I have to much faith in my CringeFail Queen but I’m gonna make a guess on Furina anyways
So, Furina.
Some leakers say she’s gonna give up her position as the archon, some people say that’s bullshit, and I don’t know what to think.
I love her, personally, and I want to see her keep her archonhood, but logically it makes sense to me why she’d give it up. She’s a coward, a brat, a celebrity. She doesn’t actually have it in her to be an archon. It makes sense why Furina would give up her status and give it to someone more capable, Neuvillette, because she’s not stupid. She’s incompetent.
But I personally don’t think that’s gonna happen, or rather I think if it does happen, then it’s a bad move narratively.
Hoyo has said that all archons after Zhongli were gonna be female, so it does give me some hope that Furina will stay a god, but mthe narrative is what’s important to me right now.
Furina has done nothing yet. She’s accused Lyney of murder and then got owned in her own courtroom. That’s about it so far. She had two tea parties with Arlecchino and in is mostly to intimidated or scared to do or say anything. Furina has just been sitting there, a looming presence over the narrative.
Yet, at the end of Act 2, Neuvillette says that Furina is also taking the prophecy seriously and in Act 4 she actually stands her ground against Arlecchino for, like, two seconds.
We trust Neuvillette. I trust Neuvillette. If he says that Furina is taking the prophecy seriously, I believe him. And when Furina yelled at Arlecchino I had genuine hope that she was going to fight back and reveal some competence. She didn’t, but that moment should be seen as an eye opener: Furina does have the capability to be competent in her role as archon.
In Act 4, Arlecchino suspects there is a curse on Furina. And multiple times Furina is mentioned or seen, she’s mentioned to “act weird.” We’ve only ever seen her in her white form, Pneuma, but her splash art has her in a black outfit, for Ousia.
If anyone has seen her leaked kit as well, then it should come as no surprise what I’m gonna talk about now: her Arkhe.
Lyney and Freminet both are Pneuma aligned. Lynette is Ousia. Even Neuvillette is locked to one Arkhe alignment, Pneuma I think (I don’t have him so let me know if I’m wrong).
If I were to make predictions on the not yet released characters, I’d guess Wriothesley, Clorinde, and maybe Navia are all Ousia and Charolette is Pneuma.
But Furina is both: Pheuma and Ousia.
And Furina created the Oratrice, which turns belief into Indemnitium which powers all of Fontaine.
I suspect that Furina’s curse is that she accidentally locked herself into one state, her Pneuma state. Meanwhile her Ousia state is what’s powering the Oratrice.
I also suspect that Furina doesn’t know that. Obviously, when Arlecchino asks her what the Oratrice is for, Furina is unable to answer. That’s pretty much handed to us, but I think what I’m aiming for is that Furina has forgot because of Indemnitium.
So, hear me out, Furina doesn’t have her gnosis right? Arlecchino reveals that she found this out when she tried to assassinate Furina to take it. Yet, in that cut scene, one thing stuck out to me: The Lack of Hydro.
Venti can control Anemo without his Gnosis. Zhongli can control Geo without his Gnosis. Raiden has been controlling electro without her Gnosis. And now Nahida, the youngest and most inexperienced archon, is controlling Dendro without her Gnosis.
But when Furina was almost assassinated, she did not pull out Hydro to defend herself. Without her Gnosis, Furina— as the archon— should be able to control her element still. But she’s never actually seen wielding Hydro, and in a life or death moment I feel like— no matter how incompetent she is— Furina would call upon her powers in some capacity to protect herself. If not making hydro weapons to fight Arlecchino, then making a hydro bubble for Furina to hide in or use as a shield.
Furina is never seen wielding the element of Hydro, and what’s more is that she backs down from every fight. She challenges us, we accept, she backtracks. She yells at Childe, he challenges her, and she backtracks. She challenges Arlecchino on her position as an Archon, Arlecchino rises to that challenge, and Furina backtracks.
I don’t just think the Oratrice has the Gnosis, I think that Furina does have the Gnosis, but it’s not Pneuma Furina. I think, inside the Oratrice, a more competent Furina aligned with Ousia is waiting to be merged back into her real body.
For the longest time I thought the Oratrice was there because Furina wanted literally anything else to do her job for her. Now, I think the Oratrice is made with an entirely different purpose.
We don’t know what the Oratrice does or why it was created, all we know is that it turns the belief of justice into Indemnitium, but we don’t know what Indemnitium is either.
My big theory is that Furina created the Oratrice as a master plan in solving the Prophecy Crisis: she found a powerful source of energy that could potentially rewrite fate itself if enough is harvested. Furina built it and made it’s target on the very thing her godhood is built on, Justice, but didn’t realize that a machine of this great importance and power needs something equally as important and powerful. So when the Oratrice was built, it immediately started searching for justice to convert into Indemnitium. And a god, especially a god with a Gnosis, is pretty much the exact fuel it needs to power up and run forever. The Oratrice aimed to consume Furina herself and convert her into the resource but Furina knew she needed to be alive in order to feed the Oratrice the correct source of power and actually collect Indemnitium. So, Furina split herself in two. Furina’s Ousia side held onto the Gnosis, whether she wanted to or not, while Furina’s Pneuma side escaped without the faintest idea as to what just happened and why.
