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phxntomhives · 26 days

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My Kuro AU part 2

Because this is what I actually wanted to write. But I needed to first contextualize everything.

Part 1, with "the context" is here, if you are curious/missed it.

Spoiler for one major thing in the manga!

How O!Ciel got fianceé

Since R!Ciel is here, he is the one that is supposed to marry Lizzie, so O!Ciel is "free to take"

I assume this because Vincent and Rachel seemed to want to force him into the social rules, but on the contrary gave him space to be free and be himself

Maybe since R!Ciel had a fiancé he thought about trying to get one himself, but Vincent and Rachel told him it was ok to wait and that he didn't have to force himself.

Then fast forward to the twins at Weston, at the eve of the cricket tournament. Where the Bluewer older sisters start to push Adela on O!Ciel.

R!Ciel noticed the situation and went to kidnap save him from them.

I actually gave the sisters some names, let me show you (I didn't see any canon names aside Adela so I just went with what I like). Here they are:

Anyway, he is technically free and a wonderful possible husband. So they don't give up.

Lawrence apologize for days after the meeting. But if he is honest to himself, he likes O!Ciel enough so he isn't against the idea per se.

And because he likes him enough, he starts to call both the twins at his home so they can chat and spend time together. He also calls Clayton, because he wants to know how they are all doing at Weston.

After a while the twins convince Lawrence to invite McMillan too. They all just chat and have some nice time together.

Sometimes the other P4 join too because they were visitng Lawrence.

The older sisters make sure that Adela always passes by to say hi to O!Ciel. They also try to win him over because in general he grew on them. They like R!Ciel less because he is harder to tease and fights back.

After some "casual meetings" thanks to the older sisters, and a couple of actual casual meetings, O!Ciel and Adela ends up bonding a little and become friends.

The older sisters are celebrating and R!Ciel is pissed.

Some time passes and O!Ciel is getting more and more proposals of engagement. He tries to politely reject them all but some families are harder to convince than others.

When he is in second year at Weston during the eve of the tournament's party, he panicks when he is cornered by some ladies and says he is "unfortunately" taken. When asked the person he automatically blurts out Adela's name.

R!Ciel is nearby and almost dies chocking on his drink. He kidnaps his brother and ask him about the news and why he had no clue about it.

Vincent and Rachel are also very confused but try to not show it, unless until they hear an explanation. They just laugh it off and run to their children to try and fix the situation.

O!Ciel then explains he made it up. But unfortunately for him, rumors started to spread already. Vincent says he will take care of it first thing next morning. Rachel teases O!Ciel about having a crush and R!Ciel is pouting in a corner.

Unfortunately Vincent can't fix anything because Lawrence and his older sisters appears the day after at school and Lawrence is pissed. "I trusted you. How dare you defile my younger sister?"

Then O!Ciel has to explain everything and he feels guilty about lying but he didn't do it on purpose.

Lawrence says he understand but he should hold onto his words now, at least for a decent amount of time, because otherwise it would ruin Adela's reputation.

O!Ciel understands and this is how he got engaged in half a day. Vincent is in the back and has to restrain himself for laughing at how the sisters got what they wanted by pure accident.

The sister makes it so that Adela can also join them for the tournament so she can cheer on her fiancé.

She is awkward after they meet for the first time and hits him with a book. He apologize thousands of time, but since neither of them can rewind time, they are stuck with it and try to make it work. He also swears to never use her as mean to run away from problems again.

Their own relationship doesn't really change, they just hangout a little more often. It's the Bluewere siblings that are mostly affected: the younger twins start to call O!Ciel "big-bro" while the older sisters call him "brother in law" to make him blush and to piss off R!Ciel

Will they stay together or not? Only time will tell, but there is a basis of mutual respect at least.

If they stay together, Adela automatically wins the arguments because she reminds him he was the one that chose her, she didn't ask for anything, and he can just admit defeat.

In any case, she will become bestie with Lizzie.

#kuroshitsuji #black butler #ciel phantomhive #kuroshitsuji au #black butler au #as you can see I am very normal about this haha #i think i need help

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earlgreybocchan · 1 month

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It's not even a joke anymore I need to see Mey Rin.

