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It’s still insane how that side of tvdu fandom vilifies Tyler for choosing to get revenge on the man that killed his mother and friends instead of staying with Caroline, all because they needed an excuse to make Klaus look like the better choice for Care. Which is insane because he has physically harmed Caroline and almost killed her, yet somehow him doing that isn’t terrible as Tyler growling at Caroline bc she slept with the man who tortured him and again, has killed his mother…
“Tyler slut shamed her”… when all he stated was that she slept with Klaus. Even in show, they have Stefan punching him and acting as if he said something egregious [Them completely forgetting all the times they have Caroline call other female characters sluts or insinuate it, but ofc the writers and fandom have selective memory when it comes to certain characters] when Tyler had the right to be upset over his girlfriend sleeping with the man who destroyed his life.
This is the same side that calls Bonnie a terrible friend because she didn’t immediately warm up to Caroline being a vampire. Even though Caroline had literally killed an innocent person—Even though Bonnie made her a daylight ring not too long after. But this is the TVD fandom we’re talking about, so of course black and poc character’s feelings are not an importance to them. It’s interesting how they are so quick to infantilize and baby white characters, yet the black/poc chars are supposed to easily move on from their trauma, deal with it, and prioritize their white counterparts over themselves.
#the vampire diaries#tyler lockwood#anti stefan salvatore#anti klaroline#anti steroline#anti the vampire diaries#anti julie plec#anti caroline forbes#anti klaus mikaelson
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the later seasons of tvd would’ve been so much better had bonnie and caroline switched love interests and storylines.
it would’ve made more sense for stefonnie to get together, bonnie have kids (whether they be the gemini twins or not), stefan take the cure from elena, and open as supernatural school.
it also would’ve made more sense for caroline to fall for enzo (a vampire that actually enjoyed vampirism and fit her moral standards) and did the whole annoyance to lovers trope.
bonnie showed interest in having kids and was far more equipped to teach the next generation of supernaturals. additionally stefonnie had a much better set up post season 4 and kat and paul had amazing chemistry.
caroline never showed interest in children in any way shape or form and enjoyed every aspect of vampirism. it would’ve been more fitting for her to be with someone that fit the immortal lifestyle she set out to live, which enzo could’ve done (i honestly would’ve loved single!caroline but if i couldn’t have that or forwood, carenzo would’ve been my next choice for her).
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Tyler didn’t slutshame or cheat on Caroline. I wish people actually paid attention but they only heard Klaus running his mouth. Then saw bright colored eyes when Tyler told her to leave him alone AND repeatedly said she slept with Klaus. That is not slut shaming, “Caroline felt bad…” Hm, because she knew Tyler wasn’t going to hear her out on that?
Revenge on Klaus was okay when Stefan wanted it but…of course Tyler wasn’t supposed to feel anything 🙄
#i think that is one of those moments where care may have thought she had the Elena effect on people bc lol#in some fashion that is her karma for telling Stefan about D e le na#Tyler Lockwood#anti forwood#Tyler Lockwood deserves better#anti steroline#anti Stefan Salvatore#anti klaus mikaelson
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The Vampire Diaries opinions people hate me for:
Forwood is actually a good ship and I wish it didn't have to go down like that, at the expense of Caroline's character.
I ship Klaroline; but Klaus was toxic. I could only ever see this ship becoming endgame if Klaus redeemed himself first.
Caroline had chemistry with everyone except Stefan.
Bamon had potential (and it was literally in the books). If they had come up with a "I had my humanity off" plotline it would have made the ship work🤷🏻♀️
Bonezo is a good ship and is clearly less toxic than Bamon; but it only happened to please racist dullena fans that complained about Bamon's romantic implications(even if it happened in the books)
Caroline, Katherine, Bonnie, & Stefan are the most interesting characters of TVD
Jeremy & Anna were cute IDK🤷🏻♀️
Matt did not deserve the hate. His feelings were valid. All his friends were killers and he was an abandoned, heartbroken boy, whose mom was a drunk and pedophile, and his only sister & family was killed by the boyfriend of his ex-girlfriend who he loved alot, just cause he decided he was bored. He remained loyal & brave to his friends and they didn't account for their murders and killings & stopped caring for the innocent.
