot Page
Slaughterhouse-Five - Kurt Vonnegut
The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodr Dostoevsky
(updated: 03/01/24)
#doing this for my own amusement more so than anything else#just thought it'd be fun to put it all down somewhere and periodically cross off whenever i finish another one#i want to see how far i get before the year is over#although going back to studies fall time is putting a serious hamper on things because now#time is spent reading cases or watching lectures or doing assessments instead...#technically the secret history was started last year but if i remember correctly i finished it this year#so thought I'd put it there for the sake of it#some of these are rereads too like gatsby or dorian gray#i'm debating whether or not to add 120 Days of Sodom by Maquis de Sade on here ...#a coworker suggested it to me but with the forewarning it's probably the most messed up piece of literature I'll ever come across#watch this list probably have more books added to it#no particular order to this list just the way books are stacked on the shelf so expect the currently reading to not go numerically#literature#reading#tbr list
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ok voyager rewatch continued etc etc
s2e14 and they are FINALLY discussing that Starfleet protocols may not be serving them well in the Delta quadrant.
Like, fucking finally! The previous episode was the first time, probably this whole season, that they mentioned the prime directive, and that even came as a surprise because of how Janeway has been going about this journey home.
And like, yeah, the Kazon have been troublesome, but they certainly should’ve been really reevaluating strict adherence to Starfleet protocol when they are in the Wild West/opposite side of the known world/completely abandoned to desperately fight for survival. Starfleet protocol is strict! Starfleet protocol is precise! Starfleet protocol is flexible, but it is vigorously adhered to.
So, it feels like it’s taken forever for them to finally arrive at this philosophical/tactical point. 
OK, I’ll keep watching the episode… 
#and I mean maybe maquis protocols are better suited#but maybe it’s just flexibility in general!#like really think about#if you and 150 other people randomly and suddenly got stranded generations away from home#you gotta meet your situations as they come to get back to their peoples’ home#meggettes watches voyager#star trek#also i like their funeral ritual with the whistle and everything
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WHAT’S UP WELCOME TO WIRE WEEKEND!!!! (← Friday night at 3 in the morning when I finally watch Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Season 2 Episode 22 “The Wire” for the first time)
#will check back in after the hour and a half it will take me to watch this single 45 minute episode#yes I already know what happens in The Wire; but in a much more real sense I have no idea what happens in The Wire#anyways huge thanks to the Maquis two-parter for reminding me that I am too stupid to watch Star Trek <3#like last I checked the war was between Bajor and Cardassia and the Federation was just here now as a mostly-neutral helper to Bajor#after that war was over#but now apparently the Federation and Cardassia were at war also?? or was it the same war?? or??? I'M SO FUCKING DUMB!!!#but who cares. whatever. the important thing is that Julian Bashir is about to have the worst Meet The In Laws debacle in galactic history#I'm so scared my heartrate is literally up. god.#Star Trek: Deep Space 9#Starky's Original Posts#Starky's Text Posts
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woke up normal and then remembered ro larens inevitable death and the changelilng infiltration of the federation and the possible resurgence of the dominion war and “she calls me Commander Seven out of respect,” fucking hell
#so far these suprise main cast children have been utter fails tho#jack crusher who#picard spoilers#i cannot be normal about this they referenced the MAQUIS. YOU KNOW.#so now i think they're going to collect members of the old crews who have reason to not be in starfleet anymore#also i think janeway will appear because seven will be able to tell if she's a changeling or not#will it be real janeway? who knows#i hope to god roxann wants to come back i will actually die#garrett and robbie are still on their star trek bullshit too so maybe them also#ok but i know scarlett doesn't act anymore but.. . grown naomi....#ok ok ok ok ok i can wait for 12 hours#txt
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The news from the Alpha Quadrant turns both Janeway’s and Chakotay’s lives a little sideways. Janeway wants to talk about it. Chakotay doesn’t. Guess who wins.
[Me: No one ships J/C harder than me
Also me: Anyway here’s wonderwall another gen J&C fic]
#kathryn janeway#chakotay#J/C#Voyager#my fic#hunters#the maquis#back on my usual /two people in a room talking/ bullshit
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12:56 A.M.
