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No fan has any "right" to ONE's work, whether it be webcomic, manga, or anime. ONE starting a new series is his own choice, but it is perfectly morally permissible to not like him starting a new series because your prefer his previous work. "ONE wants to start a new series? Sucks for webcomic fans, but wish him well."

Oh, fan reaction? Maybe, maybe not. Or volume editors, as while online ONE technically has full freedom... neither her nor Murata are the final authority for what gets printed. That's Shueisha's discression, not theirs.

Yes, I read your meta... complete headcannon. There is absolutely nothing, nothing, zero, evidence of God having time travel. Like too many people, you using reverse logic "Obviously the story has to make sense, therefore any logic that justifies it is correct." No matter how honestly smart an idea that might be, it's the author who writes the story, not the fans.

Yes, professional writer... that's an insult, not praise when it comes to manga authors, there's a reason why so many manga start off good then go downhill, "franchising" and "arc structure" by its very nature puts commercial interest before the literary integrity. Just because ONE wrote two webcomics does not suddely except the manga from being spectacle based, simply because those webcomic cannot be appecriated for artistic beauty alone... while the manga can. So any story criticism in the manga is blunted.

Different does not equal bad, as shown by very, very few critics the tournament and early MA arc, compared to later. But different doesn't equal good later, no knowledge of the webcomic is required to show the manga's decline, the earlier manga tournament and pre-redraws are superior enough. Were the same people who loved the tournament and the retcons because of it, the same people who criticize the manga for ruining Saitama/Garou/Blast/God's characters?

ONE's writing in both his webcomic never faltered or degraded over time. While the writing has for the manga by falling into the same old, same old battle shonen cliches and tropes it was supposed to be different than. No wonder so many dispute the idea that the same author could have such a massive difference in writing quality, especially for an adaption like the manga.

Ho boy wouldn't it be nice if all the clickbait youtubers stopped spreading the rumour that ONE has ended the webcomic and actually used their brain a little bit.

I'm counting 3 separate youtubers, it's seriously getting old, annoying and disrespectful to the author.

If y'all love One punch man so much, stop being do disrespectful and entitled. He's not a douche, he would have come out and announced WC had ended officially.

Garou would break 4th wall and kick all these people's asses for being so unfair.

There is more to life than OPM webcomic and One punch man in general. There is also more that ONE wants to do besides a free comic strip. Give it a rest.

#OPM #One Punch Man #OPM manga #OPM webcomic #One Punch Man manga #One Punch Man webcomic #Saitama #Garou #Genos #God #Blast #MA arc #MA #webcomic #manga

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scumerage · 1 year

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Adele,

It it so wonderful and amazing to hear you have been laboring for so long to adapt so great and arduous a work as the Lay of Leithian. When I found the separate parts of Cantos I, II, VII, VIII, and X posted years ago, I was thankful for such a beautiful rendition of those few cantos, which you freely gave to the world, but saddened by the longing to hear the rest of the lay recreated in the same way.

Haha, how much like Tolkien you are! Just as when others such as Lewis, the Inklings, and publishers begged to see more of his work, when in secret he had been writing the drafts for Lord of the Rings, the Legendarium, and even the Lay of Leithian itself, unknown to the world, even fully by Lewis himself.

Thank you again for all the music you have, are, and continue to freely gift to the world. - W.H.

are you still working on the lay of leithian? please don't feel pressured by this if you're busy with other things right now! but I would love to know if you're planning on continuing it. thank you for all your wonderful songs!

Ahhh, thank you!

This is sort of weird response to this, but I've been working on it in the background since I started posting a few years ago; I just fell off posting because I'm not great at recording and was sort of lost on how to do that for such long pieces or how to host/share them...

But Cantos 1, 2, 3, 4, and 9 are fully written at this point, though they only exist as voice memos, as well as significant portions of 5 and 7 as well, haha

I'm more than half considering just posting a google folder, ha

#Tolkien #Lewis #Inklings #Lay of Leithian #Leithian #Luthien #Beren #j.r.r. tolkien #Lord of the Rings #LOTR #Legendarium #Finrod #Finrod Felagund #silmarillion

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scumerage · 1 year

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Of course there is no proof the web. is over. But given the manga divergence and a new series, people have a right to be worried the original story will never finish, since the manga obviously won't adapt it faithfully. But yes, those youtubers live on clickbait.