Alaric was not a bad father and teacher. Even if he had his slip-ups he was actually an interesting & good character.
Damon is way too defended In this fandom. People should like the character and not defend the wrongs?! Just how many women has he compelled to sleep with him and to let him drink their blood? And what about what he did to Aaron whitmore? He slaughtered entire families of Innocents even while dating Elena. So all that "sHe mAkEs hiM bEtTeR" crap, is not valid. You can like Ian's acting and the smugness of his character, & like the character for those reasons, without defending the terrible acts of the character.
Delena was a horrible ship. The only reason it's popular is due to the shallow fact that people see Ian as more handsome than Paul. The ship only has good chemistry and looks. Beyond that, there is nothing.
Stefan is still the better man. (Fried humanity/off humanity Stefan don't count just as it goes for all the other vampires) Gaslighting writing through the other characters won't change that(Nice try, Julie P)🤷🏻♀️
Alaric and Jo were really cute together. I don't care. They made epic twins together.
Elena is overloved; but overhated at the same time. It's annoying. Just love the kind human girl that she used to be and hate the vicious, selfish girl she became, without hating her for breathing. That simple.
Klelijah(Katherine x Elijah) is not a good ship. Katherine loved stefan. She was only using Elijah to survive, and back then she only pitied him. Elijah also only was with her because of what he did to Tatia
Katherine did deserve better though, even if she did bad things. Making her the biggest/& ultimate devil and pretending there wasn't any good in her was incredibly misogynistic. Like Damon & Klaus did worse things and they get happy lives and good character ends? Like No! Horrible! Katherine's core was a scared little girl who wanted to live a normal human life while still being powerful and beautiful. She was chased for 500 years, had to see her entire family slaughtered, lost a baby because of misogynistic expectations, found her again, just to see her last family die again. Did she do horrible things? Yes; all to survive. But she also saved Jeremy, Damon, Stefan, encouraged Elena to be honest about what she felt for Damon even when she didn't have to.
Caroline did annoying things; but overall she was an interesting character. And she was way too smart and strong as a vampire. I loved seeing it.
Bonnie deserved so much more than the show gave her. I hope she gets her own show one day. A show about witches would be pretty lit.
Rebecca could have tried harder to be kinder and less evil. I get she had centuries of habits she needed to break but still. (Elena stabbing her in the back was still shit though)
Klaus was evil to his default and was an abuser to his family. I'm glad he changed/died for hope; but still I would have been nice if there were other factors to this action.
They shouldn't have thrown away the good of Elijah Mikalson. He didn't deserve that. The way they also tried to pull a Stefan on him.
Haylijah was a cute ship🤷🏻♀️
Esther wasn't wrong about her children being evil as vampires. And what she wanted to do with them was have them live as humans.
What the originals did to Marcel was fucked up
What the originals did to Davina was cruel
I wish we could have seen more of the witch that played "the hollow".
Glamorizing Hope's evil side is not "a flex". Again, like the character & actor art; but not the vicious actions.
Hosie should have been canon
That random new original sister was so unnecessary.
Kolvina is the most interesting ship of the entire TVDverse I wish there was more of them
All TVD ships were good I just find: Steroline, Delena, & Klamille to be cringe. Steroline only happened to compensate Forwood/& Klaroline and justify Delena. And Delena only happened because of looks and the love story was trash. Klamille was also a compensation ship to Klaroline so yeah, cringe.
TVD writing, lore, acting, cinematography,. directing is all a 10. The only thing that is trash is the ending and all the romantic entanglement the show had.