Ousia Furina is probably only still alive because she has the Gnosis, meanwhile Pneuma Furina knows that the Oratrice is important and that she has to keep up the trials but doesn’t know why or what for.
In the next act/acts, I think Furina— with the help of Neuvillette and the rest of the Fontaine gang— are going to uncover the secrets with the Oratrice, revealing the long suffering Ousia Furina that’s been slowly eaten by the machine of her own creation. Ousia Furina will be absorbed back into Pneuma Furina and, with the two halves combined, Furina will remember what the Oratrice was made for, what Indemnitium is, and will have a huge boost in competence and confidence.
Am I just pulling shit out of my ass? Probably. But if you’ll indulge me, I just personally think the narrative will be better if Furina remains the archon. I feel like Neuvillette was made to be competent, serious, powerful one on purpose: to make everyone point at him and say “He should be the archon!”
And I agree, Neuvi deserves to be the highest authority in Fontaine, and I honestly believe he will be. If Furina steps down as archon, I don’t think she’s doing it for real. If I’m right, Furina is still heavily important to Fontaine because she will have to fill in as the Oratrice. Yet, I can see Furina stepping down for show: a way to make the Fatui back off from her so that they stop targeting a naive and scared girl. If Furina steps down, it’s a win win, Neuvillette doesn’t have to worry about her or her incompetence and Furina gets to go mingle and truly bond with her people as person to person rather than mascot to fans. But I just don’t think anyone can “step down” from being a god. There is no “step down.”
I mean, did Nahida’s story tell us nothing? For years she compared herself to Rukkhadevata. She felt so small and insignificant compared to her, like she’d never catch up. And when Rukkhadevata exhausted her strength, she didn’t just turn from God to Mortal, she went from a big, grown goddess to a little, naive one.
Furina is going to remain the Hydro Archon. It would be a bad move if she somehow wasn’t the god anymore, because we still have the unanswered question of the Oratrice.
IF I AM CORRECT, then Furina will remain the Archon but possibly “step down” for safety reasons. Then, at the end of the Acts she’ll either reveal she still is the Archon or will continue to pretend because it gives her something to use as a shield. Whether publicly or not, Furina will have to take the role of the Oratrice, using her divine powers over justice to confirm the final verdict.
That just ties up so much nicer than “just give it to Neuvillette he’s already doing all the work anyways”
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Why Jesus is a Seer of Life: an essay about the Homestuck Class and Aspect of the Son of God.
(Disclaimer: I do not, and I repeat DO NOT, intend to disrespect religion in any way. This is just my analysis based on what we know about Jesus and how it can be applied in the context of the classification of Homestuck classpects. If you think I’ve said something disrespectful, or factually wrong, please let me know!!! Also, this essay contains spoilers for all of Homestuck, and I’m assuming you already know at least the general story)
Hello :3 my name is Valery and right now I’m very into Homestuck!!! I really like this webcomic. Specifically, I’m very fixated on classpects because I find them incredibly amusing so I like to mix and match them and try to classpect certain characters.
If you don’t know what a classpect is, is basically a title given for a character in Homestuck. This title is based on a Class and an Aspect, like an rpg. There are a total of twelve Classes and Aspects, and every combination explains something about the characters. If you are interested in finding out your Aspect, you can take the quiz on the official test of the Extended Zodiac. I recommend it!!!
Now, I’ve seen some people talk about the classpect of Jesus, and I actually thought about it for a while. After a discussion with some other people in the official Homestuck discord, I came to the conclusion that Jesus is a hero of Life, specifically a Seer. Here’s why I think so.
Some fans tried to cite the canon context, by saying Jesus is a Prince of Life, an adjective canonically used in the Bible to refer to him. I haven’t read the Bible so I’m absolutely open to corrections, but I do not agree on this: firstly because in the context of the Bible, the title of Prince is far different from the meaning it has on Homestuck.
I cite: “Jesus Christ is the Prince of Life. This is true because Jesus has life like no one else; no one could take His life from Him – He had to give up His life (John 10:17-18). This is true because Jesus won life for His people on their behalf – He didn’t just win life for Himself, but for His people. This is true because Jesus gives life abundantly – the Prince of Life can give life. This is true because Jesus sustains our life, and He rules over life. In every sense, Jesus is the Prince of Life!” (Source: https://enduringword.com/prince-of-life/)
In this context the title of Prince is considered someone who gives life for others. But I feel like I need to give more context of how Classes and Aspects work in the comic.
In Homestuck, the Class of the Prince is a destructive Class, counterpart to the passive Class of the Bard. The Prince is someone who destroys Aspect, or destroy through Aspect.
an Aspect will always opposite of another Aspect: Space is opposite of Time, Mind is opposite of Heart, Rage is opposite of Hope, Breath is opposite of Blood, Light is opposite of Void and Doom is opposite of Life. In Homestuck, based on your Class, it may happen that you mirror your opposite Aspect, and this applies particularly to the Classes of exploitation like the Knight and the Page, and the destructive Classes like the Bard and the Prince.