Clearly 164 redraw, which decided whether or not Saitama and Garou would talk or fight, was written on the fly. Couldn't even figure out such a crucial point beforehand. There goes the multi year master plan of writing theory. The Boros fight was redrawn because Murata wasn't satisfied, not ONE. In the interview Murata said his old fight was too silly so he asked ONE for advice.

Of course a new series by itself doesn't suggest the web. ending, but the manga diverging means them manga doesn’t need the web. As for writing, the manga surface battle and the last web. chapters were written at the same time, yet the writing style was completely different. Unless the argument is that they are two different story types, which then brings up the web. MA arc. Or if time and story type are both limits, by which logic no writing between any works are comparable at all.

Ho boy wouldn't it be nice if all the clickbait youtubers stopped spreading the rumour that ONE has ended the webcomic and actually used their brain a little bit.

I'm counting 3 separate youtubers, it's seriously getting old, annoying and disrespectful to the author.

If y'all love One punch man so much, stop being do disrespectful and entitled. He's not a douche, he would have come out and announced WC had ended officially.

Garou would break 4th wall and kick all these people's asses for being so unfair.

There is more to life than OPM webcomic and One punch man in general. There is also more that ONE wants to do besides a free comic strip. Give it a rest.

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scumerage · 2 years

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Web. #92 and 93 are the best chapters in the entire One Punch Man Franchise:

Web. 92 and 93 are the best chapters in the entire series, webcomic or manga (even the manga Drive Knight conspiracy in Chapter #119 isn't quite on that level). Nothing, not the Boros fight, not the Limiter, not God and Homeless... not even Webcomic Saitama vs Garou, as awe inspiring as it was... reaches the philosophical, ideological, moral, and thematic pinnacle of Garou and Saitama's debate.

Garou lays out his entire ideology, how heroes cannot save humanity from themselves, that evil and corruption will continue no matter how strong, heroic, or brave the heroes are, legitimately breaking down and deconstructing the entire idea of "heroes saving the world" and asks Saitama how can he possibly carry the heavy moral burden that Garou alone sees and carries.

And how does Saitama answer? He refuses to. He cannot, will not, take responsibility for all of humanity, he'll be a hero whenever he feels like it. Any other hero would have fallen for the bait and tried to argue that "No, we really are saving the world" and ultimately failed to adequately prove Garou wrong. But not Saitama.

Garou, perhaps rightly, is horrified by Saitama's simple and utter rejection of "trying to save the world" when he has the all the physical power in the world. He berates Saitama for daring to call himself a hero with such a nonsense and selfish philosophy... and outs himself to Saitama, who sees instantly that Garou, deep down, believed in the very heroic ideal he castigated every other hero in the world for their hypocrisy towards.

To which Saitama flips it on Garou, outing Garou as a half assed hero wannabe and hypocrite who lacked the conviction to save the world as hero. Garou was doomed to fail from the start, first because Saitama, a random nobody hero as a hobby, and second because Garou was too weak, both mind and body. Garou already knew that even a true hero, whether Saitama or himself, could never fully save the world...so never dared try.

Leaving Garou a dead man walking, with no purpose or reason to go on living... until Tareo cried out for him to live on.

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scumerage · 2 years

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What fan has said that crying over loved ones is weakness? No one has. All criticism of that scene is how Saitama's character arc is thrown out for the traditional Shonen archetype. That archetype is not inherently bad, many series have done it well. The problem is that Saitama, is not that archetype, and up until this point lacked a deep personal love for anyone, Genos included.

Saitama not showing emotion was dangerous and self-destructive? What? Far from it, Saitama being consumed by emotion was far worse, almost annihilating all of humanity... because his roommate died. Killing others because of your own pain makes you a monster, not a hero.

Yes, bottling up emotions is a bad thing and can lead to emotional outbursts... but that was never Saitama's problem... until recently of course.