#and my finny and bard i wonder how they're going to look in this new animation style #i don't usually care about animation styles per se like it's not something i bitch about but i don't love the animation this season per se:(#sometimes it's really really pretty but also sometimes i am like that's not how ciel and especially sebastian look :(#sebastian looks really pretty but sometimes he doesn't feel like sebastian? i like when sebastian was all pointy #i think sebastian should look like this is junjou romantica.#but aside from that i think the tone is a smidgen off from the manga? like the way certain things are animated are not as goofy as the manga #when usually i don't feel a weird imbalance there sometimes it lands now and sometimes it doesn't #oh back to the original point i wish we had done an obligatory house episode ik the arc is just like this in the manga but uh so was circus #we're in the same situation where it's been so many years since the anime has been on air AND we are in a situation where we got 11 eps...#...out of this arc i think it would have made perfect sense to have a house episode with everyone #bc at its heart black butler is about the house ciel has made and the bit they all have going there #everything bad happens now bc he goes out of the house!! the house is the safe space control group type of environment #that's part of why the murder arc is so fun bc everyone there is in complete control of it and ciel's a stay at home not talk guy #everything outside of the house is fake! that's why it's the bit that they're pretending to be fake inside!#that's necessary to orient you to this story and ciel but whatever anyway 😔#small gripes that pick at me occasionally i just haven't had the time or mental space to voice them here #kuroshitsuji #my kuro posts

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thatgirlonstage · 8 months

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Given my proclivity for both fantasy and amnesia stories it’s probably not actually THAT weird that it’s happened twice — altho in fairness, neither of these start with amnesia as a selling point, so it’s not like I sought them out — but if I had a nickel for every time the question “Who?” was one of the single most emotionally devastating things that happens in a whole series I sure would have two nickels

#…oh dear now I am thinking about other series that could destroy me with this question #hey uh. hey uh. what if black butler #what IF #undertaker got ciel out of his deal by editing his cinematic record somehow #and snipping out the memories of Sebastian #fuckin. a ciel who thinks he got hit in the head really fucking hard the night his parents were killed #and has spent the last few years recovering from the brain trauma with severe memory loss #it’s okay though you see #bc his brother 🙃 is here 🙃 to take care of him 🙃🙃🙃#one of the servants manages to get to him #probably finny. I think finny would be the most heartbreaking #and bc he always fixes everything asks ‘where’s Sebastian?’#ciel: ‘Our dog? he died—‘#finny: no! your butler! sebastian!#ciel: who?

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dante-redgravee · 9 months

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Childish war except it's the phantomhive twins trying to kill each other.

#i think about this every time i listen to this song #i am listening to it right now #phantomhive twins #o!ciel #fuck you bob

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kaoharu · 4 months

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dudeeeeeeeeeee

#✧ chatting !#im so normal. normaling it up or whatever #you would mever guess what im thinking about #hjngnsnnsnnnsskk #eueueueueueueueueueuueueueueueuueueueueueueuue #im sorry for the person i am today ciel being a special guest for this dea.rvo season is literally godsend #i choose to believe all my cryong about him manifested this happening okau

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icewindandboringhorror · 1 year

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Current temperature inside of my room right now in the middle of the night whilst about to go to sleep... villain origin story...

