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shutterbulky · 8 months
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The Tragic Impact of Conspiracy Theories on Mass Shootings
The Sandy Hook Tragedy: A Painful Turning Point On December 14, 2012, the nation was shattered by the horrific mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. The lives of 20 first-graders and six school staffers were tragically cut short. In the aftermath of this devastating event, something even more unsettling emerged—a conspiracy theory that sought to deny the very existence of…
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oasisr · 10 months
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The C*vid-19 lockdowns and the Mandela Effect are both psyops to determine how gullible the world population is.
The next step will be to stage the fake alien invasion.
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claudiosuenaga · 8 months
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Tributo a Philip Marshall, assassinado com sua família por revelar a verdade sobre o 11 de Setembro
Neste dia em que se completam os 22 anos dos Atentados de 11 de Setembro, gostaria de fazer uma homenagem póstuma, e que também é uma rememoração junto com um clamor de justiça, a Philip Marshall, pesquisador, escritor e ex-piloto da CIA, conhecido como investigador dos Atentados de 11 de Setembro, que aos 54 anos, no dia 2 de fevereiro de 2013, foi encontrado morto em sua casa em um condomínio fechado de Meadows Forrest, no condado de Calaveras, na Califórnia, com seus dois filhos, Micalia, de 14 anos, e Alex, de 17 anos, em uma espécie de "suicídio coletivo" que não deixou nem o cão de fora. Sean Marshall, sua ex-esposa, se encontrava viajando na ocasião.
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Segundo amigos da família, ele se sentia ameaçado e com medo desde a publicação no ano anterior do livro The Big Bamboozle: 9/11 and the War on Terror (O Grande Engano: 9/11 e a Guerra ao Terror), em que acusava incisivamente o Governo dos Estados Unidos pelos ataques.
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O título do livro foi inspirado na frase de Carl Sagan: "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us... Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." ("Uma das lições mais tristes da história é esta: se tivermos sido enganados durante tempo suficiente, tendemos a rejeitar qualquer evidência de fraude. Não estamos mais interessados em descobrir a verdade. A trapaça nos capturou... Uma vez que você dá poder a um charlatão, quase nunca mais o recupera."
Marshall estava convencido de que George W. Bush havia programado o 9/11 para fortalecer a posição da cúpula norte-americana. Em 2008 ele já havia publicado o livro False Flag 911: How Bush, Cheney and the Saudis Created the Post-911 World (Falsa Bandeira 911: Como Bush, Cheney e os Sauditas Criaram o Mundo Pós-911).
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Em um comunicado distribuído em 2012, Marshall disse:
"Pense nisso. A versão oficial de um fantasma (Osama Bin Laden) em uma caverna do outro lado do mundo derrotando todos os nossos militares em solo americano é totalmente absurda. Os ataques foram bem sucedidos porque houve uma operação militar coordenada que envolveu o treinamento dos sequestradores para pilotarem aviões comerciais de grande porte. Temos dezenas de documentos do FBI para provar que os treinamentos foram realizados na Califórnia, Flórida e Arizona nos 18 meses que antecederam os ataques."
Wayne Madsen, ex-funcionário da NSA e jornalista investigativo, especializado em operações internacionais de inteligência, descartou a hipótese de suicídio de Philip Marshall e de seus dois filhos. Madsen concluiu que eles foram assassinados numa operação secreta da CIA. A hipótese de suicídio seria inviável, entre outros motivos, porque a bala que matou Philip entrou pela têmpora esquerda, sendo que ele não era canhoto.
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Marius is always so soft and sweet despite being a teasing little shit and he's always showing his vulnerabilities with Rosa and I just... man I'm so soft for this artistic great dane of a guy 🥲🤲🏻
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agreenroad · 2 months
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A Gospel According To Scapegoats; How And Why Truth Telling Whistleblowers Are Punished
“From the inception of the Gospel narratives, we can see that they were not just stories written about a scapegoat—they were stories written by scapegoats…. When the [New Testament] authors told the stories of Jesus’s life or of the early church, they wrote and interpreted from this fringe position. The Gospel writers also focused on the stories of the marginalized…. These were the people Jesus…
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sequencefairy · 2 months
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ID: tweets from @boulevarddouble:
okay SO. Just FYI i have an insider contact and i asked him about this new google drive nsfw scare.
backing up is never a bad idea.
