With the whole anti-Daemon agenda Condal and Hess have going, I am surprised they didn’t pile on him more lies and bullshit told by his enemies in the book.

Let’s be real here. The only death which Daemon might have had something to do with pre-war in actual canon, was Laenor’s (and there’s a lot of grey area here too).

Let’s recap:

1. Rhea Royce: in canon, she died nine days after she fell off her horse. You would think that if Daemon had done something to her, she would have said something to someone in those nine days she spent suffering. Whether or not Daemon was in the Vale at this time (many claim he was in the Stepstones), is irrelevant. The guy got lucky, that’s it. He wanted to be rid of this long and unwanted union and the Gods granted him this wish.

2. Harwin Strong: the idea is even more absurd than the one previously mentioned. At least with Rhea, Daemon could have had true motive. What motive could he possibly have for torching Harrenhal and murdering Lyonel and Harwin Strong? Harwin had been invaluable to the City Watch, and Lyonel was a very decent and loyal Hand.

The only thing that could determine Daemon to do this would be jealousy. Jealousy that Harwin was rumored to be Rhaenyra’s lover and the father of her three sons.

But do you honestly expect me to believe that he went through all that trouble, and created such massive destruction because he was petty? He had nothing to gain from Harwin’s death.

But you know who had something to gain? The Greens. They got rid of Lyonel Strong to place Otto Hightower back in the very influential position as Hand of the King, and getting rid of Harwin managed to hurt Rhaenyra (as a plus).

3. Laenor Velaryon: there are two theories here and I kind of think both are possible. Either his lover killed him out of jealousy, or Daemon arranged to have him killed so he could marry Rhaenyra. I am more inclined to believe that Daemon arranged it, however there are a couple of things that still bug me:

Corlys is Daemon’s best friend. Would Daemon risk his friendship with him in such a way? You would think that Daemon and Rhaenyra are both smart enough to realize that if they marry soon after Laenor’s death, the Realm would whisper that they had something to do with this death. And if Corlys and Rhaenys both believed these rumors, they would have broken off relations with Daemon and Rhaenyra immediately. And so, the Blacks would have lost the Velaryon support.

But that’s not what happened. Corlys and Rhaenys both stood firmly by Daemon and Rhaenyra from start to finish.

So, it is very possible that Daemon might have gotten lucky again, and Laenor died in the right moment. And since there was no point wasting time, Daemon and Rhaenyra married after only a few months, standing firmly against the Greens.

Bottom line: Condal, stop trying to turn Daemon into a villain in a desperate attempt to make a certain faction look better.

HOTD has made many interesting choices in their adaptation of the story of the Dance. One of their favorite excuses for many of their questionable choices is "feminism". Why did they remove Alicent's ambitions and autonomy? Feminism. Why is Rhaenyra less proactive and hesitant? Feminism. Why are Daemon and Otto the primary active agents in the lead up to the Dance? Well women can't be in the wrong or violent, so feminism.

These choices are the farthest thing from feminist; they're sexist, end of story. Every decision surrounding the women of the Dance reeks of benevolent sexism. One of the most obviously sexist decisions made is the purposeful removal of female cooperation and friendship.

Rhaenyra in F&B has many female allies and friends. Her ladies in waiting loved her so much, one of them, Lady Elinda Massey gouged out her eyes at the sight of Rhaenyra's death. Lady Jeyne Arryn, Lady Alysanne Blackwood, and Lady Sabitha Frey/Vypren are just a few examples of ladies who fought for Rhaenyra (Alysanne and Sabitha literally fought in battles). Lady Fell chose death over betraying her oath to Rhaenyra.

Now, we haven't had any opportunity to meet most of these women I listed in the show. Lady Fell was portrayed as she was written in the book, a very minor character who simply foreshadowed how most of the realm would choose Rhaenyra over Aegon. Elinda Massey, however was reduced to an unnamed servant, not even a lady in waiting. Her treatment is an echo of one of my biggest issues with HOTD, the treatment of Laena and Rhaenys.

Laena was Rhaenyra's dearest friend in the book, in fact it's implied that they had a romantic relationship. Whether you believe that telling or not, it's undeniable that she and Laena were extremely close. They chose to betroth their children while they were infants, Rhaenyra flew to Laena's bedside during her final labor, and she stood vigil with Daemon over Laena's body.

