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dmclemblems · 2 years

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Another thing worth mentioning about Claude's relationship with his parents: despite his feelings of admiration for his mother and despite remembering the bedtime stories his father told him, he still never writes to them. He can contact Nader no problemo (can even have him IN FODLAN, and for extended periods of time!), but his supports with Hilda also show off that he's so disconnected from his parents he's actually not even sure they're still alive.

Claude: Well, that's a fine thing to do, regardless of your reasons. As for me, it's been far too long since I've written to my parents...

Hilda: Oh? I thought your father had died.

Claude: Not quite. He's still alive and kicking...as far as I know.

So on top of the Horse Incident... the "deal with the assassins yourself tiny child" thing... the fact that Claude ran away without telling his dad (if we go by Hopes) and without his mom seeming to give a shit that he's leaving all by himself... the act that going by Hopes Daddy-o is doing Literally Nothing about his children trying to violently invade his lover's homeland, and nothing about his children trying to murder each other for his throne... yeah these two are incredibly shitty parents, Gilbert could never dream of being this bad lmao.

But like, I also kinda like how... real? I guess? Claude's reaction to this is. He loves his parents, and he'll have open admiration for at least his mother, but then he starts talking about the other stuff and it's like "oh, that sounds like an abuse victim." Hearing him talk about how he "deserved" to either be dragged around by a horse or helplessly tied to its saddle as it runs around (depending on which version) shocked me when I first heard it, because "I was being bad I deserved to get hit by my parents" is such a huge red flag hearing someone say.

Plus how fondly he looks back on that memory - like you said, he was probably so elated to have his parents pay attention to him that the means in what they did so literally meant nothing to him (and could also tie into why he remembered those bedtime stories so well; another rare moment of his parent's attention being given to him) And him making the active effort to not talk to his parents once he ran away makes it so much worse, and hearing him still hold such fondness for them anyway in his A support with Byleth is almost more sad than it is endearing.

I'm honestly also surprised that the fandom just never acknowledges this? They act like Claude's parents are so cool for the most part, when his are legit some of the worst 3H has to offer and he's such a clear case of an abused child it's not even funny.

For real lol. People bash Gilbert for leaving his family while completely ignoring all the context about why. Meanwhile they celebrate badass Almyran king and queen despite that they’re horrible to Claude and probably all of their children as far as the king goes.

I also appreciate how Claude’s situation is complicated regarding his parents. Even abused children can still love their parents and it’s a very difficult situation. It’s a cycle of being abused then the parents will do something nice for the child, and that child believes they love them now and will be nice to them going forward. When that doesn’t happen, they remember the good things and try to tell themselves that their parents aren’t all bad and that there’s good in there. They love them for the nice things they do and tend to want more of it, so they stick around hoping to see that more.

Once Claude got old enough I’d imagine he probably realized it wasn’t normal and decided enough was enough. Even if he just wanted attention from his parents, I’m sure he could only take so much of what he went through between the assassinations and nobody really caring about him. Hilda was right to be shocked and horrified at what Claude went through, because that’s just... not normal. Also, if a child comes to believe they deserved the treatment, it’s because the parents made them think they deserved it and the child starts to accept it even if the punishment is reprehensible.

Even though Claude tends to brush this stuff off like it’s all in the past, it’s clearly affected him and his ability to trust people and form emotional connections. Like I said above, he remembers the good things fondly because it was the only positive attention he could get. He doesn’t fondly remember being punished and just speaks casually of it, but he shows no happiness for it. I’m sure Tiana does love him, but it also sounds like she either is afraid to go against her husband’s ways or just changed for the worse. Maybe the king does also love Claude, but it doesn’t excuse how terribly he treated him. Fact is, you’re only a child once and once you’re scarred from your childhood, you can’t just fix that.

Him not talking to his parents after leaving is a good step forward for him tbh. Cutting off contact regardless of how “sad” they might be is what you have to do in that situation. It’s like when toxic parents want their children to live with them to use them for selfish reasons, and they gaslight their kids so they can get what they want and be controlling. In that situation all you can really do is cut them out of your life. Of course, there’s always the whole giving them another chance in the future kind of thing, but if they continue acting like that then you cut them out permanently.

In Claude’s case I think he did the right thing to leave his father hanging like that, because boo hoo the king is so sad he can’t rule properly, but how do we not know that wasn’t intentional acting so that hopefully the information would reach Claude that he was acting like that? Maybe he could make Claude feel bad and come home... and the cycle would just continue. When parents act sad like that and “miss” their child despite having previously abused them in any form, it’s usually meant to manipulate the child’s emotions and make them come back. If your kids are trying to kill each other for whatever reason, how does that not make you more depressed than your most abused and bullied child running away from home and getting away from all that?

Personally I never found his stories about his life to be endearing. I found all of it to be depressing and upsetting. He may be older in the time of the game and know how to better manage that stuff, but it’s always worth noting that he was just a little boy when all this happened to him. Kids can get scared so easily and yet he acts like none of it actually really affected him, despite that any child being put through all that would traumatize them. All of that shows in his personality through his relationships and his inability to notice he’s pressing too hard on someone’s emotions until after it’s already done. He’s literally still in the learning process of how to understand other people’s emotions at the age of 18.

Having any fond memories of his abusers is exactly what a lot of abuse victims go through. I’m honestly shocked most of the fandom doesn’t look at his experiences as being legitimately terrible. His parents aren’t cool or badass. They’re terrible parents and not people who even deserve to call him their child. They certainly didn’t treat him like parents should treat their children. No child should be growing up in those circumstances.

The funny thing about the whole “bad parent” thing with Fodlan’s parents is that with Faerghus, they’re not only pretty decent parents, but then you get Matthias, who, well, more or less neglected his children (rather than abused them). Difference being, in Hopes he actually admits to knowing he was a bad father to Sylvain (and presumably Miklan who is still alive and well in that timeline as it’s GW he says this to Sylvain in). Then you have Lambert, who Rodrigue believes Dimitri losing would be horrible for Dimitri. Lambert decides that if he does die, he can safely leave Dimitri to Rodrigue. He had an idea, some sort of plan, if he were to die where his child would be safely in the care of someone who loved him. Rodrigue loved Glenn so much that he never stopped looking for answers about Duscur, coming across all kinds of valuable information about things that didn’t concern Glenn simply because he was distraught and had to know why his son had to die that day (and no, it wasn’t because he was a true knight. That was Rodrigue’s distressed way of coping. When he was in a better state of mind, he investigated the situation to get real answers. That’s the proof he wasn’t satisfied with the idea of leaving it at “Glenn was just doing his job”). Regarding Felix, Felix was the one who didn’t want to talk to Rodrigue, so Rodrigue backed off and let his son have space, but always looked out for him and tried to get closer to him. There was only so much he could do, but he did what little he could because he cared about Felix, even if Felix would walk away mad. Rodrigue just wanted his son in good hands.

That’s a pretty massive contrast to leaving your child vulnerable to assassins who are also partially your other children by not protecting him. Faerghus’ fathers would 110% absolutely have someone’s head for trying to harm their child, much less kill their child. No child deserves to have to fight their own battles, and no child deserves to have to rely on themselves to survive. Even with animals, you see the mother raise her young until they’re old enough to leave their home. Birds, cats, rabbits, you name it. They take care of their babies and keep them safe at home until they’re old enough to wander and get their own food and live outside of a confined area for their safety. It’s pretty much instinctual.

If Claude were real, all the stuff he went through would be such a big deal. I wish more people saw that because it’s good writing as far as Claude is concerned, but it also means his parents weren’t as amazing as other people say they are. Notice how it’s always other characters talking about how great they are, but Claude never has very good things to say about them that extend beyond basically “look they gave me attention once or twice every half a year”.

#and then i wrapped tiny claude in a blanket and put him on a soft warm bed #i put my cat next to him so he could hear her pur and sleep in peace while i guarded the door #he also got snacks before bed because he deserves good sneccs #i check on him too while he sleeps and ensure he is having a peaceful sleep #yes i canonically did this i was there i did these things he's just shy and won't tell ppl abt it #it is perfectly okay and i will continue to look after him even when he is a grown boy #i think i just adopted claude. well buddy i hope u like your stay #DCE Ask

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sevarix-blogs · 2 years

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anon asks ranting about 3h.opes / negative (but not mean toward me) also some spoilers

After being on an emotional tug of war since the demo dropped, I’ve made my peace with this game. It’s a non canon what if/retcon bad ending of Fodlan without Byleth. I going to enjoy it for what is and replay 3Hs to was the bad taste of my mouth. I never want to hear invalid complaints about Byleth again and what “personality” they show in Hopes was always in Houses because voice acting is the be all end all right?/s I do like their VAs though and glad they can show off how good Byleth is more.

YEAh exactly, i mean on one hand i'm glad it shows that the story without byleth as the hero just sucks lol it's like they're trying to confirm that 3houses was the better of the 2 situations. but also byleth always had this personality like you said.

Devs: we don’t want to replace Byleth. Devs: replaces Byleth with a worse version of them that reaps off Byleth’s benefits they never earn or deserve that still leads to bad ending anyway. WTF devs.

