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almacambiondaughterofsaleos · 6 months

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Again Stolitz Is Just Gay Starco

A ship that the creators are so in love with and pander to the fans of it so much that the story is hurt because of it and the characters become more and more unlikable because of how much the writing bends over backwards for their relationship.

#anti-starco #starco #stolitz #stolas #anti-stolas #star vs the forces of evil #star vs #stolas critical #stolas criticism

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starlight-bread-blog · 8 months

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Oh really, Daron Marco?

Putting aside the fact that Marco hasn't shown romantic feelings to Star at that time, and that it wasn't even hinted – there are evidence to support that this simply wasn't the case. Make what you will:

The Naysaya curse was to prevent the victim of it from confessing to their "one true love". But it didn't do that for Star, but Jackie.

Marco is forced to confesse who he has a crush on. The box flat out confirms that Jackie is his crush.

Janna spents 14 hours hypnotizing Marco out of having a crush on Star, which was proven to be effective. It didn't work due to the Blood Moon.

#anti starco #antistarco #anti-starco #starco critical #anti svtfoe #svtfoe critical #star vs the forces of evil critical #anti star vs the forces of evil

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keishara-korianthil · 3 months

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Multifandom Ships #2

Am I the only one that hates when in a show/movie they make a straight couple just because it's straight instead of making a LGBT couple that definitely has more chemistry?

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todomemolesta18 · 5 months

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You wanna know what this two ships have in common?

They are good friends, but they were forced by the writters to end up together. Like, im not gonna be an hypocrite, i love the friends to lovers trope, but with this two ships it feels... forced. They could have been just friends!

With Starco, oh boy, a lot of people already talked about the problems and bad writting.

And Gimblow, people didnt see it AT ALL. Like, people who watched it tough at first that Glimmers "i love you" was platonic. And for good reasons!

Is okay if you ship them, but that doesnt mean that the writting is good. If it was, I wouldnt mind it. But sadly thats not the case.

#nothing against it #not an anti cause they are not bad ships but the writting wasnt good #anti starco #anti glimbow

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madaraugly · 3 months

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Why i think Starco ruined s4

#star butterfly #Tom lucitor #tomstar #star vs the forces of evil #marco diaz #starco #anti tarco

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dizzying-faust · 10 days

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Adrinette isn't my OTP but if you declare it worse than that trainwreck that is St//rco, GTFO.

#c's thoughts #you can issues with ml's writing #but i can say one thing #the romance is at least tolerable here compared to svtfoe's #ml fandom salt #anti starco

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fluffykitty149 · 5 months

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My little sister insisted on seeing an awkward clip of svtfoe so I showed her a clip of the ending of starcrushed. Her mannerisms were similar to what I can only imagine @sagesilentfire reacted to that moment. She backed away in horror cringing and despite me being a starco fan I ended up laughing. The poor girl is oblivious to what happens after.

#svtfoe #anti starco #not really anti but i wouldn't call it positive

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juniaships · 2 years

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These two images invoke the same amount of rage in me.

#anti starco #anti amethyst ocean #anti danny x sam #svtfoe salt #danny phantom salt #HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT #HATE HATE HATE HATE

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western-magical-girl-confessions · 2 years

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“Am I the only one who doesn't like Tomstar as a ship? I found it pointless since I knew that Star was eventually going to end up with Marco and I found their relationship one-sided since Tom was more invested and made more of an effort whereas Star was never truly over Marco, to begin with.”

#anti tomstar #starco #star vs #star vs the forces of evil #star vs confessions #western magical girl confessions #confession 2047

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jess-the-vampire · 1 year

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I hate how people defend Star without thinking much, just because she’s the main protagonist doesn’t mean she’s flawless and innocent.

listen, i love star vs, but it's a hot mess, i'm critical about it so much because i know it had the potential to be REALLY good and the crew fell off the wagon HARD.

it should say a lot that me, a fan, doesn't want a continuation of the show in the future, the ending is just THAT bad to me. It's so bad i feel there's nothing much to look forward to in a future spinoff continuing this canon.

and i want desperately to say this show was fantastic all the way through, but it's not a show you can rewatch because of what you know is going to happen to the plot points, characters, ect ect

i stick to aus for a reason.

and look, toh isn't perfect either, i have pointed out some aspects in it that feel contradictory or not as explained or not handled as great as it could of been.

