Estimating Twisted Wonderland's Circumference ONCE AND FOR ALL
howdy. In this post, I once attempted to figure out the circumference of Twisted wonderland. Instead, I failed, and just went mad collecting screenshots of random spheres that weren't/might be globes modeling the planet.
that's not important. What IS important is the rant about the map that we DO have that followed. y'see, it looks like this.
Tilted. Cropped. Incomplete. Utterly infuriating. Anyway, we're gonna be working with my SUPERIOR map projection for this theory post.
yeah it's literally just tilted so that North points straight up. There's almost no way to really tell what latitude location is or how large it is compared to the rest of the world... EXCEPT...
...FOR THE CLIMATES.
it's pretty easy to label the middle section as "temperate," since summers are hot, winters are snowy, and every other season is pretty comfortable.
The northern parts of the Coral Sea can be determined as arctic or near-arctic, because Azul and the tweels don't bother being there during the winter due to the ice covering the water's surface. The furthest south that winter sea ice extends on earth is the coast of Hokkaido, Japan, at 43 degrees north.
Last but not least, as Sunset Savanna is based on the setting of the lion king, that makes it a tropical savanna. The most northern tropical savanna on earth is the Terai–Duar savanna at the base of the Himalayas in India, at 27 degrees north.
Therefore, this whole (VERY inexact) area I marked on this map that holds the temperate zone is around 16 degrees of Twisted Wonderland's latitude, possibly more.
Now, we don't exactly have a giant perfect ruler that we can use for reference. but we DO have the next best thing: Sage's Island!
And 16 degrees of Twisted Wonderland's latitude seems to beeee…
22 Sage's Islands long!
So this lil island is about 0.727 degrees long.
Now, I'm none too confident in my island-length-guessing ability. So i gotta say Sage's Island is like... maybe 3 miles long, north to south.
Soooo... 3 miles is 0.727 degrees in Twisted Wonderland.
That means 1 degree is 4.126 miles.
And that means the full 360 degrees of Twisted Wonderland's circumference is... drumroll please...
...
1,485.36 miles/2390.46 kilometers.
Give or take, I mean. I'm not a scientist. I don't even play Twisted Wonderland.
PLEASE understand that is a TINY amount. Earth's circumference is 40,075.017 km. PLUTO has a circumference of 7,231 km. Twisted wonderland is smaller than Pluto.
We were ROBBED of Yuu being capable of jumping 50 feet in the air due to the weaker gravity.
As someone used to non-canon ships where we scrabble for crumbs of interaction, joining fandoms with good canon ships is weird. Like people ship it? Even though its canon? And it an actually good ship? They actually like eachother canonically??? THEY KISSED ON SCREEN???
Is it just me or do some Bylers reach way too hard to defend Mike for things he was objectively wrong for? Like the rink o mania thing is a perfect example, Will was not being bitchy (onscreen) at all to Mike until the argument where Mike was the one who started it by blaming Will for not telling him about El’s problems. Mike was being a huge asshole there, which even he noticed and said Will didn’t deserve the way Mike treated him. He then apologized and Will accepted it because Will knows that Mike was genuinely remorseful and that he wanted to be best friends again. I hate to say this bc 99% of the time it is deeper than it looks but for this I just don’t get how you can watch and think Will was actually in the wrong.
i do enjoy a good reach and i get not wanting one character to be 100% in the right and one character to be 100% in the wrong in an argument and i don't even think mike was 100% in the wrong at rink o mania but when you back up a bit...what did will do wrong exactly lol.
do we agree with mike that he was a douche for...not telling him that el was being bullied? nonsensical. he didn't even know she was lying to him before the airport.
was he wrong for barely talking and basically sabotaging the whole day? a day el said was supposed to be about the two of them, making will third wheel and feel like shit just like in the beginning of season 3 and for months before that? right...because that makes sense.