All of that closeness and intimacy was removed in the show to make room for Alicent. So let's break that down: they removed a long and healthy relationship between two women and replaced it with a short-lived (in terms of screen time) friendship that quickly fell apart and turned into an intense rivalry. Reinforcing an old stereotype of female friendship: that it is entrenched in rivalry and toxicity and can quickly be turned to enmity. Alicent was so quickly and easily turned against Rhaenyra and it's even implied that she was jealous of Rhaenyra long before they became enemies.

Rhaenys in the book was an ardent supporter of Rhaenyra. She happily claimed Jace, Luke, and Joff as her grandsons, advised Rhaenyra to go to war, and gladly flew against Aegon and Aemond.

Meanwhile, in the show, Rhaenys was turned into one of Rhaenyra's rivals. She constantly challenged Rhaenyra's ideas, dismissed her as a naive child, disliked her children, and even considered backing the Greens. On top of that, they turned her into yet another "peaceful" woman. She advises against the war, and seems to continue to do so in season two. Rhaenys is virtually unrecognizable in the show. They chose to take a woman who tried to prevent a younger woman being wronged by the patriarchy the same way she was and turned her into a bitter woman who resents Rhaenyra (for most of the show).

HOTD claimed to have wanted to tell a story about how the patriarchy pits women against each other. That's all very well and good, but that's not what they actually did. They took a story where a woman is wrongfully usurped because of her gender and is supported by many other women and turned it into another tired female rivalry story.

Rhaenyra has no female friends aside from Alicent. Laena was turned from her dearest friend/lover into simply a rival for Daemon's affection. Rhaenys was turned from a supportive mentor and defender to someone who took out her resentment for the system on a fourteen year old who only starts to support her when she's proven "peaceful".

HOTD chose to perpetuate a harmful stereotype about women: that we constantly view each other as threats/rivals and can't have truly healthy relationships with other women. Rhaenyra had women who supported and cared for her in the book, in the show all she has is Alicent. A woman who abused and undermined her for ten years, raised her children to hate her, and usurped her. Every change HOTD made in the name of "feminism" solidified just how sexist it really is.

Everything we've been deprived of...

“HBO put out feelers on public opinion and noted Rhaenicent wasn’t popular”

I think this needs to be clarified: it’s not that Rhaenicent isn’t popular, it’s that no one cares about Rhaenicent. From a PR standpoint that’s actually worse, people watched S1 and didn’t view Rhaenyra and Alicent as star crossed lovers who were forced to separate due to evil men.

Olivia wasn’t drawing people in with her interviews about how HotD is all about Alicent and Rhaenyra getting back to each other. When the first two posters were released people weren’t screaming #Rhaenicent instead they were tweeting #GreenQueen, #BlackQueen, #TheOneTrueQueen, #TeamGreen, #TeamBlack etc.

House of the Dragon isn’t a love story, people aren’t watching for the romance, they want to see two factions fighting for what they believe. Ryan was so confident his Rhaenicent telenova would be the talk of the town he was blind to public opinion. Fortunately HBO isn’t, they’re going hard with Greens vs. Blacks for a reason.

I mean, what did they expect? A relationship that lasted five minutes to be the focus of the fans?

I really hope they focus on the actual conflict next season.

The HotD showrunners and HBO making the Dance about Rhaenyra and (OOC "Poor Baby™️") Alic*ent instead of Rhaenyra and Aegon is fucking nauseating.

Alic*ent was the main villain in starting the war, along with her father. She was the ambitious narcissist, she was the grown woman bullying a child (Rhaenyra), she was the one drugging her husband with her father to keep him plient. Now she and Rhaenyra are the same age, former Besties With Crushes who were torn apart by Awful Men, and now she's Tumblr's and Twitter's little patron saint of Stolen Girlhood™️ who p8cks her nails and cries all the time who big Boo Boo Eyes and thinks Viserys wanted Aegon to be king at the last minute?

