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kakunamatatq · 7 years

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New VLD S2 Trailer (Released January 5th) Thoughts

Found here. Season One spoilers natch

0:00-0:25 is reused footage with a new Allura voiceover.

0:25-0:44

Zarkon: There is no place in the universe beyond my visions reach. Set a course for Voltron.

Shiro: Zarkon keeps finding us. It's like he knows how to track us down. Pidge: I don't know how he found us, but it wasn't with normal instruments. Allura: It is nothing on the ship.

So apparently it's not some sort of tracking device in Shiro's arm or in Red like I had initially thought, but Zarkon's ability to... astrally project (?) himself and locate them, possibly via his connection to the Black Lion.

There was some debate over the season 1 finale re: whether Black rejected Shiro because of her former alliance with Zarkon or if it was done to save her new paladin. I'm thinking it's both, but perhaps Zarkon hasn't even needed to be in such close quarters with her to (ab)use that connection.

0:45-0:52

Shiro: Everyone, stay alert! [there was a splice between this line and the next because when Shiro's looking back at the Garrison Trio on the bridge Hunk's awake and without an apron] Hunk: *wakes up from sleeping on the bridge because he's stuck in the comedy relief role half the time but given how heavy the last trailer was some levity is nice* What'reyougysdoingwhat'reyouguyslookin'at?!? Keith: *wearing nothing but a towel and... boxers? Swim trunks after a swim date with Lance in the pool they found one day while randomly exploring the castle* You woke yourself up snoring. Hunk: My bad. orz

The syncing on Keith's line is kind of wonky so I think that clip was switched around for fanservice purposes.

0:54 You can see the back of what I'm assuming is a rebel Galra soldier (who is not Thace, alas) But right before that you see Zarkon moving hIS CENTRAL FUCKING COMMAND SHIP THROUGH A HYPER JUMP BEHIND THE CASTLE OF LIONS FUCK

0:55-0:56

Lance: They found us again?! How is that possible?! That doesn't seem possible!!

idk lance but i'm scared too

0:58-1:02

Zarkon: Attack that castle with everything we've got! CAPTURE VOLTRON!

Zarkon emoting the most he's ever emoted in the series so far. Sounds pretty pissed; the only other time that sticks out in my mind is right before he about to finish off Keith and Red in the season 1 finale and Shiro and Black swoop in to save them he lets out an audible gasp of surprise. The blast ended up doing nothing to him but he was (seemingly) actually caught off guard there.

1:03-1:05

Shiro: Everyone to your stations: This could be the fight of our lives!

Right in the middle of that statement we see four of the five lions launching into action with the next five seconds being dedicated to showing them in combat. Red is mysteriously absent.

The the SDCC trailer was framed as if Keith was taking up the mantle of leader and Shiro was either dying or going MIA for some reason (e.g., Captured by Galra, kidnapped by some sort of mystical godlike being based on that last shot, etc.) The former is highly unlikely; his encounter with Haggar was meant to mirror the one in the original GoLion! series where his character was murdered, but he survived it here ala the original Voltron, albeit with quiet a nasty-looking wound. In addition to showrunner comments about wanting to make a show where character death would not be a common occurrence (can't find the quote atm), I'd say all of the core cast is going to make it to the end of the series. Tangent time: I've seen a lot of comments about Shiro dying so that the team ends up reflecting the original GoLion!/Voltron line-up of Keith being the leader and piloting Black, Lance switching from Blue to Red, and then Allura piloting Blue. The difference being, from what I've seen and heard about the original series, the lions were interchangeable. They were merely vehicles for the human characters to do their own thing without any personality. In the reboot, the lions are still mechanical, but also magical and alive. They have a magical/spiritual connection to beings whose quintessence matches up with their own and mirrors their core qualities. Keith had tracked down Blue in the desert, but he couldn't get close to her because his quintessence and her quintessence did not sync. It's Lance who triggers the cave to open and for Blue to let down her shield. Now while it's possible for people to change over time, such as Keith becoming more friendly and embodying that aspect of the Blue Lion, I highly doubt there's going to be any major shift occurring in the line-up. It goes against the theme presented in Shiro's statement in "Taking Flight" upon Pidge revealing her (not-really-a-)secret to the cast.

Shiro: Pidge, owning who you are is going to make you a better Paladin.

...and by extension, a better, more-rounded individual. That and it just isn't practical for Allura to pilot a lion. Ignoring the skewed gender ratio of the Paladins, which I can understand why people would want to switch up (dear god give us more named female characters please), Allura pilots the entire castleship. Coran can take over for her when necessary and has done so multiple times already, but only she is able to really connect with it and the lions, personally set up by King Alfor (which I sort of question but whatever it is what it is). Her energy is integral in producing wormholes. Coran states in the season 1 finale that the ship can make those jumps by storing enough of her residual energy, but we don't know how it's acquired and stored exactly, and it doesn't seem like a feasible method to rely upon in combat, which the castle regularly participates in along with the lions. Again, Coran has piloted the ship by himself when the need has arisen, but it really is at least a two-person job (really like a 100+ person job but they're working with an extremely stretched crew.)

That still leaves us with the question of why Red is absent here. Around the 0:53 mark of the SDCC trailer, we see another shot of these four lions heading into combat, and based on the scenery we can assume they're part of the same scene. It's clear that the team reunites relatively easily (in that they won't spend the majority of the season forcibly split up) and that it's not Keith piloting Black (unless Shiro's voice wasn't actually meant to be paired up with those clips of Black) leading the team on a mission to rescue Shiro and Red, but Shiro and the Garrison Trio (most likely) going to rescue Keith and Red.

1:10-1:13

Allura [voiceover]: We are always stronger together.

Whooooa this looks like a very metaphysical scene here. Again, the SDCC trailer made it look as though Shiro was absent (leading @akaashiaesthetics to try and nobly fix the situation), but he's seen in a from-behind group shot of the Paladins.