But toh, even tho it's not flawless and has these issues, is still watchable and still mostly enjoyable all the way through. I feel i can at least trust the crew of toh, to have some idea what they're doing as far as arcs and story, even if it's not perfect 100%.

It's not like with star where you'll have an episode about how "Oh, marco and kelly are thinking about being a thing and marco wants to move on from star cause he actually likes kelly and he feels he needs to move on".

And then like several eps later they break up offscreen, between episodes, for no real reason and it never gets acknowledged again as marco goes back to liking star and that possible character development goes out the window.

Star vs had so many issues it renders the show impossible to rewatch, that's how much of these problems caused it to collapse on itself.

people really REALLY push to defend the finale, but if you have to ignore established canon and/or defend genocide of beings in an anti genocide show to tell me why this is all ok, i think you're already on a bad foot.

and i could go on and on about everything wrong with this but let's keep this simple when it comes to Star herself. Star is a flawed character, which is fine, she should be, but it got to a point where her flaws stopped becoming things she needs to overcome and just aspects the team either didn't see as problems, or just ignored.

and this is the team who brought us Tom and Eclipsa, two flawed characters who make mistakes, but apologize, are sympathetic, are beloved for a reason.

Star, and marco for that matter, stop being likable people because their flaws are never properly fixed by the end.

One of the main flaws being they constantly put each other over everyone else, to a point it comes off unhealthy and makes them seem unlikable and selfish.

marco and star abandoning everyone by jumping back in the well? Never thinking about the weight of destroying magic to the multiverse outside of their own selfish desires? Star's entire treatment of her own boyfriend? Going off to have a love confession as people are dying in a war outside? and so, so much more,

It really feels looking back, starco made them worse as people, not better.

And i think the crew wanted us to come out thinking the complete opposite without realizing or ignoring the fact that the ship was bringing out some of their worst traits and by not acknowledging it, it made things worse.

Because acknowledging it makes the ship look bad, and the team doesn't like doing that. Star might of been the main character of the show, but she came out of it being very hard to like, all because the team wanted to push their own biases and ideas without considering other aspects of the series and how bad it made star look as a person.

it's sad man, there was so much potential for her to have a good arc here.

When you want to write a main lead and you take inspiration from this show, have a character more like Tom and Eclipsa, not like Star.

#sorry i have so many thoughts about star vs as a series XD #i think i always will #star could of been so good man #the writers just clearly didn't have a grasp on what they were doing #star vs the forces of evil #svstfoe #svtfoe

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chiibinomonodamon · 2 years

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“Star and Marco are like brother and sister”

Me:

“Starco is unhealthy and all the other ships are healthier”

Me:

“Star and Marco have better chemistry with other characters than each other”

Me:

Pardon me, but WTF are Starco antis even smoking?

#how can people think this way #like wtf #BROTHER AND SISTER?#EWWWWW #UNHEALTHY!?#WHAT #U SERIOUS?#starco #star vs the forces of evil #bitch please

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starlight-bread-blog · 8 months

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When a there is an outside factor building up to romantic leads not ending up together, while also wrecking the pacing of the ship...

And the red herring's being toxic but the writers just hope you pick up on the vibe without holding anyone accountable...

Is when it's time to check your bias.

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keishara-korianthil · 3 months

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Multifandom Ships #4

I find annoying how in shows/movies there are straight couples that share certain scenes and people are like "Awww cute", "They look so good together" and "OMG They are a perfect couple" but if two boys/two girls share the same scene or a scene that definitely shows how much they care about each other, if you ship those two boys/two girls people are like "They are just brothers/sisters", "They are very good friends", "They don't see each other romantically".

I mean, if you insist that much in two boys/two girls having a platonic relationship with those kind of scenes then you can accept that a girl and a boy also share only a friendship having the same scenes 🤷

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monkeymindscream · 1 year

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6, 8, 10, 12, 16, and 23. SALT FOR SALT, UNLEASH THE BEAST.

YES. YES. THE BEAST IS OUT!

6. Which ship fans are the most annoying?

Overall, I pray every night that I will never again be placed within the vicinity of more shippers who are anything like Starco shippers. Skin me with a cheese grater over that.