Aegon and Rhaenyra were the victims of this war first and foremost. (Until they both started committing war crimes.) This war should be about them. But it's not because FEMINISM! Women must always be victims of men, and never the other way around! 🙄

Aegon is exploited by his own mother, grandfather, little brother, and bodyguard. Aegon took the throne because he was gaslit into believing it would protect his wife, his children, and his brothers, not because Mommy made him do it. But now these shit writers will likely just make him a Mad King type for their Baby Ali to pick her nails and cry about, and for their Baby Aem to huff and roll his eye about and act like The Nobel Son (which he never was).

the man who was obsessed with nyra and the ex “friend” who lets her delusions and lies that are pretty obviously untrue from her father guide her rather than common sense are the ones who need to stay away from rhaenyra especially when you consider that in canon (the book) that Criston first came into Rhaenyra’s life when she was like 7 or 8 and even Alicent said “ser Criston protects rhaenyra from her enemies but who protects rhaenyra from ser Criston”

Also both book and show Rhaenyra were the ones mistreated and abused in the rhaenyra/alicent relationship but I’m happy that this goon at least doesn’t ship nyra with her stepmother-exfriend-abuser-usurper. And Alicent and her doe eyes and victim complex who can never be criticized or you’re “victim blaming” her is more of a Mary Sue.

HOTD was a mistake.

Game of Thrones if it was written by Ryan Condal and Sara Hess: Cersei and Catelyn are in love, the show is all about them getting back to each other.

give this pairing to a fanfic writer and we’ll have a well-written 200,000 words story by next week, condal and hess on the other hand? cersei is now a religious nut whose father manipulated her when she was 15 and her fans refuse to let her grow past that, she abhors incest and anything related to it, she's a dutiful wife to robert but secretly pines for her lost love catelyn whom she's shown to have max two conversations with. all of catelyn's children are now bastards that she's passing off (and fuck her for doing so, am i right? we don’t condone bodily autonomy in this universe 😠) cersei spends the years since their fall out (obviously do to the big bad evil men controlling their every decision) trying to get said kids executed but don't worry though! catelyn doesn't actually give a shit about any of her children and is willing to throw them all away for a childhood fling, and so is cersei!!!

i hate the show :)))

i find it funny that rhaenyra's first love was alicent as if daemon wasn't her true first love, she wanted him ever since she could remember.

also not that one tweet saying that rhaenyra was professing her love for alicent by sparing her because she was her father's wife, like erm....

because as we know it, despite how spoiled or entitled rhaenyra might be, she is merciful, merciful to want her siblings back instead of quickly wanting to kill them like... rhaenyra isn't a kinslayer though this fandom thinks she is, it's her brothers that is.

ryan condal istg if you make this scene romantic, i swear watch your ass because that's where my foot is going if you do.

Let's just admit that Aegon+the velaryons boys exist just to make Aemond looks better, Jace who was described as tall,strong and skilled with the sword can't even punch his edgy teenager uncle?? Lmao Ryan was never subtle with his self-inserting

I mean, out of all the characters - and I mean ALL. He's the only one who has something that resembles an arc? Bullied kid who gains power and grows stronger and more confident because of it. Thinks he's more worthy of the inheritance and titles only to ultimately make a grand mistake that would lead to a bigger downfall.

Now, think what character arc important people like Rhaenyra, Alicent, Daemon get and you'll see how blank your mind will be.

Whatever claims Ryan makes in any further interview i won't believe that Aemond isn't his favourite and basically his OC in this fanfiction adaptation.

I think the crux of how they ruined Alicent Hightower in the show and how that thing in the show is hyped up as the most 'nuanced' character ever is because fandom always confuses nuance with sympathy. They think the character is nuance because she now has a sympathetic victim backstory they can relate to and again another damming thing. The need of modern audience to relate to a character is just making characters more and more flat and the flatness is praised as good writing because these flat characters are used as conducts for feelings. Alicent Hightower should have been an antagonist, not a crying a doll and she is probably the character in the show that was ruined the most. She is a Sympathetic Sue and her lack of agency is never critised because modern audience can't stand not relating to characters or being in the POV of a character that contradicts their ideas or make them uncomfortable, such as it would have been if Alicent had been the child abuser she was in the book.

From TV Tropes:

This version of Mary Sue is often put into action by authors who think that a character can be made likable by writing them as The Woobie. Her life is packed with Deus Angst Machina either in her backstory or in the actual story she is in. She collects tragic events the way normal people collect baseball cards. And she is written with the sole intention of making you feel sorry for her. Like most Mary Sue subtypes, they can be male or female, but generally tends towards the latter since women are perceived to be more sensitive and vulnerable.