1:14-1:16 -NEW WORLDS- Followed up by a shot of Hunk and Lance in Space!Atlantis, a shot of what I'm assuming is one of the aliens helping out Pidge not initially when she falls out of the corrupted wormhole into the trash nebula but later on when she's on some sort of foresty planet (seen around the 0:20 mark in the SDCC trailer; whether that's in the same episode after a failed attempt to leave the nebula or if it's after another separation from the team, I’m not sure), and finally a shot of Shiro being attacked by a Space!Dinosaur in what I'm assuming is the first episode of the season where he and Keith are stuck on some sort of rocky planet but who knows.

1:17-1:20 -NEW ALLIES- Keith is shown helping a (most likely) Galra soldier out of a smashed ship and then fighting alongside them against a... giant mass of speedy organic material? Dunno about that part but I'm 99% sure it's a Galra soldier. It could be another species we haven't met yet, but it's looking like the same person at 0:54, who hopefully is a Galra resistance fighter/rebel alliance member/something because jesus do these kids need allies with connections

1:21-1:27 -NEW VILLAINS- Not sure if that means there's another force strong enough to oppose the Galra Empire who also has less-than-noble-interests in Voltron or if they're sub-bosses of a sort, but Voltron punches one tf out and then another one has Lance?!

1:28 They're fighting Cthulu? In a box??

1:29-1:31 Astral projection of Zarkon versus... ASTRAL PROJECTION OF SHIRO HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHIRO OBVIOUSLY ISN'T GOING TO DO ANY MAJOR DAMAGE BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTENSE AND AMAZING FIGHT (love the animation there)

1:32-1:59/End is just letting people know when the new season will be released and links to clips from season 1.

I’m excite

#Voltron #VLD S2 #VLD S2 Spoilers #Voltron Season 2 #Voltron Season 2 Spoilers #Long Post #KM Komments #VLD S2 Trailer

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appsa · 3 years

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v*ltron to catradora pipeline- thoughts?

Big sigh. Yeah it was real. If i recall right she ra had come out somewhere in the long hiatus between vld s1 and s2 or between s2 and s3 so i remember a subset of the vld fandom was hyping up she ra cause ppl were reeally paying attention to dreamworks announcements at that time. Jdhskdj i remember ppl posting the trailer telling others to keep an eye out for when she ra s1 came out like... thats why i decided to watch it. Sksbdk hate 2 say it but i was literally on that pipeline

#can u believe i nearly stopped watching she ra at princess prom bsvdkfbf #the dip happened and i was like WAIT OKAY THERES SOMETHING HERE #and then promise Changed my brain chemistry at the tender age of 17 and i was like....#klance WISHES it were this good #ask #spop #man i miss jules wheres my vld to spop pipeline bestie 😔

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yourockthebeatofmyheart · 7 years

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But like Do they even TRY and look for Shiro??

#voltron #vld spoilers #why does the trailer make it seem like they all just went #'welp. that happened.'#still kind of mad about s2 i'm not gonna lie

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topazpearl · 7 years

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u bet ur bottom dollar going to read into every detail about the composition of this shot

#this is the only shot we see of the crew they picked this image for a reason #i was right about the s2 trailers with there being a keith focus #im gonna guess keith's going to be focused on in s3 too #voltron #voltron legendary defender #voltron season 3 #vld wondercon panel #keith #pidge gunderson #hunk #lance #allura #coran #ramblings

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czqy · 4 years

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2019 fic round-up

so around sept/oct I realised I’d written/posted at least one fic every month so far, so I wanted to finish the year off that way as well! here’s a full list of everything I’ve done this year :)

all links direct to their tumblr posts which provide more detail about each fic

january

5. post canon vld fix-it: chapter 4 (klance)

10. post canon vld fix-it: chapter 5 (klance)

11. todoroki’s birthday (tododeku)

february

2. weapons upgrade (klance; one-k one-shots)

4. lunar new year (huanyang; one-k one-shots)

10. future (klance; one-k one-shots)

17. waist touch (catradora)

18. photographer/model au (klance; one-k one-shots)

20. memory loss (catradora)

26. dabi is a todoroki (dabi & shouto; one-k one-shots)

27. second person (catradora)

march

1. shiro’s birthday (adashi)

6. dance au (catradora; one-k one-shots)

14. lifeguard au (klance; one-k one-shots)

22. hands (asheiji; one-k one-shots)

april

1. national team (iwaoi; one-k one-shots)

27. music (klance)

may

nvm I just realised I don’t have anything for May can we pretend this never happened

june

1. hurt/comfort (todobaku; detonate my heart)

17. keychain shorts: chapter 1 (todobaku; detonate my heart)

july

4. in chinese (todobaku)

10. mdzs s2 trailer reaction (wei wuxian & jin ling)

august

14. cuddling (todobaku; detonate my heart)

24. breakup (todobaku)

september

2. bnha 241 reaction (todobaku)

30. hq 367 reaction (iwaoi)

october

14. realities (kagehina; one-k one-shots)

24. power couple (klance)

31. halloween (todobaku; detonate my heart)

november

19. mapo tofu (bakugou & others)

24. beach day (klance)

december

5. keychain shorts: chapter 2 (todobaku; detonate my heart)

22. kageyama’s birthday (oikage)

28. hair (todobaku; detonate my heart)

#2019 was a wild year it was my final year of high school and i managed to do all this as well #i'm v happy :)#here's to an even better 2020!#(i seriously hoped i haven't missed anything)#wowclunawrites #wowclunatalks

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leakinghate · 6 years

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Lets B-b-b-break it Down

I got me a cam vid of that NYCC trailer for VLD s8. Wanna tear it apart with me?

Cool.

Major SPOILERS below the cut. Not joking. This is like, all the spoilers. Every single spoiler that currently exists regarding VLD s8 is discussed below the cut.

1. The trailer starts with rainbow colors flying by as if we’re traveling through a tunnel in space. Honerva fades into focus center screen, her eyes are closed and she’s outlined with a purple-pink glowing aura. The colors in the background transition to a starscape. A few scenes transition in and out overlapping with each other and this one in visibility.

2. Honerva/Haggar in a hospital bed - reminiscent of her flashback from s5e2. Two figures stand at the foot of the bed, probably Zarkon and the doctor from the s5 flashback. Kova sits atop her where she is reclined.

