My friend just sent me this picture of Nightwing and...

Spot the difference, honestly.

guys did u know that i’m dndads s2 dood was a bad girl

they did some bad things

they swear they did it all for fun and it meant nothing

I feel like JoJo Siwa is getting an uncomfortable and unreasonable amount of hate and gross comments. She just comes off to me as your standard baby gay. I honestly think if she wasn't publicly out as liking women and embracing that then she wouldn't be getting nearly as much hate.

Jojo Siwa: I'm creating a new genre called gay pop

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it's extremely funny to me that people are shitting on JoJo Siwa's rebrand by, among other things, comparing it unfavorably to Miley Cyrus' Bangerz era. I've heard several people give the take that Bangerz Miley was legitimately shocking and effective, while Karma feels like a weak attempt to do something similar and like... I can't help but think that a full decade of distance has completely distorted people's memory of the public reaction to Bangerz. Like I distinctly remember EVERYONE going in on Miley for that era. Literally all parties from all sides of american culture came together for a brief period of time in 2013 to dunk on her for being a white girl with no ass trying to twerk. She was cringe, she was trying too hard, she was too raunchy, she was appropriating black culture, she was using black women as props, the music sounded like shit. I cannot remember anyone in 2013 saying a single good thing about the Bangerz era so it makes absolutely no sense to me that people are acting like JoJo getting relentlessly shitted on, albeit for slightly different reasons, is a sign that her rebrand has failed and her career is over when Miley fully bounced back from that criticism and is now a goddamn grammy winner. What makes you think that JoJo's career arc will be any different? Like yes she's attracting a different kind of negative attention than Miley did but it's still the same principle, it's still just doing some crazy shit with the mindset of "all publicity is good publicity". You're still giving her earned media, you are literally getting played like a fiddle by this woman and giving her exactly what she wants. Oml in a decade's time JoJo will be putting out music people actually like and everyone will pretend like Karma was a genius career move and none of this ever happened because the cultural memory is ipad baby levels of abyssmal

Everyone's dunking on jojo siwa for being cringe and dressing strange like she's not out living up to her name and having a bizarre adventure

jojo siwa claiming she's revitalizing gay pop and releasing 'karma' on the same night as conan gray's 'found heaven' and chappell roan's 'good luck babe' is so poetically ironic. it's like the universe WANTS to draw a comparison between jojo and queer pop artists.

the thing that makes queer pop compelling as a genre is the unique storytelling and experiences of queer artists told through their music. that doesn't necessarily mean every song by a queer artist has to be about their queerness. they don't have to scream "hey i'm gay!" in every single song they write. but claiming to be "reinventing gay pop" should mean you're telling interesting stories about your queer experience, right???

'found heaven' by conan gray is about growing up as a queer kid with religious guilt and disapproving parents. he equates being in love in an authentic way to "finding heaven", and the piece as a whole resonates with a TON of queer people in different stages of their lives. some people can look back at their childhoods and how much they've grown since then, some can relate because they're currently going through what conan's written about, and some people can sympathize with the way some queer people are treated, even if they aren't necessarily queer themselves.

'good luck babe' is a song about queerness and compulsory heterosexuality. chappell sings about a woman she was in a relationship with who decided to settle down in a conventional marriage despite being queer. the song reflects the denial a lot of queer people go through (specifically regarding the lesbian experience) and the unfortunate way a lot of them end up repressing who they are to conform to societal standards. it's fun, it's campy, but its message is still poignant.

as for karma… there's nothing inherently queer about that song. the music video for the original version, ‘karma’s a bitch’ by brit smith, featured a heterosexual storyline. jojo buying the rights to a song she didn't write isn't inherently a bad thing, a lot of mainstream artists do that all the time. however, if you're claiming to be a pioneer of the “gay pop” genre and your music doesn't reflect any queer themes or experiences, is it really “gay pop”? again, queer artists don't have to write exclusively about their queerness, but if you try to present yourself as a voice for the queer community without telling any of their stories, you're not going to be lauded as some revolutionary figure. if any of the songs on jojo’s album are actually about her experience as a lesbian or contain any queer themes, then i think she'd qualify as a “gay pop” artist. but so far, she's given us a faux edgy, generic pop song and tried to market it as some insane never-been-done-before feat. and honestly, if her entire album is like this and she continues to market herself this way, it's a slap in the face to all the genuine artists and storytellers in the queer community.

but let's stop talking about jojo siwa and start talking about the incredible queer artists who are truly breathing life into the "gay pop" genre: chappell roan, renee rapp, ben platt, conan gray, girl in red, kevin atwater, baby queen, mitski, clairo, dodie, and SO MANY MORE (feel free to add on some of your favourites because there are so many wonderful artists out there <3)

also: if you have a different perspective on this situation i would absolutely love to hear what you think and if you agree / disagree with this! i love discussing topics like this so feel free to reblog with your own take

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It's sad and disheartening to see how many predators and generally bad people JoJo Siwa has been around since she's been a little kid and how much she's defending them now as an adult with a huge platform and immense influence.

Going to Howie Mandel's show to defend Colleen Ballinger and calling her victims liars basically... while she herself was a child that Colleen befriended as an adult... I'm sad for her. But I'm also mad at her.

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Jojo Siwa for Paper Magazine.

Jojo Siwa for Paper Magazine by Oscar Ouk

Queer artists like JoJo Siwa really do themselves and everyone else a disservice by acting like they are the first ones to make things about queerness. I’ll admit that explicitly queer music and media were not things that were readily accessible to me as a teenager but that doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. I think there’s something much more powerful in saying “I am apart of a legacy of creators in this community, I have opportunities they dreamed of because they fought for us to be able to have them, and I want to honor that by being open and proud in ways they weren’t able to” than to pretend like your work exists in a vacuum and that you have the groundbreaking idea to make queer media.

The anti Jojo siwa frankly homophobic social contagion is making me rage out. It's literally just because she's an arrogant (positive) dyke which she has been giving since she was like twelve or whatever. It's fucking stupid. She didn't do anything to you but be a confident lesbian. The general public cannot even begin to imagine what it's like to be a child star constrained by your brand and the only move to be to pivot to a new brand (which probably is still being managed!) she is genuinely really talented. the allegations against her abusive momager (btw who do you think was the primary recipient of that behavior) being used as an excuse to mock her style, her DYKE VOICE, the lesbian sexuality in the new video... it's fucking insane. I don't usually get worked up about pop culture but it's just literally blatantly homophobic. Mnot liking the song or video is not what I'm talking about. Certainly anyone reading this in good faith who's been following the response can ascertain what I do mean