A story about a man trying to block away his emotions to avoid the pain of caring is a deep concept, and has been executed beautifully in many, many works of fiction. But that was not and never was the story of One Punch Man... well... that is until recently.

The original story arc of One Punch Man was about a man who overcame every challenge and found success alone through his own strength and will... but found victory unfulfilling. Leading to his journey to find meaning in life outside of victory.

But it appears that story has been scrapped.

I think the biggest irony and pity is looking at the overarching themes ONE is painting about emotional constipation being dangerous especially to young men and that being a theme in both OPM and Mob psycho...

...is reading how people who are unhappy about the state of OPM and complaining about something like and I quote: "Saitama becoming a little baby over Genos dying" and another person stating "he went emo shounen protagonist and got upset upon thinking Genos died", is them exhibiting this same type of behaviour of toxic masculinity and emotional constipation and condemning showcase of actual emotions as something unwelcome and out of character.

Which is exactly the type of thing ONE is trying to tell is is dangerous and self-destructive. That they complain is poor storytelling.

Because humans are not robots. We have emotions and bottling them up will only cause unhappiness in the long run.

If someone has taught you that it's not ok to cry when your loved ones die because it's emasculating?

Honestly? Fuck those people.

It truly saddens and aggravates me that this is how some people are taught irl to deal with their emotions. Men specifically. Women have this luxury of not being judged for being sad or feeling emotional. It is regrettable that emotions are seen as weakness because guys have to be seen as strong or the society expects and depends on them to be like this in order to function.

You are not less strong because you show emotions, you're just human.

Express yourself, be kind to others and be honest with yourself. And if you need help, reach out to people.

We live in a very unstable age that contributes to existential crisis where we may regret many things if we keep on procastinating.

I think this is a fine message to send in terms of storytelling and the deeper themes is what makes the story in OPM so great.

If person does not like those kind of themes? That's fine.

But it is a story ONE wants to tell with OPM, something he feels is important because he and Murata-sensei are passionate about their work and it is not poor storytelling nor poor thematic because some people disagree with the theme and I honestly cannot say it's problematic or presented poorly either for point of critique, but that is my personal opinion and people are free to disagree with that as well. And everyone has the option to put the series down if it no longer interests them. One can absolutely curate their own interests online.

It does feel though that critiquing this aspect does miss one of the points of what ONE is trying to narrate however.

Probably the amount of emotion in OPM is why it has a ton of female fans too. For a seinen that appears to be battle manga on the surface, it thrives on the social interconnectivity between all these characters.

Don't be tryna squash that humanity like Saitama is trying to squish this mosquito, ya hear?

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scumerage · 2 years

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A prequel meme (no, not Star Wars, sadly) chapter to a past one I did of [Chapter 2022: Asshole] a few months ago. Here is the old post.

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scumerage · 2 years

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Fan Redrawn Web. #76.5-77: Never adapted by the One Punch Man Manga!

Redrawn by /u/_Kymedi on Reddit.

#OPM #OPM webcomic #OPM manga #One Punch Man #One Punch Man webcomic #One Punch Man manga #Saitama #Garou #Blizzard #Psykos #Fubuki #heroes #monsters #god #Monster Association #Monster Association Arc #MA #MA Arc

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scumerage · 2 years

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While there are many people that laugh at Genos, yes, no one actually hates him. But because so many fans love Genos and are heartbroken at his death (he’s clearly not staying dead), laughing at him and saying that Saitama doesn’t view him as a friend comes off as hate. Just because he isn’t Saitama’s best friend in the whole wide world doesn’t mean Genos isn’t one of the best characters in the entire series.

One little good thing to come out of the latest chapter is Genos appreciation.

-Sorry, a rant-

Despite most of the discourse I have seen about him getting me like this:

‘How can people say the most foolish things with such confidence?’ It’s been explained to us that he doesn’t work like that! And-He-Is-A-Cyborg.

Keep reading

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scumerage · 2 years

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Farewell to @Gofancyninjaworld and probably Tumblr:

> Posting my last response to gofancyninjaworld, given as an anonymous question after she blocked me: Hello, I'm sure by the timing you know who this is.

