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#WHY ARE YOU SHIPPING A MINOR AND ADULT
delusional-mishaps · 23 days
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i dont understand how i keep accidentally following proshippers how does this keep happening i hate it here 😭😭
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verathena14 · 1 year
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please dont get mad at me this is just for fun asdfghjk
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lanshappycorner · 6 months
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Sometimes I look outside my scope of mutuals and I'm like.....I'm glad I'm not them (whole essay in the tags)
#im going to ramble about a very touchy subject here but it pertains to 🐉♠️ which i am very open about shipping#apparently its Problematic or whatever 😭😭???? according to Some People#you know ive been thinking abt this for a while now but people really like spouting rhetoric abt how this or that is problematic without-#-really considering the specifics of why things are bad. things being bad are not the same as things possibly being uncomfortable#like people have an aversion to adult/minor ships or incest ships because these are real and tangible things that happen and are disgusting#i do feel like people have freedom over what they want to consume/create in fiction although those topics are an ick to me and i avoid it#but also you have to understand people dont like it primarily because of the realistic aspect of it and how it connects to reality#not a one to one but because reality already has these preexisting issues we naturally have an aversion to it#you cannot apply the same logic to like a dragon man x human ship because a dragon man is not going to scoop you from the sky#the ramifications of shipping an immortal and human are nonexistant and do not pertain to reality and cannot be judged on the same scale💀#well beside from the logic 🐉 is old in body but his mind develops in the way a fae would. and he is described to be young in fae#so up until now i assumed the normal assumption was to say that he is around ~18 in fae yrs by how he interacts with others in his yr#🐉 is like old in the way where hes lived for a long time and understands the passage of time#but hes processed it through the lens of a young person hence why he can come off as immature despite how old he physically is💀#like are we playing the same game?? if he was a well adjusted fully developed adult with a complete understanding of the world and stuff#like idk trein. none of the events in ch 7 would be happening. its kind of like a huge part of his character that despite his physical age#he IS still learning as he IS still young#i could go into a analysis of his character but thats for another time </33#anyways i see people . primarily young people. telling their mutuals you can or cant ship this and that#and im like its okay to not like ships if you personally find it uncomfortable but to police ur friends...for ships that arent even 'bad'#its insane to me...how do u live like this?#people really need to start thinking about the nuances and why things are the way they are in regards to fiction#instead of buying into that weird pr*ship/ant*ship thing 😭 ive always hated it its so dumb. my university professors wouldve hated it#theres no nuance like...none. personally i also think its why people have low reading comprehension these days too tbh#life is about looking at various viewpoints and coming up with your own opinion#not 'picking a side'💀 learn to form your own opinions. talk to people around you about it. do not constrict your opinions to black/white#its an extremely dangerous mindset to have even outside of literature and it makes you very susceptible to dangerous ideas/propaganda#anyways what im getting at is learn to have educated discussions with others and come up with your own opinions instead of picking a side#btw there is no right/wrong side in literary discussions. there is no good/bad side either. whatever you come up w someone will disagree#thats why its important to just believe what YOU believe in (and not parrot others💀). and also be open to change
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devilfruitdyke · 1 month
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I HATE FANDOM WANK YALL ARE UNHINGED. VERY NEGATIVE BTW
#post (bad) was like 'adults need to take responsibility for what kids see online even publically posted fanwork'#it INCLUDED the sentence 'parents should monitor their kids internet more' and implied that people arbitrarily designated minors#dont have the impulse control to not look at content with warnings#all of this is not fucking true. children are people#and then every note arguing with the original post is like 'can we not have ONE SPACE without FUCKING minors... 😮‍💨'#'why is our responsibility to raise peoples kids for them' 'this implies that non kid friendly content shouldnt exist'#the last one is 100% true for the record but i think what yr getting at is that this random 'antishipper' on the internet#is responsible for like. sesta/fosta. no lmfao get real#and EVERY ONE OF THESE NOTES. is still fully accepting what the original post posits#that people arbitrarily designated minors are unable to resist barging into fan spaces#this is not true. kids are actually able to display the required self control in most cases#it doesnt come from a material condition of being a teenager. it sure as hell doesnt come from lack of brain development#people under 18 (age chosen by the government) are not easily impressed animals who just cant resist looking at triggering things#and then like. start whining about it because of their delicate constitution#the people you are talking about have every marker of 'adulthood'#theyre just a convenient pawn for yall to bitch at each other about shipping fictional characters#thats the only capacity that some people give a fuck about children in and it shows.
