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stick-named-figure · 1 year

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♣️(the hollowheads)

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oughhhh anon you’re so real. this is really long. it has citations. i got a little carried away 👍

hollow head angst

dark

i’ve been thinking about her cause i’ve seen that head canon post and stuff, and then that other post on whether or not dark’s removed that line of code. like, if it’d been her own free will that she did everything in ava 5. like just. man.

plus, even if she did remove that line of code, i don't think it'd just be over there, y'know? like. dark showed up with a personality and everything once alan made her. suddenly having a innate need fulfilled doesn't make the behaviors for seeking that go away. from my own experience, it can make it feel worse for some time ("my needs are fulfilled, why can't i feel satisfied with it?")

that actually makes a notable argument for why ava 5 might've happened, because if dark did remove said code but still felt that destructive urge, she'd no longer want to destroy chosen (because having removed that code in the first place implies that she didn't want to either) but would instead have to find some other outlet for it. when the line was deleted would change exactly how i interpret the flashbacks in 5, but overall it seems to make sense.

maybe missions can break when a stick goes beyond that mission, like some sort of cutie mark shit or something. i think it's certainly a point that could be seen, though i'm not sure how to word it more seriously atm. it would also make sense, considering if dark's mission was to destroy the chosen one, she likely had plenty of opportunity to do so in their travels throughout the internet.

chosen

chosen represses shit! like, whether it's out of a sense of duty or just… because, we actively see chosen ignoring their trauma at the hands of alan to go after the virabot.[1]

we also know that chosen was upset with dark after having come back from ALANSPC (whether that was anger or sense of duty or something is something i haven't decided on yet) because they punch her across the bay. but the thing about all of it is that chosen seemed to legitimately believe that just saying "don't do that" would stop dark from… destroying the internet or whatever she was trying to do. which implies that that's worked before.

they just. seem to have (had?) some close relationship. or maybe i'm just over-reading it. idc. i think they have a close relationship and i think that showdown completely obliterated it (if dark is still alive). i hope she is, because she's my little meow meow but like also there is a lot of angst in her. not being.

also this has nothing to do with angst but while i was rewatching AVA 5 to verify my ideas and i think it's very important that

orange

i’ve gotta write about it more or something but i like to think that there’s a cultural gap between orange and the fighting sticks, and/or purple and king. there’s ALSO this gap between orange and alan because. one is a stick figure and the other is a real human being.

i do believe that it’s part of why orange is so attached to the fighting sticks, not to mention that orange doesn’t know that many others. like, 4 (5 including alan?) close friends is not unusual, or uncommon (or a small number), but to only ever see 4 others is a very small amount of people to be social with if sticks have similar social needs as humans.

so there’s that, and then that orange and the other sticks we see seem to operate very differently. like, being a hollow head at all comes with different physiology.[2][3]

it just makes sense to me that there is that feeling, that they have trouble relating to other sticks AND to alan.

plus, that separation anxiety that orange has. oh man. that terror that their friends will be hurt if they’re not there for them. orange has always been like that, like the “you ended my friends. now i will end you.” or the first nether arc, or ava 5, or parkour. can you imagine the way orange felt when they watched the nether portal disappear in episode 25?

not to mention that orange takes on all this responsibility for their friends, like, electing NOT to go through the other nether portals in season 1, and they probably feel to blame for showdown too! they externalize the blame[4] but while also taking responsibility, like, bad things happen to orange's friends and it's their fault for not going with them but it's ALSO their fault for having gone those places at all. y'know?

world building

good lord i can not contain myself about this. i have a lot of ideas and implications that i've picked up from watching this series like, probably 3 times total with some episodes (V, 22, 25, 29, 30) receiving… a few more rewatches than that.[5]

like… "how" things come to life definitely seems to be kinda… in proximity to the color gang (and then, by extension, alan). it ALSO doesn't seem to be uncommon for things to just. come to life.[6][7][8] i haven't particularly decided on some exact way of how things become alive but i definitely have a soft spot for it being toy story-like.

a lot of the apparent differences between sticks and humans is kinda… frustrating? to me because the reasoning behind it seems inconsistent at times. i also haven't fully fleshed out my ideas to make up for that disconnect and i'm a bit reluctant to like i said because i worry about it being completely bulldozed by future information.

i've said it before and i'll say it another hundred times but how human the stick city sticks are compared to sticks who are on desktops keeps me up at night. like they have festivals and concerts and money. (and also a legal system, because we see king sign a waiver). i suppose the legal system would likely emerge without the festivals and all that because social contracts are generally useful for large groups of people.