I know we have had our disagreements, I'm not going to pretend that we don't. However I just wanted to say I have thoroughly enjoyed many of your posts, even the ones I disagreed with, for your impeccably lovely writing style. As well as for all the amazing ideas and analyses, not just the ones I agreed with, but especially the ones I disagreed with. Much of my writing for One Punch Man was inspired by you, over the past 6 years I've followed you on reddit and then Tumblr. I only created my Tumblr account to better follow your work and to improve my understanding my personally favorite series in the world.

I guess all I wanted to say was, thank you. Thank you for the time you spent writing, and all the work you've shared with so many people. I'm sorry if I caused you so much pain that it was better if you never heard from me again. If that is the case, you needn't worry about me bothering you again, this shall be the last message I ever write you.

Farewell.

#gofancyninjaworld #OPM #One Punch Man #Reddit #writing #farewell #goodbye #Genos #Saitama

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scumerage · 2 years

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The Online Manga now has 3039 pages since Season 2... enough for 36 episodes:

I. Season 1:

Volume 1 = (01-08) = 18+16+20+23+20+24+16+24 = 161

Volume 2 = (09-15) = 23+31+21+24+25+22+17 = 163

Volume 3 = (16-20) = 23+27+20+25+39 = 134

Volume 4 = (21-24) = 63+37+24+20 = 154

Volume 5 = (25-29) = 61+26+26+21+19 = 153

Volume 6 = (30-34) = 22+28+70+30+30 = 180

Volume 7 = (35-37) = 35+72+35 = 142

- Season 1 = 1045 pages

II. Season 2:

Volume 08 = (38-40) = 73+21+22=116

Volume 09 = (41-47) = 25+21+26+34+24+23+23=152

Volume 10 = (48-55) = 12+12+25+16+13+13+11+19 = 121

Volume 11 = (56-61) = 8+16+48+28+26+29 = 155

Volume 12 = (62-67) = 23+38+36+26+26+31 = 180

Volume 13 = (68-71) = 45+42+56+44 = 187

Volume 14 = (72-75) = 67+45+46+42 = 200

Volume 15 = (76-80) = 18+32+42+48+35 = 175

Volume 16 = (81-84) = 49+63+58+23 = 193

Volume 17 = (84-86) = [120]+[44+31] = 120

- Season 2 = 1599 pages

III. Season 3+?:

Volume 17 = (84-86) = [120+44+31] - [120] = 75

Volume 18 = (87-89) = 45+62+76 = 183

Volume 19 = (89-92) = 24+51+62+74 = 211

Volume 20 = (93-94) = 71+114 = 185

Volume 21 = (94-98) = 37+57+42+32+49 = 207

Volume 22 = (99-103) = 37+58+51+23+19 = 188

- Volumes 17.5-22 = 1049 pages

Volume 23 = (104-109) = 35+29+73+43+11+16 = 209

Volume 24 = (110-115) = 46+20+43+28+35+17 = 189

Volume 25 = (115?-122) = 28+22+24+27+30+26+21+22 = 200

Volume 26 = (123-129) = 29+17+13+[19+39]+33+24+29 = 204 pages

Volume 27 = (130-135) = 32+23+27+45+[27+19+18]+13 = 204 pages

- Volumes 23-27 = 1006 pages

Volume 28 = (136-142) = 35+36+45+27+19+32+13 = 207 pages

Volume 29 = (143-149) = 37+25+21+25+33+29+28 = 198 pages

Volume 30 = (150-154 = 36+37+41+37+36 = 187 pages

Volume 31 = (155-159) = 49+49+45+45+26 = 214 pages

Volume 32 = (160-164) = 28+24+43+40+43+??? = 178+??? pages

- Volumes 28-32 = 984 pages

Now of course the printed manga is far behind, and as of Volume 26 in June will only have 1854 pages released in print, but still... the still incomplete manga version of the Monster Association will have enough content for 36 episodes... at the very least.

#OPM #OPM anime #OPM manga #OPM webcomic #One Punch Man #One Punch Man anime #One Punch Man manga #One Punch Man webcomic #Saitama #Garou #Genos #ONE #Murata

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scumerage · 2 years

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The One Punch Man Manga is worse than... the Manga:

#I. Forget the...