#You just get SOOOOO tired of being hot all the time for multiple days straight.. with very little relief ever... hhHHHH #I forget that I literally lose my mind and become evil every summer like clockwork #I don't evenknow what I mean by that because I'm just as calm/monotone as ever lol.. but I just feel more evil.. low level pent up rage #or something. nothing changes on the outside but on the inside it's like hmm.. I'm like 5% more hostile than I usually am #not outwardly expressed still of course. but just.. my bones are made of a little more violence recently..#percentages moving around. My character stats get a temporary modifier all summer where I feel chronically just a LIIIITLE more noticably #unhinged. like I will never do it of course. but I will think about. maybe I'll just throw all the plates at the wall and break every wind #ow with a baseball bat. No. I shant. I would never.. but .. I could. 5% more than I usually could. But I shan't. but let it be known.. I #c o u l d ...i COULD.. if I had to. but I don't.. but still.. keep the notion in the back of the mind.. hmm.. lol #And this is not even during a heat wave at the moment it's just like.. normal summer.. >:')#I think it's also largely the shitty apartment which was not built for coolness. Like older houses will have tall cielings and those window #above the doors and ceiling fans and be built high up from the ground and all these other ways to manage warm weather #naturally. but cheaply constructed dinky city apartments with no ventilation and windows only on one side and blah blah #It retains heat insanely like being trapped in a green house or something #even with all the windows open & fans in the house and stuff it just doesn't really move air well because the space is not made to do that.#Also really testing my anticapitalism/leftism/etc... sitting and thinking 'damn maybe I should play the stock market.. I should sell #some sculptures and overprice them.. howmuch could I charge for these clothes..' < *is desperate to afford a living situation with central #heating and air conditioning*#Haha! Guillotines?? who said anything about those? I LOVE rich people.. haha.. now what's a guy gotta do to instantly get about $50.000 ar #ound here? haha! kidnap someone and sell their organs? okay haha! I love the free market! going to home depot right #now to buy an axe! Don't you just hate taxes? so glad I live in the best country in the world under the best economic system on the planet #USA! USA!! USA!!! *visibly shaking. nose starts bleeding. you notice i am also levitating off the ground slightly*#ANYWAY gfgfgh.... winter......... my sweet child....i miss you so so much.... SUMMER you are my ENEMY #ah well now it's gone down to 80.4 Farenheight. cancel post. thats such an improvemtn surely I'll be able to sleep soundly now /s #what was I ever worried about? it's all good! haha!! *still levitating a little *#In better news - I have finished the Victorian Pharmacy documentary series and am now watching them build a medieval castle! and one of my #goofy joke song snippets suddenly got 6.000 views on youtube which was cool?? though very random? I made kale chips again. and had asparag #us. And saw a duck. carved a lot of things out of avocado pits. Little tidbits to keep me sane..#See a funny little duck outside and go 'hmm... life is okay actually :) I no longer want to break windows :3'#then it gets like 85F inside again and you're liek NEVERMINDaaaaaaahhh!!!!! then you see a duck next morning and calm down :)

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ceoandslutler · 1 year

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ciel-romantic asexual!sebastian and aromantic sebastian-sexual!ciel would be the greatest sebaciel tragedy of all time

#nsft implied #i just wanna say that this is no way an 'aces and aros are bad/tragic' post #i am on the ace spectrum myself #angst fic?!#have them be oblivious and think the other is playing hard to get #sex neutral asexual sebastian ftw!#ftw autocorrected to ftm and that's cool too #ciel initiating sex everytime and saying 'why do you never start anything with me?' and sebastian just blinking and saying 'do u luv me'#sebaciel culture is hating sebastian enough to put him thru this torture but loving him enough to let him be with ciel #sebaciel #kuroshitsuji #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #ciel x sebastian #sebastian x ciel #syshitposts

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earlgreybocchan · 3 months

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Lost my original post of this from the other day but I genuinely don't understand how Black Butler discourse ever shifted into the does Sebastian ~really~ like Ciel or is Ciel just dinner line of conversation that is pervasive as it is because Sebastian is the one that has absorbed his whole existence into Ciel's. Sebastian's face is what Ciel wants Sebastian's whole purpose is doing things for Ciel Sebastian's every hell of a butler yes my lord speech is about how he's Ciel's and Ciel is the one going around saying shit like whatever Sebastian is just my pawn 💅