I KNOW RIGHT???? like i just played the paralogue where rhea gives doofus a freakin saint's relic????? and i'm like???? why do you trust this idiot????? byleth made sense. doofus does not

If anything it makes So//this truly a worst mom, as By//leth's worst moments are when she possess them. And Ar//val does that too in the "recruit demon" path. It feels sickening as that enables Egg//gord's 'gods sux' spiel.

sothis definitely got character assassinated in this game too. i'm wondering if it's something like, she remembers the past and that arval is an agarthan (just my speculation, but i mean come on. everything is pointing to arval being agarthan)

This game made me appreciate 3 Houses more than I already did. I need to rant a bit too; as a female Byleth fan I NEVER want to hear complaints about her design again when female Shez was welcome with her big boobs while having as much cleavage and skin showing. I already know it’s because she can talk because talking is the only way to have a personality/s. These past few months have made me so bitter.

i do feel like doofus got hypocritical praise from the byleth haters. it made me pretty bitter too. i still don't really like doofus but for additional reasons after playing the game

If you don’t recruit Byleth they disappear after killing Rodrigue/Randolph/Judith. No closure with Sothis hijacking their body. Even if you do recruit them, nothing but 2 Supports and a role so minor they may as well not even be there. Why the fuck are they even on the cover? The lords weren’t enough to sell this game?

I KNOW RIGHT??? putting byleth on the cover was such a money grab. even the first trailer made byleth look like a bigger character in the game

I hope you can handle this character assassination mess of a game. Now that no golden ending has been confirmed I might as buy it. I’m letting loose on SB villain route and everything burns.🔥 If I can’t have Byleth and their non-Edelgard relationships then fuck all of Fodlan.😈 I’m petty and don’t care anymore.

LOL i like how you think anon. not sure if i can handle SB yet but i might fly through it if i get bored some day. but on the topic of character assassination, i know claude probably got it the worst, but even dimitri and yuri have moments where i'm just like 'this isn't them :('

jumping on the "annoyed by shez" train, and this is just a personal opinion but shez is also just….. not as pretty as byleth hahaha i reeeally dislike the bright purple hair glued over one eye, and the color scheme just isn't as good…… it's the purple + orange combo for me ✌️😔 like if i have to have a central protagonist i at least want them to be aesthetically pleasing

yeah doofus really looks like they're from another game entirely.... they really don't fit in at all looks-wise

I read that interview that other anon was talking about and it’s so dumb. Byleth might as well not be in the game with how irrelevant they are. You kill them you a unit. You recruit them and they barely have any Supports. There’s an extra mission related to Arval for recruiting them that benefits Shez and that’s my problem, Shez. Whether they meant to or not Shez steals Byleth’s role and bonds; Arval too for Sothis. This game is telling me to forget Byleth and I don’t want to. It’s insulting.

it would have made more sense if they made byleth recruitable much sooner and have more supports. but it's almost like byleth was an afterthought. it's so strange and insulting like you said

I know you’re playing it for the laughs, but I’m watching playthroughs and all I can think is: Byleth got replaced, was hated on for months to prop up Shez, and becomes irrelevant to this shit story that goes nowhere while character assassinating everyone along the way? This game is false advertisement and glad I saved my money.

the cover of the game is REALLY REALLY false advertising. byleth barely plays much of a role at all, should not be on the cover that big. maybe in the background or something.

I’m watching all the AG cutscenes on YouTube. I fucking hate Shez. These should be Byleth moments. My Dimileth and Byleth/Lions friendship heart hurts.😭💔

doofus really does feel so out of place. like how did they become such friends with everyone when they spent like 2 weeks at the academy with everyone? as opposed to an entire year of protecting their lives and teaching them life skills like byleth did. it's feels so weird

artysgeekcassie-popping in one last time before my mental health break. 3 Hopes won’t erase 3 Houses, but I’ve seen enough leaks and can't pretend this doesn’t upset me. This games feels like an insult, especially to Byleth, Claude, and Rhea fans when IS/KT have made SO much fucking money for years off of 3 Houses. I just don’t know what they were thinking-THIS is really the best they can do? Fanfic is better. I know it’s a warriors game, but Persona5 Strikers didn’t leave me feeling like this.

i agree with everything you said, especially that fanfic is better LOL

It feels like they put Byleth and Sothis on the cover because Shez and Arval wouldn’t sell in their own. They straight up replaced them and assassinated their characters to make the other look 2 look good. That’s not even getting into the shit they pulled with Claude and Rhea.Only Edelgard and Shez fans can really enjoy this game. Dimitri fans might if they can accept him being a bit of pawn in bigger picture. The demo almost tricked me into getting the game. The leaks saved me money.

they wanted doofus to be so liked but like.... why?? why even make a new character?? they could have done better with doofus for sure. like not even just the marketing but as a character. they fall so flat it's almost funny

I REALLY WISHED FOR A FODLAN PREQUEL INSTEAD RN. I suggest you don't play the game at all, as Byleth ends up "killing" a teammate based on your route (hugs for recurringwriter). That's not even getting into Claude's blatant character assassination, why?! Byleth is playable, but is it worth it when they're in this dumpster fire??? This is just a bad parody fic at this point, I don't mind Shez but everything else like Mon//cia's "devotion", the Federation, Mik//lan working for Dimitri, can go…

i absolutely hate how monica turned into an ed;el simp. it's just so 🤮🤮🤮

a prequel of the hero's war would have been so much better

Same anon. I think what bothers me the most about people reaction to Shez is how everything they claim to hate Byleth for, Shez is the one who really does it. Being worshipped: everyone instantly accepts and praises Shez while Byleth was had skeptics and had to earn trust. Having the plot bend over for them: Alois doesn’t offer Shez to be a teacher despite their strength and no one questions their strange powers while Byleth had no choice and was dehumanized by some people. Again, frustrating.

EXACTLY

#long post #negative #few3h spoilers

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iturbide · 2 years

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You know, GW is reminding about your crest control fic, since Bug there can possess Barney to kill Billy as their heart houses Worst Mom. And Clout is still ignorant about the true history of Fodlan, while moles are still active. FR, he kills the pope, played both the Kingdom & Empire into fighting each other so the Federation can curb stomp them afterward, and executes his brother despite saying it's a bad idea as Almyra would have an excuse to invade. He's like the King of Separation honestly.

Sadly I can't take credit for Crest Control: that's the work of the incredible @cheeseandcake-from-ao3! I might have acted as a sounding board, but they did all the hard work and deserve all the credit for it!

I'm just. So sad that this is how GW ends up. It's the absolute worst case sort of scenario for everyone, in the game and outside it: Claude fans have to endure the assassination of a character they love, while people who don't care about Claude end up with an excuse to either dismiss him or hate him depending on their individual preference. It's just...it's sad.

#answered #anonymous #fire emblem warriors: three hopes #fewth spoilers #seriously they replaced claude with an agarthan #it's the only reasonable explanation i can come up with at this point #and it's still a bad one #though not as bad as this being his legitimate course of action

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strawberry-crocodile · 3 years

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love people who insist that edelgard was actually just a tyrant who wanted to take power for herself. like you’re really just 100% making up your own character for her huh. she is the only lord in the game who ever fully relinquishes power once it’s given to her. you think her ideas are wrong sure. you think she goes too far sure. there is textual evidence there. but people really be out here proclaiming that ackshually she just wants to be supreme tyrant. just saying whatever the hell they want about Character They Dont Like. fuckinggggg in azure moon, the route where she’s at her worst, she’s still talking about building a better tomorrow. are we just ignoring the text of the game now? are we assuming whatever character motivations we want? dimitri was actually just pissed about a woman who wanted to be in charge. rhea didnt care about her mom she just wanted to make the sexiest homunculus in fodlan. kronya wanted to avenge her father’s death.

#edelgard #yknow maybe edegard crits do interact i wanna see how you spin this #fe3h #fire emblem three houses #dalucaray

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butwhatifidothis · 3 years

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i want to make a joke but i legitimately can’t. i’m disgusted over how captain treated dedue. edelgard is right in hating thales/twsitd bc they ruined her life but dedue isn’t allowed that same respect after being a victim of genocide and discriminated against due to edelgard’s allies and actions.

- “ Mother…you’re here.”" / "That was what Rhea had said to you, after you had saved her, and sacrificed everything for her, and killed… You shake your head. She still did not think you were real, even now. You were still just Sothis. Still empty." -> Forgive the dying for making an inappropriate statement right before their potential deaths. Sorry that they can't always say the nicey nice things when they're LITERALLY DYING

rhea wasn’t even talking about byleth 😭 in her s-support she was talking to sothis. whether or not she was having auditory hallucinations while on the verge of death or actually heard her mother is up to interpretation but she wasn’t talking to the player.

- “And then, you see the flash of a seafoam green cape and blond hair, and with terrifying speed, Ingrid has tackled Seteth to the ground, and begins to strike him, over and over again.

WHAT i’m sorry but when did ingrid become a fucking angry kangaroo???

- “Byleth…I…know that I have done dreadful, terrible things…but please…I love you. Help me fix this.”

DOES RHEA SEE BYLETH AS A MOM OR A LOVER WHICH IS IT CAPTAIN OR DOES IT CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU CAN TWIST IT FOR THE WORST IN THE SITUATION?

the treatment of nabateans in this story is also horrific. and the whole wilhelm x rhea nonsense made me roll my eyes. like. i have a whole sims file for them but he is never mentioned as a catalyst for her actions. for someone who claims to like rhea he really fucking hates her

anyway fucking kudos for making it this far in the fic that chapter was literally the worst thing i ever read and it was only the cliff notes

actually disgusting

I can’t believe the fandom looks at a fic that said "Big angry scary POC man "wrongly" hurting the helpless body of a small pure innocent white woman (that victimized him in multiple ways when she was alive) gets punished in a noticeably more brutal way than anyone else has been punished in this fic so far" and finds nothing like. Kinda fucked up about it. Did they read different words than I did? Cuz holy fuckin’ shit, this is so bad.