3 .The doctor is holding baby Lotor; he is crying. It appears that the doctor is attempting to prompt Haggar to hold her child, but she is turned away, eyes open and unresponsive.

4. Adult Lotor is on his knees, his back to us, watching a planet explode. The view draws back and Haggar and Zarkon can be seen watching him. None of their faces are visible. It seems likely that this is the destruction of the mining colony Lotor told Allura about while they were in Oriande.

5. The screen whites out and we’re in a new scene. A Galra cruiser can be seen in the Patrulian Zone, approaching the White Hole.

6. A crowd of at least 23 Alteans are in Oriande, standing on the walkway in front of the temple, facing it. The walkway is framed by 4 (possibly 6 with 2 partially obscured) visible White Knight mechs.

7. A White mech is crouched, holding its spear vertically, surrounded by a pink glow. It fills the screen.

8. A shot of Honerva from the chest up, her arms out to the sides, face stern and teeth grit in concentration. Pink energy rushes around her, partially obscuring her at times. She flashes through four different faces of herself: her Haggar look from the end of s6, Honerva pre-rift, what is apparently her new look for s8 as the Altean Commander, and one we have yet to see in context. Her unknown look is potentially herself as Empress of Daibazaal; she appears to be wearing a pre-rift empire uniform with a prominent ‘V’ on the chest, and she wears a crown reminiscent of Allura’s with a large, dark, diamond shaped crystal in the center and two extra points in the band above her temples.

9. Allura stands on the deck of the Atlas at a teleduv terminal, back to us. A wormhole sparks into existence out the viewport in front of her. The image fades into one of a different Altean - probably Honerva - standing in the same position in Oriande. They appear to be on the walkway in front of the temple facing away from it. The walkway appears to descend down a set of steps in front of them with a crowd of Alteans at the base of these steps watching on.

10. Two paladins are flying through space into something that is spilling out streams of blue-white light. Their feet are towards us and it is difficult to see them clearly. The one on the left is Hunk, the one on the right is probably Lance but may be Allura. The view zooms into the light. it resembles, but is not identical to, the phenomena encountered by the paladins in s7e6 - that ultimately transported them near to Earth.

11. Honerva in pink light flickering between her forms is briefly on screen again.

12. Voltron is diving downwards through several rings of clouds along the path of a bright pink-white beam. there are floating rocky islands viewed from above going past in the background. The scene is pink tinted. This may be in Oriande.

13. The Green Lion is dodging pink-white laser blasts in the foreground. The landscape is rocky and grey with a large base of some sort taking up most of the background. The base appears to be the same color scheme as the white mechs we have seen. It is white with pink lights reminiscent of the ones found on Empire structures. The base is mostly low-lying with a large double pointed tower in the center. Several large claw-like towers surround it in what looks like a ring, the curve inwards towards the center. At the very end of the clip the Blue Lion can also be seen.

14. A low view below a group of 4 people watching Voltron ascend upwards towards a large glowing pink-purple vortex. The people’s pointed ears mark them as Alteans. The sky is starry behind the clouds. Voltron disappears in a flash of white light.

15. The Robeast Myzax from s1e3 ‘Return of the Gladiator’ appears. Four of the lions, Green, Red, Yellow, and Blue, fly past it from right to left, firing and dodging its attacks. The lions appear partially transparent and phantom-like. The Robeast is solid, but shaded predominantly purple. This looks like it takes place in the astral realm or something akin to it.

16. From inside the Atlas the doors open, showing a figure silhouetted against a landscape far below partially obscured by clouds. The figure is wearing a spacesuit and helmet that look reminiscent of Garrison tech in color scheme. They have something across their back from their right shoulder to lower left side with lights on it. The landscape below them is green when visible and dominated by a base with a white and pink color scheme. It looks like the same base from the clip with Green and Blue; we see the same double pointed tower in the center of a ring with four spokes leading to it. One claw-tower is briefly visible.

17. The Atlas in robot form swings its arm forward and an MFE fighter launches from it. The camera follows the fighter as it flies across space towards the White Hole where it joins several other fighters in combat with a White Knight mech. The mech is firing pink lasers and holding its double ended spear. It appears to be guarding the white hole and a circular glowing pink structure that has been built around it. The circle is firing three continuous beams out into space from equidistant points along its circumference.

18. Voltron is fighting in the pink and purple sky of Oriande bearing double swords. It launches ten missiles, five from each leg.

19. A White mech is crouched, plunging its spear into the ground in a green field full of pink flowers. The field looks like the juniberry one we have seen in projections of Altea and in the Dome Romelle was found in. Pink light glows from the spear’s point of contact with the ground and the edges of the green field grow dark.

20. Eight blue-white object rocked across space trailing light, they converge in a circle where they halt in a circle surrounding a much smaller object too far away to make out. There is a structure of some sort floating in the far background in front of a glowing pink-purple vortex in space.

21. Five of the space pirates from s6e3 ‘The Way Forward’ stand atop a cliff looking cool. The one at the front is Zethrid. Immediately to the left of Zethrid is a cloaked figure dressed differently from the pirates. The figure appears to have a tail. The figure appears to be the bounty hunter that Pidge and Matt fought in s4e2 ‘Reunion’.

22. We see Honerva from behind with her hood up; she’s inside a structure of Empire build, with purple walls and pink lighting. She lowers her hood and turns around; she’s wearing a crown made of dark material with a large diamond shaped yellow crystal in the center. The crown itself is reminiscent of the headgear Zarkon wore in s1 & s2. She is glaring and looks displeased.

23. A pink-white laser beam is impacting a rocky planet causing boulders to float into the air. A person is mostly obscured in the foreground; the brown cloak and longer shaggy light-brown hair suggest that this person is Matt.

24. Two paladins in the middle-distance stand in a grey and dead looking forest, skeletal trees rising around them. The paladins appear to be Pidge and Allura. Pidge sinks to her knees on the ground, leaning forwards with her hands on the Earth.

25. Three aliens of an unknown race kneel on the ground, their eyes are closed and their hands in contact with the earth are glowing. The landscape is rock spires with veins of glowing blue crystal. An enormous blue crystal glows in the background. It looks similar to the scenes we observed on the Balmera back in s1 and s2.