As the horror invasion gotten out of hand it was time for gensokyo to strike back as the gensokyo defense force arrived alongside a few space kaiju, the nevermore, the tooth and claw's occult warfare unit such as the devil advocates, the red sun empire and the new moon corp have gathered all over the land to advance and fight against the horror onslaught with no mercy. All of the military factions marched fourth into the night of gensokyo to each village that are in need of protection and clear out any horror be it a powerful alpha horror or a common inga horror. These creatures have not realized that they initiated a war that they cannot win for gensokyo over the years have adapt and advanced possessing technology that combined with magic and koishi's blood as well as constructed biomechanic machines built for war and utility.
The horrors seeing a whole armada of these soldiers swarming at them out of the blue giving them little time to react as they strike back every single one of these makai spawn back to the world where they belong. Those yukarisaur shamans throat singing blessing all allies with the strength and durability of the dragon god as they push forward, the power armored infantry blasting away the horror scourge off their world with superior firepower as the horrors even try overwhelm them only to end up in the grisly chopping block, even the horrified individuals aren't strong enough against gensokyo's might.
Yukarisaur and red sun warriors slashing and eviscerating with swords and errors, Koishi raptor death troops and skirmishers firing and shredding the abominations with both mutilator machine guns and rifles alongside GDF, white star, new moon and little cloud troops while the horrors continue to fight despite their horrific demise.
" KEEP PUSHING THEM BACK! KEEP ON PUSHING THEM BACK! "
One of the new moon lunarians shouted into the firefight. During the horror genocidal retaliation, The M.I.D. who're also fighting against the horrors unfortunately got caught into the crossfire, now torn apart by the fury of gensokyo's people. This retaliation is the reason why Shinki kept these horrors from entering into gensokyo, for a fear that all of gensokyo will cry for war summoning Makai knights, or worse but this isn't war, it's full on execution as gensokyo and Koishi has had enough. Gensokyo will no longer suffer at the hands of invaders anymore as they will stop at nothing until the horrors are all wiped out and they're not taking prisoners. The horrors one by one, purified by fire and vengeance. This is their world, they are the invaders, pillagers, rapists, and all parasitic monsters that deserve to be wipe out from existence and the gensokyo defense force are gonna send them back to hell where they belong.
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Tuvok just has a sort of ‘mutiny against me’ vibe to his leadership style that the ensigns in his care don’t appreciate
#I can't remember if he has other moments but I'm specifically remembering#when he was put in charge of that Maquis crew and immediately made them all hate him enough to try to quit (he didn't even resolve this -#Chakotay was the one who got them come back)#and also Harry Kim rallying the entire ship behind him to back for Chakotay & Janeway - to be fair to Tuvok he would have done that no#matter who (except possibly Janeway) was in charge I'm pretty sure but still#OH HEHHEE and who can forget his own holonovel where he is a prominent motivator for the Maquis to mutiny and take over the ship#Tuvok. Take a course or something my love. <3#Just kidding Tuvok NEVER change I love how bad you are interpersonally#when you're in a 'making a bad first impression' contest and your opponent is Tuvok Voyager:
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[id: 10 gifs from season 2, episode 21 “the maquis part 2” from the tv series “star trek: deep space nine”, the gifs show commander benjamin sisko, and major kira nerys in sisko’s office.
1st & 2nd gif: sisko is standing inside his office, he talks to himself ““establish a dialogue.” what the hell does she think i've been trying to do?” kira comes into sisko’s office, she calls out to him, “commander.” but sisko picks up once more from where he stopped with his rhetorical question, “just because a group of people belong to the federation,”
3rd gif: the camera cuts to kira. sisko is still talking, “that does not mean that they are saints.” kira interrupts sisko, “excuse me.” but sisko asks her instead “do you know what the trouble is?” kira shakes her head before replying, “no.”
4th & 5th gif: the camera cuts back to sisko, who walks from behind his office to stand in front of kira. “the trouble is earth.” sisko starts to reply, and kira interjects with a “really?”, sisko continues, “on earth, there is no poverty, no crime, no war. you look out the window of starfleet headquarters and you see paradise. well, it's easy to be a saint”
6th gif: the camera cuts to a close of kira, she is listening to sisko, “in paradise, but the maquis do not live in paradise.”