But that's not especially topical for me at the moment (and anyway, I've barely touched the Star vs. fandom since its finale, so for all I know they've calmed down since then). So in terms of a group I've encountered more recently that's gotten my nerves:

Lunter shippers.

I've been dipping my toe into the "toh critical" tag lately, for my own mental health. It's been a very cathartic experience for the most part, save for the slew of anti-Huntlow sentiments. Most of the people I've noticed decrying Huntlow are Lunter shippers. Which, I'm sorry, puts a massively different spin on any arguments they may try to dredge up against it.

Which listen. I fully acknowledge that Lunter is, thematically speaking, 100% the superior ship. And I don't just mean that when compared to Huntlow, it eclipses Lumity by a green mile. Like - yes Lumity is a massively important milestone, culturally speaking, yes it's very cute, no I'm not trying to lobby that the show would have been better without it or whatever, but I'm sorry these are the facts. Luz and Hunter had better chemistry as enemies than Luz and Amity did, and once they were on the same side they confided in each other more than Luz and Amity did. The payoff of them getting together at the end of the series would have been better than the Lumity payoff we got. ("They're siblings-!" fanon likes to interpret them as siblings; they don't share blood so this argument holds no water.)

All of this is course coming from a purely objective standpoint, you understand, because I'm very firmly Team Huntlow. Which, getting back to the point at hand, Lunter shippers apparently are aggressively against. I'm not saying they don't have valid points to their arguments (because lord knows this show turned into an incomprehensible mess by the end), but I resent that they frame those arguments as objective when they're obviously grasping at whatever they can to justify why their ship is superior. (On this note, I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the anti-Lumity sentiments I saw in the critical tag were also primarily from Lunter shippers.)

8. Common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

(Hollow Knight!)

The amount of people I see out here acting like it's even feasible that the Pale King went through all his offspring, one by one, and then chucked them into the Abyss when he deemed them "failures" is staggering. It is honestly the stupidest fucking take I've ever seen. That pit is filled with husks. There's thousands if not hundreds of thousands of them. How much time do you think this motherfucker had?

Also, he's a gotdamned bug. Who was married to someone who had to chain herself up to prevent her urge to breed. How has no one come to the conclusion that he placed their eggs in the Abyss to imbue them with Void, and then Hollow was chosen to be the vessel for the Radiance because they're the only one (seemingly) who managed to fight their way back out? That getting out was the first test they had to pass to prove their worth?

(This shit-opinion is so prevalent that it was stolen for another piece of media, and it makes just as much if not less sense there.)

10. Worst part of fanon

(Rise!)

Donnie is fucking everywhere and is used for moments that would better suit/make more sense for his brothers.

12. The unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

Considering the prevailing attitude in most of the fandom spaces I've fallen into in the last five years seems to be "if they've done something bad then they're horrible characters and don't deserve any time in fanworks unless they're getting dunked on/being a complete piece of shit!" I'd say most if not all of my faves fit for this? Soo lightning round!

Emperor skekSo: Is he one of the worst of the skeks, if not THE worst? Yes (which is a con for you people, for some reason). Does he also have some of the most humanizing motivations out of all of them, is actually very effective at redirecting the group as a whole towards a mutual goal, and unarguably has the best design? Also yes.

Pale King: First of all, what the fuck would any of you have done in his position when faced with an entity that wanted her subjects to be eternally, blindly obedient, and who then wanted revenge when you took that away from her? Even though he made untold amounts of mistakes and less than stellar decisions in his efforts to protect his kingdom, his intentions were good. Tragic, morally-grey, haunting-the-narrative characters are wonderful, actually.

Krangs 1, 2, and 3: They get absolutely no love in fanworks, but they should. They're collectively badass, their personalities and entire dynamic with each other is really entertaining and interesting, if you give it even the barest amount of effort, and the implications of what we can infer of Krang culture from them is wildly fascinating.

Philip Wittebane: Honestly at this point I think everyone should like him just because the irony of the fandom-puritans constantly shitting on him (an actual Puritan) for essentially fulfilling his role as an antagonist has long worn thin, and I'd like to make them uncomfortable.