26. The Altean from the end of s7 sits on a hospital bed, knees drawn up to her chest with her arms wrapped around them. Her head is bowed and her gold eyes are open. She is wearing her space suit and has a sheet covering her legs. Wires run from her arms and back going off-screen.

27. A large crowd of mixed garrison and Coalition members is gathered around the table in the conference room at the Garrison. Shiro and Veronica stand at the head of the table. At the side of the table best visible sit, from right to left, Keith, Allura, Hunk, Lance, Coran, Romelle, and Iverson. Behind them stand the MFE pilots; Rizavi, Leifsdottir, Griffin, and Kinkade. Pidge can be seen leaning in on the opposite side of the table, but most of the others on that side are either obscured or have their backs to the viewer. Slav and Bezor are on the near end. Other recognizable characters in the crowd are Krolia, Kolivan, Vrepit Sal, Nyma, Olia, Matt, and Matt’s mysterious masked girlfriend.

28. Voltron is floating in space in front of a wrecked and derelict Galra cruiser. It appears to be a debris field of some kind with something large glowing in the background.

29. Allura and Lotor are somewhere inside a Galra structure with purple walls. Allura is in the foreground, slightly out of focus, facing forward, and only visible from the neck up. She is wearing a Garrison uniform and her expression is shocked/horrified with her eyes wide and her mouth closed. Lotor stands behind her, in focus, he is turned to the side looking towards Allura and down. His expression is resigned and sad. As the shot pans, Allura is more to the right side and Lotor is more central.

30. A section of a transformation sequence of a purple-toned mech we are as yet unfamiliar with.

31. A clawed hand comes to rest on a glowing ball of light secured in something. This looks like it may be part of a control interface.

32. Honerva is in a spacesuit looking determinedly into the camera. Her eyes start closed and when she opens them her irises are glowing yellow-orange like fire.

33. The Black Lion is flying towards an enormous mech that is silhouetted and partially whited out by a blinding light behind it. The mech is really huge, it reaches out a clawed hand to either grab or block Black and the hand is the size of the Lion itself.

34. A panning shot of Shiro looking heroic in a new black and white Garrison-styled uniform. He looks really good. There are at least five people standing behind him but two are obscured, the other three are Coran, Veronica, and Romelle. They are in front of grey-white panels - probably the Atlas.

35. The Atlas in ship form is floating horizontally across the mouth of a cave which people are exiting out of. Our view is from inside this cave which is a dark rock veined with glowing blue crystal. Small full crystals litter the ground. There are at least 23 people in the crowd, and they look to be from an as yet unknown alien race. They all have their backs to the camera.

36. Five Alteans are inside the Atlas around the ship’s crystal, one hand each stretched towards it. The crystal is shooting a beam of light upwards and the Alteans’ eyes are glowing yellow. The Alteans’ hair is blowing back from the force of the energy radiating off the crystal. Two of the Atlas’ crew are also in the shot, braced watching the action. Both are wearing Garrison uniforms but one is human while the other is a Unilu coalition fighter than has been seen but unnamed in prior seasons. The Alteans in the shot are the five in white and green uniforms in the NYCC poster that was given out. This is very interesting, as these five are unambiguously allied with Honerva according to the poster, yet whatever they’re doing in the clip is apparently in accordance with the crew of the Atlas. Seems that at some point these characters are convinced to switch their allegiances.

37. A very brief shot of eight large objects arranged in a circle floating in space. Glowing, sparkling light connects them and a beam is being shot from each towards the center of the circle. It resembles the spokes of a wheel. Whatever is a the center of the formation is glowing too brightly to be seen.

38. Five lights illuminate and flare on the headpiece of a new, previously unseen mech. The shot zooms into the largest, central light before it changes.

39. Several shot in quick succession that look to be happening in an astral realm of some kind. Pidge’s face looking alarmed. Allura swinging her whip to block a laser blast. Hunk holding his bayard weapon as the screen floods with yellow light. Lance firing his gun repeatedly while he screams.

40. Keith in the Black Lion’s cockpit as he’s hit by something. The ship rocks and pink-purple lightning flashes all around him. He recovers and shoves the right hand control arm forward.

41. A pink shield parts and an ominous pitch-black haloed mech extends an arm with massive scythe-like claws. It fires a blast of pink energy from its hand. Sincline is visible partially obscured on the left side of the screen, at the black mech’s right hand side. Something is not right with it, as all of its external lights apart from its eyes appear to be dark. A white diamond shaped structure reminiscent of the architecture in Oriande floats between the two mechs, with a second one just barely visible at the bottom of the screen.

41. Honerva appears in a cloud of black smoke between the feet of a mech. She is wearing a space suit. The scene is painted orange by what looks like a sunset. The mech may be Sincline, as it has a tail, but the design looks slightly different than what we saw in s6 - though it’s possible that time spent in the rift may have altered it. This scene was luckily released as an HQ screencap for promotional purposes!

42. Voltron slashes through two structures orbiting a planet with its double swords. The two structures simultaneously explode. Interestingly, it appears to have both it’s booster wings and the double swords activated. Combinations which have, in-show, required Keith & Lance, and Lance & Pidge respectively to use their bayards. On closer inspection, the ‘swords’ may in fact be a single spear, similar in design to the ones the White mechs have been observed to wield. What combination of paladins this requires has yet to be seen, but if I had to guess I’d say it may be Pidge & Allura - as Allura was shown to have proficiency with a staff in season 2.

And that’s the trailer!

How exciting. Let’s see what we can make of this, shall we?

43 scenes, I’ve numbered them for easy reference.

Some of them are fairly self-explanatory - the Garrison ones are likely first or second episode and connect with the end of s7. Those would be 27 and 34. I’m also going to include 26 in this group, as the surrounding architecture seems to be in the Garrison color; it also makes sense that the Altean would be placed in a hospital-like setting after being freed from her mech.

For the rest, first off, it’s obvious that 8 and 11 are just one scene split in two; they might very well even be the same scene repeated.

