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could i request a storyteller archetrope?
Storyteller Archetrope
[PT: Storyteller Archetrope]
Storyteller Archetrope, a Archetrope(link) term witch is a Alterhuman term. Archestoryteller is when person who is a Storyteller and/or state of being a Storyteller. Or where one one heavily identifies with or otherwise experiences an Storyteller archetype, trope, or otherwise preestablished character model in a way that is central to their identity. (I am not the best at explaining so I would suggest to press the link)
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rabidbatboy · 1 month
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CANNIBAL ARCHETROPE: an alterhuman term for those who identify as the archetype or character trope of a cannibal
TAGGING: @kin-flags
🧼 ——— FLAG COINED BY ME
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mechanical-sunchild · 3 months
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'Archetropes aren't alterhuman, that's normal human experience '.
No. It's normal human experience to feel that you fit an archetype or trope. It's normal human experience to have a favourite archetype or trope and gravitate towards characters who display it or even try to display it in yourself or your OCs.
It's not really going to be considered normal if you say you are the embodiment of that archetype or trope, partially or completely. Or if you identify with it in such an intense way that it completely shapes the entirety of your being including possibly your therio/kin/fictotypes.
It's not generally regarded as average to see yourself not exactly as a person but as an archetype of a person, a trope of a person. To the side of being human because you are a concept and apply to humans but you are still basically just a concept with a body. That's alterhuman.
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anomalymon · 3 months
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I stumbled on archetrope term coinings, and how do other archetropes feel about that?
For us at least, the thing with archetropes is you can be any archetype. There's people in my system with archetropes that are otherwise undescribed literary patterns. Several of us have tarot or fairy tales as archetropes. There's a level of identity freedom, creativity, and exploration.
With term coining, it feels like it's the antithesis of that to me. Like it's turning the focus onto the label or label hoarding aspects instead of that introspection, and making it so it needs to be a "thing".
I guess it also feels like if there were coining posts for "cloudkin" or "wyrmkin" or something like that. Like just because you were the first to make a flag for a label and post it on Tumblr doesn't make you the coiner of it inherently.
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losergendered · 6 months
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ID: a flag with seven stripes. the middle one is wider than the rest. they are midnight blue, muted cerulean, baby blue, light gray, gray, dark gray, and black. centered on the flag is a black archetrope symbol with a white outline. END ID
Losearchetropic: a gender related to being a loser archetrope
For (late) day 1-2 of @hisreturn event!
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scr-ppup · 27 days
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Caretaker 2 whumpee archetrope
[PT/Caretaker 2 whumpee archetrope/end PT]
An archetrope term/flag for those who identify with the caretaker to whumpee/caretaker turned whumpee archetype or trope from whump media.
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Taglist: @radiomogai @io-archival @kin-flags
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kiruliom · 11 months
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no spoons for ID
slasher archetrope flag
tagging @gender-mailman again :3
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[TS: do not reupload anywhere public unless Im credited and informed (please), flag is ghostfacelover by gender-mailman. end TS]
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aetherive · 1 year
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Hey, uh, could I ask for detective archetrope flag? Please.
Yep! Sorry this took so long, some irl stuff came up, and then I forgot about this ask and then rushed to make it once I remembered I forgot ^^"
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[ Image ID: a rectangular flag with seven horizontal stripes, in the following colors from top to bottom: dark-muted brown, medium brown, pale brown, pastel brown, pale brown, medium brown, and dark-muted brown. In the centre of the flag is a dark-muted brown outline of a magnifying glass tilted to the right. In the lens of the magnifying glass is the archetrope symbol, two buds with roots sprouting on the bottom sides of them. /end ID ]
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Archetrope Flag Redesigns
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I wanted to make a version of the original flag being the colors personally…are bright as hell. So here are two versions!
Archetrope Definition(link): An archetrope is an identity based on an archetype, trope or other role which is commonly present in literature and mythology. Examples of this include things like pirates, nobles, clowns, and rangers. This identity has a pervasive effect on the person who experiences it, and can be related to their personality, career, gender or personal values and beliefs. It is one example of an alterhuman identity which is not (necessarily) based in nonhumanity.
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rabidbatboy · 3 months
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LOSER PROTAGONiST ARCHETROPE ; an alterhuman term for those who identify as the archetype or character trope of a loser protagonist
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🦇 ——— COINED BY ME
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[ PT / loser protagonist archetrope ; an alterhuman term for those who identify as the archetype or character trope of a loser protagonist
coined by me / END PT ]
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fae-scientist · 7 months
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Reminders for the nonhuman community:
Alterhuman ≠ Nonhuman
Alterhuman is more vast and expansive than nonhuman and includes those who are 100% human
Alterhuman is supposed to be opt-in. Don't call someone alterhuman if they say they aren't
Same goes with any other term
We're not all animals
We're not all canines
We don't all desire to run on four legs and bark at things
Some of our identities are humanoid/human-like
Some of us are human too
Some of our alterhuman identities are 100% human (some fictionkin, some archetropes, etc.)