Warning: This isn't to start an agree to disagree party. This post is just so that those that agree with me can high-five with me. If you disagree, don't even bother commenting on this post. Everything is a matter of perception & perspective. I'm just sharing mine, while venting. By jumping on this post to fight with me you are immediately self-labeling yourself as entitled. Everyone has their own opinions bestie so don't even.
#the vampire diaries#anti the vampire diaries#klaroline#stelena#bamon#bonenzo#the originals#anti delena#anti steroline#kolvina#anti klamille#the mikaelsons#esther mikaelson#anti klaus mikaelson#elijah mikaelson#davina claire#anti tvd ending#bonnie bennett#katherine pierce#caroline forbes#my post#matt donovan#alaric saltzman#janna#jeranna#elena gilbert#anti elena gilbert#stefan salvatore#elijah mikealson#legacies
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Unpopular TVD opinions?
-Caroline is no better than Elena
-Tyler is overhated
-Forwood>>>SC + KC
-The good brother/bad brother thing is bull
-Elena deserved better than the Salvatores
-I don’t ship either but I’d take DE over KC any day of the damn week
-Klaus is not morally superior to Damon like a lot of stans say
-Rebekah is the best Mikaelson
-Katherine is the best villain on TVD
-Steferine=Daroline
-Klaus is a horrible villain
#answered#emma 🥝#tvd#unpopular opinions#anti caroline forbes#anti elena gilbert#I like them both but the double standards are so dumb#forwood#anti steroline#anti klaroline#anti salvatores#anti klaus mikaelson#rebekah mikaelson#katherine pierce#anti steferine#anti Daroline
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TVD OPINIONS!
PLEASE DON'T CREATE DRAMA UNDER THE COMMENTS OR UNDER THE REPOST. if you don't agree, just block me. ( these photos are from my editing acc on tiktok bc I'm too lazy to rewrite all of the things). ALSO! there are some things that I already said in my recent post but well yk it's won't hurt anyone if I add them again. last but not least, some of these are inspired by @margueritetheduchess05 's post I re-blogged yesterday. sorry for bad English but it's not my native language <3
if you agree please lemme know! and if you don't, well idc just scroll and ignore or just block. have a good day :)
#tvd#the vampire diaries#the originals#caroline forbes#klaus mikaelson#damon salvatore#stefan salvatore#bonnie bennett#kol mikaelson#Rebekah mikaelson#enzo st john#klaroline#anti klamille#anti steroline#anti calaric#i hate the miracle baby thingy
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I saw someone saying that Stefan couldn't ever be himself with Elena, because he was so serious with her, too busy protecting her and constantly trying to get her to do the right thing. It was also brought up that Elena could only be herself with Damon, because Damon is more fun and she got familiar with her dark side with him. And I couldn't help but laugh.
Stefan could be very protective at times, yes, but when it got too far for Elena's liking, she called him out on it and he learned from it. They worked as a team, made mistakes, were there for each other during their dark times and grew together and Elena did her best to keep him safe as well. They had a similar sense of humor and multiple playful moments, when they both were visibly enjoying their time together in the middle of all the supernatural craziness. This didn't change after she turned into a vampire, either. Stefan didn't want to fix her for himself, because he didn't like her as a vampire. He tried to find the cure, because Elena herself had repeatedly said that she didn't want to become vampire and didn't think she could survive as one. That's why Elena's "broken toy"-comment in 4x10 sounds confusingly sudden and absolutely ridiculous.
I love Caroline and Stefan as a powerful BROTP, but when they got together as a couple, it all seemed really one-sided and they never appeared to be as comfortable with each other than they were with their earlier partners and other close people in their lives. They simply weren't very compatible, in my opinion.
I'm not gonna go too far on the D*lena-road or touch the whole sirebond-subject, because it's not good for my blood pressure, but Damon "being fun" and "presenting Elena to her dark side and getting her to accept it" repeatedly put her at an unhealthy pedestal in his eyes and many people around her in serious danger - and was a big part of why Elena ended up turning into something almost unrecognizable. I saw absolutely nothing in canon, that would've backed up her "In death you're the one that made me feel most alive"-statement to Damon. And to be honest, I think that if Katherine would've wanted to be with him, Damon wouldn't have looked at Elena twice.