But that’s not the only group of clips that might go together; there are actually several that seem to be part of, if not the same scene, then the same episode.

Starting with 19, 7 looks like it could be that same mech seen from the front. And that’s not all. We know from s7e13 that those mechs drain quintessence with their weapons - likely what’s happening here. So what happens when you drain the life from something? Well, it could very well look like the scenery depicted in 24. Which of course shows Pidge and Allura on a mission somewhere. And since VLD doesn’t usually repeat character teams multiple times a season, it’s likely the same mission we see the Green and Blue Lions on in 13; which features the same structure seen in 16.

Here’s the hypothetical sequence: 16, 19, 7, 13, 24. This order is based on both a logical sequence of events and the time of day shown in the image.

It’s also plausible that 10 might belong to this episode as well, probably the paired plotline - since it features Hunk and Lance apparently alone.

Taking the visuals and the characters into question, it looks like the setting for this string of clips is a colony - whether it’s one of Lotor’s or a new base built by Honerva is yet to be seen.

Speaking of Honera, she’s got both new duds and a new ride. I’d bet good money that 30, 31, and 32 are all part of the transformation sequence for the spooky black mech showcased in 41 - we also see its headpiece light up in 38.

Also in 38 is Sincline, apparently retrieved from the rift. But, there’s something not quite right about it. The mech is partially obscured, but from what can be seen it appears that the external lighting that was visible in s6 has all gone dark. The eyes alone appear to still be alight. Whatever it means, it doesn’t bode well for Lotor. Who, by the way, also makes an apparently present-time appearance in the trailer; in 29. I TOLD YOU SO YOU FUCKERS I TOLD-

There has been much speculation as to whether or not Lotor is really there or if the brief clip is part of a flashback. In my own opinion; it’s both. Lotor is not an illusion as he is the character in focus in the clip, but as it is Allura’s reaction that is initially front and center it appears that the scene is equally between the two of them. If anything, I would guess the specific clip we have is transitory in nature; Allura is reacting to something off-screen and Lotor is now about to offer some commentary on the thing in question. Notably though, the architecture this scene happens in is the dark purple of the Empire; and I would argue that if anything this is the part that isn’t real.

While it’s certainly possible that 4 is a part of Honerva’s flashback, I think it much more likely that this is a memory of Lotor’s as the event shown was referenced as having been a formative experience for him. We already have two examples in canon of one person viewing another’s memories ( when Haggar revived Zarkon and when Keith and Krolia traveled through the Qunatum Abyss) so it wouldn’t be a stretch for it to happen again.

Even so, since we do unambiguously see Sincline, debating exactly how ‘real’ 29 is is a moot point: Lotor’s back, baby! All you haters leaving anon messages in my inbox can suck it, who’s delusional now assholes? I doubt we’re off the pain train yet, but vindication station is in sight! don’t count your chickens before they hatch don’t count on anything oh GOD this train could yet derail. Fuck. Fuck! But this looks good. It does. So far this is exactly what I expected, stay calm.

Anyway.

25 and 35 seem to feature the same landscape and new kind of aliens. It looks similar to the Balmera, and might simply be another one and its residents. Or, it could be a different kind of crystal-producing creature altogether.

And it looks like we’re in for some fun times in the astral realm! With both 15 and 39 pretty unambiguously set in the nebulous ‘quintessence vision’ we’ve seen a handful of times throughout the series. It looks like some previously defeated foes have come to visit as well! Only time will tell if they’re constructs of flesh and steel or mere memory.

But we’ve saved potentially the most interesting clips for last. First, 20 and 37 are definitely the same structure, showing respectively the formation and activation of it. Eight objects arranged in a circle around a central point. But what are they? It’s admittedly very difficult to make out, and we probably would deed access to a HD trailer to say for sure, but I’ve got a good guess. What else shoots through space trailing a tail of light but a comet?

Hey! It’s the right color scheme and everything!

Huh. Y’know what else shares that color scheme? That dark rock with thin, green-blue glowing veins?

This place.

Now, I’m not saying they’re all the same thing. But I wouldn’t rule out a connection. Balmeran crystals are what Alteans historically used to power their ships and likely are rich with quintessence, trans reality ore is associated with the rift, which is full of quintessence. There exists a plausible connection.

Also in 20 is a swirling purple vortex-like gate. I call it a gate because we can actually observe Voltron entering a similar looking structure in 14. And, while it’s easy to miss, it actually seems to be what the Black Lion and the huge unknown mecha are in front of - and possibly falling into - in 33.

I’d like to thank @legendofcarl for pointing out in this post that Honerva is actually piloting the temple in Oriande (in 9 here) as opposed to opening a wormhole. Because taking that into consideration, the white pyramidal structures in 41 are not just reminiscent of Oriande, they are Oriande. Specifically, the temple: it’s a ship. And it’s what is floating in front of the purple vortex in 20.

Which would indicate that the fight involving Sincline and the black mech in 41 is probably happening in front of that vortex and the wheel of comets as well. And those Alteans seen in 14? They’re likely on the Temple ship.

Why not tie some more in? The shots of identity-shifting Honerva clearly powering something off-screen in 8 & 11? They’re not the black mech from 41 - we see the inside of that one in 31 and 32. It might be that she’s inside the unknown mech from 33.

And it might be the robot she’s standing in front of in 42, because the more I look at it, the less it looks like Sincline.

For one, the colors are wrong. It’s not possible to tell the true colors because of the orange tone of the image, but Sincline’s legs are grey, its feet blue, and the pointed edges on the feet are bright orange. This mech clearly has the same color feet and legs, and the edging on the feet looks to be a lighter silver-white of some sort. The shape of the ankles and feet is off as well, if this was sincline there should be an extra piece incorporated into the joint at the front where the foot and leg meet. The ankles also look too narrow in proportion to the feet as well. Finally, Sincline’s tail is opaque, and we shouldn’t be able to see the sunset between the segments. The end of the tail, while indistinct in the screen, also looks to be either the wrong shape in general or have one fewer points than it should.