99% of people will be unaffected, and this is NOT a crackdown on having nsfw content on gdrive
"What I think has happened is that drive has made several updates to its spam/abuse filtering and one of the focuses is trying to catch spammers who share explicit things in docs with random emails. Which is good in theory, but has the potential to hit false positives."
his recommendation is to keep NSFW words out of your doc titles and instead of sharing the "open link", share directly with you beta's email addresses.
It is also more likely to flag up explicit images, though that is less likely to be a fic problem.
/end ID
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headspace-hotel · 1 year
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re: ohio chemical disaster
OP of the post I reblogged earlier regarding this turned off reblogs (understandable have a nice day) but I got a request to put the information in its own post, so here.
First thing: PLEASE be careful about claims that "The Media" is suppressing something as part of a malicious agenda, or that an event has been purposefully manufactured by "The Media" to distract from something else.
Not only is this a really common disinformation tactic (not only urging you to share/reblog quickly, but discouraging you from fact checking), treating "The Media" as a monolithic entity with purposeful agency and a specific, malicious agenda—particularly one that manufactures events to "distract" from other events—is a red flag for conspiracy theories.
There's already a post in the tag attributing the supposed lack of media coverage to "reptilians." Please connect the dots here.
Second—"the news isn't focusing on this as much as I think they should" is not a media blackout. Every major USA news source is reporting on the Ohio train derailment. Googling returns at least 4 pages of results from major news media sources. Even just googling "Ohio" gets you plenty of results about it.
This is an unusual amount of media attention for a U.S. environmental disaster.
Because this kind of thing happens all the damn time.
The "media blackout" narrative gives the impression that this is an unusual event that isn't receiving wall to wall coverage only because it's being suppressed—when the reality is that similar disasters happen a lot, and hardly ever get the attention the Ohio disaster is getting.
Consider this example, not too far from my local area: A few years ago, almost 2,000 tons of radioactive fracking waste were illegally dumped in an Eastern Kentucky municipal landfill, directly across from a middle school. Leachate from that landfill goes into the Kentucky River, which is where most of the central part of the state gets its drinking water. As far as we know, the radioactive waste isn't leaking yet, but it could start leaking at any time.
Zero national news sources covered this. Why? If I was to hazard a guess, I would say "because it's business as usual for the fossil fuel industry."
Consider also the case of Martin County, KY, which has had foul-smelling, contaminated drinking water for decades. Former coal country in Appalachia is poisoned and toxic, and laws have little power to punish the companies that created the destruction.
What happened in Ohio is just a little window into a whole world of horrors.
The Martin County coal slurry spill that is still poisoning the water 20 years later killed literally everything in the water for miles downstream (a book Mom read said 70 miles of the Ohio river were made completely lifeless). It was 30 times larger than the Exxon-Valdez oil spill, and it was in some sense "covered up"—in the sense that the Bush administration shut down the investigation because the Republicans are buddies with the fossil fuel industry, and proceeded to relax regulations even further.
Seriously, read that wiki article to get pissed enough to eat glass.
Hopefully the Ohio chemical spill will inspire real action to institute regulations to prevent shit like this from ever happening again. It's not the end of the world. It's not radically different from what industries have been causing the whole damn time. It is pretty bad.
I would urge everyone to actually search up information about it instead of getting news from Tiktok or Twitter, because the more false information gets distributed, the less momentum any effort to respond with improved regulations and changes to prevent future disasters will have. Plenty of facts here *are* public and being publicly discussed and pretending that they're not is actively detrimental.
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People making conspiracy theories about the Velma show show being a deep cover false flag attack by Big Reactionary to try and kill off authentic representation in animation I think it's more likely Mindy Kaling is (like most people in Hollywood) just a weird egotistical asshole and she got to make a (like most media in Hollywood) weird bad show.
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worldofwardcraft · 2 years
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Always a flag on the play.
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May 26, 2022
Flag Day annually falls on the second Sunday in June. But for many on the not-very-bright right, False Flag Day is every day. Whenever conservatives are confronted with the consequences of their own lies (in the form of mass shootings, bombings or insurrections), you'll find them bellowing that such incidents are “false flag” operations conducted by the FBI, CIA, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, George Soros or, who knows, maybe the lizard people.
