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help i have owl house brainrot after the new episode and i cant stop thinking abt this so i’ll just jot down my thoughts here: tldr, i think that belos, phillip and “creepy luz” are all directly connected. spoilers for “eclipse lake” under the cut.
So, we got a Belos face reveal this ep which was... really unexpected. It was the first thing we saw, and there was no fanfare about it at all, dude was just straight up working on the portal with his mask off. Which seems... kinda odd for a villain who has been faceless for the entire time we’ve known him, and whose appearance probably holds a lot of weight. You wouldn’t expecat such a nonchalant reveal like that.
Furthermore, he looks a lot like Hunter.
There are many little things that indicate that Hunter and Belos are not related by blood: Hunter’s use of the words “took me in” implying that Belos had found him somewhere, and now, this particular book that also seems to imply hunter was specifically found and potentially even kidnapped by Belos:
I definitely do not want to discredit these, because I think they’re important, but I also think that the striking visual resemblance between the two as well as Hunter calling Belos “Uncle” are important as well. They might not even necessary contradict each other, if Hunter is actually the son of Belos’s sibling, for example.
This leads me to the relation theories that have circulated as of late, mainly about Belos and Phillip Whittebane. The two most prominent theories I’ve seen so far are the following:
Belos himself is Phillip
Hunter is a descendant of Phillip
Belos’s obsession with the portal and returning to the human world lines up interestingly with Phillip as a human lost in the Boiling Isles, and Phillip’s side profile bears a striking resemblance to that of Hunter’s. If we take in the new information regarding Belos’s own appearance into account, we can see that both he and Hunter share strong similarities as well, mainly through their hair and the distinct gaps in their left ears.
Additionally, this episode also gave us some information regarding Belos and his fascination with the human world: he’s been there before.
“You know, I’ve been there before, did I tell you that? The trees there are green, nights are quiet. I look forward to seeing it again.”
I think all of these things coupled together lend a lot of credence to the “Belos is Phillip” theory. However, the way Belos talks about the human world, as well as the discussion of how Titan’s Blood works has made me think about a different idea. What if Belos is to Phillip Whittebane what “Creepy Luz” is to Luz?
The “Phillip is Belos” theory hold a lot of water, but there are a few things about it that just never made sense to me. Such as:
Why would Belos willingly donate his old diary to the library, even if it was kept in the Forbidden Stacks?
How could Phillip have stayed alive for so long (especially now that we have his official appearance, and he hardly looks older than a strung out 30 year old?)
If Belos were Phillip, how could he do magic without the use of a staff like Hunter’s, as human don’t have bile sacs?
If Phillip made Eda’s portal, as the diary entries imply, then why did he not use it to return, and how did it get left lost in her backyard?
The last one has always been the biggest sticking point for me. The portal clearly was working and functional when Eda found it, and for long after, too. Why would Phillip willingly throw that portal back home away, and why only now would he suddenly be so interested in it as Belos?
But what if Belos wasn’t actually Phillip, but rather someone who just... looks a lot like him? Someone identical to him, who could take his place in the human world and leave that realm none the wiser to his disappearance? What if Belos was someone from the Demon Realm who, like Phillip to the Boiling Isles, became fascinated with the world of humans?
Think of it like the concept of changelings, human babies swapped at birth for monters that look identical to them. If something from the human realm gets lost, and slips out of that realm through a “leak” of Titan’s Blood.... shouldn’t something go in to that realm as well to balance it out? That’s what happened with Luz, it seems.
Basically, I believe that, much like how “Creepy Luz” is a stand-in for the real Luz back on Earth, Belos was a stand-in for Phillip when Phillip was lost in the Boiling Isles. Once Phillip returned, Belos had to go back to the Boiling Isles as well, leaving him fascinated with the human realm and desperate to go back--but with none of Phillip’s actual direct knowledge of how to do so.
Additionally, as this twitter user pointed out, we still have the scenes of Camilla in the police department and Luz floating in the black liquid to come in next week’s episode. I honestly think both these scenes will tie directly into the Creepy Luz conundrum as well as the use of Titan’s Blood.
(As for the Hunter relations to both Belos and Phillip--I’m not too sure either way. I believe this changeling-esque theory could stand true regardless of Hunter’s origins; I simply wanted to bring them up to tie into the connections between Belos and Phillip.)
edit: ok after scrolling twitter for a bit, it seems like the book indicates moreso that hunter may be a clone as opposed to a literal descendent of either belos or phillip... either way i am 👀
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It's 2:30 in the morning and this is going to make absolutely NO coherent sense but I still believe the Belos is Phillip theory after this episode. Bear with me here:
Belos is still Phillip Whittebane. While looking for a way home, it's possible that Phillip's brother became more comfortable in the Demon Realm. Maybe he had a family-- maybe with the mentioned great grandmother of the Clawthornes (owing explanation as to how Eda seemed to intricately know Belos), or with the Witch that had originally "tricked" the two of them into entering. Phillip, upset that his brother left his life behind and was content with living on the Isles, maybe created a new portal and was going to force his brother and himself to enter, leaving them back on earth. This failed, though, and only Phillip's brother was sent back. This explains how the townspeople learned what happened even though the both of them had gone missing. Maybe his spouse or child then cursed Phillip using wild magic, giving credence to the line "wild magic has destroyed our family". The reason Belos would have Hunter call him uncle is because he's literally Hunters actual uncle or a great uncle. This would also explain Hunter being magickless and mentioning several of his ancestors being magickless. This also might explain as to why the bird palisman is sticking with Hunter-- we know that patterns with palismen get passed down through families (with Dana calling owls a "Clawthorne thing), and one of the brothers had a bird that looked like the palismen on his shoulder.
This, however, doesn't explain the 400 year gap. Or the grimwalker thing. We know that Witches and Humans have approximately the same lifespan and are practically the same despite a few morphological differences. I wonder if the same curse Belos has has gifted him with a longer lifespan. At the same time, though, why only begin his takeover of the isles within the last 50 years?
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