Can mechs fuse? Because if you meshed Sincline and the black mech together this is about what I’d expect. Darker color scheme, familiar yet different designs - and if it’s the same one as in 33, approximately twice the size of Voltron.

There’s a lot of exciting things in this trailer, and much to consider. But after laying this all out? I think this is probably all from the first few episodes. Because when you string it all together, there’s only a very small collection of scenes here. This probably doesn’t even include the mid-season event.

Oh Boy! I’m Excited!

I can’t wait for December 14th!

But I can’t leave you all without a few predictions can I? Just based on what we have here, what would I project for this section of the plot?

Well... The first episode should be spent on Earth, seeing how our paladins lives have been now that they’ve reconnected with their families, getting filled in by Matt and the rest of the coalition fighters on what exactly has been going down in the wider universe. Either the tail end of that or the beginning of the next episode should throw the Altean and whatever info she brings into the mix, and that info should be what prompts the team to return to space.

I’d wager they’ll head for the Altean Colony first thing - at least Allura will. This may be where the shots of Allura and Pidge on a mission will fit in, and on the flip side where Hunk and Lance will once again pair up and tackle something else pressing. That section with the pink and white base is probably the/an Altean Colony.

This is also where we will begin learning the truth about what is actually going on. That will put everything that I and the rest of the Lotor-fans have been theorizing to the test. No idea as of yet what side of this Romelle will shake out on, but here is where it will happen.

Oh, but whatever they find at the colony, it looks like Honerva’s already taken all the Chosen Alteans to Oriande. Oops, Paladins, you’re too late.

Honerva is out to retrieve Lotor from the rift.

She had Sendak attempt to capture the Lions in s7 because she needs a trans-reality comet as well as Altean Alchemy to access the Quintessence Field. Sendak was fine with this because he needed to prove Lotor was dead to enable someone else (himself, yo) to become Emperor, and Lotor has kinda been Shordinger’s Cat in this situation: simultaneously alive and dead because you can’t know for sure until you open the rift.

Honerva was probably watching through Sendak the same way she had been Shiro and Narti; when she saw he’d failed she sent the one mech she had prepared in attempt to catch the paladins while they were still weak from their battle.

But she lost that too.

Now, she’s either got herself some more trans-reality ore, or she’s found a substitute that just might work if you put enough of the stuff together. That’d be that lovely space-wheel we see.

The paladins realize she’s already left Oriande and catch up to her just in time to see Honerva rip open a hole in reality and haul her son back into the plot. That’s why Sincline appears to be powered down in that shot; it’s just been removed from the rift.

We’re missing some major pieces here, but SOMETHING happens during that showdown to split the Alteans’ alignment away from Honerva, change the appearance of her mech, and probably prompt Voltron to follow her through the spooky purple vortex in the sky.

And hey! What’s on the other side of a Hole in the Sky?

Other realities of course.

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OMG OMG! Lotor is back, guys! He’s back! YEESSSSSSSS!

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ptw30 · 6 years

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New Content ≠ New Information

- or why you might have been underwhelmed by the recent Voltron: Legendary Defender trailer.

A few people dropped into my messages yesterday and said the exact same thing, “But Dev, we got new content in the Season 8 trailer. How did we not learn anything new?”

I’m paraphrasing a bit here, but the intent was all the same - we got new content, so we know more about Season 8, right?

Not really, no.

Below the cut - what trailers should tell us, how Season 2′s trailer rocked, what we didn’t learn from the Season 8 trailer, and - okay, I give. There are two new things we learned about Season 8 from yesterday’s meatless burger.

(I can do food metaphors, too.)

A trailer is supposed to do a few things, but its main purpose to explain what plot is coming up and give relevance to the new content.

Let me put this in a food metaphor for you. Let’s say the Voltron Twitter handle promises you food. You assume a burger. Now a good trailer is just about half the burger because a season has two main obstacles - the first problem the heroes must overcome and then a second, harder issue at the season’s end.

So a trailer should explain the initial problem and foreshadow to the final problem. That means you’re still hungry at the end of the trailer, and that’s a good thing. You now need to eat the rest of the burger - or see the season.

Do me a favor - rewatch the Season 2 trailer on Netflix. I’ll wait.

...

You didn’t, did you? *mock glare*

Within the first 31 seconds, you know the “lions of lore” have returned. You know Zarkon, the villain, can only be defeated by these lions, and you know that Zarkon is actively hunting Voltron PLUS to raise the stakes, Zarkon can find Voltron anywhere.

...that’s pretty much, in 30 seconds, is a recap of Season 1 and the entire plot of Season 2.

Then we get - New Worlds, New Allies, New Villains - which rounds out the new places we visit, the Blades, and the Robeasts. The trailer ends with the defacto showdown you’ve been waiting for since the end of the previous scene.

Now, we don’t know if Shiro will win this battle verse Zarkon, so we’re not hungry but ravenous for the rest of this burger. And double points to the creator of this trailer because the scene above in “Space Mall” also foreshadows the second showdown between Zarkon and Shiro in “Blackout,” the second problem of the season.

You essentially have S2 wrapped up in a 1:45 trailer.

Then, when we watched Season 2 - not only did Voltron deliver the rest of the burger, they also threw in some fries and a milkshake.

Good job, VLD Season 2.

Season 8 Trailer - where’s the beef?

The issue with the Season 8 trailer is that it gave us a salad, not even the burger, and I’m not hungry after eating the salad. But I’m also not satiated. In fact, I think the tomatoes weren’t good, and I’m just...not...feeling right.

The trailer starts with a longer version of the teaser trailer from October. I wasn’t thrilled with the original teaser trailer, but I understood it. The paladins have changed over the last two years. Now, we’ve arrived at the final season.

No need to redo that in the first 30 seconds of the new trailer and certainly no need to just take random quotes that don’t really reflect where we are now. But - I’ll give. Okay. You want to set the scene, Voltron. Got it.

But then once the new stuff is supposed to show, you cut to a scene from “The White Lion,” an episode from Season 6.

And okay - the paladins are heading back into Oriande, but...we knew that from the NYCC trailer. Show us something we don’t know.