One of the most prominent of these false flag phonies is InfoWars maniac Alex Jones, who told the world in 2012 that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings (in which 26 people — mostly children — were killed) was a hoax and a false flag action designed to promote gun control. Parents of the murdered Connecticut children later sued Jones for defamation and won.
Faux News host Tucker Carlson, echoing an article from a right-wing website, advanced a false flag conspiracy that the FBI had orchestrated the deadly assault on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. As CNN reported, Republican lawmakers, including the usual suspects, were quick to pile on.
They entered the article into the congressional record, tweeted about the Fox News segment, condemned the FBI agents who supposedly "organized and participated" in the Capitol attack, and demanded answers from the FBI director.
A review by the Associated Press of social media posts, court filings and other public records concluded that the mob was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including GOP officials, far-right militia members, white supremacists, ex-police officers and retired military people. But not a single FBI agent.
Then there's the recent massacre of ten people at a Buffalo grocery store in a predominantly Black neighborhood. Before going on his racist rampage, the killer posted a hate-filled rant on the Internet that repeatedly cited something called the "great replacement," which claims white people are being replaced in America as part of a Jewish plot. But immediately (and without evidence), Arizona state senator Wendy Rogers suggested he was a government agent. "Fed boy summer has started in Buffalo," she wrote.
This right-wing habit of trying to pin the blame on somebody other than themselves is (not surprisingly) similar to — and just as implausible as — Putin's government saying the mass murder of civilians in the Kyiv suburb of Bucha was a false flag operation perpetrated by the regime in Ukraine. Still, every time their lies and racism cause a horrific event, conservatives resort to the same, old gaslighting. The only thing that changes is the name on the flag.
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blanketforcas · 10 months
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🚩Cult and cultlike/toxic behavior: red flags in fandom 🚩
A non-exhaustive list inspired by my 10+ years of experience in fandom, both personal and second-hand. By sharing this, I hope to make other people more aware and able to protect themselves in the future. No fandom space or friend group is worth your mental health.
They claim they have secret information and use that to lure you in
They might either lovebomb you at first or make you (feel like you have to) prove your worth
The leader(s) of the group might not feel super approachable, at least not without fear of saying the wrong thing
They seem to create or point out a divide in fandom you’d never noticed before. Likely this divide isn’t actually there in wider fandom, or the need for it is wholly unnecessary.
They create an us vs them (outsiders) situation. Their group has the most knowledge and expertise, if others critique them it’s simply cause they must’ve heard false rumors. They are always the ones who are “misunderstood”.
Questioning statements from leaders/people with high regard in the group, is not without risk. You can get dogpiled, your intelligence put into question and gaslit about your own words and feelings.
You see discussions happen and get more heated, and at the end of that discussion the person on the receiving end of the things mentioned above ^ starts apologizing profusely and/or believes they are indeed stupid. However, if this person does keep defending their stance, they might get bullied or kicked out of the server/group chat
Too much emphasis on Being Right/having the correct take or theory – it may seem it has a higher priority than empathy and tactful communication
You need to have an opinion (their opinion), because silence equals condoning or agreeing with the “other side”
Everything is a moral issue. When everything is made out to be a high-stakes issue or reflective of everyone as a person, it's easier for the leader(s) to manipulate you.
You find yourself excusing people’s behavior because you agree with their point. The way they bring their argument forward and the tone they use, become subordinate to finding out the truthTM
There is such a thing as The TruthTM in every theory, discussion or analysis
If you don't Get It, it's cause you haven't "worked on yourself enough". Or it's cause you're not trying hard enough, or you haven't done enough reading, or you have blind spots only they can see.
There is a lot of conspiratorial thinking – maybe actors are trying to send us secret messages, maybe there is a Whole Lot You Don’t Know But We Do, Trust Us, maybe this or that person in fandom has tried to attack us and are planning a bigger attack,…
You barely/don’t have fandom friends outside of this group and if you do, you tend to intentionally (whether subconsciously or not) hide your experience from them. They wouldn’t understand the way they talk, they wouldn’t understand the way it works etc
They want to know a lot of your personal information. - might only happen once you get into higher ranks
You might get (more and more) specific “tasks”, it starts becoming a part-time job instead of a hobby/fun space to hang out with friends
Of course, these red flags are not always immediately visible let alone advertised when you join a group chat/discord server/twitter or tumblr bubble. They can also be nonexistent at first and show up later. Here are some general ways to stay vigilant:
Periodically check in with your values, if they might be changing & how you feel about that.