Some of us are human but to the left (see: otherhuman)
Nonhumanity is more vast than simply therianthropy or otherkinity
Nonhumanity can be a choice and it's no less important than involuntary nonhumanity
Being nonhuman for fun is okay
Transspecies isn't transphobic even if a transspecies person is cis
Nonhumanity doesn't have to be spiritual/have spiritual explanations
Not all nonhumanity is the result of past lives
It's okay to not want to use 'kin terminology
It's okay if you're physically nonhuman
It's okay if you don't subscribe to the idea of "of course we know we're ACTUALLY human"
It's okay if your experience is different than the vast majority of nonhumans
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catadromously · 26 days
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please tell me more about the alterhuman thing in your recent post (whether your experience or things in general) if you are comfortable! i would love to know more. i know very little about it other than some brief descriptions from impersonal online sources, but the way your blog mentions tiny things here and there like blurring human/animal divisions, or conscious/nonliving or even tangible/conceptual things makes me feel seen, so i imagine the alterhuman topic would not be so foreign a concept to me or other tumblr users in this sort of niche :)
no indeed! alterhumanity is a term encompassing nonhuman identities of all sorts; most well-known are probably the -kin people with specific creature identities, but the umbrella is wide. my experience is not otherkin and I have no specific nonhuman being to point to. I'm simply nonhuman in general. I just am. I'm an Entity, Creature, Visitor, Other, and have been my whole life.
alterhumanity can also involve partial (or, uh, altered) human identity, and thus, like a fair few other alterhumans out there, I see myself as partially - or at least functionally - human as well! I understand myself alongside "disguised as human" or "chosen human" or "caught between worlds" narratives; as long as I can remember I've felt this ... almost painful seen-ness and protectiveness over those sorts of characters when I encounter them in fiction. I think the best label description of my alterhumanity is generally nonhuman and Chimera or Chosen Human archetrope. archetropy my beloved...
now I do know exactly why I'm like this, and yes, it is the autism. big shocker. I'm sure I'll see some fellow autistics nodding along when I say that for many and multifarious reasons my experience of the world, through most of life, was not conducive to the formation of a human self-identity. simple as that. that's psychological alterhumanity for you, babey! sometimes it's felt practical, sometimes deeply painful and othering, but now, after a whole damn lot of Stuff and Happenings, I find it freeing. I've made the choice to embrace and embody my alterhumanity and my position as a Visitor and Chimera to the human sphere. I like it here. I'm here to stay, in my Other self, in my beloved improbable human life. I am cringe, yes, and I am free.
sometimes I run across people complaining about alterhumans (and especially -kin) as some kind of deeply embroiled online-exclusive microphenomenon, and I have to laugh a little. you know, all of these people probably already know someone like me, just out here chugging along in our normal-ass lives, being creatures. we're elders and children, we have families and friends and careers, we can be super obvious about our identities, or nonchalant, or secretive. we're everywhere!
if you've got an alterhuman in your life, say hi to them for me today, ok? tell them an internet stranger wants them to know they're never alone in this.
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tempestgnostic · 8 months
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Cultivating Authenticity in the Community Garden
A whole world of possibility opened up for me years ago when I realized that alterhuman/nonhuman identity isn’t solely one experience. You don’t have to believe in past lives. You don’t need to go through shifts. If you don’t have a visual representation of your alt/non identity, that’s alright. Our experiences are broader than that, and we need to encourage others to understand and affirm this, so we can encourage authenticity and learn about different paths to this identity that still hold the core of what it means to be alt/non.
I believe conceptkin truly changed the game for our community in a profound way. Here we see folks who possess very strong and impactful connections to abstract concepts, to the extent that they are these concepts, just as I am the archetypal werewolf. I see little difference between our experiences in general. I don’t personally believe my identity comes from a past life, and I only have the fuzziest ideas about what I would look like if I could physically represent myself accurately. This isn’t uncommon in the broader alt/non community, but it seems to be an experience shared by many conceptkin in particular.
Archetropes are another excellent example. We’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what being alt/non is for us, in order to explain ourselves more accurately and hopefully pave the way for others to do the same. Our community thrives when we take the anthropological approach: we start from the assumption that others want to represent their beliefs and experiences honestly. We keep in mind the limitations of language, as well as the accepted norms of our community that often dissuade ‘fringe’ belief. The truth is that our experiences are fundamentally real and ultimately valuable to understanding who we are.