Sorry if this got too salty. Just wanna remind you, that I don't see Stefan as a perfect angel or Damon as a complete devil. They both have their own flaws and mistakes and also their good moments. But I can't help feeling very frustrated about the most endgames in the TVD/Originals-universe.
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Season 4-6 are PEAK annoyance for me when it comes to Caroline lol. Just the amount of meddling, gossiping, pettiness, etc is just so fucking annoying and tbh I think she’s wildly overrated. The writers/audience/characters are literally obsessed with her every season, to the point other characters don’t any get development because she’s sucking up screen time doing nothing. Caroline legitimately had no storyline from season 3b on until season 6 other than playing a love interest, and yet she’s everywhere all the time which was infuriating to me. I personally don’t think much of the storyline would’ve changed if she weren’t there, so for me she just wasn’t as significant as everyone treated her all the time. I also couldn’t stand her constant jealousy/frenemy nonsense with Elena throughout the series, her making Stefan into a villain in season 6 because he was grieving his brother and basically forcing him into dating her, and the way she treated Tyler after they broke up and she slept with the man who destroyed his life and tried to kill her friends. Don’t even get me started on her pointless love triangles every season because Julie Plec wanted a self insert on the show who was the object of every single man’s affections.
None of the storyline would have changed without Caroline there, she is not really important. The only thing important that she did (that I can think of) was figure out the sirebond between Elena and Damon. And let's be completely honest, Klaus would have snitched eventually my guy loves drama. Or Damon would have realized, or Tyler or even Rebekah if she was undaggered. Or Katherine, even.
I was not surprised by Caroline's behaviour 4-6 given that she is a control freak, so of course she would want to know everything and influence on everything so that things could happen the way she wanted them to. I think she just reverted back to her season 1 character.
Elena is kind of a saint, because how does she handle being in a close friendship with someone who is always competing with her? It sounds exhausting.
I didn't understand why she was always the centre of all love triangles (other than the main one) given how annoying she was. It would've made much more sense if Bonni was the centre of it. But Caroline is Julie's self-insert and Julie is a racist piece of shit so no surprise there either.
The Steroline situation was kind of weird for me. I'm not even talking about how she was mad at him for taking time to mourn his brother who he was really close to. They just don't fit in together, not like Stefan/Rebekah or Stefan/Valerie. They just don't click for me, because in their relationship I always sort of felt like he was settling. If Elena had decided she wanted to be with Stefan again (s6, s8 - doesn't matter when) he would have jumped at the opportunity or at least that was what it felt like to me. I'm not saying he didn't love her, he did, but I don't know it just didn't make much sense.
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i won't get super into the d*lena vs stelena discourse bc i think everything has been said before but i just finished watching all 8 seasons and I'm trying to rewatch the first 3 again bc they're the only good ones before it gets taken off netflix, and it's genuinely wild to me how the show that starts with d*mon murdering people for fun every episode and doing everything in his power to ruin stefan's life ends with stefan sacrificing himself and d*lena getting together. like narratively it would make sense if d*mon were to make up for all those years of mistreatment by finally stepping aside and letting stefan be happy, and it would also show that he truly loves elena by allowing her to be happy. i hate the whole redemption by death plotline but if it was going to happen it makes so much sense for it to be d*mon. why did stefan need to die, when he spent every episode paying for every mistake he made, paying for everything his brother did, always cleaning up his brother's messes, putting his happiness on the line for his brother. when so many of his "sins" weren't even his fault. how do you spend 8 seasons watching a character put everyone else before himself and then end it with him dying for everyone else?? how is that narratively satisfying at all? the show starts with him trying to finally be happy, trying to put everything in the past and live his life, dreaming of being human, and instead of, i don't know, making him get to be human and finally have that happy life, they were like nah let's kill him and give that life to d*mon who has done nothing to earn it.