Forget the source material. Forget the "elitists only want a 1:1 copy of the panels/ are nostalgia gatekeepers/are just haters/etc." Fine, the manga is a separate original story. The source material never existed.

That doesn't excuse the manga of 2020 and after being worse than the manga of 2019 and before.

What about the manga up through Garou vs Tanktop Master (Chapter 47: Technique) being 99% identical in story to the source material? Ok fine, forget that too.

So what is left?

#II. Manga Arcs:

One Punch Man Manga (2015-2019):

Chapters 48-59 = Metal Bat Arc

Chapters 60-71 = Super Fight Arc

Chapters 72-78 = Monsterization Arc

Chapter 79-84 = Cabin Arc

Chapter 85-92 = Monster Hunt Arc

Chapters 93-108 (pre-redraw) = Monster Middle Management

Chapters 109-115 (pre-redraw) = Monster Executives

Chapters 116-120 = Drive Knight Arc

One Punch Man Manga 2020-2022:

Chapters 98-115 (redraw) = Middle Management + Executives?

Chapters 121-126 = "S-Class are Insane" Arc

Chapters 127-139 = Psykic Titan Arc

Chapters 140-154 = Surface Battle Arc

Chapters 155-160 = Bad Boys Arc

Chapters 161-164+ = Saitama vs Garou Arc

#III. The Great:

The Super Fight Arc:

While understandably underwhelming to many as the first manga original arc, this was in fact the most massive lore and worldbuilding arc of the entire series. Even the later arcs showing the psychology and origins of monsters and heores, as well as the reality breaking struggle of God and Blast... can't really compare. The amount of characters, the building up of social clash between the strong and heroes, the world of martial artists, samurai, Hero Association bureaucracy, heroes, , and civilians, all facing the exististential crisis of a global monster invasion? No amount of continent slicing and eldritch dimension cracking can compare to that.

"No matter what happens, we will survive... the Strong.

The "Monsterization Arc" (best title that could fit it):

A story focused on the addictive power of monsterfication, the sacrifice of morality for power, and the difference between humans, monsters... and those heroes becoming more than human. A fascinating psycholgical and moral crisis that somehow managed to tie Suiryu, Gouketsu, Saitama, Garou, and even Sonic's ideogies all together into a single potent parable.

"Do you really know what it means... to become a monster?"

The Cabin Arc:

What's to be said about this dirty meatgrinder that hasn't been said? The Monster Association declaring war and announcing the day the world will end, Death Gatling and Glasses facing the horror of inevitabe inferiority, Garou fighting a dozen exponentially powerful opponents in a row while both at the weakest, and the strongest, he's ever been, his Nietzchean ideology of individualism vs collectivism, the last meeting between student and master, Genos fighting to his last limbs with no chance of winning short of suicide.... yet refusing to die, and King becoming the bravest character in the entire series?

"The symbol of strength... that is where I should be aiming for.... I will reach that goal too."

The Monster Hunt Arc:

More simple than the rest, but still a blast in its own right, it shows the clash between Garou's moral ideology vs real monsters sadism and bloodlust. But of course his mistaken quest to become a monster, while at the same time retaining his humanity and principles, drive him ever deeper into the arms of the worst monster imaginable: a secretly human one.

"The purer they are, the greater the inner struggle. Their internal contradictions expose the cracks in the heart."

The Monster Middle Management Arc:

Again, rather simple in story, but helps to show the heroes true colors. First the grand council of heroes deciding whose ego is more important than the fate of the world, followed by the weaker heroes trying to do best they can only to fall short. After which the heroes battle their nemesis, struggle, but in the end rise victorious. Even the leaders of the monsters are unable to defeat the queen of heroes, as well as one above all heroes... as a hobby.

"Like I said, go ahead... but I'm not expecting much."

The Monster Executive Arc:

Until the world's greatest heroes discover they are not gods but men, when they face the Monster Executives. The S-Class heroes are brutalized in the same way they so confidentally tore down the monster merely moments before. Especially with the claim that some dark deity exists that chose these demon disciples for this very purpose.