#like sjdjdkdd??????#it's not that i don't think ciel loves sebastian per se bc. well. i don't think he'd ever process it in terms like that no matter what...#...kind of relationship they have bc the most important thing to him is getting him to do tasks like a dog and proving he will over and over #which is why sebastian does it all so overkill #but the most acknowledgement you ever get that ciel likes sebastian is stuff like idk the fucking book of atlantic you did good today #or if we're feeling really crazy the you were the only demon there line #like the dynamic has gotten way skewed in fandom away from the actual text #and i know why but it's still annoying bc i am not even saying this in a shippy way bc i don't give a fuck about ships #but they're so crazy entwined and in completely incomparable inhuman situations that it literally has no merit on this story to sit and...#...definitely piece together how this relationship works with real life normie standards like it literally is going to fit into no box of...#...what we think of as friends or siblings or parents or partners bc no victorian guy on the face of the earth has a real pet demon.#it's so boring you're missing the bigger picture that they're everything to each other and completely stuck together forever #does x mean y mean z? (least problematic answer only) they're stuck together! forever!#and no one has demons in real life it's all comparable to real life nothing #other than the asthma that's real #anyway. it's like fandom has made up a version of this story in their heads that is so devoid of anything that makes the story the story #twitter is like another planet for this i am mostly talking about twitter where i have been looking for news about the anime and oh boy #i have said this before but sebastian doesn't have a grip on human relationships bc he's not one and ciel doesn't give a fuck #but like this post started with and strayed from. well. sebastian isn't even trying to act like he's indifferent. ciel actually is.#and we're all missing several funny bits from that just trying to fit everything into a box #we could have more interesting conversations if we got past the same three people have been having for 20 years #kuroshitsuji #my kuro posts

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bloodydollies · 4 months

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Existing in this fandom as a Sebastian fictive is so frustrating at times

#still thinking about that post that was like 'I don't know how Ciel stands him I would literally rather kill myself'#it makes me angry #like fuck you #Ciel loves me #I am not lesser just because you don't vibe with me #what the fuck #I'm not that horrible #dolly.txt #dolly.misc #dolly.vent #not sure if this really counts but I'll tag it anyway #incredibly frustrated with the people here sometimes #I know being mean to your faves is a thing here but it shows up on my dash randomly and I HATE IT #I don't want to see that shit!!!#Tumblr!! please!! stop showing me that shit!!!!!!!

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fanfictionsworld · 11 months

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Can we plese please get a reader who's tired of Sebastian bullshit, like she's just there always facepalmed, not really attracted to him but treats him like every other boys (bitch lol). Like when he tries to charm her she just walks away with no expression, she's not even a tsundere or anything, just completely tired from the weirdness.

Okey i am so sorry for taking so long to write anything but here it is hope you will be satisfied.

Fem reader/Sebastian trying to impress but falling haha/reader is a bitch but a cool one which i love/Sebastians ego ruined hahah/

You are very difficult to him,which he hates.

You can not be impressed with anything he does and that eats him alive.

Why is this human denying me.

Like how i am beautiful,smart,i cook,i am everything any human could possible imagine,if not better.

He is alwasy thinking how he can step up his game with you.

No matter how hard he trys you alwasy find some way to not care or notice.

You avoid him everywhere.

If you possible see him in town with Ciel,you will say hi to Ciel and not spear him a glance..

Avoid all his questions of how are you,do you need any help with anything or are you free this afternoon,etc.

You just keep walking an completely ignore him while you shop

Which in truth is very irritating for him.

If he tells you any filrtatious compliment you just ignore him and keep walking.

And when you had enough of him you just top and say, ,,You need to stop folowing me around like a lost puppy you look desprate maybe you should do something better with your free time rather then stalking like a creep that you are.

To him that was like a dagger trough his hart.

He told you that which you responded with ,,Yes like you have one damon scum".Which he found incredibly attractive and he was deeply offended by that.

Of cours you did not care,you just walked past him wishing him a good day saying that he should you use him manipulative skill on someone else rather than you because you are not an imbecile to fall for it.

Sebastian watches as you walk past him,stunned and impressed.

He knows you will not fall for him,but is he going to pass on a challenge on seducing you of course not he loves playing cat and mouse with you.

#sebastian michaelis smut #black butler fanfiction #sebastian michaelis x reader #yandere sebastian michaelis #black butler x y/n #black butler smut #black butler x reader #kuroshitsuji sebastian #black butler x you #kuroshitsuji #kuroshitsuji x y/n #kuroshitsuji x reader #kuroshitsuji x you #sebastian michaelis #black butler fic #black butler sebastian #black butler imagines

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lacryem · 2 months

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— A surprisingly long and in depth look about symbolism in the recent G-Fantasy cover by Yana Toboso ✦

Including references, flower language, how to decode the meaning of flowers, and a little too much brainrot. As well my personal interpretation drawn from all the sources I looked at. And of course what all of means (and maybe hints at?) for Sebastian and Ciel… and maybe even Sebaciel?

