growing up is realizing you don’t hate anyone in lees group

it’s just a bunch of f-cked up people

forced together in a f-cked up situation

not to mention WITH CHILDREN

it honestly frustrates me when i see people reduce the ericsons cast down to "just some teens in the woods" acting like theyre no different than any other group of lone teenagers from other existing properties and treating them like an overused trope

it is sooo important to acknowledge the "troubled youth" aspect of the whole equation. theyre not just some random teens in the woods clem stumbles across. these kids were abandoned by their families for their various "difficulties" and fucked up by The System before the outbreak even began. and then once zombies started roaming the streets their familes never came back for them and the adults that were in charge of taking care of them just left them there to rot in that old boarding school (except for ms martin who was like their lee 🥺 the only person who ever saw them as the scared traumatized kids they were and died protecting them)

the whole aspect of them already being fucked up by the adults that controlled their lives is like.....kind of important when discussing the whole "delta is stealing kids to force them to fight in a war they have no real part in and want nothing to do with" aspect of the season. and its important when comparing them to clem and her journey of also suffering at the hands of the adults around her forcing her to become self reliant. AND its important when discussing the "just trying to build a safe home (and future) worth fighting for in this world that wants them dead" aspect of the season as well

these kids were forced to come together to survive. and a Lot of them didnt... theyre the only family they have left and you can tell that even when they argue with each other theyre still a close knit group who looks out for each other. theyre a Real family before clem even gets there (and its why what really happened with the twins and brody and marlon hits them all so especially hard)

all of this is what REALLY makes ericsons such a perfect home for clem. its a Real community of her True peers. theyre not Just teens. they mightve had a layer of safety clem never had by at least having walls to keep them safe. and having the benefit of the school being hard to find. its the only reason theyre still alive when clem shows up. but theyre also some of the only people who can Truly understand where clem and aj are coming from. and its why it hurts so much when they vote to kick them out. but its also partially why she merges back into the fold so easily when she returns. plus the fact that shes Really the only one who has any idea what shes doing. shes their rock and she makes them feel safe because underneath it all theyre still just those scared traumatized kids ("EVERYONE is scared, clem..." vi was Definitely including herself in that 'everyone'), and on some level, so is clem

they saved clementines life. and she saved theirs. "the school was supposed to help them with their trauma, now they help each other" its about the LOVE the COMMUNITY the SUPPORT!!!! and thats the shit that makes good zombie media honestly 👌

Found something from February in my phone, decided to finish some final touches and upload it here.

Just started replaying season 2 today. This first episode alone makes me wish they'd done so much more with Nick, he's one of the most interesting members of the cabin group by far. Also wouldn't have minded more time with Pete. I feel like things might've gone a bit better with someone as level-headed and competent as him around to take charge, though I could also see him butting heads with Kenny.

Don't worry Sarita, I can stay. I already saw Kenny smash another man's head before. 😌✌️✨️

What if clementine had died in season 4???

I found this edit on tik tok and went to look for an alternative ending for clem on yt and saw that they made a fanmade. I don't know but in my head it doesn't make sense that clementine survived, she literally was already transforming. if that were the case lee would have survived too, this ending is very plot hole.

Fanmade here 👇🏻

If your wondering how twdg replay is going I have been sobbing for the past half an hour

I'm curious if you have any thoughts on what Ben Paul would look like if he was alive years after S1 of TWDG :> I honestly prefer to imagine both him & Kenny going off on their own adventures after S1, because Idk if I'd've had Kenny as part of S2, it felt like when he returned it became less Clem's story & more his. That might be controversial among fans but it's how I feel :s I like to imagine Ben, Kenny & Sarita forming their own little family in fact <3 I'd expect Ben would end up with shaggier hair after a while but I wouldn't mind knowing what he'd look like with short, spiked up hair ;>

IM SORRY BOTH THE ASK AND DRAWING ARE OLD- but I came across the sketch I had eugeugeh. I do not have many headcanons but behind the cut is just a rant about. Kenny mostly. Too much should I warn? But yah I'm sorry it took me like 5 months lol

The only headcanon (regarding Ben's appearance) is that he'd keep his school jacket for as long as possible. Until it thorns apart. Or until he dies.

I'm big fan of Ben lives possibility btw I've gotta draw sum about that sometime (I say, about every twdg character i like,)

And dude, do I agree about Kenny. Man doesn't belong in season 2. The character they made him to be in the second season is not Kenny, it's just a nostalgia element. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, I'm biased as hell, I break that hug choice every time. But it made the character development in the first season just.... pointless. "For some reason, I saved that piece of shit Ben", man, that quote just disappoints me. Kenny lost everything. Father and husband of none no more, which was pretty much the arc of Kenny on the first season?? I think? . Everything he loved and he had he lost, and he killed the person responsible for it. But not as revenge, he killed a kid out of mercy. He saved the boy from suffering a painful death, and that was forgiveness, to the reason he hadn't any. He took a decision he would be fully responsible of, when it was time for him to go. And he was perfect.

Hell, if he had appeared during season 2, I do prefer the Kenny as Carver idea. Clementine wasn't even that close to Kenny in the past, the player was, so even then it feels... off, off to be forced to care about a man that says so much he wants to protect you. (They're not really family, but is as if Kenny tries to protect and have Clem on his side, to have Clem's loyalty through and through. Though he does let her go and is proud of her on her individuality... hm.) But still, I mean, second season Kenny is not first season Kenny, and it isn't even a change that made sense. If he had been antagonist (which pretty much feels like it in the Canon story already), he should have had some other background story, no Sarita or company. Maybe then the cynical view he has would have mattered. The violence and anger and whatever else. For him to change that way was a consequence of him losing what he represented, protection of family? Wasn't failure and grief and acceptance meant to be important after all?