Keep an eye on the way people (and yourself) are being treated. Is it kind? Is it fair? Do you feel on edge all the time when you’re having conversations? Is your body more tense when you’re in this online space or when certain people are around? Be honest with yourself here.
Ask yourself: Is this space becoming my only coping mechanism? Am I spending too much time here? There’s no shame in spending a lot of time on things you enjoy, but do check in with yourself sometimes whether you are actually still having fun and if you are taking things too seriously or parasocialising a lot.
There's a lot of fun to be had in fandom and a lot of good that comes out of it - don't forget that. Keep seeking that. It's why we're here!
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queeranarchism · 1 year
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A cheerful thing in between all the depressing stuff lately: it is very interesting to me to see leading voices on the far-right discover that the new conspiracy believers that they have created are actually very difficult to control.
At first it was some minor conspiracy influencers who suddenly found themselves to be the villain at the center of a new conspiracy theory.
Then November 2020 FOX News found out that their audience would turn on a dime if FOX didn’t continue to validate election fraud stories, so they knowingly lied for months and now they’re in such big legal trouble that it could potentially destroy them.
Then this week Trump claimed he might be arrested and called on his followers to go out and protest, but he’s not getting what he wants. Most of the biggest MAGA voices are warning people to stay home because since January 6th they’ve convinced themselves that protests are ‘false flag operations’. So even Trump, the one least likely to fall out of their favor, can’t actually reliably control what his followers do.
And, like, who knows what’s next? So long as the people who believe that ‘The Storm’ is coming continue to get disappointed, they will continue to look for wild explanations and for people to blame. Some of big far-right names will do what FOX did: give the crowd whatever they want until one day the tower of lies crumbles. Others will fail and will suddenly find themselves accused of being a Deep State Asset or something like that. And they will find out that conspiracy theorists eat them own when they smell blood.
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paper-gold-theories · 2 months
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Villainous Theory: The Oldest Trick in The Book
(Spoilers for those who have not read Chapter 1-14 of The Risky Heist.)
Some villain rules I noticed being played out in The Risky Heist is that Porccini is a villain that wants to be a hero which he believes is the new version of villainy.
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How he is able to do so is to come up with a plan to capture all the amateur villains, which involves relying on his skills as a professional villain and using a mistake villains usually make to use amateur villains as bounty hunters and lure them to capture Miss Heed in order to benefit himself, the "hero".
Flug mentions in The Missing Cases of Park Orientation Video, is that having bounty hunters go crazy for money and do the work for you is a plan he would prefer to avoid as although it will have some benefits, it will most likely lead to unpredictable problems and their failures gives heroes time to prepare for the final confrontation and says that it would be better for a villain to use a trained army.
Black Hat also mentions that you can appeal to the emotions of a stupid hero as a strategy for a villain is to gain the trust of the hero so you can betray them later. (Rule 104)
This is what Porccini had plan and what had happened. He enticed a bunch of amateur villains to hunt down Miss Heed with a promise of a big cash reward. During the heist while all the amateur villains were causing chaos due to several failures in attempting to get to Miss Heed first leading to the King Casino's casino being destroyed and him losing his gambling business operating licence because of the destruction, the chaos also gives Porccini time to contact Captain Estrada to arrest the villains and his men (or his own armies) to do a clean up and eliminate Miss Valdoom, who was not supposed to be involved in a heist for amateur villains (though I theorized she is not really dead).
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Turns out Porccini, a trusted Villain, was just using his villain status and setting this whole thing up in order to make a deal with P.E.A.C.E. to help him take down King Cassino and give him the credit so that he can become a hero.
Additionally, despite Iluminarrow noticing the red flags throughout the heist such as Porcini hiring multiple villains for the job without telling them and Miss Valdoom saying that Porcini is a non-mind controlled Miss Heed simp (although that was proven false later on) she still chooses to go back and warn him of having a double agent he employed (with of possibly of getting rewarded to pay for her rent for it of course) because she i respects and looks up to Porcini as the most powerful mafia boss in the city. Partially her make judgements based on emotions (and it's also impossible to believe that a powerful high ranking villain is working for the heroes). Hence, Porcini also successfully implementing the Rule 104: gain the trust of the hero so you can betray them later, being acted.