A good angsty character's emotional pain is never stylish, and does not necessarily involve weeping and wailing. People deal with pain in many different ways, usually by becoming trapped in one of the Five Stages of Grief. If they do resort to self-harm such as cutting themselves, it's not glamourised. And like any normal person who is grieving, there will be a justifiable reason for it, because when pain is great, talking about it is therapeutic and keeping mental anguish bottled up inside can be very unhealthy and result in severe problems later on. And the grieving will be because the character is actually in pain, not because they are trying to get sympathy from the audience.

However, justified angst can also be Wangst if the character grieving about it is out-of-proportion, and whether the grieving is out-of-proportion depends on the situation.

Their feelings of guilt will make sense, usually because of psychological scarring. Perhaps, just perhaps though, they were responsible for something that happened to someone else and are dead on with their remorse. They might have tried to do something to relieve the pain in the past, even if it failed. And canon characters do other things as well as comfort the angsty character. Even after the angst is gone, there's still a story to be told.

There isn't a story to be told with Show Alicent, especially now that the show robbed her from her biggest moment, which was assembling the Green Council and usurping the crown. If they wanted angst with this character, they could have waited until the war ended and all her line was dead.

Hi!What do you think about Aemond from the show so far?

Don't you think they've made him more sympathetic than he should be?

Especially when there is a contradiction between what the actors say and what Ryan says.I don't completely remember what Ryan said, however I remember him saying something similar about how Aemond was supposed to grow up to become a great leader but him getting bullied and lost an eye has destroyed the possibility of it. While the actors (Ewan, Olivia) have called him psychopath, simple as that.

Hi! I definitely have an issue with how they whitewashed Aemond on the show given that I've read Fire & Blood, as well as how Condal want us to see him.

Aemond is introduced to us in episode 6 as a lonely boy, the outsider in the group of kids since back then Aegon apparently got along with Jace and Luke, and because he's the only one who doesn't have a dragon. Our first introduction to his character is when Aegon, Jace and Luke made that cruel pig prank. Obviously, everyone is gonna feel for him unless they're cruel themselves. I don't have an issue with the scene itself, but the fact that they chose it as the starting point for Aemond's character. Because it seems that his entire personality, his reactions, his choices are all based from this, which is bad writing. Yes, it had consequences on him, it's not uninteresting to explore this. But who was Aemond before? A nice kid? No, he wasn't. Everyone who has read Fire & Blood could say he didn't become a psychopath because his big brother and his cousins once made a cruel prank. However, chosing this as the starting point for Aemond seems to be a writing choice to introduce Aemond as a victim.

The next episode is the turning point for Aemond. We first see him talking with his brother about Helaena, telling him he would marry her if their mother had betrothed them, that it would strengthen the family and keep their Valyrian blood pure. He also tells Aegon that Helaena is his future queen, which gives is more insight on what happened among the Greens off screen: the treason is, as everyone knows, already planned since Helaena can only be the future queen if Aegon if the future king after Viserys’ death. Aemond doesn’t have an issue with usurping Rhaenyra, but he does have an issue with being the second son and not the one who will be king.

Then, Aemond claims Vhagar, and fights with the four other kids, which led to the loss of one of his eyes. I talked about this here: Alicent had been telling their sons they’re trueborn Targaryens and that Jace, Luke and Joff are bastards. Aemond, conceived between two married people, with a Targaryen father, one of the sons of the King and Queen of the Seven Kingdoms, doesn’t have a dragon. Rhaenyra’s sons, conceived out of wedlock, with only a Targaryen mother, all have a dragon. Alicent is surprised their dragons’ eggs hatched, both because of her religious beliefs (they’re the result of adultery) and because of misogyny (since Aegon, Aemond, Helaena, Jace, Luke and Joff both have only one parent with Valyrian blood, the only difference is that her children have a Targaryen father). But somehow, Rhaenyra’s bastards as his mother call them are worthy of a dragon while he’s not? So when Aemond manages to claim Vhagar, this is literally the best moment of his life. He’s not just worthy, he’s better than them because not everyone could claim Vhagar, this legendary dragon. And those bastards had dared to mock him when he’s clearly superior to them? Of course he welcomes the opportunity to confront them when he lands. The girls who just lost their mother aren’t important either: he’s become the bully here and can insult them too. It’s his turn. Jace and Luke want to defend them? They’re nothing. They’re bastards, and he’s just proven he is more worthy than them, he is a trueborn Targaryen unlike them. He enjoys the fight, especially since he’s still feeling the adrenaline rush after riding Vhagar.