in more… solid answers i think there's a great deal of metaphors centered around the fact that they are made of code and (often) drawn. for example, in one of my fics, i use "draws on their emotions" as a saying intended to be similar to "wearing your heart on your sleeve." i'm still skeptical of the sticks having clothes in like… a very "i am taking it literally (autism)" kind of way, since unlike many stick figures in say, hyun's dojo, the sticks in ava/m are literally stick figures. i suppose my art only partially reflects that but it seems just a little too silly for me to paint the sticks being wire thin with my style.

but i'm digressing. the point i was making is that i don't want to talk about sleeves and hearts that might not exist at all for stick figures and so by extension i came to the idea that "drawing" and similar metaphors often mean that someone is being especially clear or obvious. i'm sure that i'll discover more figures of speech to use in the future, since wordplay is something i love very dearly.

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[1]: Chosen recognizing ALANSPC in AVA V

[2]: Basketball

[3]: Color Confusion

[4]: Lush Caves

[5]: last night i realized ive watched the king like. at least 10 times.

[6]: Alan's conversation with programmer021 in AVA II

[7]: Stick Figure Rights (stickslavery.com) in AVA III

[8]: Alan's conversation with Darren in AVA IV

#answer #ask game answer #anon #self post #avm #ava the dark lord #ava the chosen one #avm second coming #avm orange #anon i'm so sorry i don't think you asked for a cited essay but you got one anyway #musing

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bbnibini · 2 years

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the thought of barbatos beginning the official distrust of demons in solomon's case (other than asmo being asmo--i believe solomon might've seen him as a lost puppy rather than an actual threat to himself) is so interesting and i can't believe i haven't thought about it before! barbatos had already been tricked into a life-binding contract with diavolo, so making another life-binding contract shouldn't be something he was excited about, right?

barbatos & solomon act pretty distant towards each other, too. the new event where barbatos brushes off the fact that solomon is human, barbatos changing the subject when solomon asked if he mentioned him in one of the hard mode lessons, barbatos agreeing with solomon when the topic of pacts being purely business-related during solomon's birthday ur...

maybe you're onto something! although i'd also like to believe that there is some inkling of trust between the two, given that they witnessed each other at their most vulnerable(?). solomon was dying and barbatos was summoned when no one else should've been able to, given his status.

in my personal experience, twitter in general just isn't as fulfilling as tumblr is? i don't mean to scare you off of there, but the drama that goes on there within the obm fandom is in far greater quantity than on here ;; so much so, many people have been leaving the fandom there left and right. don't get me wrong, it's nice to be there for art & writing inspiration, but sometimes seeing an abundance of ignorance & constant bitterness doesn't bode well for your well-being.

to truly enjoy (obm)twt i feel like you'd just have to post self-indulgent things and you'll eventually gain your circle of people who also enjoy it? even then, the algorithm there can be horrendous to newcomers...

the premise is similar to any social media site, only that i highly encourage to not look as deeply within the fandom there unless you're very picky with who you follow and are prepared to block a fair amount of people. so far i think you've been doing great! spam-posting is something that can get other peoples' attention quicker, especially if you're someone they enjoy receiving content from. ^^ if you're seen to be enjoying yourself then i'm sure others will enjoy that too!

Hehe you're welcome! I think Solmare purposely left these things vague for our own interpretation. There's some conflicting information about Solomon and Barbatos actually, because if you recall S3 in the Serenity Manor, I high-key remember Barbatos saying he trusts Solomon hence why they have a pact (this is also the same scene where he friendzones MC hard haha). Then there's Solomon who also shares a group chat with Barbatos and Asmo called Invocatio where they seem to talk like good friends who care about each other.

Twitter in general just has that vibe, I think. I did own a Twitter two years ago, but I didn't really know how to use it. Things update so quickly, it was overwhelming for me so I deleted it. Thanks for looking out for me though! (If you're not comfortable for us to follow each other back, that's okay! I just thought you wanted a follow back since some people followed me but I don't know which one of them are you). I prefer using AO3 for my fics. Crossposting in Tumblr is tedious but I find it a lot more forgiving (albeit annoying because coding is my nightmare lmaoo).

I don't really participate in drama nor entertain it so I don't really know much, nor care to know much. The worst that happened to me in the few days I remade my twitter was a random person who said they liked the black-haired Solomon I personally commissioned from an artist better if he had white hair but that was easy to just hide, block and ignore. I've had worse (getting weird HC requests that forced me and my friend to put boundaries in our old request box, getting plagiarised more than once,etc etc). Frankly, I'm just here to love Solomon in peace (pun intended). He's hated more than enough in the fandom. I'd be more than happy to find the 10 people who appreciate him in the bird app though if I find the opportunity. xD

#ask #3vocatio #obey me

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