7th, 8th, 9th, & 10th gif: the camera cuts to show sisko pacing back and forth, before stopping in front of kira. he is clearly frustrated and agitated by starfleet’s response to the situation “out there, in the demilitarized zone, all the problems haven't been solved yet. out there, there are no saints, just people -- angry, scared, determined people who are going to do whatever it takes to survive, whether it meets with the federation's approval or not.” /end id]
#startrekedit#deepspacenineedit#deepspace9edit#scifiedit#deep space nine#deep space 9#benjamin sisko#kira nerys#my stuff#*#**#ds9*#ds9**#long post#ds9#im still in early season 4 but this is top 10 sisko moements for me like the switch from the starfleet rule book clearly states we should do#x in this situation to going to the demilitarised zone himself and realising that the rules do not justly apply here and trying to convey#this but then star fleet goes well they are still federation citizens surely they will understand the rules or w/e and then this speech???#didnt include the makes sense to me / im glad someone understand bc the of the length but it was such a good ending to the scene imo#esp when kira tells sisko ok you should def give the same speech with the same emotion and belief to the cardassian legate
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There are some ridiculous Garashir things that happen in the Deep Space Nine books.
Here's links to all my posts with screenshots of the book parts for ones I've found.
Proud Helios- Several pages straight of Julian getting flustered at Garak clearly admiring him, and Julian admires back and thinks about Garak's "beautiful hands" and they're touching and more... Then Julian has to go talk to Sisko and is absolutely not hiding his desire for Garak.
The Maquis Soldier of Peace comic- The plot is Dukat kidnapping Julian to get revenge on Garak, a shameless use of the "kidnap the target's love interest to get to them" trope.
Heart of the Warrior- Garak wanting Julian to wear an extremely revealing outfit, and Julian seems to do so after Garak helps them with the mission.
Fool's Gold comic- Garak no-showing a lunch date to go get some gemstones, complete with soft pink romantic lighting and lens flare. Also, he only gets involved with the plot because the shenanigans are ruining their lunch dates.
Vengeance- SO MUCH DAMN FLIRTING! Secret messges via Human/Cardassian sex chemicals?! Stuck in a small locker together and Garak whisper-flirting in Julian's ear. Julian swooning at Garak easily picking up Miles. Sisko hoping Julian and Garak are having a nice time together while he's out on a mission...
Dominion War Book Two- extended "A Time to Stand" Infirmary scene, with Garak offering to be Julian's nurse. Also Julian being paranoid about a Cardassian hitman coming after Garak while they're on the Defiant.
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I've said this already in the tags on a different post but I can't stop thinking about Janeway after the Pathfinder project is successful and she starts getting reports from Starfleet HQ about the Dominion War. How inexorable a force the Jem'Hadar seem. How world after world is falling. How the casualties mount. The Maquis have already been destroyed and she can feel the grief from those of her officers who lost friends, but beyond that there's the knowledge that the destruction didn't end with a few rebels on the edge of Federation space. The entire Alpha Quadrant is tearing itself apart, and it's all so far away. Yes, her little ship has face Borg and alien power struggles and a Void without stars - they've lost friends too - but as the numbers keep coming in, day after day, impossibly high, what goes through her mind? Does she wish harder that she hadn't destroyed the array, so that she could have stayed to fight and do her part to save the home she so desperate to get back to? Or is some part of her soothed about her decision, knowing that by putting the needs of the Ocampa before her own, she likely saved the lives of many of the people now under her command? How do you deal with loss on such an abstract yet personal scale, and how do you sit and read the reports of lost battle after lost battle, knowing that it might mean the home you were so desperate for might no longer exist by the time you get there?
What if Voyager ends up being all that's left?
#star trek#star trek voyager#janeway#kathryn janeway#captain janeway#dominion war#i really would have loved to see some impacts of the dw on voyager's crew#not just one episode of b'elanna having depression before it goes away again#because how many of the crew are losing friends in the war?#does it bring the starfleet and the maquis crews closer in shared grief?#anyway this is a fancy way of saying voyager really should have invested in a counsellor program for the holodeck#my dudes you don't need irish stereotype village you need a psychologist
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