And fair enough about Rhea! I don’t really care if she was talking to Byleth because, well, she’s dying she’s not gonna say the most coherent things to anyone, but that’s nice clarification, thanks!

That whole scene was awful, and you know what I just realized? Cap’n skipping over Thales also conveniently skips over Rhea saving everyone from missiles. He really can’t be fucked to portray Rhea as a good person unless it can relate back to how good Edelgard is.

I DON’T FUCKIN’ KNOW it’s almost like Cap’n is saying Rhea wants to fuck Sothis?? It’s so fuckin’ confusing?? Shit is ass 😭

And I know, making Rhea’s motivations be all about Wilheim and nothing about her want to save Fodlan is honestly just fuckin’ pathetic. Of course Rhea was motivated by a man, because god forbid a woman not have things always relate back to a man.

Couldn’t have made it this far in without ranting periodically to my sis, cuz I think I would have actually imploded from how fucked this chapter was

#ask #exqueuese me princess #o captain my captain #Cap'n really did go like ''what if I made the racism and misogyny and misandry and ableism... even worse'' and then he did. Oh boy he did

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lochnessies · 3 years

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I mean to be fair to edelgard, if I found out the popes/president were actually one guy who lived basically forever, I'd probably at the very least question thus popeident's leadership skills. Especially if I found out that a good portions of this hypothetical popes religion was fake and that also this pope was basically jesus. Granted, that'd mostly because of a lack of context since this hypothetical immortal popes motives are largely unknown.

Like without the context of her motives, Rhea CAN seen in a pretty negative light. She suddenly goes from a mother/grandmother/wife/daughter who's got issues and is trying to protect her relatives and fodlann with her position while trying to turn some homuncili into her mom, to a dragon lady who's been in head of a major religion that she made up for centuries who actively stiffled/slowed down fodlann's scientific/academic growth for unknown reasons.

Like if you didn't know about Rhea's whole deal, she'd look pretty suspiscious. This isn't me saying "edelgard completely right church bad! Rhea is evil!".

I'm more trying to say Edelgard was SORT of right in being suspiscious of everyones favorite lizard pope, but jumped to WAY too fast onto the conclusion of "The church is definitely evil, because crest=bad and crest=blessings of the goddess, therefore church=bad!"

Rhea WORST 'crime' at most as leader of the church is that she was pretty passive as leader of the church. Like, apart from trying to keep the peace as a whole and hiding technology for a while until she decided (maybe arbitrarily maybe not) that humanity was ready for it, she seemed *largely* content with the state of things as a whole. Granted, that strikes me less as her not giving a shit and more just her not knowing about some if the bad shit going on behind the scenes in Fodlann, and her going "Okay yeah thats bad. Buuuut when mom's back she'll be a way better leader and she'll make everything way better than I ever could. Back to studying and researching homunculi children so I can maybe shove my moms soul into one."

That's my take anyway. Basically if Rhea and the lords had a group therapy session a lot of tragedy could have been avoided. Alas therapists don't exist in fire emblem, just look at the various characters with underlying trauma that they havent dealt with.

I mean to be fair to edelgard, if I found out the popes/president were actually one guy who lived basically forever, I'd probably at the very least question thus popeident's leadership skills.

why? wouldn’t their longevity make them better leaders? they have much more experience and know how the world works. i mean, agree with the woman or not, rhea’s results are hard to argue with. 1000 years is an extremely long time to help mitigate peace. our world can’t seem to avoid conflict every half decade it would seem. so it’s not like rhea is doing a bad job of it.

Especially if I found out that a good portions of this hypothetical popes religion was fake and that also this pope was basically jesus. Granted, that'd mostly because of a lack of context since this hypothetical immortal popes motives are largely unknown.

that’s when you have a nice little sit down and have a chat. and also, rhea didn’t make up the religion. it already existed before the war of heroes. all she did was change a couple of details to hide the fact that nabeteans existed and the fact that the elites were mad murderers to keep their descendants safe.

as for the tech thing, i mean, we see most of the tech inside garreg mach itself and nobody acknowledges any bans so it clearly was an extremely long time ago that they were taken down. also, edelgard never mentions these things as her reasons for war (or at all) so i don’t even think she’s aware of them so how could they color her view? like edel canonically doesn’t know about the homunculi so why would she find it sus?

Like if you didn't know about Rhea's whole deal, she'd look pretty suspiscious. This isn't me saying "edelgard completely right church bad! Rhea is evil!".

like i said above, all of rhea’s more suspicious behavior is never mentioned by edelgard. and everybody else in the game seems to like rhea well enough and not find her suspicious and all the crimes edelgard espouses are lies so what even is there that would turn her off from the archbishop other than the ‘beasts hiding in human skin’ thing.

the only character that has real legitimate reasons to not trust rhea due to personal experience and rhea’s extremely suspicious behavior is jeralt which he talks about in his journal. but that’s noting war worthy.

i’m sure ionius had a hand in this since edel talks about how she has information about the church from him that’s been passed down from emperor to emperor (basically a centuries old game of telephone). what was told? who fucking know. she never says.

Rhea WORST 'crime' at most as leader of the church is that she was pretty passive as leader of the church.

is that the worst crime though? i mean, it’s a damned if you do and a damned if you don’t situation. rhea isn’t a queen, she isn’t an emperor, she’s a spiritual leader. she can’t force people to do anything outside of her staff at garreg mach. hell, she has no presence in adrestia, the western church hates her, and the eastern tries to help in the alliance but the nobles don’t listen to them.

the alternative is for her to grab actual political power and involve herself in the politics of the other nations and make laws that you have to follow the church’s teachings which is… uh… bad. thank goodness she doesn’t bc i wouldn’t be able to defend that lol

Like, apart from trying to keep the peace as a whole and hiding technology for a while until she decided (maybe arbitrarily maybe not) that humanity was ready for it, she seemed *largely* content with the state of things as a whole.

but she isn’t though. that’s why she’s trying to revive sothis in the first place. she isn’t satisfied with how things are and she’s actively trying to being back fodlan’s golden age through sothis.

Granted, that strikes me less as her not giving a shit and more just her not knowing about some if the bad shit going on behind the scenes in Fodlann, and her going "Okay yeah thats bad. Buuuut when mom's back she'll be a way better leader and she'll make everything way better than I ever could. Back to studying and researching homunculi children so I can maybe shove my moms soul into one."

yeah. when it comes to twsitd and them fucking shit up in the background she isn’t aware that it’s them. after the war of heroes the church had tried to uncover who helped nemesis since the church is suspicious of the fact that a simple bandit was able to commit so much horror on his own. they believed that he had accomplices who helped him, and with good reason. however, no matter how hard they looked they never discovered the puppet masters behind everything since twsitd covered their tracks and nobody knows they exist. the church eventually gave up the search in favor of helping the people and tried their best to put the incident behind them. and by the time of the game it’s been over a thousand years so i’m pretty sure that rhea believes them to be dead lol

then like you said at some point rhea starts her plan to fix fodlan through sothis again.

very true.

#asks

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takashi0 · 4 years

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The FE fandom is full of godawful takes but this one takes the cake because if you’ve actually interacted with the 3 Houses side of the fandom for more than five minutes you’ll find there’s a massive double standard when it comes to everyone willing to acknowledge both the positive and negative aspects for every character EXCEPT Rhea.

Everyone’s willing to completely ignore Edelgard starting the war in the first place with what is essentially terrorism, her willing to completely ignore the fact that the Agarthans were the ones DIRECTLY responsible for her family’s misery in favor of dismantling the Church because it’s “convenient” for her and just how self-righteous she can be, and her frankly shortsighted and doomed-to-be-undone-after-her-death-because-humans-are-assholes plan because they understand how horrific her trauma was and as a result of her double crests she’s living on limited lifespan so she has no guarantee she can make her reforms the “legit” way.

Everyone’s willing to excuse Dimitri’s complete mental breakdown turning him into savage beast and a lone wolf edgelord because they know he snaps out of it and regains his nobility in what’s arguably the best demonstration of Character Development in Fire Emblem history.

Everyone’s willing to ignore Claude’s scheming and insincerity because... frankly he’s the most well-adjusted of the house leaders by far and also because it’s the result of facing discrimination from him being mixed race.

But does anyone ever talk about how everything Rhea does stems from her being the survivor of a LITERAL GENOCIDE?

Does anyone talk about the fact that the whole reason the Crest system even exists is because if Fodlan knew where Crests, Heroic Relics, and Crest Stones ACTUALLY came from then she, Flayn and Seteth would all be fucking dead and the Agarthans would win?

Does anyone ever acknowledge that when Byleth’s mom failed as a Sothis Reincarnation candidate she did NOT throw her away and instead let her live a comfortable life in the Monastery and even marry Jeralt?

Does anyone ever point out that, as much of a red flag as it might’ve been, the Western Church tried to assassinate her TWICE and thus should’ve really fucking expected they were risking execution?

Does anyone ever acknowledge that Sitri asked RHEA to put Sothis’s Crest Stone into Byleth because Byleth was Stillborn and Sitri wanted Byleth to live (and was also dying anyway because she was too frail for childbirth, so fuck it, might as well put the stone to use), even BEFORE Cindered Shadows came out and made that more clear than ever?