But otherwise yea I think it would've been pretty cool if Ben survived :3 I am a sucker for tales of redemption, forgiveness, and found family. And I hadn't thought about Kenny, Ben, and Sarita, but hell yeah. Man, even if they appeared in the second season, it would've been interesting if the choice wasn't between two individuals, but between two families. Ben already had a relationship with Clem! He appreciated her and calls her his only friend during season 1, he did leave her behind during that scene, -but the point of Ben was that- He was a coward all the season, until when he wasn't. He wanted to help Lee help Clem. They would've had an interesting sibling relationship-? also Ben had a young sister before the apocalypse so ooooh projection and parallels and shi. And if Ben had lived, he would've completed his development to something close to bravery-?

Well, I don't know, at least I think that'd be one interesting way to bring back old characters. Otherwise, Kenny should only be mentioned on dialogue maximum. The way I see it.

(I repeat the same thing over and over when I talk about something I'm sorry

(I've developed no language skills whatsoever in my life

(Yippee

I’m just now realizing how much of a missed opportunity it was that TWDG Season 2 had the big decision on who Clem goes with be between Jane and Kenny when the decision clearly should’ve been between Luke and Kenny

Luke is one of the characters you interact with the most in season two and he’s one of those characters that tried to look out for Clementine to the best of their abilities. Kenny is also like this but the two of them have pretty conflicting personalities and had their share of unkind words exchanged with one another

Replaying all the games really made me realize that Jane was never the smart choice, she cares for Clementine and gives her tips on how to survive but honestly her care for her doesn’t really compare with Kenny OR Luke. Jane kills her self a while after the fight with Kenny and leaves Clementine to raise a baby by herself at with some kinda ‘I want you to prepared’ nonsense before she dips

Kenny on the other hand takes care of Clem for as long as he can and at the end of the day sacrifices himself for both Clementine and Alvin Jr’s survival. He’s clearly the better option.

Putting Luke in Janes position at the end of the game would force the player to remake a decision they already made

This would’ve been great foreshadowing

THIS WAS SO OBVIOUS AND ITS SO AGGRAVATING THAT NO ONE THOUGHT TO BE LIKE ‘wait a minute’

IT ALSO WOULDNT BE HARD TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE LUKE AND KENNY WOULD BRAWL they already argued frequently and yeah the hiding Alvin Jr in the freezing cold thing would have to change but that was kinda ignorant anyways and again it only made Jane look worse

I’m a Luke apologist justice for Luke

What do you think the saddest thing about TWDG Season 1 is?

I think it's how quick the group actually dies out.

Other than Doug/Carley, everyone dies, disappears or leaves the scene within a week, give or take 2-3 days.

The way the group goes from opening episode 2 with 9 people to making it to the mansion with 3 original group members. The way everything they touch seems to become a disaster.

Chuck, Omid and Molly are "part of the group" for like 2 days each and all of them get hurt or separated from the group.

From the moment they leave the Motor Inn to go to the Barn, it's just absolute loss and disarray. And I think that's sad, especially how they open episode 2 by saving a life and from there on, its just loss. The season ends with one member, the youngest member of the group, by herself.

i wonder what life would be like if twdg season 2 went through with its original thought of the ending

i believe luke and kenny were supposed to fight, and kenny was taking carver’s place. and at the end, clem has to choose to either leave AJ in the snow to survive the blizzard, or lie down and die with him

I wish twdg explored more on how though human beings can become closer through awful times…..sometimes that’s not always the case

is anybody else out there still creating twdg fanworks 😭📢 where is everyone please dont say reddit i cant go back there

Just replayed episodes 4 and 5 of season 2 over the past few days, and I have some thoughts that I'll be sharing across separate posts about several things.

The first thing I wanted to talk about was Luke, and specifically Luke in episode 4.

At one point in the episode, after the scene with Jane and Arvo at the observation deck, you end up talking to Luke, and he says some things about Kenny. Specifically, he says that Kenny is a broken man, and that he's a danger to the group. On a basic level, this is yet another interaction with Luke that feeds into a Luke VS Kenny confrontation that sadly never ended up happening. When I thought more about it though, it made me wonder if, in an alternate version of this story, Luke's words about Kenny would've ended up being ironic.

In a version of TWDG season 2 where Luke and Kenny DID have a fight, perhaps Luke himself would have become a "broken" man, thus justifying how the fight would happen in the first place.

Kenny has lost just about everything in his life, and by the end of episode 4, so has Luke.

Kenny is distrustful and suspicious of those outside of his "inner circle", and there's a moment in the episode where Luke voices suspicion towards Mike in a way that seemed weirdly uncharacteristic for him.

Kenny behaves in increasingly erratic ways throughout the season, and so does Luke, from his constant arguing with Kenny, to hooking up with Jane and ignoring his patrol.

Kenny suffers a serious injury at the hands of Carver, and Luke also finds himself heavily beaten by him. Both injuries persist throughout the entire season.

It just makes me wonder if, in an alternate version of the story, all these parallels would have led up to Luke finally snapping in his own way, leading to a final confrontation between him and Kenny. There's no real right or wrong for Clementine to choose between, just two broken men who blame each other for everything that's gone wrong.

I don't know if any of this makes sense. It's just my ramblings after finishing the season, and I wanted to share it with others.

I went with Kenny till the very end.

But at what cost...