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dilf twink and his drop dead gorgeous wife (+their daughters). Also they're t4t its canon kui told me herself
#I'm so invested in their relationship its not even funny#the divorced couple ever#dungeon meshi#dungeon meshi spoilers#delicious in dungeon#dunmeshi#chilchuck#chilchuck tims#chilchuck's wife#meijack#flertom#puckpatty#did you know they were childhood friends...?...?#KUI WHATS SHE LIKE#TELL ME MORE ABOUT THEM PLEASE#pLEASE#chilchuck is so hard to draw btw#and for what#my art
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That. That screentone on Chilchuck’s chest in the low open collar. Is Chilchuck having chest hair canon
Kui. Kui? Gripping my knee
#Need to make a post for this on its own actually#Chilchuck tims#Dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#‘She didn’t draw any in the sauna chapter’ She does the same with Senshi and we know that she thinks he actually has lots#It could also be finer/paler etc. This panel is a close up with a lot of details like seams#plus it’s one of the final chapters so Kui prob had more time and motivation to go all out#Bc like what. Is it blood from the intestines. If his forearms are fine I don’t see why his chest wouldn’t be#Never forget Chil canonically has gray hairs…… Just selectively#Edit: ok I now see that yeah prob a mistake. Still gonna run with it tho#Screentone struggle is so real I feel u Kui#The tags were me explaining why it’s plausible but still not the intent tho the result is the same either way. Don’t wanna spread misinfo
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do you have any particular thoughts regarding marcille being a half-elf? its interesting to me considering the fact that she seems self-conscious about being a half-elf, but denies it when its brought up
i remember marcille looking visibly uncomfortable over laios simply asking her how old she is, which i think the only reason she might feel nervous about this is because it might reveal her as a half-elf to him.
she's never corrected anybody whose called her an elf either.
never mind the circumstances of the reveal, in which thistle goes on about how half-elves are inferior and accusing her of wanting to become full blooded elf, she seemed particularly upset like he struck a nerve-
i wish the half-elf thing was built upon more. also, underrated marcille line:
okay so i revisited this sequence just to make sure I could back myself up and it's just... man. there's a lot going on.
the first reaction we get from Marcille is this huge panel that takes up half of the page
she is viscerally affected. flushing to the tips of her ears with the intensity of it. and we see it again, a few pages later
so it might seem like she's embarrassed about it and lying to herself, but... I really think it's just that Thistle is accidentally hitting sore spots. If you really look at what he says to get these reactions
"you'll live out your entire life [...] and die that way too"
"a hundred years from now, nobody will be there"
Hear me out. I think, if he stuck to harping on about her inferiority without bringing up how terrifyingly long-lived she is, she wouldn't have been as bothered. But right now, Thistle is accidentally hitting all the marks on Marcille's deepest fears-- and this is after the Winged Lion promised her that her dreams could come true in an extremely vulnerable moment, so it also hits her slightly guilty conscience as well.
I do truly believe that Marcille isn't bothered about being a half-elf the way that people assume she'd be bothered by it. To her, the biggest problem with being a half-elf is that it's isolating.
On one hand, it's not hard to imagine why she'd distance herself from elves in the west. A lot of them can clock her as a half-elf on sight, unlike other races, and therefore she's always branded with this weird stigma of being Othered -- I would even say that she considers herself lucky for being born outside of elven culture instead of having to grow up in it. I mean, just... look at the way elves talk about her.
Skipping past the uncomfortable implication of what 'not tolerating the existence' of half-elves would actually entail, this is incredibly fucking annoying. You can see why she wouldn't want to be around elves much. You see a lot of Marcille reacting badly here, but honestly, almost all of it can be attributed to her freaking out that her bluff completely failed. She's honestly more paying attention to Izutsumi's footsteps and trying to coordinate an opportunity to escape.
And in the end, you see her built-up frustration at being asked if she wants to be a full-blooded elf like 2-3 times in a row.
Yeah, yeah, "the lady doth protest too much," and all. But we know Marcille. We know that she's a lot more embarrassed and horrendously unconvincing when she's being prodded about something she's actually self-conscious about.
Moving onto the flipside of things, it might seem weird that she "pretends" to be a full elf around other races, but it's not really that strange if you think about it. Again, people are weird about her being infertile or whatever, and a lots of them don't even know much about what sets half-elves apart from everyone else. I mean, look at how uncomfortable Laios is just asking her about it
and look at how exasperated and resigned she looks
And like... she's right. Where would that come up in normal conversation? Why would she go out of her way to tell them? She's functionally a normal elf to other races anyway -- got the ears, the abnormally long "childhood", and the huge mana capacity. Unless it's directly relevant or important for people to know, I don't think it's all that strange or indicative of insecurity that she prefers not to bother with it.