Does anyone ever point out that Rhea didn’t just want Sothis back because she missed her mom, but because Sothis was the LITERAL GODDESS OF FODLAN who curbstomped the Agarthans the first time they started causing trouble and thus would do the same again and bring peace to Fodlan if she had returned?

No. All they give a shit about is Edelgard being “Gay” (read: Bi, don’t think I didn’t catch your biphobia ‘cause y’all ain’t slick), and ignoring the facets of Rhea’s character in non-Crimson Flower routes because they never played anything else aside from MAYBE Azure Moon. And then they look at Rhea’s freakout in Crimson Flower and conclude that Rhea’s mental deterioration wasn’t the result of Edelgard forcing her to relive the worst moment in her life (where her people and her all-powerful Goddess mother were slaughtered with their corpses turned to weapons and blood consumed to give humans superpowers) with Byleth’s betrayal essentially turning them into Nemesis 2.0 in her mind and think “Ah yes, there’s no reason for this change in behavior at all, she’s just evil and crazy all the time and she just stopped bothering to hide it.”

#FE Spoilers #Three houses spoilers #Fire Emblem spoilers #spoilers #Discourse #disc horse #long post #Edelgard Bootlickers don't even fucking THINK of interacting

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kendrixtermina · 4 years

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One thing that felt uncomfortable to go along with in the CF route for me was when Edelgard lies about what happened at Arianrhod to her closest allies (Black Eagle Strike Force) and blames it on the church. Can you give some insight as to why she does this? Especially when Edelgard criticizes the church for lying to the people of Fodlan, but isn’t she doing it here?

That’s certainly a moment that is genuinely ambiguous / a valid point of criticism and something I’d laud a whistleblower for exposing if it were a RL politician, but also the sort of realpolitik / appearance management that has taken place in most RL wars.

Once you’re the leader of anything, allowing panic, division, etc. at bad moments comes with its costs. Of course this is hardly a carte blanche (see: Beating down legit protesters for superficial “order”), but neither is it a factor that can be ignored completely.

At the point of the Arianrhod attack Edelgard was one month away from seizing control of the landmass and ending the large-scale fighting, having one enemy taken out (the Church) and being able to turn all her resources on the other (the Agarthans)

The agarthans at this point know they’re losing control of Edelgard and they’re not stupid enough to have any illusions about her loyalty. So they fire a warning shot to demonstrate their superior weaponry. Arundel makes a thinly veiled threat to fire it on Enbarr.

Of course at this point he basically gave away his location and allowed Edelgard & Hubert to come up with countermeasures, but they don’t want him to know that yet, their strategy involves that they keep being underestimated, let the Agarthans keep thinking that the “beasts” have no counter for the nukes pointed at their heads.

But they still destroyed half a fortress killing the ppl inside. If she reveals that she’s got a rogue faction infiltrating her ranks that’s firing frightening superweapons nilly willy, there will be chaos outrage and disunity right before the final battle. If she doesn’t make a statement at all and declares it a mystery, no one will believe it and her own faction will get the blame throughout the country. So what does she do? Pin it on the enemy she is currently fighting anyways. The purpose here is not to reveal the Agarthan situation too early so they can focus on the church for now.

It’s unclear if this was ever revealed to the public (probably not, I don’t think she’d cause a stir on principle alone) but the ending cards make it quite clear that the Strike Force was let in on the Agarthan situation later and helped her mop them up.

Yeah, it’s defamation, an indisputable textbook government cover up and maybe even technically a kind of propaganda, but her casus belli existed before it’s not like she’s basing it on the lie, and in most wars throughout history the factions have hidden or made a spin of failures & mishaps and made the enemy look bad.

There are certainly many historical examples of such actions creating problems, such as fueling lingering resentments or creating general mistrust that can led to real information not being believed etc. so it’s by no means a safe action that is no big deal and I can see how it could be a legit dealbreaker for some, you certainly weren’t supposed to be 100% comfortable with it, or anything on the CF route, everyone involves is well aware that they’re doing ugly, costly things because (or so they see it) the alternatives are all worse. In that sense it’s the most self-aware one. It’s about actually looking at the bottom line of consequences, not what makes you feel like a hero.

At the same time, doing things like that that squander her moral credibility genuinely IS a flaw in Edelgard’s leadership style - it’s probably why more ppl didn’t believe her manifesto, “she already lied to us cooperating with these shady guys”, making it look like a ‘he said she said’ situation to the wider public that can’t go & confirm the evidence for themselves. This is why Claude thinks he has a better shot at winning& implementing reforms in VW (”too shady for the ppl to get behind”) - just like Dimitri has no plans and Claude’s secrecy creating mistrust even when his secret plan is utterly benevolent. Doesn’t matter how altruistic you are if you look suspicious it will have consequences I mean that’s how she loses on the other rouses, everyone ganks up on her cause she antagonized them all with suspicious actions. I’m not saying she’s any more perfect than the other 2.

but putting that on the same scale as what Rhea did is comparing a candle to the sun.

And maybe the Kantians in the audience will disagree with me but it can be a bit unhelpful to classify different actions of vastly different consequence and magnitude as “Lies”. There is a common principle (telling things that aren’t exactly true) but different magnitude. Clearly “The Confederacy was all great and glorious” and “I totally didn’t eat my little sister’s share of toffees” aren’t on the same level of immorality.

Neither is below the “everythings fine and dandy” line but one is a lie about one incident for one clear purpose, and the other is creating a whole fake world view for the express purpose of control, maintaining harmful systems, suppressing any advancement of science & technology... for 1000 years.

Scale, purpose and consequences are totally different. The arianrhod coverup coming to light would spark controversy & discussion on wether she should have done it under those circumstances; Some might change their opinion about her but overall everyone already knew that she’s not above dirty methods. If you told the average citizen of Fodland about all of Rhea’s lies, everything they know would be wrong. They would go from Adoring & worshipping her to being very confused about what’s true.

It’s the difference between your average modern-day politician doing backroom deals with diverse industry lobbies to accomplish their other goals, and a place like Saudi Arabia.

To get perspective here, let’s look at another example: Claude’s deceptions.

He, too, ultimately wants what’s best for everyone and a lot of the time he decides to fool people to avoid fighting them, I don’t mean to bash him at all, but let’s look at his actions in and of themselves:

Look at the sequence where he, Hilda & Byleth rope the church into helping them - that’s even more outright with the slimy politician tactics: He tries to downplay alliance involvement though he is totally in control, he says that “getting the church on our side will make fighting the empire look like a moral cause” implying that he doesn’t think it is one but wants to portray it as one to get ppl’s support, we’re told he made lots of promises to the merchants to get them on his side (so like that’s literal lobbyists), he installs Byleth as a figurehead, he tells the church ppl he wants to help them get back their old power when he really wants it to diminish and to drastically reorder the society.

He tells everyone he’ll help them save Rhea but while he still has basic human empathy for her & what happened to her he makes it clear he doesn’t want her to go back to being archbishop... at all. He even does this with Byleth: “Yeah, sure, teach we’re totally gonna save her” though in their case he tries to hint that she’s not to be trusted for their own good. Despite his dishonesty, he’s actually a very good friend to them imho. (#broTP)

In the end the power struggle between Claude and Edelgard isn’t personal nor a righteous struggle - he’s just taking advantage of the chaos she caused and he needs the seat of power to reach his own goal. He thinks he can do it better and she’s in the way (and to be fair, she thinks the same about him)

It’s your classic slimy politician: “he’s pretending to be for family values etc thing but really he wants power & is in cahoots with economic interests and he won’t do what he promised” etc. ... except with the plot twist that he’s deeply good and not actually all that ruthless. In a sense he’s as much a total subverted trope as Edelgard.

So doesn’t he have the right to criticise Rhea either? Or do you see how, while not per perfect, he’s miles better and not remotely the same?

Edelgard isn’t 100% truthful, but by and large, she made her intentions very clear with the pamphlets and stuff (even if it meant antagonizing ppl who were against that) and all her soldiers generally know what they’re fighting for and are going to get out of it if they support her, or what the consequences will be if they fail, even if she kept some of the “how” to herself.

Which isn’t to say that Claude ever makes ppl act against their interests even if it’s sometimes what he sees as their interests.

Under Rhea’s rule no one knew what the government’s doing, why it’s doing it, or to some degree, even that she IS the government... for 1000 years. There’s some cult of personality going on. She probably genuinely believes that it does benefit the sheeple to be “guided” by her, but she hasn’t even told Seteth about all she’s doing, she’s pretty much accountable to no one.

In terms of honesty, we could probably rank the lords like this:

Dimitri (a few omissions at worst)

Seteth (lies mostly out of self-preservation)

Edelgard (some convenient secrecy here & there)

Yuri (about the same as El but I’d put him slightly higher for the fake betrayal)

Claude (no one rly knows what he’s up to, but he gets ppl what he promised them and doesn’t outright betray them)

(very)

(big)

(gap)

Rhea (fake history, isolationist bubble, abuse of power left & right, manipulation, will smile in your face while planning to make you a meat puppet for her mom)

#fe3h #fire emblem: three houses #fire emblem three houses #three houses #edelgard von hresvelg #edelgard

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teaveetamer · 4 years

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I remember when someone tagged some shitty AM takes on the meme, an anon said that they were similar to those on the Edelgard subreddit and everyone exploded and starting attacking that person. As if they were getting... Defensive... The anonmeme is the same as Reddit but ppl talking on anon, that's it.