was will in the wrong for not calling mike and for making it sound like it was his fault they didn't keep in touch? this one i can get behind but he would have let that go (the painting being a welcome gift doesn't scream resentful) had mike not made it clear that he wasn't interested in anything he had to say by...rejecting his hug, agreeing to the whole day being about him and el, ignoring him save for the vomit green joke, And not calling for months. if the first three hadn't occurred maybe will wouldn't have felt the need to defend himself when mike started a fight because he didn't tell him his gf was being bullied like he's their couples counselor or something
it's like you said mike literally starts the fight and then deflects (twice) and Then he apologizes...idk!
long-winded answer but how exactly was will being a dick lol. i know he apologizes for being mean to him and for pushing him away in the van scene but when exactly on march 22, 1986 was will mean to mike. i can see the pushing him away because he didn't call but he said he deserved the fight and admitted to being a jerk to el (literally HOW. when) and wouldn't let lucas apologize to him in season 3 so i'm not taking his self-deprecating martyr word for it SORRY
it's especially funny when you remember that mike trying to call will is a THEORY
Some spoke of a Great Leap Forward;* others of the Dawn of Human Culture or even the Big Bang of Human Consciousness.
*Mao Zedong coined this phrase in 1957 to describe his radical experiment in industrialization and collectivization in China. It was one of the worst disasters in world history, and by the time Mao called it off in 1962 maybe 30 million people had starved (I return to it in Chapter 10). This makes "Great Leap Forward" rather an odd term to describe the emergence of fully modern humans, but has caught on.
"Why the West Rules – For Now: The patterns of history and what they reveal about the future" - Ian Morris
Also me: okay so 1,000 real-world years equals how much in Avalon time if an hour in Avalon equals a day in the real world? let's see, times 365 days in a year, and that's 365,000 hours in Avalon, divide by 24 for the number of days, and then again by 365 for the years....
Sorry I won’t be on here for like 2 days I got a fat stack of voiceover scripts to get through (80 pages !!!)
And it started with over 100 that my child then came very close to breaking my laptop and managed to delete the massive chunk I already had done and could not salvage for some reason (no idea what he did while I was out of the room ugh) so I had to start over lol
If you need to reach me before I’m back try discord (same username buggyandthebartoclub) - tho I may not answer immediately I will be swamped in editing and recording
Gonna pop in some anime battle music in my headphones and hit the ground running I really want my next pay to be approved and processing before the end of the week lol
Vox and Valentino have been together for almost 50 years, on and off. They had their issues when they got together, like any couple, growing pains and the like. People always say not to mix business and pleasure, but when your business is pleasure, that gets murky. For the first 15 years, things were good. They rarely fought, and certainly never anything an apology couldn’t fix. It felt like a dream in Hell, something Vox had never dared hope for.
The first time they break up, Vox honestly believes it’s the end. Fifteen years is a good run, longer than most people— sure it’s not that long when forever’s on the table, or even those happy marriages where people have been married almost all their lives, but this is Hell, that’s just unreasonable.
And for three weeks that holds out. And then because their businesses are so extricable, they have a meeting that ends with them making out on the desk. It’s easy enough to say that breaking up was a mistake. And maybe their relationship is a little more fraught after that, but they move past it. They’re the Overlord power couple, it’ll take more than that to break them up.
They’re good in the 1990s, honestly. Sure Val breaks his screen for the first time, but it’s an accident. (And it is the first time, the second time it’s harder to defend, but he still does... and the third, and thr fourth). It’s all private, the only people who know that maybe something is amiss is Hellaina and some of Valentino’s employees. To the rest of Hell they’re just as united as they ever were.
Vox honestly can’t say when it changed, when the relationship started going ‘on-again off-again’, or when the off agains started getting longer, and more frequent. When it became a challenge to see who could post about Vox’s broken screen first. Probably just after it became public instead of private. A screaming match at dinner, a snippy comment at a party, forgotten dates, a missed anniversary. That one star of Val’s who looked at him like she was sorry (and that, try as he might, he’s never been able to forget).
Now, Vox brings flowers and apologies and holds onto the better times, like it’s a rough patch. Twenty-five years is a long time, but not when forever’s on the table.