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Porcini's plan was good and even though Iluminarrow, Mawrawsite and Humiko managed to escape at first, he would succeeded after he got the police to bring those to to them if he just kept his mouth shut.
Which, I theorized that if he did King Cassino would have killed Humiko for lying to him and wasting his time. And afterwards Porcini would have probably killed Iluminarrow and Mawrawsite making sure that no one aside from P.E.A.C.E. knows about his plan and he was able to become a hero by exposing King Casino as a villain.
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Ironically, Porocini's downfall is also making an amateur villain mistake of monologuing about his evil "heroic" plan, which gives time for their friends to rescue them, leading to King Casino finding out and P.E.A.C.E. betryaing him because of this.
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Because of Iluminarrow successfully able to execute her plan of tricking Porcini by executing Rule 72: Hide your true intentions until you find the right time to strike.
Another irony is that despite P.E.A.C.E, being a "hero" organisation, they made a smart villain move by betraying Porccini only after he is no longer useful to their plan and also rule doing Rule 104 of gaining the trust of the hero so you can betray them later.
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Flug mentioned in The Guide for an Evil Conquest Orientation Video that villains should only betray any alliance they made only if they know that the former alliance won't betray them.
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Even though Porccini saw that the police were arresting his men and were going to arrest him. He's obsession of wanting to become a hero still made him carry forward in directing his anger towards killing Iluminarrow, Mawrawsite, and Humiko.
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Bonus Rule:
Porcini also acts Rule 532, which is, a high caliber villain doesn’t get into direct combat unless the situation calls for it.
Throughout The Risky Heist, Porccini only sends out his men to do the job, however he got into direct combat when he had to face his enemy, against King Casino and snapped and had to fight Iluminarrow, Mawrawsite, and Humiko and that one police officer when he snapped because his plan was failing.
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bimboficationblues · 5 months
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as that anon message you got shows, the term "liberal" gets hurled around a lot as an insult on the left. what would you say are the necessary and sufficient conditions to be a liberal? i think having a straight answer for this would help remedy this sort of behavior
not sure what anon you're referring to. regrettably I don't think you're going to get people to stop using terms in loose or disagreeable ways no matter what, it just is the nature of political terminology (definitionally up for contestation) and language in general. part of the difficulty here is that the same term gets used to describe a political system, an ideology or hegemonic worldview, and a form of political identification
but as far as necessary/sufficient conditions go I like Charles Mills' formulation:
an axiology: committed to individual freedom to pursue the Good, governance by 'consent', the guarantee of specific political and economic rights (non-exhaustive list)
a social ontology: equal moral persons who are atomized or individualized and whose individuality, particularly their self-interested pursuit of their own Good, makes a functional society
a theory of history: endless progress, the accumulation of knowledge and the application of it to advancing human well-being (though this can be more or less Panglossian)
and would add a couple of my own:
a political methodology that gives priority to reform and positive law
an economic worldview that emphasizes the efficiency of money and markets and affirms private property as a central right (often *the* central right)
my own sort of working definition of liberalism writ large is that it's a kind of aristocratic legalism which has a key value of "security" (this is inspired by the work of Geoff Mann and Mark Neocleous), an investment in predictable, consistent outcomes that also expresses itself as a fundamental anxiety about the tenuousness of these institutions and of "civilization" as a whole (an interesting point of overlap between Keynes and Hayek). that's what I kind of see as the throughline between the combination of money, markets, law, and reform.
I would say that the elements listed above which automatically send up the yellow flag, for me, are the political methodology and the theory of history - either a sort of blinkered optimism/false realism about the ability to endlessly patch up our existing institutions or someone who has bought into a kind of linear historical narrative of constant improvement
even though I am not a market socialist and think that is probably excessively "liberal" for my own tastes, I think it is plausible to hold that position without being a liberal, if that makes any sense (it may not). inversely, the axiology of freedom, universalism, &c., often get cited as exclusive to liberalism, but I really don't think they are and remain unpersuaded by the various factions (commie, lib, postcolonialist, and so on) that have argued otherwise. not that I think ideas of freedom, equality, etc. are above conceptual critique per se, but I think I wouldn't assume somebody is a lib because they truck in that language.