Ah yes. I remember that debacle.

Honestly I’ve kind of stopped going to the anonmeme. Within the first page of the new post we had:

1) People arguing that they shouldn’t have to tag their content with trigger warnings “because I’m not your mom or your therapist”

2) People whining about how Dimidue shippers are terrible and ship exclusionary because they point out that Dimidue is basically canon. Then they pointed to Tumblr Dimidues specifically as the source of this ship exclusionary behavior which I just kind of balked at because? There’s like three of us and we all subscribe to the “Dimitri fucks every man in Fodlan” philosophy and are generally pretty nice about other ships including him. (And then when asked who the fuck they were talking about they admitted that they’d never even looked at the Dimidue tag on Tumblr so like? Where the fuck are you finding all of these ship exclusionaries???).

And that’s coming off of the previous post which had the whole “Dimitri can’t be feminine coded because he’s a man” and a lot of people whining about how “Dimitri stans are the most defensive” and “I liked Dimitri until I talked to his fans those woobifying losers.” Then the post before that was just like 2,000 comments of Edelwank.

There’s also a weirdly high number of Dimilix shippers in there that apparently cannot stand that Sylvix is a more popular ship (but want to pretend like they’re really chill about other Felix ships even though they’re highkey not). I mean I get being frustrated that your fave ship doesn’t have more content, but I think every single post has had some sort of wank about how Sylvix is just the worst ship in the goddamn fandom for [insert reason here] or how they just wished this one Sylvix author would write for Dimilix instead and it’s just... Yeah.

It was kinda chill and pretty entertaining at first, but it’s pretty clear that there are fewer and fewer users going there and posting now and they’ve all sort of settled on a viewpoint to wank over. Too bad, was kind of fun for awhile.

#Anonymous

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charismastaticarchive · 4 years

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CLAUDE HC: LET ME KNOW THAT I’VE DONE WRONG / WHEN I’VE KNOWN THIS ALL ALONG. / I GO AROUND A TIME OR TWO. / JUST TO WASTE MY TIME WITH YOU. / TELL ME ALL THAT YOU’VE THROWN AWAY. / FIND OUT GAMES YOU DON’T WANT TO PLAY. / YOU ARE, THE ONLY ONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW.

claude LOVES secrets. he makes this very apparent, all the time, and makes his love of secrets no secret. since everything with claude is a long con, a deliberate chess match of moving pieces forward while being as snarky and condescending towards all of fodlan (under the guise of charming, rogueish jabs at his ‘friendly rivals’), his love of secrets, and his desire to make said love known---is an important chess piece, a tool for manipulation and the self-degradation towards a casual aura that claude is so well known for.

this hc has two parts. ONE why does claude make people THINK he loves secrets? how is that useful if he actually wants to uncover their secrets? wouldn’t that make people push their guard up even further? and TWO. why does claude love secrets. does he REALLY love them, or are they just a tool he uses?

to begin with. there are a few things we know about claude for certain. they are the things he does not let ‘slip’ so much as tell with pointed accuracy because it suits his aims and goals in shocking his friends. he gives these secrets not freely---but as an exchange. he tells you something about his self that might have traumatized him, and u feel bad for him, bad enough that u decide to relate to him and tell him UR trauma, or bad enough that you pity him and feel closer to him.

the things he tells about himself are things he does not SEEM to mind, because he tells these things just as freely as he talks about poisoning people with non-lethal poisons that can only give u food poisoning. this tells me two things: he tells half the story, and only the part of the story that doesn’t make him feel bad personally and that make him appear Different and Odd but also harmlesss. and the deeper issues at play when he talks about his past (namely, the attempts on his life, his warrior mother being vicious, him being dragged on the ground as he learned how to use a bow, how he wanted to wield byleth’s mountain shattering relic) DO bother him.

the side of the story he’s telling is as simple as a non-lethal poison he wants to test out on a fellow student. but if you know how to make non-lethal poisons, it stands to reason u have better, ACTUALLY lethal poisons in ur arsenal. its a lot easier to kill people than to temper ur arrow and hit just the arrow in ur mouth. but he does so, and he does so in spades, literally all the time, to the point that no one ever really questions him or his intentions in even GATHERING secrets. so instead of people taking claude seriously as a manipulator----people see claude as a secret hound, that will always be obvious when he is being sneaky.

the reason claude makes it known he loves secrets----when people get tired of having their guard up all the time, they let it down, they get sloppy, they start to underestimate him as a hound instead of a true threat. then claude can hit them with genuine authenticity, and they open up as a FRIEND, even tho they dont know anything about claude really at all, and now? he knows JUST ENOUGH about them to hold it over their heads, to manipulate them further, and tbh, he’s already god enough at manipulating people in general just bc he’s got a good judge of character (though he does underestimate people, often), and is a cynical, analytical mind when it comes to patterns of behavior in humanity. and then? then people don’t view it as him ‘tricking’ their secrets out of them. they view it as opening up, as a cemented allegiance, and that’s worth a lot more---especially when claude NEEDS that before he can ever honestly open up to them.

so that brings us to part two. claude is only 17 at the start of the game, and he’s already had attempts on his life. if that’s what he’s TELLING US, if that’s what he WANTS US TO KNOW, then how much more horrible must it really be? he’s only 17 when he tells us this. he’s so fucking young. when did they start? how does he know about them? does he know anything about the people that attacked him? and then there’s the classic biracial kid story. his mom doesn’t look like any of the other moms. she’s tough and she’s strong and she doesn’t take any shit---but why does she look like that? and why won’t she say?

claude loves secrets, because, lets be real, he’s a prince from a fairy tale esque kingdom. there were secrets that were kept from him, secrets that were kept for a very long time, about who he really is, and why everyone seems to hate him so much that they’d try to kill him---but love him so much he still has people keeping him safe. you can see how claude, a genius and a prodigy at seventeen (so probably at least some time before then as well), would have a curious mind as a child, and want to know more information.... and therefore decide that, hey, knowledge is power. secrets are what connect you to other people. information and relationships are a currency that keep you safe and can also get you in trouble.

keep your secrets safe to your chest. dole them out when needed, exchange them when you have to, for sympathy, for love, for kindness, for allegiances. but learn everything you can about other people----not to the point they rule over you, but enough that that person needs you more than you need them.

secrets are EVERYTHING to claude. THEY’RE the real chess pieces. not just in his games of manipulation---but to his dreams, to his complete self-knowledge, to forging platonic and romantic relationships with other people (if he’ll ever let himself do that).

and the best lies aren’t lies at all. they’re half-truths. claude loves playing the game, more than he likes interacting with people in general, especially fodlan people, who he knows might try to kill him at a moment’s notice just for daring to be of almyran birth (and who have in the past). and while he hates that this system makes every drop of affection and connection he has feel transactional and also completely conditional---it makes more sense to him this way, makes PEOPLE make more sense to him, and the world make more sense. which is hard for him, because when u’ve been through some really, really terrible shit---sometimes it feels like there’s no way to come to terms with the awful things people have done to you, except to learn to live logically, and believe in a system that relies on you believing and knowing the worst about everyone all the time.

#{ ooc: hc }#{ ch: the schemer; the dreamer | claude }#{ hc: the schemer; the dreamer | claude }#{ fandom: i am finally me | fe3h }#racism tw

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randomnameless · 3 months

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I appreciate that at least they stayed consistent with the Sword of the Creator being Crest of Flames-exclusive and, as such, Byleth can no longer use it post-CF and is shown using a normal sword instead in their solo and S-Supported Jeritza ending pictures; makes it all the more baffling that they're still alive despite their heart being destroyed and that the Sothis S-Support exists in that route, but i'll give them credit where it's due for keeping the SOTC's lore consistent.

Post Tru Piss, there's no Crest Stone left for the SoC!

So I'd say it's not that it's CoF exclusice, but rather something like without a crest stone, a relic, even the SoC, doesn't "work" anymore.

Adding insult to the injury though, Post!Tru Piss Billy uses Rhea's sword, aka, a Holy Weapon that could be used by everyone (human and nabatean!) and even heal non-crested people : Billy uses at the end of the "we will make a world for humans!" route a sword that conveyed coexistence between humans and nabateans...

Sothis' S-support in this route really felt odd, because she acknowledges Rhea at least, but has no words for her passing when Rhea died crying for her.

Some people tried to theorise that this Sothis isn't the one Rhea remembers so she wouldn't have feelings about her... but idk, it still feels dead wrong, especially since Sothis remembered feelings of joy and sadness in Zanado, and ultimately remembers how Rhea is a her kid thanks to the lullaby (and in SS when she "talks" to her).

If Sothis was a better written character and not accidently written to be the most toxic parent in the FE series, I'd maybe write something about her feeling so bad that, again, she was used to slaughter one of her own children (Nemesis first in Zanado, and now Billy in Tailtean) but as canon!Sothis is, I'm not really motivated to do something like this.