I will note that they did whitewash him in that scene too, since he attacks 3 years-old Joffrey in the book, but anyone watching the scene can still see he’s not a poor victim. In the next scene, we see he does care about his mother when Viserys demands to know where he heard that Rhaenyra’s sons are bastards. He looks at Alicent first, who’s absolutely terrified (and for good reason), and says it’s Aegon.

Episodes 8 and 9 are pretty on point with who Aemond is too: after everyone made an effort during the last family dinner with Viserys, he choses to start another fight with Jace and Luke. He teams up with Criston Cole to find his brother, and those two were also fighting together in the book. Ever since episode 7, they started writing Aemond pretty much like his book counterpart. But in episode 10, Condal made a mistake by relying on another accident, when they had the opportunity to keep writing Aemond as the person he truly is. That’s even when they do at first, when Aemond demands that Luke gives him one of his eyes for his mother and he then follows Luke on Vhagar. His intention seem, at first, as clear as in the book, but Condal decided that it was more “nuanced” and brought “more depth” to Aemond’s character to make it an accident where Aemond tries to stop Vhagar.

Aemond is first introduced as a victim, because they chose that cruel prank for us to discover his character on the show. And his finale scene in the first season is an accident, where he’s a victim of consequences because Vhagar doesn’t listen to his commands and is the one killing Luke. Not only is it terrible writing to rely an accidents as Seth Abramson pointed out in his review, but Greens stans keep thinking of Aemond as a victim, who became a bad guy because he was bullied for years as the writers said (where is it on the show? nowhere), but not a psychopath. Proof being that even after what Luke did to him, he didn’t really want to kill him.

Condal said in his interview with The Hollywood reporter that:

Aemond is definitely not blameless in what happened to Luke. But Aemond was also a kid who was bullied and was made a mockery for part of his life for not having a dragon. Now he does, and he rides the biggest dragon in the world. I think he was showing his rival that he will not be intimidated and trifled with is probably more in play there than trying to become a kinslayer – that would be very un-calculated and stupid of Aemond to do at the outset when the pieces are moving about the board and loyalties are being set and figuring out who is going to make marriage pact to guarantee whose army …  for Aemond to launch nukes right out of the gate and go for an all-out dragon war would be very foolish, but that’s exactly what he ends up doing because things get out of hand and out of control. It’s a complex scene. Aemond is not blameless, but he’s also not a psychopath without a logical line of thinking.

He doesn’t see Aemond as the psychopath he is in Fire & Blood, but as, again, a victim of bullying, and as a very smart character. However, Condal also changed his own version of what happened in his interview with Variety as, once again, Seth Abramson pointed out in his review:

Between one sentence and the next, Condal suddenly (a) denies that Lucerys’ death was an accident (suggesting that Aemond exhibited some sort of criminal mental state preceding Lucerys’ death, whether purposefulness or recklessness or negligence) but then (b) insists that Lucerys’ death was “not... what Aemond intended” and that it is because we’re supposed to assume Aemond in no way wanted Lucerys dead that “it adds complexity and nuance” to his character. So which is it? Either Aemond is the sort of young man who knowingly took actions that would lead to a death or he very much did not want that death to occur and did all he could to stop it; it is not possible for complexities and nuances to be drawn out of his character in the midst of such wildly unproductive vagaries. As literary critics have known for many decades, ever since the New Critics of the early to mid-twentieth century, there is a wild gulf of difference between ambiguity (which can be both narratively fraught and generative) and mere vagueness.

What I’m taking from all of this is that a) Condal doesn’t seem to know what he’s writing himself, b) he seems to love Aemond and just as Alicent “misunderstanding” Viserys’ last words to her, he’s absolving another Green of his responsability with another “accident”, and c) the fact he and Hess kept repeating that Daemon isn’t a hero (we know, we’ve read the book) makes it seem like they want, just like most of Aemond’s stans, for Daemon to be Aemond’s foil instead of the opposite. Because in the books, Aemond has two main traits: being a psychopath and being Daemon’s foil (I talked about this previously). Meanwhile, I don’t know what Olivia said, but Ewan did describe Aemond as a “whole other monster” (source). Both Ewan and Matt seem to be the only ones who don’t say a lot of crap in interviews, honestly.