Then we see Hunk firing his bayard -

- which was great in the Season 7 trailer, too. How about something new? ...sure, okay. He’s in a forest. That... doesn’t thrill me - unless I know the forest is the Forest of Life or something. ...more on that in a moment.

Next, the trailer cuts to Lance who is going into the Void - an old scene from “Postmorteum,” Season 5.

Then we see Allura making a tree glow.

So? Allura can make Voltron glow. She did it in Season 4 - “A New Defender,” so why is this tree important? I have no attachment to this tree - or Hunk’s forest adventure. You gotta give me a reason to care about this forest, Voltron.

Then we see Hunk and Lance flying through the forest, so...again, we’re in the forest. Good. We know Pidge is also in this forest from the NYCC trailer, so...I’m glad the paladins decided to go for a picnic.

Then we see an explosion with the lions - which we’ve seen explosions with the lions before. Why should I care about this particular explosion? (I have a point! I’m getting there...)

Then we see Matt from the NYCC trailer. Not new. Green comes for Pidge. That happened in the first season, “Return of the Gladiator.”

And here - 49 seconds in - is when we get our first new information of the trailer!

We didn’t know that Haggar fired on the original paladins, possibly killing them. Yes! FINALLY. After all, we knew the original paladins were going to show up from the Voltron Tumblr Questions after SDCC. So good. Now we have context. (More on to that in one moment. I have to put Keef in cuz it’s Keef.)

Then Keith uses his Blade of Marmora blade -

- which he’s been wielding since Season 2.

My point is - none of these things mean ANYTHING without context, which the trailer does not give us.

Who is Keith attacking? Why is he using his BoM blade and not his bayard? Without the context, as far as I know is - he decided he likes to use his BoM blade, which he did in “The Black Paladins.”

The forest! Why is that forest important? Give me a reason to care about this forest - that it holds the Tree of Life and the universe grew from that tree. Something! Anything!

Even Allura’s end remarks -

- are a lie because there was an episode called, “Defenders of All Universes” in Season 6.

Voltron, DreamWorks, been there, done that. Move on.

The trailer needed to explain what is actually happening in Season 8 and what makes it special, the final dark night, what are we facing? Haggar? And what? What is she really trying to do and how is it different from what Lotor did in Season 6?

That’s the beef.

Instead of having Shiro promise the team is going to come home triumphant - it’s Voltron. Of course they are going to win. If you actually have them lose and the universe be destroyed, then at least that’d be a true plot twist. Ultimately - the Defenders of the Universe fail to defend the universe. -

- tell us Haggar’s plan. Have Allura say, “Haggar wants to go back in time and change what happened to Altea and Daibazaal. She wants to rewrite history using the Tree of Life.”

What’s the hook here? The reality that we know might never exist. The Voltron Paladins may never have existed, and more over - should the paladins try to stop her - or help her? Is it wrong for them to wipe out the last 10k years of Galra conquering, and if so - why?

And then the lions are also in the middle of this - because they are the reason Altea and Daibazaal ultimately destroyed each other.

Then, show us context or delete context and show us new aspects of the show. Don’t show me Lance and Keith plugging in their bayards to create the big thrusters on Voltron again.

We watched Season 7. We know!

And explosions don’t thrill us anymore without the context. So either show that this is Earth being destroyed - OR better yet - show me the Blue Bayard being plugged into its slot by Allura or Lance. Show me the Blue Bayard and the Red Bayard. Show me the Yellow Bayard and the Green Bayard. Show me the Black Bayard and Yellow Bayard. Show me Black and Green, Red and Yellow, Black and Blue - these are all combinations that have never been done!

Give me something to look forward to finding out, not things we have already seen.

...Okay, there are two places where the trailer achieves this. The first place was above with Haggar and the original paladins, and the second was here -

Sincline or Haggar attacking Atlas, which arguably isn’t new content because we just saw them on different sides of the battlefield in the NYCC trailer - but I’m making an exception because we didn’t know that Sincline and Atlas would actually meet up.

TL;DR - Where’s my burger, Voltron? You’re dropping thirteen episodes two weeks from today, and yet - we’ve only seen 53 seconds of new content. What gives?

I’m not asking you to feed me like YJ, with the entire Dollar Menu. They gave me a five-minute trailer six months before the drop, then a scene three months before the drop, and then a full trailer a month and change out.

I’m just asking you for a solid two-minute trailer. That’s it.

#voltron #vld season 8 #trailer #it's a marketing thing #voltron critical #haggar #vld season 2 #zarkon #shiro #keith

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astrolavas · 7 years

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why he nakey?

why HE nakey???

wHY THEY BOTH NAKEY???

#i wanna know #voltron #voltron season 2 #vld #klance #???#i wish #vld s2 #i'm screamin at the whole trailer btw #keith #lance #lavender talks

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bee-zs · 7 years

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Newest Official Voltron Season 2 Trailer!

#voltron #voltron season 2 #voltron s2 #voltron trailer #aaaHHHHH HHHHH #voltron legendary defender #vld #video

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grandadcoran · 7 years

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Pidge “Get Some Of This” Gunderson

#look at her #she's so sassy #I love her #my smol birb child #voltron s2 trailer #voltron #voltron legendary defender #pidge #vld pidge #pidge gunderson #s2 trailer meme

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kakunamatatq · 6 years

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Me: Allura and Kuron/Shiro getting to have what appears to be a fun, lighthearted adventure akin to “Space Mall” warms my heart after they both missed out on that in s2 Also me: “Space Mall” was also the last time Keith had a fun, lighthearted adventure let the boy relax and live DreamWorks

#Voltron #VLD S2 #VLD S6 #Space Mall #Monsters & Mana #Allura #Takashi Shirogane #Kuron #Keith Kogane #unless Dragon!Keith or Princess!Keith pans out but I'm guessing he's off with Krolia on a mission in this episode #I don't mind being proven wrong though DreamWorks #KM Komments #VLD S6 Spoilers #VLD S6 Trailer #VLD Spoilers #Voltron Spoilers

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Something I don't understand. According to those stats you posted, VLD has got more or less similar traffic rates as other shows like Castlevania and The Dragon Prince. So why is its Twitter and Tumblr presence so massively higher? For example the trailer for S8 on Twitter has 12k likes, but the trailer of S2 of Castlevania has only got 3.6k, almost just 1/4 of Voltron. I know you said Fandom can't be used to detect actual traffic, but I thought different Fandoms could be compared to each other.