If we want to truly encourage authenticity in the alt/non community, we must cultivate a hungry curiosity. We must learn to parse out what is truth and what is trolling, but also to give that initial benefit of the doubt, however briefly. We must recognize that we don’t all speak the same language, nor do we all agree on which terms mean what, and many of us have only been exposed to bits and pieces of the whole. We all make mistakes that require prompt correction, but we should approach that correction with some level of grace. Community-wide understanding is not instantaneous—far from it. Our work must be painfully collaborative.
None of what I’m saying here is new or revolutionary, by any stretch. Our community has decades of history, kept alive and accessible by amazing community members who have dedicated an incredible amount of time and energy to doing so. I repeat these sentiments because they bear repeating. I’m a big fan of the “Holy shit! Two cakes!” philosophy, and if my perspective can offer something insightful, then I’m happy to share it. (Hell, I’ll share it anyways.)
I have been welcomed into this community with open arms (and open limbs and wings of all kinds). I’ve had the pleasure of meeting fellow community members offline, and discussing our alt/non identities in meatspace has been a joy that’s wholly indescribable. I’ve never felt so seen, so profoundly understood, and I consider it a fine blessing to have found my way here.
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actuallyfallen · 5 months
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Archetropy and Personal Choice
I had heard the word "archetrope" around the alterhuman community before the OtherCon (the biggest convention for alterhumans) 2023. Although in vague terms, I had heard of it. I sort of got the vibe from the word, so I never felt the need to look into it. A vague sort of, "Identifying with an archetype, or a trope from media," vibe. What came to mind for me was tropes like the knight, the prince, the rogue. Classic roles. The stuff you'd see on tarot cards or such. The alterhuman community is known to look down on "newer" sources of identity, after all (see the long-standing hesitancy to accept fictionkin).
So, when I joined the panel being hosted by someone named Vyt (who can be found on tumblr, as @thelightfluxtastic) all about archetropy, I thought I knew what to expect.
Vyt described their archetype as "the right-hand man".
Well, Vyt mostly talked about "the paladin" as their main tropetype. But that was the sort of archetype I expected. "The right-hand man" may not be considered a "modern" archetype, but the specific phrase of "right-hand man" for it feels rather new in comparison to how I viewed archetropy before.
My mom was a pastor.
She was in charge of a very large building, which acted as a place for church services on Sundays, and as a kindergarten during the day. I remember watching my mom being up on the church's stage. I didn't learn until I was an adult that she actually had stage fright. I remember stalling whenever I went to the principal's office, because, of course I went to my mom's school for kindergarten. And going to the principal's office when your mom is the principal is certainly… a time, of sorts.
I was a good little Christian kid, though. I was a trouble child due to my undiagnosed autism making me seem "rude" to everyone around me, but I followed what my parents taught me to believe. One could hardly say I was doing so on purpose, though. I didn't even know there was any other option, after all.
Vyt went on to define archetropy as looking at an archetype or trope or such, and saying either, "I am that," "That's want I want to be," or both. Though Vyt also makes a point to say that "archetropy", as a term, was coined specifically to be both linguistically flexible and very broad in definition. It can be involuntary, voluntary, intrinsic, extrinsic, 'identify-as', 'identify-with'…
Vyt also discussed connections to kintypes for archetropal reasons. For example, being dragonkin because one identifies with how the trope of dragons are shown in media.
I can trace multiple kintypes of mine straight down to the same root. This Christian upbringing of mine. Surrounded by it. Suffocated by it.
My mom would often work late, so, as she locked herself in her office, I would be left alone in this huge building. I often stayed in the auditorium during those times. I didn't like the big, open area, so I'd often hunker down in one of the two more closed-off areas. Those two areas were surrounded by walls, but were very small and had no doors, thus, considered a part of the auditorium. One was decorated in green and black. It had beanbags, a step to sit on, and a chalkboard that covered the entirety of one of the walls. The other was pink. It had two chairs and a whiteboard. Covered with sparkly materials, it was hard to leave without some of it sticking to you.
I hated the pink room. Specifically, I hated the texture of everything. Almost everything had this god-awful fuzzy texture that was almost feather-like. The chairs, the rug, the walls. Even the pens there had a grip made of this texture. I couldn't stand it.
But every time the church children my age were there, the boys would go to the green area, and the girls to the pink. The teachers and other officials would call them "the girl room" and "the boy room". The boys and girls would often have one person standing guard near, or in, the door, just to make sure nobody of the opposite gender even got close to their room.
Even when I was alone, in that huge auditorium, I couldn't bear to enter the boy's room. It was wrong. But the first time I did, and I layed down on the beanbag, I exclaimed to my little brother, "It's no fair that you guys get these!" I was so much more comfortable there.
But, still, I rarely came in, even after the barrier was breached. I stayed away on purpose. I made my brother promise to not tell anyone I was there.
I was supposed to be a good girl. Never mind my intersex condition – a good GIRL. One who likes pink, who likes my church dress, and who likes the fuzzy, feathery textures with a smile, for the sake of how others see her. For the sake of fulfilling my God-given role.