(i won't even get into how elena deserves so much better, how perfect stefan and elena are for each other and how them both being humans and living together happily would have been the perfect ending to both their stories)
stars this show makes me mad. the finale was one of the worst things I've ever seen but you know what it's fine in my head season 3 is the end of the show and stelena is canon the end.
#anti damon salvatore#anti delena#stelena#stefan salvatore#anti steroline#anti tvd#also the fact that the show starts with dmon assaulting caroline and ends with them hugging when he never so much as apologised to her is#disgusting
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stefan: ur a control freak who's lost control!! thats what love is!!
me: BOOOO TOMATO TOMATO TOMATO
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So... Is there a Klaroline fic out there which takes up after Stefan hurts Caroline with his constantly putting her second? Maybe after Valerie had entered the scene? And Caroline gives him and Mystic Falls up to take Klaus up on his promise and it suddenly dawns on Stefan that he's lost the best thing that ever happened to him.
Can someone please help me find it or write it?
Credits to whomsoever owns the pic
#klaroline#caroline forbes#klaus mikaelson#klaus x caroline#klaus and caroline#anti steroline#anti stefan
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here’s to the female characters (including queer women, woc, disabled, or other minorities) who were constantly hated on and disrespected for the sake of an m/f ship (especially the fanon ones)
#anna speaks#camille o'connell#hayley marshall#lexa kom trikru#valerie tulle#echo kom spacekru#and those are just the white women yikes#even they sustained better treatment than these#bonnie bennett#aya al rashid#gia#iris west#anti klaroline#anti haylijah#anti steroline#anti snowbarry#anti delena#anti bellarke#aya x elijah#gia x elijah#becho#klayley#klamille#westallen#bamon#it's perfectly acceptable to dislike a character based on personal opinion#but a lot of this behavior is based on misogyny and racism when it comes to m/f ships :p
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I'm convinced julie went into writing vampire diaries 💯 a book delena fan and that effected the show anytime she had a opportunity to write or come up with ideas that's why she had such a obsession with damon kissing Elena over katherine until Kevin Williamson convinced her otherwise she wanted insta delena and was more then willing to put stefan with Caroline in the beginning if she got her way that's also why there was no big connections with bonnie and damon like the books
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I won't be offended if you prefer to delete this but your post about Tyler had me thinking...
Caroline really made his grief over his mother dying about her so much so that she issued the worst ultimatum and left herself with...
A drunk old man that used to be her teacher.
A long time friend that never seemed like he got over Elena and definitely has codependent issues with his brother so much so that he sacrificed himself willingly a day after their wedding.
And a power hungry hybrid who gave her money he could more than afford to give and said pretty words but also tortured, enslaved and killed people she was connected to....and also definitely had codependent issues with his brother.
I cannot fathom it.
All true facts. It’s late here so a meta! :D
As a huge Forwood shipper and I’m equally very critical of them. It’s a great ship for them both at first, then becomes a ship only for Caroline’s needs and development which isn’t fair to Tyler That Klaroline/Steroline shadow made those fans believe Tyler was the worst Caroline could get. When in reality he was the BEST romantic partner and friend she ever had.
What upsets me more about that ultimatum that Caroline FORCED is that she’s the only one we see comforting Tyler after Carol’s death. Even before Carol died, and Tyler was skeptical about being alpha she uplifted him and Tyler heavily respected what she had to say and went full force with it. Mind you, this is the same Tyler that broke every bone in his body just to be with Caroline. Then re-agreed to slavery for Care. Forwood communicated with each other and called out their faults. The other tvdu ships weren’t doing that!—then we get this full arc of Caroline’s grief and remember she bluntly told Tyler to get over the fact that she hooked up with Klaus because of her impulses and she’s not good1!!1
The series wanted to bury Forwood and they did so in the worst ways imaginable. Caroline gets pregnant with Alaric’s babies forcibly. (I understand Candice was pregnant but they could’ve hid her belly so Caroline wasn’t pregnant.)-Oh and we can’t forget Alaric was in love with her and proposed.