#anon #replies #Fodlan's worst mom #Tru Piss is a gut punch through and through lol #maybe on par with FE15 Alm 'we don't need gods humanity fuck yeah but plz mila can you heal the land before leaving?'#as for the billy still being alive even if the crest stone was destroyed #idk mate #maybe it's Sothis's final gift to make Billy's natural and defective heart function?#I've read some piece where Sothis made them live so they can despair and realise what they did #that was a nice fic #I'd have loved Tru Piss if at the end instead of the crest stone shattering it's Supreme Leader who axes Billy #or Billy asks for help because crest stone shattered and Supreme Leader tearfully says this is the last sacrifice she has to make #for her ideal world to come to fruition Billy is also a non human so they have to disappear but she will never forget them #or something in the lines of Katanagatari #expect that it's Togame who survives after killing Shichika like she planned #FE16

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goldguile-a · 5 years

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see the worst thing about it is upon coming to fodlan and deciding to stay behind, claude did want to befriend the other alliance nobles? he was still very optimistic about the leicester alliance and the continent as a whole, thinking that the people there had to be a lot more accepting and warm if mom was from there and the gonerils were nice to him...

but then he meets grandpa edgar and that perception is entirely shattered. the gonerils like him just fine, but he has to be on his absolute best, most fodlanese behaviour to get the approval of houses ordelia and edmund??? then there’s house gloucester, who we know was counting on house riegan falling to ruin because lorenz’s dad just killed godfrey and edgar is too prideful to even think about making godfrey’s daughter his heiress, because she lacks a crest. even without knowing the truth behind his son’s death, edgar’s been at odds with house gloucester for who knows how long now-- he’s only even bothering sending claude to them as a formality so house gloucester has no reason to harp on about disrespect or cause problems. he doesn’t care if they approve or not.

so claude, after seeing all this political song and dance and drama, has his optimism and hopes shattered-- he still has his dream and he’s going to work hard to get enough power to make it come true, but... it’s been made very clear to him that aside from maybe hilda (and early on he’s still wondering if she’ll turn on him too), the other noble children are not to be trusted.

it’s only once everyone spends the year together at garreg mach that he changes his views and comes to trust his classmates... even lorenz, to an extent.

#❛♛ → 𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐚 𝐧𝐞𝐰 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐟 ⋆﹙ooc﹚

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reasonablywittyatbest · 4 years

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This is a Rant About Fire Emblem Three Houses

So I finally finished all three main routes: Black eagles, blue lions, and golden deer. In that order. Now I can finally confidently say that the blue lions route is the worst, and black eagles and golden deer are tied for me. (Yes I am aware there’s a church route, but well).

I can also confidently say that Edelgard was fucked over, bad. There is literally no excuse for her route to be shorter. All they had to do was use the Shambalah and Nemesis fights, from a different POV.

Golden Deer and the Blue Lion route share so many similarities in maps and chapters, so that clearly wasn’t the problem.

Imagine if you will, you capture Rhea, after that final battle, she’s gravely injured, but once she learns your goals she reluctantly agrees to help you and tell you about those that slither in the dark and her real past. Her side of the story, which Edelgard has never heard. There’s a great scene where Edelgard expresses her sorrow for Rhea, but insists what she’s done was still the right thing to do, the people of Fodlan deserve to live free and create thier own destiny. She rescues you after Shambhala is destroyed because you house the soul her mother (don’t worry the heart still breaks, just during the final fight with Nemisis). It’s really good and a complete route that gets the same level of care the other two(three) are given

But, no, instead they have her route be shorter than all the others and leave her confrontation with those slithering folks for a line in the epilogue. When that confrontation is so central to her and her motivations, and the story of her route. When they literally already had the assists to not fuck her over.

And let’s remember this is on top of you being able to betray her, something you cannot do for either of the other lords.

Edelgard was done so, so dirty.

And you know what, the fandom has done her dirty too. No doubt if she had been the angsty Disney prince she(he)’d be the darling child of tumblr. And if Dimitri had instead been the female lord people would have been bitching about how boring his(her) route was, what an awful leader he(she) was, and rightfully so. The blue lions route was so, so tedious. I’ll be honest I hated it.

Also as an aside, I hate how the golden deer route really shoehorns you onto being worried about Rhea, like man, give me the option to say ‘ew she’s wierd and I only want to find her so you can have answers Claude’ or, you know, the chance to react badly to the fact she was trying to wipe out your consciousness, despite having the time to have gotten to know you and realize you’re a person. Bad look Rhea.

And like, i know y’all love to call Edlegard a fascist but uuuuh, why when you have Rhea, like, right there.

Founds a church dedicated to worshiping her mom, herself, and her siblings? Sets up and maintains an incredibly unfair power structure that benefits her? Enforces her power with the death penalty? (Sure she doesn’t enforce it on an individual level, but she sure as shit does it on a systematic level). Creates an atmosphere where outsiders are feared and hated? Manipulates all politics? Rules through a cult of personality?

Mhmmm.

Let me tell you, when I realized during the black eagles route i was going to get to fight the church, I was ecstatic. It was total wish fulfillment. I have no problem with personal belief. Yet, if someone started a war that would rid the world of oppressive organized religion? Here, in the real world? I would be hard pressed to find fault with that as a goal. And Just so there’s no confusion I 100% mean Christianity and Catholicism.

Look man, all I’m saying is that if Edelgard skeeves you out but Rhea doesn’t, I’m very confused. Maybe it’s because the game goes out of its way to try and shove liking Rhea down your throat and make her sympathetic. I just found her creepy.

One final thought; Nonmayter what your favorite route or if you like her or not: Edelgard was a necessity. Maybe less so on the blue lions route, since it’s so obsessed with keeping everything as it was, but Those grand scenes of Claude’s? Yeah, more than likely without the chaos of the war and the instability it brought they never would have succeeded. More than likely he would have been run out of Fodlan or killed as heretic by Rhea.

Ok, ok I’m done.

Man though, y’all weren’t Kidding when you said the Shambhala map music fucking SLAPS.

#fire emblem three houses #fe 3 houses #edelgard deserved better #black eagles #golden deer #If you're curious I romanced Hubert Dimitri and Claude #was going to romance Edelgard love her so so much but I forgot I love nasty bastard men so much #Ah #Hubie #you terrible terrible rat

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iturbide · 4 years

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Can I have some Headcanons on Claude's parents? Like how did his father ask his mom to marry him (or how did his mom ask?)

OHOHOHO MY TIME HAS COME

So I actually have an extremely elaborate history planned out for Claude’s parents, which I have been hiding in the wings for months because this is the kind of thing I think about in my downtime. So just be warned that this is long and, like most of my headcanons for the game, takes nothing from Cindered Shadows into account (though I will grudgingly use the names that it lays out).

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Tiana von Riegan was never a proper noblewoman. She was certainly beautiful and stately, tall and elegant and poised, with quick wits and ample intelligence...but it was all offset by a razor-sharp tongue and a ferocity few hardened warriors could match. She and Judith von Daphnel were a well-matched pair, and spent the better part of their time together causing trouble of some sort until they ended up called to the Locket to help repel Almyran invaders.

Back before the Gonerils had troops enough to defend the Locket full-time (and had Holst as their star general), Alliance members would send small detachments of soldiers or hired mercenaries to help out with the fort’s defenses. Tiana and Judith made a point of always going together, so when one got the call the other invariably came with her. And oh, they were forces to be reckoned with, both of them: Judith may have earned the moniker ‘The Hero of Daphnel,’ but Tiana was no slouch herself -- and as an aspiring Great Knight, she had no trouble fighting back the Almyrans heckling their border.

It was in one of those skirmishes that she met the man who would eventually become her husband, though she had no idea about that at the time. He was just another Almyran, at first sight -- but unlike the others that she’d faced down, in that battle and all those before, he didn’t retreat when she bested him...because for the first time, she met a fighter she couldn’t best. They were evenly matched on the field, meeting one another’s blows with blocks and parries and ripostes, but neither one ever managed to gain the upper hand. And when both sides retreated, she wondered if she’d face him again, because that was a fight she wouldn’t be forgetting any time soon.

As luck would have it, they kept running into each other on the field in the months to come. Some days she almost thought she had him -- and some days, she almost feared he had her. But they never managed to claim victory, and they both always walked away alive, if somewhat worse for the wear. She started looking forward to seeing him, and moving to engage him when she happened to glimpse him out there -- and, maybe it was her imagination, but she thought she saw him searching for her, too, and grinning when he caught sight of her in the crush of skirmishing forces.

And then, one evening while she was on watch atop the fort, she saw a lone man slip out of the trees near the Locket. Understandably, she took up her arms, ready to sound an alarm...but before she could, the man pulled out a white flag and raised it over his head in a gesture of truce. It got her attention, to be sure...so she slipped down to investigate. And who should it be but her Almyran rival, holding a wineskin and tucking his white silk sash back into his belt as he bowed and invited her to celebrate their hard-fought battle. It...seemed kind of weird to her, but he took the first swig without hesitation, so she hesitantly joined him.

He introduced himself simply as Kemal, and she returned the gesture with just her first name. They just...talked. For quite a while, sharing that wineskin until it ran dry, and then a while after that before parting ways. And then, after the next engagement, she ended up watching the trees just in case he came back for another ‘post-battle celebration.’

He did.

Over the course of the next year or so, they met dozens of times in the late evening. They shared bits of their history and heritage and language (Kemal’s very stilted Fodlan started getting more natural the more they met, and she started picking up some Almyran curses and signs in turn). Tiana found out that these assumed ‘raids’ were, at worst, skirmishes and training exercises for Almyran fighters, or sometimes hunting parties mistaken for fighters, since the pass itself had once been Almyran territory and a fertile hunting ground that helped supply nearby settlements. And sometimes they even talked about their friends and families: Tiana groused about her overbearing father and older brother and told all kinds of stories of her exploits with Judith, while Kemal laughed about his own younger brother and how both he and Nader had to keep the boy from rushing headling into battle to prove himself a warrior.