You can compare fandoms, yes, but what you’re comparing in twitter stats vs the stats I listed is the difference between engagement and viewership.

We can determine engagement by looking at traffic on twitter, tumblr, facebook, instagram, and google searches. As google is the only one of those five that has a reach beyond 20% of the internet-using public, I find it’s the best for a blunt-force measurement of audience engagement, which really boils down to “how much people are talking about it.”

Wikipedia’s page views are an extrapolation of viewership. That’s a massive segment of the population who don’t get on twitter, use facebook for family stuff, aren’t into instagram, and have never heard of tumblr (yes, lots of those people exist).

Remember, a controversial show can get people talking but that doesn’t translate automatically to them watching. If you go by twitter stats, S7 should’ve been THE most watched season of VLD ever, ‘cause boy was it blowing up the charts in terms of engagement. Thing is, its viewership stats were just fractionally higher than S6, and still nowhere near S1/S2 levels. It didn’t bring in that many more eyeballs; it just got talked about. A lot.

The other thing to keep in mind is that you’re comparing one show’s seventh season to another show’s first season and a third show’s second season. VLD has had 2 more years to build up its audience than tDP, and a year more than Castlevania (which also doesn’t come with the massive marketing push that DW puts into even its half-assed-marketed shows).

On top of that, Castlevania’s audience skews older, and those of us with jobs don’t have the time to spend all day on various platforms, so our engagement may be as strong but it’s rarely as noisy. (in other words, we’ll miss stuff ‘cause we don’t have the time to go back and see everything in our feed that happened while we were busy elsewhere.) Meanwhile, tDP’s audience skews slightly younger, and twitter is much more a 18-30 kind of platform. So tDP’s audience is either slightly too young for twitter, while its other audience (parents) are just a little older than twitter’s core audience.

So, comparison graphs. Colors for each show in each graph are:

blue: Voltron (VLD)green: She-Ra (SPOP)red: The Dragon Prince (tDP)orange: Castlevaniapurple: Trollhunters (TH)

Viewership stats (via Wiki)

Stats run from 6/1/2016 to 11/17/2018.

VLD’s S1 viewership peaked at about 38K; TH’s S1 peaked at about 21K, same as SPOP over on the far right. Castlevania hit about 72K in its first season, so its S2 drop to around 48K is about standard. tDP managed almost 50K in its first season.

Viewership drops by 30-40% with each subsequent season for the average show; a drop of less than 20% means you have a major hit on your hands. The last season almost always shows a spike, as people come back to see how it ends. If a show ends without that spike, consider it dying a quiet death.

That reality of each subsequent season losing viewers means SPOP is in a really bad place right now, unless it can do a turn-around like TH and have a powerful ending. If SPOP has more than three seasons, by the time it gets to its final season (and that resurgent viewership for the finale), it might barely be a blip on the scale. The longer the show, the higher you want the S1 levels, to offset that expected decline over the seasons.

Engagement stats (via Google)

Here’s the chatter, of people searching for each show (or related topics like toys, merch, news, fic, art, etc). Same colors as above, for each show, for the same time period.

Unfortunately, Castlevania drowns everyone else out by such a degree that we can’t really see much until we get that out of the way. So this second one, I narrowed it down to ‘Castlevania netflix’ to temporarily quiet it, a little.

Compare this to the viewership, and you can see some interesting behaviors. People talked about TH a lot more than VLD, despite TH having such lower viewership stats. There was a major spike when SPOP released its character designs, and kerfluffles get people talking. For VLD, its S3 viewership dropped as in standard but the chatter went up; S3 and S7 came close to matching S1 levels of engagement (for not always good reasons, natch).

Notably, tDP may be somewhat quiet (comparatively) over on twitter, but it’s got people talking, too. If you’re wondering, the most common related search terms are for the cast overall, then ‘avatar the last airbender’ and then Ralya, Callum, Amaya, and Claudia. Going by frequency, Rayla is the most popular character by a large margin.

The dotted line in green, at the far right, is Google’s prediction based on the past few days’ traffic, as we haven’t quite completed the first week. (A query for a year+ gets compressed to a weekly Sun-Sat view.)

Speaking of which, let’s take it down to just the past 90 days, and remove the narrowing filter on Castlevania. This graph has a bumpier view because it’s back to a daily value for each.

tDP and SPOP look very close, and there’s really only a few points difference: tDP maxed out at 43%; SPOP maxed at 37%. (Basically, take Castlevania’s highest-rated day as x, and tDP’s highpoint is 43% of x.) If I narrow Castlevania down again, we can see tDP vs SPOP chatter.

People are talking about SPOP but still not quite to the degree of engagement as tDP. Then again, SPOP also hamstrung itself by releasing three days early without a lot of warning, so it’s possible we may see another spike similar to tDP’s once word gets out that the series is actually released. Or, once early adopters create buzz and lure more people into watching.

bottom line

What people talk about isn’t always what they’re watching. And people will watch and not have the place, time, or energy to chat about it online. All of these shows are on Netflix, too, so no advertising income as a comparison point. That makes engagement a more useful data point, because the income doesn’t change based on viewership.

By that measure, TH is probably DW’s most successful series of these, followed by VLD, and then SPOP. TH is the only one inside shouting distance of what tDP managed it its first season, and none of them come close to competing with Castlevania’s numbers.

Hell, if I were DW, right now I might be having serious regrets of making VLD a Y7 property, considering Castlevania’s M rating. By platform and viewership, Netflix might be the best home for adult-oriented series where stories can explore darker themes. Of all the franchises DW has right now, VLD was possibly the best candidate for taking advantage of the platform. That M rating hasn’t hurt Castlevania in the least, and in fact may’ve been part of what propelled it so high.

#vld #voltron #castlevania #the dragon prince #she-ra #trollhunters #doing the data cronch #sol thinks about stuff

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