(This combined with her sense of being an "outsider" to elf culture also explains why she thinks elf superiority is embarrassing. She sees the way elves treat short-lived races from the "outsider" perspective nonetheless, and thinks it's obnoxious; especially more so because she usually has to play the elf around short-lived races and deal with the reputation of arrogance that elves have built up.)
The sad thing is, this all means that... she doesn't actually fit in anywhere. She doesn't like going out West much because of how elves treat her. But she's also an outsider in the continents she was born in, treated like this exotic long-lived alien choosing to live among short-lived races for some reason. She is always an outsider, the Other, no matter where she goes. Add in the fact that she'll live longer than literally anyone she knows, and it's honestly kind of heartbreaking.
And I think that's the crux of it. Marcille really doesn't act like she's at all self-conscious about being a half-elf because of any feelings of inferiority or being half-made or whatever. She considers herself a perfectly legitimate being and might even, in some ways, consider herself superior to normal elves because she's not blind with elf supremacy or whatever. (And whatever "elven biases" she displays, all of them are born more out of the fact that she's kind of bad at conceptualizing how other races age and mature compared to herself, not that she actually considers herself better or more mature simply for being an elf.)
I think that whatever self-consciousness Marcille has about being a half-elf is, instead, related to terror and loneliness. The reminder that it ensures she'll never truly belong anywhere for the rest of her very long life. The reminder that, in truth, even she's not actually sure how old she is by other races' standards (hence the discomfort when asked how old she is). She doesn't want to not be a half elf, or be a full elf or full tall-man-- in her ideal world, she's still a half-elf. She just gets to live out her life at the same pace with the people she loves and doesn't have to say goodbye again and again and again until she dies.
and one last very important panel, right after Mithrun tells her that all her desires would be devoured
In her ideal world, she's still a half-elf and reality magically starts marching at her pace. But failing that, the second best thing is that she's still a half-elf-- but one who is able to accept reality and let go of her fear.
(But the rest of the story pans out the way it does because, to Marcille, taking reality apart and reshaping it was less scary than simply and fully reconciling with it.)
#asks#dungeon meshi manga spoilers#marcille donato#manga panel analysis#this is probably riddled with typos sorry#readmore cut bc it got long lmao#i ended up babbling about it bc it's such an important character detail to me#bc like... wow. she's so normal about it. she's literally just chilling.#the only thing that really bothers her is the material reality of it and how people treat her#the stereotypes the stigma etc. etc.#otherwise it just..#literally doesn't factor into her criteria for self-worth at all#the basic truth is that marcille likes herself on a fundamental level#she's not plagued by a deep and festering self-loathing the way a lot of characters in her archetype are#she likes herself and is proud of her successes and accomplishments#its just that shes terrified of failure and can have *episodes* of self-loathing when she fucks up#but who doesn't yknow#i know its a very slight nuance that makes very little difference in how her 'overachiever' problems manifest but its there#the sword of abandonment issues that hangs over her head has nothing to do with her self-worth or self-esteem or meeting her own standards#it has to do with the fear of not living up to *other* people's expectations and not being useful enough to be worth keeping around#she's good enough for herself but she's always so so so scared that she's not good enough for other people#i wont say much about what ryoko kui is saying using this as an allegory for real world racial biases but#dungeon meshi's treatment of marcille's relationship with her being half-elf is so incredibly important to me because it gets it so right.#a trauma about inferiority or being a half-being isn't inherent to the experience of being 'of two worlds' at all#that's something that's unfairly drilled into people by their environment#the *inherent* anguish is the loneliness. the constant longing. the fact that you are always homesick no matter where you are#always just a little bit of an outsider and never fully at home#and dungeon meshi gets that.#edit: cleaned it up a little
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I am not immune to good monster design ok- this is what peak performance looks like
#falin touden#falin dungeon meshi#chimera falin#faligon#artists on tumblr#traditional art#fanart#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#look I am a freak for good design#and when that comes with a pretty women with big feathers that can crush skulls like grapes?#ryoko kui my beloved every time I run into something she does in the manga I lose my shit because. ma’am how are you so based#tight worldbuilding unique inventive design and many characters I find myself going apeshit over#what can’t she do#octocertifiedpost
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“Only Senshi gets the fanservice shots” Bruh what are we calling Marcille covered in blood resurrecting her girlfriend with dark magic then?