It was good for what felt like a long time.

But then it ended.

The Twisted had been working on experiments to control Demonic Beasts for a long time, and began their test runs around this period; in years ahead, these experiments would give rise to the plot that killed Tiana’s brother and that Count Gloucester used to prey upon Riegan merchants...but in these early tests, the control methods were still hypothetical at best. But they approached the commanders stationed at the Locket, offering them a Demonic Beast to lay waste to the Almyran raiders that continued to threaten their borders. It sounded rather too good to be true, but they desperately wanted to put an end to the fighting once and for all -- so they accepted.

They never saw it coming. The Demonic Beast entered the field as intended -- but it very swiftly went berserk, attacking both the Almyrans and Alliance fighters in a rampage before escaping into the forests. Tiana ended up concussed and generally worse from the wear, though she could still stand and walk (and counted her blessings for that fact)...but not everyone was so lucky: as she searched the field, she found Kemal huddled on the ground, his dominant arm a bloody, unsalvageable mess, doing his best to rouse a young man -- his brother -- who even she could tell would never wake again (but then, Kemal was suffering a combination of concussion, shock, and denial).

Tiana’s not a healer. She never had been. But she did her best to at least slow the bleeding, and stayed with him until Almyran reinforcements showed up -- and who should appear first but Nadar, who freaked out as soon as he realized what was going on because A) Kemal, who was in fact an Almyran prince, looked to be at death's door; B) his brother had already walked through it, and C) there was a Fodlan warrior there who, for all he knew, was about to send Kemal through next. But Tiana backed off when he came rushing up and made no move to either stop him from taking Kemal or cause any harm to anyone, even warning Judith off when she came hurrying up to help her friend in what appeared to be a brewing fight...though, in his delirium and panic, Kemal begged Tiana not to leave him even as Nader tried to haul him away.

Kemal and Tiana both had been very secretive about their meetings. Judith had certainly teased Tiana about her ‘admirer,’ and both Nader and his brother had mercilessly ribbed Kemal about his ‘secret love’ that he’s gone out to woo so frequently -- but no one expected that their admirers were across that border. Until that moment, no one knew. But the cat couldn’t go back into the bag after that.

Understandably, both of them ended up getting the third degree from their friends once they’re better on the mend. Judith was surprisingly supportive of Tiana once she got the full explanation of everything she’d found out over the past year, but Kemal was dealing with a lot on every front: on top the physical loss of his arm, something that many imagined would preclude him from ever taking the throne (since no one imagined he would be able to fulfill the Rite of Challenge with such a severe handicap), he also lost his younger brother, not to a warrior’s death but to a horrific accident. But eventually, when he was better on the mend (physically, at least, if not emotionally), Kemal made his way back to the Locket for what he imagined would be his final time, intending to say goodbye to Tiana, since he didn’t imagine he would be able to meet her again, given the circumstances...and in response, she more or less said “fuck that -- pull yourself together! ...and if you can’t do it alone, then I’ll help.”

It was, more or less, a proposal. Kemal couldn’t mistake it for anything else.

They agreed to meet in a month at the usual time, in that familiar place outside the Locket. They parted ways, with Kemal returning to Almyra to keep working at his recovery, while Tiana immediately sent word to her father of her intention to marry Kemal -- something her father expressly forbade in his return missive before starting to seek out potential bachelors among the Alliance nobility that might be able to rein Tiana in. Not that she was going to let that stop her: she told Judith her intentions, got her best friend’s blessing, and on the appointed evening she headed out to meet Kemal, fully intent on going with him to Almyra.

(Kemal jokingly asked her when she arrived if he should carry her off over his shoulder to make it seem like a plausible kidnapping, to which she replied that she’d like to see him try -- and as a former archery star and capable lancer, he did not disappoint and quite cheerfully carried her off.)

Tiana was completely true to her word and stuck with him through his recovery, emotional and physical both; by the time he could start writing legibly again, both were dead set on the marriage. Unfortunately, Kemal’s father was less than thrilled, given Almyrans’ general feelings about the people of Fodlan -- but, as he reminded his son, the Rite of Challenge still applied: if he could best his father in combat, he could have whatever he asked. So Kemal leveled the challenge, selecting a light-weight sword for his weapon of choice. No one actually expected much, least of all the King of Almyra -- but unbeknownst to them, Kemal had been putting a lot of effort into blade training once he was well enough on the mend: in very short order, he managed to disarm his father and force him to concede defeat.

What did he ask for?

His father’s blessing to marry Tiana.

The King, understandably, was quite shocked, because he’d expected that Kemal would demand the throne (as is traditional when the Rite of Challenge is laid before the king -- not to mention the fact that he wouldn’t require a blessing if he were ruler). When he said so, though, Kemal only shook his head, remarking that he didn’t want to win the throne so easily: this was his father’s one and only warning not to underestimate him when he does come for the crown.

Kemal and Tiana married shortly after, and in the coming year Kemal did in fact level a true King’s Challenge at his father -- but though it was indeed a harder fight, Kemal still emerged victorious and took the throne of Almyra with his beloved queen -- and his father lived a very long life, with many of his later years spent doting on his adorable if incredibly mischievous grandson.

And there I have now written a small novel regarding Claude’s parents thank you for getting this far you deserve a prize.

#answered #anonymous #fire emblem: three houses #almyra #headcanon #i love the idea of claude's dad being a badass one-armed man #who can and in fact consistently does beat his son with a one-handed sword #he taught his son swordplay and their styles are very similar because of it #but kemal is still the champion and claude is happy to let him keep the title #also he and tiana are still very much in love and tend to raise hell together #if given even half an opportunity #for the record tiana is significantly taller than her husband #claude inherited his height from his dad #this is an ongoing joke among the family and their friends

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Edelgard Claude foiling. Both see that the world is wrong and that motivates them to make it better. Claude listens to people, Edelgard listens to herself. Claude reflects and introspects, Edelgard doesn’t.

I was going to write more but I realized I was just bashing Edelgard so I stopped. Anyways, the Gatekeeper has a backstory??? a younger twin brother and they’re from the empire?? Also wow Edelgard is REALLY into you (the light in the darkness pft)

I also want to comment how the Church of Seiros unlike some other fantasy religions really is like real life historical (and current) religious organizations. There’s a mix of people from the non believers but there to help, to those that believe this is the best way to help people, to those looking for power, to the people who are there because its a way to make a living. I want to make clear though that Sothis/The Goddess is dead and she can only act a little bit through Byleth. Before the game The Goddess has NO influence on Fodlan. Anyone praying is doing nothing in terms of reaching The Goddess.

Hilda: Tell me what I’m thinking about right now.

Ferdinand: Hmm... You want a snack.

Hilda: I DO want a snacc ;) ;) ;)

supports: Ashe Dedue, Sylvain Felix, Ingrid Dimitri, Hubert Ferdinand, Petra Claude, Marianne Ignatz

3h totally fooled me with the hair colors. I’m too use to JRPGs have rainbow haircolors so I think nothing of it but in this game the white/green hair are plot significant.

Somehow related to dragon shenanigans(white/green): Sothis, Lysithea, Flayn, Edelgard, Byleth, Rhea, Seteth

Plausibly a normal color with weird undertones: Ignatz, Shamir, Petra, Felix, Lindhardt,

That inexplicably JRPG colored hair: Bernadetta, Hilda, Caspar, Marianne, Ashe, Lorenz

Ch14 of Crimson Flowers has made me unfathomably sad. Claude hold himself so tightly, closed off with high walls. He always has a face on, doesn’t break composure. But in ch 14 in the face of losing his dream you can see the cracks in walls. And Claude may be closed off but he is in no way cold hearted or uncaring, he cares so much and you see that as the Empire gains ground. That battle is one of the few glimpses of Claude. Whether he is killed or spared, both are sad. The cut scene after Claude is spared is seemingly lighthearted and a tonal contrast to the serious battle right before it. Without knowing Claude better it seems like a breather before more plot happens, but knowing Claude that scene really breaks my heart. In contrast with the moments of honesty during the battle, Claude’s social mask has snapped right back into place, hiding all of his pain. Claude’s dream meant all to him, being able to walk side by side with his friends in a new world, and that dream just took a devastating blow. Claude is by no means dishonest during that scene, but knowing how devastated he is on the inside yet forcing himself to hold it all together... He’s sad and now I’m sad.

The Insurrection of the Seven is fascinating to me. Just because people keep saying different things about it. Was the Emperor seeking to consolidate power for the throne and the nobles stopped him or where the nobles always seeking to turn the Emperor into a puppet ruler? To my limited knowledge I think for a while Emperors had been losing power. Enough so that the experiments on Edelgard and her siblings could not be stopped. He then tried to expand his power and was crushed.

Crimson Flower is quite interesting. Edelgard and Hubert are walking a fine line balancing the church and the Agarthans. The Empire appears unified but its a shell for the Agarthans and Edelgard is betting on the appearance of that shell.

Wow Dimitri is surprisingly sane and not feral in CF. Does the purple clouds in Dimitri’s death CG remind anyone else of the S support CGs?