Originally posted as a twitter thread, but threads suck and I forgot a couple things. so here now.

Disclaimer :

I don’t know FOR SURE that all these things were directly referenced by Yana when creating this art. But being a fan of her work for over a decade I've become familiar with her use of symbolism and reference, and believe myself to have a good eye for it at this point! I'm also pretty familiar with the use of flower language, including different languages, due to having been involved in a project about it and having to read wayyy too much about this.

Some of it also includes my own personal interpretation, but the meanings and info I based myself off of ARE factual. I think I made it pretty clear when referencing my personal interpretation. You're welcome to reach your own interpretation based off of the stuff provided!

And lastly, I'm not a sebaciel shipper. I'm not an anti (the complete opposite, actually) and have nothing against the ship, I like the narrative around them and how they're written but I don’t actively ship them romantically or sexually. So I'd say this is actually a pretty unbiased interpretation. Personal taste is one thing, but I don’t deny the author's intention and whats written in front of me! That is what this post is about.

Kuroshitsuji takes place in the Victorian period (1837~1901) in 1889.

The following are both important Victorian books on the language of flowers that I will be basing myself off of.

Language of Flowers by Greenaway Kate (1884), and The Language of flowers: An Alphabet of Floral Emblems (1857).

(Also, I’m treating Ciel’s rose as a deep red rose. Which is a bit different than red roses. But I am adding some relevant information about roses in general, anyway.

Now, on what they say about these flowers.

Deep rose, meaning "bashful shame". White lily, meaning "Purity and sweetness."

— The White Lily

Most people assume that the lily refers to Ciel's purity, and that’s a fair assumption. But I disagree.

Firstly, the one holding the lily is Sebastian. Holding it on his right hand, tilted towards the right. However what's relevant here is the VIEWER. From the viewer's POV he's holding it to the left. Note he also holds the scissors on his left hand, where he bears HIS contract seal.

How you hold a flower, what position you give it to someone in, changes the meaning of the flower. These context clues are very important. It tells us that 'purity and sweetness' doesn’t refer to Ciel, but actually refers to Sebastian (…sorta).

This may be a little confusing. Purity and sweetness, Sebastian?! I know, I know. bear with me.

These books provide poems to help us understand how you may interpret the intended meaning. The lily poem is about enduring trials out of love because of the purity and sweetness he sees in his lover's eyes and soul. I believe Yana directly references the poems I will include in this post in her new artwork.

— My Interpretation

the meaning of Sebastian's lily is:

"I do all out of love for the sweetness and purity within you."

Him holding it to the contact seal and cutting the flower could stand for him destroying this sentiment (affection within himself) that has arisen in him as a result of their contract by destroying the sweetness and purity—the source of it—within Ciel (consuming his soul).

Note: This is debatable, as 'reversed' almost always means upside down. But if you consider the lily facing away from the viewer as reversed then it could mean "impurity and bitterness" which fits pretty well with Ciel, and it being held against the contract seal which is a physical representation of his impurity, brought on by his bitterness.

— The Deep Red Rose

There something I find very interesting. The rose is in a teacup, standing in for tea (I think there's even tea alongside it in the cup.) From Yana herself we know that Sebastian's eyes are a reference to the reddish brown colour of tea.

Like I said, I believe this rose to be a deep red rose, which is a bit more specific than the meaning given to red roses. However I think the poem included for roses in general very much applies here.

I was going to add my thoughts but I found this interpretation that sums it up pretty well if you replace the carpe diem theme with a more "running out of time" or "impending death" theme, which seems to be a more accurate reading for this artwork.

Looking at the rose itself, it has no thorns or leaves.

It is not a youthful rose as its already fully open and losing petals. "No hope, and no fear" fits with the poem, the rose is basically an hourglass referring to Ciel. His fate is unavoidable, but this isn't a deterrent. He's dancing on the ledge.

The deep red rose means 'bashful shame'.

When you compare it to the lily, which is a direct proclamation, the deep red rose is a quiet confession one cannot verbalize.