#dungeon meshi#dungeon meshi spoilers#I’m not saying miss kui is one of us necessarily but she knows what we want#and also like. look at how she draws women#just look at it
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Thistle being a brown child who was parentified growing up vs. Kabru being a brown child who was infantilized growing up so interesting....
#📜 muse's voice#I didn't think about this until I saw a twt mutual bring it up but now it's all I can think about 😭#I do think it's intentional too.. kui has made some comics that are commentary on real world racism dynamics#(that side comic with Shuro where Laois was basically like 'what the hell?! This guy looks different!' 😭)#The racial dynamics with Kabru and his adopted mom are human / elf but also brown / white which adds another layer to it#Elves see 'short lived races' as something to dote over...#Rinsha has a similar thing too though it's not explored as much#But she's an Asian human girl adopted by elves who treated her badly iirc
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Sometimes I read these posts about autism in dungeon meshi and I need to ask some of you if you think Japanese people can't be autistic or know about autism.
#Gwen txt#Idk why they all start with 'I think Ryōko Kui knows what autism is'#Girl yeah she has Google and also like. Look at dungeon meshi. She knows what autism is.
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anime onlys latching onto their first impression of a character, or ignoring what they've seen is annoying, but i really dont get how a lot of people that finished the series do the same thing with kabru when he has repeated internal monologues about laios right up until meeting him. i've seen a lot of people finish it and think he's either evil or that he hates laios. when he does meet him he's finally honest, but people dont believe that, either, even after the final battle. idk if they just hate his attitude, but i dont get it when his thoughts, words, and actions all line up one way
#personal#delicious in dungeon spoilers#dungeon meshi spoilers#...i guess you could still misinterpret this. kabru is scared the demon will manipulate laios#the winged lion gives others whatever they want and it looks like a monster. kabru noticed a ton of ppl take advantage of laios#the nightmare is from a monster. not what he actually thinks.#i think he's so interesting and ryoko kui didnt even need to give us all that but she did so#this post is a bit more focused on laios but proof for other reasons hes not evil exists too
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I have… lots of thoughts on milsiril and kabru and the commentary on mixed-race family/adoption, in particular white parents with children of color. I think it’s really cool kui incorporated this into the story because lots of (particularly white) people just think adoption is this pure altruistic thing and don’t think about the negative affects it has on kids (again, kids of color) to not have people of their own culture to grow up with.
#I’m white so I can’t pretend this is something I am able to fully understand#and I feel like it’s not my place to write an essay on it? I’m sure poc could do it a lot better than me#but someone who is close to me is a poc in a kind of kabru adjacent situation#and I don’t want to give details bc this is personal and (obviously) not just to me so I don’t really want to talk about it too much#my point is. kabru ans milsiril just hit me really hard#I really love that kui made their relationship a relatively good one for the most part but she doesn’t just pretend it’s perfect#because it’s like. even if your parents are the best they can possibly be.l#if they don’t understand your culture that’s still a huge loss isn’t it?#and milsirils parenting skills….. definitely need a lot of work even if she means well#and the description of her adoptions as a ‘hobby’ makes it seem rather flippant imo#(not sure if that was just a translation thing tho)#but my impression is that kabru does still think of her fondly and is grateful for her taking him in and teaching him things#at the same time he does voice his frustrations about the cultural disconnect between them and her being ‘overprotective’#but yeah#like that kind of thing needs to be talked about I’m grateful that she not just doesn’t shy away from it but puts it in your face like that#.txt#dungeon meshi#oh also clarification#when I say kui talks about this stuff I do mean as an allegory#bc while I don’t think it is at all a coincidence that kabru is dark skinned and milsiril is white (coded?)#their skin color doesn’t really come into account here#it’s really the disconnect between elves and tall-men#but look me in the eye and tell me that’s not what she was going for
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if that elf's ARFID is treated with more grace than the fans certainly treat her then i'll read dunmeshi
#ikildaman shut the fuck up#+it doesnt matter if she doesnt actually have disordered eating nobody corrent me ad nauseum#mischaracterisation for 1 post sure is a small price 2 pay in the name of Google Arfid#and like.... sure....#by all means the complaints ive seen about how she acts abt food/some food cld just be a symptom#of it being written to be really fucking annoying.#if thats the case tho i just wont pick it up then will i. lmaos#but from what i've heard and seen ryoko kui is quite the opposite of fucking stupid so i'd like to hope theres a good chance she#may have also written this ''''pickyness'''' with some informed intent#'why is she like that esp when the food looks so good shes so annoying....' we can hear you. haha. we can hear you
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caant stop thinking about that comic i reblogged earlier about canon genderbent laios being a miserable housewife. but what if she also went to the bar with her baby. hi
#like pushing labru yuri out of the way bc idrc. just thinking about how horrid she would be as a mom like not on purpose but Ahh.#like did miss kui understand the levels of Psychological damage she was unleashing with that What if laios was a woman comic. everytime i#think about it i start clutching my head and moaning in pain like Aaaaa. ok so shes the same personality wise with the same passions and#dreams and Freak tendencies#but no outlet for them and no one around who Gets her (bevause either way falin leaves for magic school) and no way to pursue those things#just forced to settle down and have kids way too young and live life unfulfilled and repressed and always feeling like you dont belong. ahaa
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I finally finished Dungeon Meshi!!! Very fun read and amazing charaters!! The hype i have for the anime now is unreal!