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cryptotheism · 2 years
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can you reliably distinguish between bullshit people actually believe and bullshit they made up for the purpose of saying bullshit?
Oh good question, not an easy one to answer.
Belief is already a more complex thing than people give it credit for, and once you add grifters into that mix, it only makes it harder to draw clear lines between what someone believes and what they're just saying as a means to an end.
Alex Jones is a good case study here. I don't think he believes most of the actual, material things he says, but I do think he does genuinely believe in many of the larger, foundational, assertions of his conspiracy mythology.
Did he actually believe that sandy hook was a false flag? Yes and no. I don't think he actually cared either way. Does he believe that the Shadow Government does things like "stage school shootings"? Yes absolutely.
Therefore, he allows himself to simply not question the assertion that Sandy Hook was a false flag. Alex's mind operates on the assumption that all events are conspiracy until proven otherwise. (read: until it becomes personally inconvenient for Alex to continue espousing the conspiracy theory.)
I think looking at dudes like Alex from the perspective of "does he believes this vs does he not believe this" is only the start of the process, because its always more complicated than that. Bullshit is a diverse thing. It's like wine. It comes in many forms and flavors.
What's more useful when looking at grifters is looking at what behaviors are rewarded vs what behaviors are discouraged. Alex is someone who has basically never seen any consequences for his actions, so hes never really had to dial back on his bullshit. It's all in the pot. His real skill is in his ability to just freestyle conspiracy nonsense like he's speaking in tongues. Hes a savant at filling airtime. I don't even think he remembers most of the shit he says, but does he believe in the underlying assumptions of his worldview? Absolutely.
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merrinla · 7 months
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Just reading the epilogue file that didn't make it into the game and comparing it with the full release. So many questions. So few answers.
In the previous version of ending scene, six months later, you and your companions gathered around the campfire with the Withers and everyone told how he was doing. Halsin was talking about "nine whole wagons of children" he is now taking care of. And this line is marked as a non-romantic answer.
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At least at first it was a line for a player who didn't romance Halsin. Moreover, the answers of other companions are also marked as non-romantic. Many lines are incomplete and in |such modules|. For example, Minsc and Jaheira's answers look like this:
Minsc: |MINSC BLOCK| Jaheira: |JAHEIRA BLOCK|
Usually a line is marked if there is an alternative line in the dialogue. In this case, two romance flags are turned off (=False) at once. If Halsin is your only love interest (State_PartneredWithHalsin) and if you romance someone else and him (State_PartneredWithHalsinSecondary). In theory, there should be two alternative answers. This doesn't mean that nine wagons of children aren't mentioned. But whatever he was planning to say, the developers rewrote this ending.
At the end of the game after the pier, you meet with Halsin in the room and discuss what's next only if you romance him. Then he'll tell you that line about orphans.
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And a bit different dialogue for those who have become an Illithid.
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There is also a special dialogue for Origin Karlach. To be honest, I don't like it because he sends her to Avernus alone. But what confuses me even more. Whatever answer you choose it will be marked as if you chose death. And this is the future flag. No idea what the point is.
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As another example, in the ending with spawn Astarion some of the answers are also marked for the future. If we look for a way to walk safely in the sun again. And if Cazador is alive and we're going to hunt him.
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In other words, the game remembers your choice. But why, if this is the end? That makes sense for epilogues or dlc. Most likely the first.
But who knows. Dataminer Chubblot (this guy is amazing btw) found a bugged epilogue scene in the game where the Withers tells the fate of your companions. In the video he mentions Minsс, Halsin and the player.
Sleep, rest, revel. But be ready. For thou mayest yet be needed.
Sounds like a hint. Although the scene looks pretty raw. I'm not sure if they will finish it.
A player who has become a mind flayer should hardly hope for a continuation. A small consolation for Halsin fans, in this epilogue you stay with him.
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Meanwhile, I will cross my fingers for future content.
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nek-ros · 2 months
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i like the starship troopers theory that suggests the bug war is itself some kind of false flag conflict that the federation uses to routinely kill off the common folk and distract them from revolting against the federation, and the bug war got out of hand so now they're just straight up losing the bug war
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