With all the “accidents” that the show-runners have invented in favor of the Greens, I think it would be pretty fair to have them done for the Blacks too.

Like for example, Daemon is angry about how much Rhaenyra suffers after the loss of Lucerys. He vents about it to his former confidant, Mysaria, who “misunderstands” Daemon’s intentions and arranges B&C. And then, when Daemon finds out, he goes 😱, then expresses how much he didn’t want this, oh no!

But of course, since only the Greens can have three “accidental” murders done in cold blood, there isn’t much room for bad fanfic writing in the Blacks’ favor, so they’ll have to go with canon.

I am betting Condal will forget about Daemon and have Rhaenyra herself arrange B&C with Mysaria, because of course, a grieving mother has nothing better to do than start discussions about vengeance with none other than her husband’s former mistress. Makes perfect sense.

And above all, I am 100% sure that the showrunners will abandon the idea that Aegon throws a feast in celebration of Lucerys’ death, so that he can retain the title of “victim daddy” who lost a child he didn’t give a damn about while he was alive.

And of course, him calling out for war in retribution for his son’s death is perfectly alright, as opposed to Rhaenyra’s desire to get justice for the murder of her own child, because Rhaenyra is a woman. She is not allowed to do anything that makes her seem less than perfect.

the showrunners are all so tg its insane

Yeah, I think Condal tried to disguise it a bit when season one first came out, but he's really just letting it all out now. What the fuck is he planning on doing that will make us "consider switching sides"?

I don't understand people who claim he and HoTD are biased towards TB. They made Rhaenyra be completely inactive politically outside of that one small council scene. They took Jace's interests and gave them to Aemond. They made Daemon kill Rhea, even though in the book he wasn't even in the country. They made Rhaenys and Corlys be completely unsupportive of Rhaenyra, when Rhaenys was her biggest support in the book. They removed Baela and Rhaena's personalities in favor of spending more time on the greens. They turned Laenor into an absent father who chose to abandon his children (biological or not, they were his sons).

Meanwhile, the greens get a majority of the screen time. Alicent is turned into a perpetual victim who refuses to help herself or her children, even though she's the second most powerful person in the realm. Aegon is made to be a "sympathetic" baby with daddy/mommy issues who rapes women because "he doesn't understand consent" (yes, Hess literally said this). Aemond is made to be a poor bullied baby who is actually just so right to be king, guys! Helaena is made into a dreamer yet still has no bearing on the plot other than "sad victim".

The plot itself suffers sooo much because Condal and Hess just had to make the greens into a bunch of poor innocent babies. The greens are the most cartoonishly evil Targaryens GRRM has ever written. But of course, if Condal and Hess are going to ignore the fact that Daemon is meant to be a gray character (GRRM said he's the grayest character in F&B), why wouldn't they ignore how completely shitty the greens are (with the exception of Helaena, who we know nothing about).

We're going to rehearse for the deaf. HOTD is not the unveiling of the truth about Fire and Blood. The two are very different events. The series is not the book. The series has its canon, and the book has its own. (And sorry but the book is the real canon, and hotd is just bad fanfiction for me) Nothing changes that. And it's not because GRRM has accepted the events of the series that he see them as being a reflection of the book. He said it himself, the two, the book and the series, are different things, who have nothing together. So stop mixing the two to fix your disgusting vision of certain characters.

Also, I'm tired of people claiming that HOTD is a great feminist series, when it's quite the opposite. The story of the book can clearly be seen through a feminist lens. But not the series which takes away all their autonomy from the women who in the book were the masters of their desires and decisions.

Do you have sources inside HOTD production? I am just wondering, since you said you heard that they wanted B&C to rape Alicent...

Oh, no. I just read it somewhere some months ago. If I had sources inside HOTD I would have found a way to meet Ryan Condal and yell at him for his stupid decisions.

AEGON & HELAENA ARE LITERALLY THE SUN AND THE MOON! HELAENA EVEN WEARS SUN & MOON JEWELRY AND A DRESS OF BLUE & GOLD! YET WE ONLY GET THOSE CRUMBS, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY SHOVE THAT BLAND BULLSHIT HELAEM0ND DOWN OUR THROATS NEXT SEASON?!? A HATE CRIME, I COULD VOMIT!