KIKIMORA: KIKI IS FANTASTIC ALRIGHT?? She's a funny little guy, she's ruthless, she's got an abusive family (or at least mother based on the snippet we got), she'd sell you to Satan for one cornchip, she has one of the best designs in the whole show-

(Also she's proof that people are shallow as all fuck, because if she was conventionally attractive/more human-looking, she'd be a fan-favorite and have people writing essays to defend her. That's how Lilith got away with everything.)

16. You can’t understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

(Cult of the Lamb!)

Having Narinder need to apologize to the other characters. He's the only character I see people taking the stance with. Which is especially egregious when it involves the other Bishops. It's usually something to the tune of him needing to make up for the injuries he cased them.

I'm sorry, how did the entire fandom manage to leapfrog over the fact that he only injured them because they were actively trying to imprison him?? I'd be cat-scratching at people too, no pun intended. If people are apologizing I don't think the cat should be the one made to head the line.

Also, in regards to the Bishops, I never see art/fic of the Lamb being salty towards them when they join their cult, but I see loads of art/fic of Lamb being a sadistic fucking bully to Nar over their whole debacle. And it's presented as either just a silly joke or totally justified and what Nar deserves. Fuck y'all.

23. Ship you’ve unwillingly come around to

(Rise!)

I didn't plan on falling head-over-heels for Leuno. I even resisted a little once I first felt it pulling me down. Didn't last. Look how that turned out.

Also John/Rhi, but only by virtue on not wanting to like John at first

#muttering about owls #muttering about turtles #muttering about thra #muttering about bishops #muttering about bugs

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todomemolesta18 · 5 months

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Hey just fyi you accidentally tagged your starco and glimbow anti post with the ship tags so it's showing up for everyone, can you please correct to so it doesn't circumvent fan's tag blocks? thx!

Ofc! Im sorry if I bothered the shippers!

#Ask #thank you

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ljf613 · 10 months

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How bout some Star Vs: 21, 22, 25

21. part of canon you think is overhyped I don't know if this qualifies, but I think people make a little too much of the whole "Princess Turdina" bit, and try to act like it's super woke or progressive or means that Marco is canonically genderfluid or whatever. Crossdressing for disguise is nothing new-- it's an ancient trope that is generally meant to be humorous and not intended to be taken particularly seriously.

22. your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores I haven't been in the fandom long enough to know what parts of canon do or don't get attention, but I think one of my favorite little underrated moments is in "Hungry Larry" (S2:E11A):

It's a really sweet, vulnerable moment from a character who's generally used more for comic relief, and I love it when Dads get to be Dads. There's a lot more that could be said here about how both of the Diaz parents really center their lives around their home and family and how that's shaped Marco's personality, goals, and worldview, but I'll have to expound on all that in some later post.

25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing The fact that Starco antis actually exist is objectively hilarious and I'm still not convinced the whole thing isn't some elaborate hoax. And I'm not talking about people who had problems with the way Star and Marco's relationship developed over the course of the story. (Personally, I thought it was some of the best and most realistic relationship development I've ever seen in a TV show and just wish they'd had more time as an on-screen couple, but to each their own.) I'm talking about the antis who hate the fact that this ship even exists, insist that Star and Marco's relationship should have been written as completely platonic, and act like the two of them getting together was some kind of betrayal of the entire show and its fanbase. Look, I get that not everyone is going to like the same ships I do, and I'm all for ship and let ship. But it has been blatantly obvious since Day 1 exactly where this story was going. How in the multiverse do you watch "That Show About Those Two Best Friends Who Go On Wacky Adventures and Also Fall in Love With Each Other" for four entire seasons and come away from it saying "I can't believe Those Two Best Friends Who Go On Wacky Adventures actually Fell in Love With Each Other"? Dude. My guy. That is literally the exact premise of this show. That's the story that's being told here. If you weren't interested in seeing that, why are you even watching? This is exactly like going to the movie theatre to watch a romcom and then complaining that it wasn't a thriller. Or getting annoyed that your local pizza parlor doesn't serve steak.

Send me an ask that may incite violence.

#star vs the forces of evil #thoughts #ask me stuff #choose violence #marco diaz #rafael diaz #starco #otp: every single thing about you #thanks for the ask!#seriously there are plenty of shows out there about friends going on wacky adventures and NOT falling in love so why not watch one of them?#clearly this particular story was just not for you #all queued up

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