As Vyt talked more and more about archetropy, it became clearer to me that modern tropes and archetypes were absolutely included. "The mad scientist" was named as an example. TV Tropes was named as a place to find a list of tropes and archetypes in media.
The TV Tropes page for "The Pastor's Queer Kid", describes the trope like this: "[The pastor's] kids seem to be every bit as perfect as they are, and have the perfect relationship with them. Well, except for one. You see, this one has a secret they're not sure about admitting to their parent. The secret being… Well, this kid isn't heterosexual (and/or cisgender, etc., as the case may be)."
I remember finding the page for this trope and lighting up. Scrolling right down to the "media" section, to see if there were any pieces of media with this trope that I would be interested in. Seeing one of my already-present kintypes there and giggling a little bit to myself. Oh, I'm so predictable! Of course I'd already have a character like this as a kintype.
I realized I was queer very young. Too naive to think better of it, I came out to my parents too soon. Not even a teenager yet, I had to comfort my mother as she cried over me being queer. One of the biggest God-fearers around, I was struck silent when my mom expressed that she feared me going to Hell, and her going to Heaven.
She phrased it as, "What will I do without my child in Heaven? You have scared me so much. I have given you a role to fulfill, and you have failed. Now, I must watch the one I love be punished."
She told her child that they would go to Hell, and be separated from everyone they love for eternity. Poor her.
(Pay no attention to the child, parentified and afraid. Do not look at the way its breath hitches when she says this. The look of disbelief on its face. She really thinks I'm going to Hell…?)
(Look at her, now. She is the victim. This is her spotlight.)
It took me years of purposeful work to undo the toxic mentality that I was taught. About purity, about martyrdom, about the flames of Hell licking every queer's feet. And I still get nightmares sometimes, but I'm proud of how far I've come. When I feel a surge of queer joy, when I see a queer person's smile, when I experience gender euphoria, I know this is it. This is what I've been fighting for. And I know that it's worth it.
I searched TV Tropes for other tropes that fit me, halfheartedly picking up a few more. I wanted an excuse to list "my tropes" on my website's 'about' page, just to add "The Pastor's Queer Kid" on it. I didn't care about the other ones I listed – I just wanted them to be there so I could feel like I had a reason to put that one in particular.
When the archetrope panel was coming to a close, and taking questions, I typed into the chat, "If people are certain archetypes or tropes in real life, would someone like that be able to identify as an archetype? Even if they technically just are it?"
I am my mom's child. I am queer. I struggled against the religion I was suffocated by, and came out the other side damaged, but alive. I try to let people know the sort of harm this upbringing can cause. I am purposefully open about this aspect of myself.
Vyt answered my question. "My default answer is gonna be, ‘Sure.' Like… I think there's something powerful in embracing something, on purpose."
On purpose, I am The Pastor's Queer Kid.
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scr-ppup · 29 days
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Whump caretaker archetrope
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An archetrope term/flag for those who identify with the caretaker archetype or trope from whump media.
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Taglist: @radiomogai @io-archival @kin-flags
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zuskiscoiningflagz · 8 months
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hAII! I'm just here to promote some sites (carrds, etc.) with explanations of alterhumans terms! They are good sites with (probably) easy-to-understand explanations! (so you don't have to search sm for the websites!)(possibly in alphabetical order)(some terms are not that well known)(tell me if you want other term here!)
ALTERHUMAN // NONHUMAN ↓ ( rlate / others.. )
Alterhuman Types Carrd
Alterhuman ( More Therian and Shifts
Aldernic Site
Alteraffectis Post
Altervexo Carrd
Amistelic ) Amistera Post
Anchorbeing Post
Animaive Post
Archetrope Post
Concerare Post
Casshuman ) Cassbeing Post
Cirrie ) Cir Post
Constelic Site
CopingLink Site
Dimenell Post
Eiment Post
Emportulum Post
Endel Carrd
Eulovia Post
Factkin Site
Fenikae ) Fenixal ) Fenixic Carrd
Fictionflixic Post
Fictionflicker Post
Fictionkin Site
Fictionodium Post
Gravistelic Post
Hearthic Post
Humanmore ) Overhuman
Icosahuman ) Multialtertype
Identimore Post
Infirope Post
Kardiatype Post
Kerbero Post
Kin Link Post
Likeness Post
Linosus Post
Musisonar ) Echosonar ) Vibrisonar ) Sonar Post
Nubil Post
Oggerare Post
Otherdition Post
Otherfix ) Fixtype Post
Otherflicker Post
Otherhearted Site
Otherodium Post
Otherspirit Post
Prehistan Carrd
Quixoris ) Quixote Post
Quoihuman Post
Root Post
Teohuman Post
Vior Post
I'll update this if i find moree!
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