Debatable, to be fair but given the tie in to Sebastian's eye colour and the fact that he is always the one pouring tea for Ciel, I believe the Sebastian to be the speaker here too, but this time speaking on Ciel's feelings (Hence why he's the one holding it) rather than Sebastian's own.

— My Interpretation

The meaning of the deep red rose Ciel holds, speaking about Ciel's feelings of guardedness, and in response saying:

"Abandon your bashful shame, and let yourself be admired without expectations (hope) or fear"

Sebastian speaks about Ciel's feelings, the deep red rose acknowledges his feelings but they remain unspoken.

The Waller poem is a plead for his beloved to seize the day, for time is short, and allow herself to be loved completely.

Her beauty is one to be appreciated, she is not meant to be a rose unacknowledged (unloved) in the desert.

Regarding 'expectations', I think this is more about rigid ideas of how 'appreciation' or 'admiration, might be shown or received. Sebastian and Ciel's relationship defies normality or 'expectations'. So this, too, would defy expectations a young boy like Ciel, or a traumatised boy like Ciel, may have.

From Yana herself, we know Sebastian's dedication and how highly he holds 'beauty', specifically Ciel's beauty.

The author of the poem proclaims that beauty not appreciated is not beautiful indeeed, and so he calls his beloved to come to him and be appreciated wholly during the invaluable, limited time they have.

We see the deep red rose's petals fall away, in my opinion not only symbolising the withering away of time, but also the crumbling away of this "bashful shame" that Sebastian ascribes to Ciel.

How Sebastian wishes to "appreciate" this beauty is debatable. How he wants to "admire" and "desire" (per the poem) Ciel is rather open ended. Wether it be in a romantic way, a sexual way or by consuming his soul.

However, I don’t think these are mutually exclusive. And consuming Ciel can easily be a metaphor for the former two.

— The Lily and The Rose

The Greeneaway book has this poem which im sure was directly referenced. This poem speaks about the lily and the rose in a direct power struggle and fight for dominance, until they eventually unite and reign as one.

Now when speaking about this "union", you could say it refers to their contract, but I don’t think so.

The contract ties them to each other, but it doesn’t necessarily unite them. So I believe 'unity' to be about the appreciation Sebastian speaks of Ciel opening up to.

"The Lily" and "The Rose" might be interpreted as directly representing Sebastian and Ciel, and the unity that would come from them joining and becoming a truly complimentary pair. I think a power struggle and fight for being the one in control is very accurate way to describe their current dynamic in canon.

It may also be interpreted as "The Lily" and "The Rose" as being representations of their feelings and ideals previously. And then it would represent these two conflicting expressions—a loud unrelenting and destructive devotion, and a guarded, bashful, unspoken reluctance— coming together and turning from conflicting to complimentary.

Or as it tends to be with these things, both!

Either way all of this is expressed under the sense of impending doom created by their circumstances and the contract. So there's a sense of urgency permeating all of it.

Also clear to me is a sense of internal conflictedness coming from Sebastian's message that is usually only hinted at like this, and some people end up overlooking.

Sebastian desires Ciel deeply, but having him would also mean not being able to have him anymore.

Sebastian is torn and that’s why he attempts to cut the root of his wavering feelings represented by the lily.

All of this makes me wonder about what's next, and if we will see these things said more blatantly. Foreshadowing with flower language and references like this, isn't exactly rare for Yana. I wonder if we will see this 'unity' come to be, and what necessary development Sebastian and Ciel will need to undergo to make it possible. As well as what shape it will take.

I also wonder very much about Ciel's perspective in all of this, as this was almost entirely from Sebastian's POV, but I think that's intentional. Ciel has his own goals and a lot on his mind. Sebastian's goal IS Ciel. So I assume he spends a lot more time thinking about Ciel and this kind of thing.

Thank you if you read the whole way through. Like I said before, even though the sources defending it are, my interpretation is not law and you're welcome to reach your own with the things presented.

Links for sources, including free public domain PDFs of the books mentioned are found at the end of my twitter thread.

— Thanks for reading! —

#sebaciel shipper friendly post #kuroshitsuji #black butler #sebastian michaelis #ciel phantomhive #sebastian black butler #ciel black butler #sebaciel #please refrain from ship discourse on my post. I don't care if fictional characters upset you. I'm looking at the source material here.

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