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rohirric-hunter · 5 months
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baking-cha05 · 2 years
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This has happened two times today
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5qu1dink · 11 months
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i hate seeing proshippers have the best takes and image sets like NO i’m not gonna reblog from you bc i Hate You and everything you stand for but goddddddddd.
i hate censorship too which is whyyyyyyyyy i can say i want you dead
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i feel like ive said this before but the self ship community is either the sweetest most accepting community there is or a hell of harassment and pr-shipping which is um. interesting to be a part of👍
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carefulvenom · 1 year
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i remember a couple years ago i came across blogs that were dedicated to hating characters. the url was usually something like “anti-character” so i found out that there’s people called antis, but i only knew them as people who strongly disliked like. a marvel character. a tony stark anti, or something.
so i made a post about how i think it’s silly to dedicate a blog to being an anti. i then found out the hard way what anti is primarily known for!! i was shocked because no, why are you asking me if i’m proshipping an underaged character with an adult?! what?!
first and last time i spoke about that
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goliraz · 2 years
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I feel so bad for the artists on Humanz with how the community responded. I can't imagine collaborating with a band that probably influenced your childhood and then seeing crowds of people say the album you were on would've been better off without you. I'd be gutted. And people in the community during Humanz were like that, too. They were a lot more vocal.
Yeah. I mean the attitude and hate and inescapability of white fans during the Humanz era as a prson of colour myself was basically what drove me out of the gorillaz fandom for 2+ years LOL & I cant imagine what it was like for the musicians
it really makes u understand why Benjamin Clementine doesn’t speak well of collaborating with gorillaz. Man gave some of the best vocals on the album and then had to put up with being shat on so constantly by fans it (among other things gorillaz didn’t handle well) ruined the collaboration for him.. & then he got (white) gorillaz fans telling him that gorillaz gifting him the collab gave him millions of new fans and to (verbatim quote) ‘know your place’ when he said collaborating with them was a mistake
like no bloody wonder he’s not jumping to collaborate with them again
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boydykedevo · 2 years
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Salt warning for the tags
#disclaimer all headcanons are valid I’m just being an ass about one I personally dislike if you do like it good for u I sincerely mean that#anyway I get why ppl like to see Am.ber as De.vo’s mother figure#like I’m well aware shipping them puts me in the minority I’m chill with that#but honestly i just can’t see him wanting a mother figure. his last one sucked and I don’t think he would take kindly to a new one#he has issues with authority. ESPECIALLY mother figures. he doesn’t want another one.#he wants to be seen as an adult. he wants to be an equal to Am.ber.#that’s half the reason he’s pissed at her. cuz he feels like she doesn’t see him as an equal.#and I don’t think she WANTS to be a mother figure. i don’t think she would be good at it. she’s clearly NOT good at it.#she doesn’t want to mother him. she gets annoyed whenever she feels like she has to.#i love their relationship. like it’s really interesting. obv I like the idea of it being romantic but even in canon it’s great#but she’s NOT his mother figure. that’s a read that goes against so much of the text.#i think people just see a group that could be a found family (not YET they aren’t that for sure)#and try and fit them into nuclear family dynamics.#which is BULLSHIT. the reason found family is great is cuz it gets AWAY from strict definitions of family. FUCK!#also something to be said about an older female character being immediately assigned the role of mother but that’s for another time#anyway salt over.#isfs
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The 12 yr Henry Danger tictoker is back at it again.
First they was making Piper X Henry ship edits and now they've moved on to making Henry X Drex ship edits now. Honestly, I can't tell which is worse.