Steroline was supposed to follow the friends to lovers build up the way Forwood did and it never appears that Stefan is all in the way Caroline is. Tbh, even before the wedding Stefan wanted out the relationship he tried multiple times to end things in s8. Caroline refused and wanted it to work. Building them up after Liz’s death was a choice. Stefan manipulated Caroline heavily to when it came Tyler and their relationship.
Klaroline has no obstacles to pass with them. Klaus may give Caroline pretty things, and money but emotionally he’s never shown to give Caroline any support. When Caroline saves Bonnie from those 12 witches which is her first huge kill(correct me if I’m wrong) since s2 she immediately goes to Klaus and he basically tells her to get away from him. Klaus mentions how she’s too good for that small town but Caroline had never said she hated her home. What she did hate was Klaus grown ass destroying shit. They never had a serious conversation about anything tbh. I did enjoy how Caroline called him out at first but TO’s “you aren’t the villain in my story.” Ruined that. Oh and lol these shippers get on Damon for his rape of Caroline yet somehow, someway excuses that Klaus attempted to rape Caroline too in Tyler’s body…. Anyways! I do think a lot of Klaroline is rooted in Klaus wanting control over Tyler, and Caroline is a way to exert control over Tyler because of his love for her.
Okay this is long af, sorry! To end this off Tyler loved Caroline for who she was. He never wanted her to change, he valued and respected her. Never abused her or anyone she loved. He listened to what she had to say. Caroline’s other love interests NEVER saw her the way Tyler did. Btw, I wish people understood Tyler never, not once slutshamed Caroline for having sex with someone else. He was only mad that she slept with Klaus as if Klaus did not ruin Tyler’s life and murdered his mother. There’s obviously a reason Caroline didn’t want Tyler to know and continued to ignore the boundaries he placed up in s5 so they could just go back to the way SHE wanted them to be. It’s sad they were ruined because 5B of Forwood has moments where you can forget their broken up just based on Forwood’s chemistry. I forgot to add, some fans pretend Tyler couldn’t give Caroline a good life. Tyler wasn’t financially struggling, and would’ve done anything she asked of him. I think it’s a little problematic that Tyler did say everything he liked about himself was Caroline lol. But, he wanted nothing but her and their happiness. Just without the enslavement from Klaus.
Thank you for the ask!
#Forwood#tyler lockwood#Caroline Forbes#Anti Steroline#Again stefan died to be free of that relationship bless that man heart fr#anti klaroline#anti stefan salvatore#anti damon salvatore#anti klaus mikaelson#driaresponds#sevensistersofsussex#Tvd#the vampire diaries#a lot of you k c e r s lack media literacy because Tyler never cheated on Caroline btw :) Klaus manipulated Caroline into thinking other :P
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Steroline and Cangel should have remained friends (even though I seen the Cangel friendship as forced since they hardly interacted on BtVS and Cordelia still had trust issues due to the Angelus S2 period) since they function better as friends than lovers. Caroline would be #2 to Stefan while Cordelia would be #3 to Angel since Buffy is #1 because duh and Darla #2 because of Connor. Caroline and Cordelia deserve better. Plus Angel left Buffy for reasons, which kills the whole Cordy&Angel were meant to be narrative in AtS Season 3. It makes it insensitive since Buffy was brought back from the dead against her will.
#anti steroline#anti cangel#stefan x caroline#cordelia x angel#caroline forbes#cordelia chase#stefan salvatore#angel#the vampire diaries#angel the series#bangel#dangel#stelena#buffy x angel#darla x angel#stefan x elena#meta#male female friendships#buffy the vampire slayer
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Love making these!
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