All the Princes we saw canonically in Homestuck mirrored their opposite Aspect, even acting like they were devoid of their Aspect: Dirk Strider, the Prince of Heart, was schematic and rational like a Mind player, even defining himself as Heartless. Eridan Ampora, the Prince of Hope, was stubborn and bringer of Chaos like a Rage player, and stated to his friends that they were all Hopeless. Not only that, but he also actively destroys the Matriorb, the thing that would restart the troll race in a new universe, quite literally destroying any Hope his race had.
As stated before, the Life Aspect is opposite to the Doom Aspect: Life is described as the Aspect of healing, providing and empathy in the sense of searching for a way to help. Meanwhile, the Doom is the Aspect of fate, rules and empathy in the sense of listening to you and letting you vent. So, a Prince of Life would mirror a Doom player, in the sense that they start out as fatalistic and Lifeless, and as someone who destroys Life or destroys through Life.
Again, I have not read the Bible, but I think that even those who have can see that this description of Jesus simply doesn’t suit him. It’s way too negative and destructive for someone like him, someone who went ahead and said to love and respect. So I did my researches, and in the end I came to the conclusion that the Seer of Life is the best title for the Son of God. My conclusion is motivated by may things:
First off, the definition: the Seer Class is described as a passive knowledge Class, counterpart to the Mage, and is one who sees and sees through their Aspect. Contrary to the Mage Class that already has experience, Seers starts out not knowing much about their Aspect, and have to learn about it as they progress.
An example of this is my favourite Beta Kid and the canonical Seer of Light, Rose Lalonde: Light is the Aspect of fortune and knowledge, so Rose was able to see best incomes and paths on how to win the game she was playing with her friends. In order to fulfil their Aspect, a Seer has to search a way where their Knowledge can get to others, and we can also see this in Terezi, the Seer of Mind, when she gave clear instructions on what John had to do to fix the main timeline.
It’s shown that Seers starts off not having much of their Aspect in their life and/or are surrounded in an ambient that reflects their opposite Aspect, so that is why they must search and learn as much as they can. Also, it’s canon in the webcomic that Seers are able to see the past and the future, regardless of their Aspect.
This is why I believe this Class fits for Jesus: Jesus was able to see a peaceful life, where people could just love and respect each other. He was a preacher who talked to his followers, in an ambient where everything seemed doomed. He was able to see a better future.
And this is not all, because I also want to mention the biggest reason why I believe he is a Seer: the character of Kankri and the Singless.
The Singless was a troll who was able to see his pre-scratch self, Kankri, in a world where trolls lived in harmony and free of violence. He had followers who listened to him, and gave his final sermon as he was executed. His preachings were saved by his most devoted follower and lover, the Disciple, so that his memory could live on.
In a sense, Kankri and the Singless are the same person, and I believe the pre and post scratch trolls share the same Classpect. The Classpect of Kankri is the Seer of Blood, and it’s implied he was able to see the events of his post scratch version. Kankri also has the habits of speaking in very long speeches, and actively seeks to find the best outcomes and ways to make sure everyone is united and safe. This connection is also a reason why I believe Jesus is a Seer.
Now, for the Aspect of Life, I cite: “Those bound to the aspect of Life are the universe's healers. They are concerned with the betterment of themselves and those around them, as well as the onward march of positive progress. Deeply empathetic, they have an intuitive understanding of other's suffering and the best way of righting those wrongs. This applies to both physical and mental suffering, though it might not be a cure you'll like. They also have the tendency to put other's needs before their own.“ (Source: http://hs.hiveswap.com/ezodiac/aboutaspects.php)
I think this description explains itself on why I picked this Aspect: Jesus wanted the idea of a better world to live on, and many people rejected his message because his ideals weren’t liked or understood. He forgive all of humanity and put our sins before him, taking the responsibility of them.
That’s it!!! Let me know what you think. I conclude by saying I also believe Judah was a Thief of Doom and God a Lord of Space. I might explain why in another post, because this one is already long enough :3.
P.S: just to make sure people don’t need to ask me the same questions:
“Are you okay?”
yes I am!!! This took like, forty minutes and it’s all from memory expect the sources so it wasn’t that tiring.
“Why did you do this?“
I seriously don’t know why but the classification of classpect has switched something into my brain, I don’t think I’ve ever put so much energy in researching and analysis. I think I got fixated.
“Homestuck sounds crazy! Should I read it?”
I genuinely believe that it’s worth reading at least once in life, especially if you’re around the age of 13-18. It has one of the best characters I’ve ever read, amazing dialogues, music and animation, and i believe it really gets you if you’re able to read it all.
“Too Long Didn’t Read”
Jesus is a Seer of Life because he sees Life and shares knowledge of Life. He has connections with the character Kankri/The Singless, a Seer of Blood.
“What is your Classpect?”
While I’m convinced I’m a Hero of Heart, I’m quite unsure on the Class, because I relate to all the passive classes lmao. Right now I’m settling to the Muse of Heart :3
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