#dungeon meshi#im talking#i have so much to say...but idek where to start#delicious in dungeon#Im gonna put spoilers in the tags so :) warning ig#delicious in dugeon spoilers#EVERYTHING With Laios tbh he is a Himbo through and through#like kind of heart dumb of ass and strong as hell🥰🥰🥰🥰🤤#he was cute at the end with a bit of a tummy#Ryoko Kui just played D&D with herself for 97 chapters but damn what an phenomenal story she told#All the characters felt so fleshed (lol) out and had goals and fears of their own#Senshi was another favorite of mine🤤🤤🤤🤤 need that man ASAP#I want Senshi so bad-----oop who said that :O#Marcille was also very cute and i liked her motived#her final boss dress was v cute i liked it a lot and i wanna draw it#Chilchuck🥺🥺🥺🥺 hes my dad now actually. the dad who left for milk but got a new family ig#AND IZUTSUMI!!!!! MY GIRLIE!!!!😍😍😍 shes so adorable ugh i love her.#OVERALL: this was one of the best series ive read in a while!!!#10/10 i recommended!!! amazing art. amazing story. fantastic charater designs!!! yup!#I also forgot to mention Laios curse being that monsters wouldnt get near him too😭💔💔 im sorry king
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Anyone else here think about Laios/Shuro/Kabru or is it just me
#listen. listen. labru AND laishuro are equally hilarious and both have so much “sir you have a crush on that man” energy#dungeon meshi#labru#laishuro#what would their ot3 ship name even be? laishubru? kalairo? idfk man I just think kabru has a crush on laios & laios has one on shuro#and eventually they can all figure it out and kiss about it#both kabru AND shuro genderbend art from ryoko kui has them be into/dating laios that has to mean something!!#marcille would be the biggest supporter of laishuro too cuz that means he's finally over falin lmao. she's petty like that and I love her#this ot3 has ONE fic on ao3 lol. I'm in the trenches here
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What I really love about the Daydream Hour art is that it really shows that the characters in Dungeon Meshi aren’t just characters in a story, but they’re Ryoko Kui’s ocs. And sure maybe this is a perk that’s granted to mangakas that release on a monthly schedule opposed to weekly IDK but there’s just some about getting to see different interpretations of the characters and peeks into what she draws in her free time outside the story.
Like look Marcille likes to dance
And here’s the characters in Halloween costumes
Taking Covid precautions
And like I just love how casually she draws and depicts the characters in her personal work. There’s something for quite literally all the characters and like I said maybe other mangakas don’t have or can’t find the time to do so or choose to not release their personal work like she does but I think these pieces just make the characters feel more alive. Like she’s an oc artist through and through lol
#dungeon meshi#delicious in dungeon#ryoko kui#daydream hour#I have so many of these saved to my phone#I could talk about them for hours#laios touden#falin touden#marcille donato#chilchuk tims#senshi#itsuzumi#kabru dungeon meshi#namari#m
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Very interesting to see peoples reaction to seeing manga/anime that is horny but not in a shitty creepy way for the first time
#the way people talk about kui is so fucking weird because shes like a normal person#instead of a creep that gets off from demeaning women and children like most popular mangaka are. idk whats hard to get here
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dungeon meshi is over for real
#i just read the last chapter and like#i cant believe it.#its over. no more dungeon meshi#what a wild ride#im glad i caught up before the manga finished after my hiatus#because damn#ryoko kuis art is so fucking beautiful#and the way she manages to capture a story and characters that feel so alive#my heart is full and bursting and i am crying about it#thank you kui...#thank you for giving us your beautiful story#with your beautiful characters#and your beautiful world#about what it means to eat and live and be happy#definitely going to be one of my most favorite stories of all time now#personal
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