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I’m not trying to attack you, but do you know that proshipper means someone who supports and romanticizes pedophilia, incest, and abuse? Your reblog on that post seems to read that you think antis just hate on people for having ships they don’t like. But it’s completely different than that. Just looking on the proshipper side of Tumblr and the internet and you can see people happily shipping children and adults and making nsfw content of such things.
i appreciate that you're not being outright hostile, but i have to say, that on its own put you above basically every anti i've interacted with.
i understand where antis are coming from, i really do. there are a lot of things on the internet that make me deeply uncomfortable, including the minor/adult ships that you mention. i don't want to anything to do with those kinds of ships and i would be happiest if i never saw them again. which is why i'm proship.
nine times out of ten, if i see that kind of ship brought up on my dash, it's because i was following an anti without realizing it, and they brought it up unprompted and untagged, to talk about how bad it is that they exist. they are the ones putting that kind of content in front of my face and making it harder to avoid.
the thing about people who ship those ships is that they're generally very aware that not everyone wants to see that kind of content, and so they tag it. they make sideblogs to talk about it. they don't go out of their way to shove it in people's faces. that means i, and everyone else who doesn't like it, can avoid it.
what antis want is for it to not exist at all. they want the tags to be purged and blocked, and for anyone who uses those tags to have their accounts deleted. and sure, that might get rid of some of it, but do you know what would happen to the rest? it would stop being tagged. people who don't want to see it wouldn't have the tools to avoid it. this isn't just a hypothetical, that's what's happened any time a fan space has tried to do that.
that's not even getting into the rabbit hole of what should be banned and what shouldn't. obviously any content that depicts real children or real life abuse shouldn't exist and shouldn't be allowed to be posted, but basically any platform that people use already enforces those policies, and there's not much of a slippery slope to go down there. if it involves real living breathing people being abused, it's bad. end of discussion.
but the same can't be said for fiction. ask ten antis for a specific list of all the content that should be banned, and you'll get ten different answers. what about kink? what about roleplay? what about horror and murder and anything that involves fictional characters being graphically tortured? what about people using art to process terrible things that have happened to them? what about art that uses dark themes as a horror element? if you just want to ban anything questionable to anyone, that's the line of thinking that gets any mention of lgbt existence banned. and again, this isn't just a hypothetical, this has happened before, and that's generally where it leads.
i know, from personal experience, that antis do, in fact, send harassment to people just for shipping things they don't like. i've gotten accused of absolutely vile shit for shipping two fictional characters who were both consenting adults. i've seen ship wars turn into moral battlegrounds, over ships that an average person wouldn't bat an eye at.
the thing about "romanticization" is a whole other can of worms. the anti logic goes like this: if someone sees something (even if it's very obviously fictional) in a positive light enough times, they will start thinking it's okay in real life, and go on to hurt real people. the problem with that is that it's just. blatantly untrue.
if it were true every horror movie fan would be a serial killer, every person that studies dark media would be an unhinged psychopath, and everyone who is into ddlg would be a pedophile. but they're not. they just aren't. people have directed movies just as fucked up as the darkest shit on ao3, and are still capable of being normal human beings who know right from wrong in real life.
even if someone is that impressionable, scrubbing away the existence of every piece of questionable content isn't going to solve their problem, because they're still going to be vulnerable to con men, scams, and cultists. the only thing that would actually materially help someone like that is developing their own morals and critical thinking.
children are also more impressionable, and there's a lot of content that's not suitable for them, but that doesn't mean that content shouldn't exist. it just means that they should stick to spaces designed for them (which most social media sites, tumblr included, are not) or, if they're old enough to be responsible for their experience online, they, or a trusted adult in their lives, should block and filter out things that they aren't comfortable with.
which is what everyone on the internet should be doing. it's what i do, and it's made the internet a much more pleasant place to be. and it's why i sometimes worry for antis mental health, especially teenagers, because they're being told it's right and moral to seek out content that makes them uncomfortable and to engage with the people making it. and that's just. really bad. it's not good for the creators that they're harassing obviously, but it's also really bad for them! it's not healthy to seek out things that make you feel bad, and it's a terrible internet safety lesson to teach minors that it's okay for them to seek out and engage with people making adult content.
individual harassment and crusading is never going to succeed at removing dark content from the internet. it just isn't. at best you might get a small percentage of people who create that content to stop sharing it, at worst you're just going to make people stop tagging it, and either way, you're exposing yourself to things that make you feel bad, when you don't have to.
if you want to materially change the type of content you see, you can. the block button is your friend, use it liberally. same with content filtering and tag blocking.
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spacee-pirate · 1 year
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scarriestmarlowe · 2 years
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proshippers stop treating yourself like an oppressed class lol
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