Lysithea and Edelgard can bond over shared childhood experiences and being short

Can you imagine Claude, Hilda, and Sylvain as a squad. They would radiate such chaotic energies just standing next to each other that Nemesis would leap out of his cyberpunk containment pod and start dancing to leek spin

How is Dimitri clean shaven post timeskip?? Most people in the grips find it hard to be functional and do basic tasks and your telling me he meticulously shaves everyday? I'm calling it. Dimitri is trans and can't grow a whisker

So the brits (and w europe really) went mad for tea and got it through colonization of india. Where does fodlan get its tea?? Its mostly too cold unless you want to convince me theres an extensive breeding program for hardy cultivars somewhere. Dagda?? We know coffee is imported. hot take: the empire started a war to get more tea

I dont talk about dorothea enough. I almost chose BE just for her. She hates nobles and its great. The voice acting is top notch too. Dorothea-Ferdinand c support is memorable to me because of the voice acting. The line delivery was so good. Especially the " I hate you " from Dorothea. She's so savage. She was the only one I considered S supporting after intsys robbed me of claude. Didn't go through with it though. It always feels wierd romancing fictional characters.I remember how P3 forced me on the harem route and wow that was uncomfortable. Dorothea is kind. I like kind people. She's so full of love (Manuela is the other character overflowing with love), and her compassion extends to everyone. She understands the grief of war. Contrast that to local manlet Caspar. Once he's decided someone is an "enemy" he stops caring. Oh Caspar... All of Dorothea's supports are so good too... Dorothea's backstory can get a little disturbing. She's 18 at the beginning of the game. She began singing with the company at 10 and gained fame at 13. What troubles me his how she talks about how after every show she was innundated with marriage proposals and such. The way she talks about it, it went on for a while, and while sure the letters and stuff could have been from other teenagers, that she was getting all this as a teenager is creepy. In addition, then she talks about the nobles fawning over her and it made my skin crawl. But the worst was that a noble possibly her father was coming on to her . Like Dorothea, I'm with you. Let's burn down the world. Despite the justifiable anger though, dorothea is so full of love. Until the last her heart never turns cold.

Thinking about claude and edelgard. On one hand their personalities, ideals, and ambitions complement each other. On the other hand Edelgard doesn't understand how people work and Claude is a manipulator, guarded, he never lets any one in(edited)Claude can totally read her, but Edelgard reacts poorly to criticism and dissent.... Claude has no faith. Not in his dreams and not in himself. With out a push, he's not proactive. Edelgard charges straight ahead while Claude takes the circuitous path. "Defensive" thats the word for edelgard, she so easily thinks people are out for her. Whereas claude deflects. Both are fuelled by a sense of justice. Edelgard thinks in terms of eliminating enemies, claude thinks in terms of recruiting allies. The point is the the tragedy that they would make great friends! But thats not happening in this universe! Because edelgard's bull headed and claude wont open up!

Watching s supports and anyone notice theres 3 variations on the ring. There 2 silver and green ones. At first I thought small green stone was from people with common origins and big stone from noble. But I just saw saw one with a gold ring.It could be that the character is just that extra. And yeah it is gold is from Ferdinand and Lorenz.

Ferdinand was so obnoxious at first. But hes such a good boy. He does his best. He's trying very hard. Also, existential angst is my jam.

I just remembered theres only 5 saints in the Church of Seiros and does that mean the tome of comely saints has erotica of... like... cihol??? And cethaleann????? Uuuuuuhhhhhh...I dont like my brain sometimes.

so that whole fuss that byleth's mom was rhea's daughter was because tons of "gamers" chose BE first and misinterpreted Edelgard's speculation. When in reality Jeralt was the one who Rhea gifted her crest (seiros) to, extending his lifespan. Rhea then cut out baby Byleth's heart and then replaced it with Sothis's crest stone hoping that Sothis would posses byleth. All we know of the mom is that she was a nun and died young. Flames crest stone joined to Byleth's heart (CF ending cutscene). Rhea placed Sothis' heart in baby Byleth to revive Sothis (VW ch 22 opener). She has done human experimentation on people to revive Sothis before (implication). Seiros/Rhea did so so that Sothis would posses the body (Rhea dialog consistently referring to Byleth as "Mother" or hoping that Sothis will poke through).

The only time Claude’s anger breaks through his composure is with Rhea. This is significant as Claude almost never loses his composure, and this highlights how Rhea in the only person Claude hates. Claude doesn’t hate Edelgard or Dimitri or any of the other people that may kill him, just Rhea.

question about the Black Eagles/Crimson Flower ending: why does Byleth collapse and then Sothis' crest stone break? I mean I will give it a break since its symbolic and thematically significant and all and it was a excellent touch that Sothis' heart and Byleth's heart have literally weaved together. Is reviving Byleth Sothis' last act?? Why did Byleth have to die to begin with though? ... well maybe Byleth didn't die since they didn't have a heartbeat to begin with. So far the writing in 3H has been pretty good though there have been weak spots. I think that CF final scene was put in more because it "felt right" than because it was logical. it fits with edelgard's goals and what the route's been about. its just if you really think about it. It doesn't make sense based on what is already known. I mean crest stones could have other powers but I haven't seen that anywhere else in the game. As for the story as a whole, the main acting forces in the game are Edelgard+Empire, those who slither in the dark, and Rhea+Church. Claude also has his own ambitions, but those 3 are more deeply entwined. Each faction has its own goals and past and a good chunk of the game is figuring out what those are. Its also ironic that GD despite how Claude is not enmeshed in ... that other mess, sheds so much light on the other factions.

The main theme is probably about Rhea since it plays a lot during Rhea scenes and the church is a central focus of the story.

the "M-metal gear?!?!?!" moment will always be hilarious for me. On par with dollar store Hitler

Why is it Jeralt's voice on the map even after he dies?

God Shattering Star: How Many Times Do We Have to Teach You This Lesson, Old Man?

Dawn is a recurring motif in Fire Emblem: Three Houses. “the dawn of a new age” is or such is

Claude, a child loved and lonely

i think blue lions was written first. 1 the two monthly missions that have to do with students’ families are both in BL (Ashe and Sylvain). 2 two fairly important side characters at the monastery are related to BL students (Annette and Mercedes). Chapter 3 actually provides a intro for all the lords in their respective routes. Edelgard’s scene is serious but not especially sad, instead you can feel te fire burning within Edlegard and the scene shows how she’s willing to sacrifice the lives of those under her if she believes she is doing the right thing. Claude’s is actually quite light hearted in tone after the first few lines and it highlights the mystery surrounding him and makes him seem very sketchy. Chapter 3 in Blue Lions though is really sad. Ashe my baby boy. Here there is a sense of tragedy in the post battle scene

oh there is another Claude loses his temper. Its when a bunch of thieves (badly) impersonate Almyrans and Claude is so offended they didn’t put enough effort into the act and that they’re weak.

Major Player Goals

Rhea: revive Mother

Edelgard: take down the Church and crest system

Agartha: vengeance on the Nabateans

Claude: usher in a new age of tolerance and prosperity for humanity

Dimirti: keep afloat???

CHURCH SKETCH AF. Rhea always raised the hair on the back on my neck. I mean even in ch3 the first real mission. We're being used as a personal assassination squad because Lonato threatens Rhea's power. and then she's like. This is a public execution to give an example of what happens when you defy the church. and I was like !!!!!!! let's mentally/emotionally scar a bunch of teenagers into fearing the wrath of the church. Rhea: prosecutor, defense, jury, judge

I remember ranting about revolution and society in fire emblem games before having played this one, and wow intsys made a game for me

Ignatz and Raphael. I must protect both of them. sweet sweet boys. Raphael has the biggest heart and Ignatz just wants to help. Team Protect Raphael's Heart. Raphs is pretty emotionally mature too. he gives warm fuzzy vibes. Ignatz takes on so many burdens and clams up about his own pain. He doesn't place any importance on himself. Let my boy be an artist! Raphael certainly has pain, but he doesn't want a life where that pain rules over all else. Raphael is a force of GOOD I would have love to meet Lorenz's dad. I don't have high expectations of him, but I'm curious. we've heard so many different things about him. And he's one of the major actors of the story. But we also know so little about him.

o both Mercedes and Emile have the Lamine crest. If that came from their shared mother, why did House Martritz fall since she was heir? Possible answer sexism or finances. The other option is that both Bartels and Martritz have the Lamine bloodline. Also, Jeritza is younger than I thought he was Modern Advances in Missile System Engineering Wade and Kruger 7e 2XXX

Schöner, Alexa, and ZaiCheng Jun. "Applications of Dymanic Systems Theory in Autonomous Bipedal Assault Units". Journal of Robotics 18.4 (2XXX): 157-170.

I think I'm hilarious. heh. Imagine though, While digging around Shambhala Claude finds these and everyone is just confused because it looks like their language???? and yet the words! they dont make sense!

I didn’t really care when hubert died in VW, but edelgard's death hit me you know. Because both claude and edelgards ambitions are to tear down the old system. and seeing edelgard in that armor. Its like the timeskip all over again. Part 2 begins and you relize how much all the characters have grown. And while you werent looking edelgard has been going through her own journey. When you fight her shes wearing armor with elements from both the flame emperor and her part 2 outfit yeah edelgard is yikes. i agree with her goals but her disregard for yhe lives under her concerns me. And between her tendency to brute force solutions, those who slither in the dark, and the empires situation, I think she was doomed to fail from the start

When Claude ... half jokes??? that Hilda can grasp his throat, is that connected to how Fodlan's Locket (in Fodlan's Throat) is under house Goneril control?

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