"An enemy that cannot be defeated by humans.... a monstrous existence, a symbol of fear... what would you do in that situation, Master?"

The Drive Knight Arc:

And last but certainly not least, Drive Knight himself. Possibly the most simple and short, yet surprising massive in consequence, arc in the series. Just a random cat monster slicing up heroes, a robot deciding how to skin it, then an info dump out of nowhere. But oh boi, what an infodump, how the heroes and monsters are not the only ones watching for the chance to shape the world in their own image? That mere mathematicians and AIs are calculating in the background whether or not to massacre the monsters, heroes or both all at once? With no sense of hate or courage, just cold logic? If that doesn't make someone question their own perception and judgement, what will?

"In order to improve the probability of victory, everything that can be exploited must be exploited... even these fallen heroes would should have prepared to that extent."

This is the peak the manga has yet to surpass, hopefully it does eventually, but that day has not yet come.

#IV. The Good:

Monster Middle Management + Monster Excutives Arc:

The two previous arcs to Drive Knight being combined and mixed in no purposeful order threw out the combined heroes short lived victories turning into a mass defeat, but at least most of the fights are still there. Child Emperor has a massive existential crisis, but at least Saitama is there to set him straight. Sweet Mask's hand is prevented from a massacre by the disciples, but he still desires to slake his bloodlust. The monster do eventually turn the tables and beat them down. Orochi sacrifices himself while Saitama takes a bath, stamping down God as an everpresent figure in the background (even without the moon shots). There is even a beautiful if ultimately pointless death of the mercenary captin Tongara as he recalls the neverending existence of evil in the world.

"In this world, there are no real heroes... that's not how the world works, I knew that damn well... I'm an idiot."

"S-Class are Insane" Arc:

A bit awkward with Child Emperor and the Blizzard group fighting seperately in tempo from the remaining S-Class, but they are still solid fights. Tornado hunting down Psykos sets up for the next arc, but of course the reason for the title is the origin of the S-Class, they always walked as dragons among men even before the world recognized them as such... all building up to the dragon slayer martial prodigy himself:

"For those who have obtained power beyond humans, this was not supposed to be their destiny. Today they are... not prepared to die."

All right, the praises for the manga are about to dry up pretty soon, but they'll never truly be gone, not while Saitama, Genos, and Garou still exist, plus the unasked party crashers of Blast and God.

#V. The Hype:

The Psychic Titan Arc:

Like with the Cabin Arc, what is there not said about this battle of the goddesses? Aside from the hospital heroes, and Garou losing his confidence, the rest is obvious. The Giant Demon Psychic Lady slices planet while other Psychic Witch Elf causes a hurricance, is crucificied, then saved by a Blue Dragon's roar of flame, and then crushes the beast with her bare hands. Followed a modern day fight jet dogfight and merely human warriors rising from the ground to strike down a demon out of the skies, so the Elf Witch can impale that Demon back to the pits of Hell from whence it came... but the gates of Hell can never be closed. Oh, and final villain and hero have a brief chat on how the story will end! One of the best planet threatening fights ever seen since Dragon Ball.

"In felt fear. At the same time, a mysterious power was flowing into me. In that instant, I was enlightened to my destiny."

The Surface Battle Arc:

Admittedly, this massive battlefield was probably the most chaotic of all the arcs so far, if that's a good thing, it's a amazing, if its bad, not so much. Bomb and Bang's epic backstory, as well as how Bang completely misunderstands Garou's worldview through his own bias was intriguing In any case, an all out savage brawl between the heroes and monsters breaks out, with energy blasts, martial arts, psychic energy, the way of the blade, fist, and nature itself all battling for dominance. Add in the Human Monster's return, a man's soul being dragged to hell, it's a veritable Dungeon and Dragons battle massacre with each side pulling aces out from under their chairs to clear the table for an all or nothing gamble of life and death.

"Should I do it now? No, this isn't time mentioned in the prophecy... I need to reserve my power for the very end."

Let's try for these last arcs, but will probably be the hardest ones to write, will be little better than summaries:

#VI. The Flashy:

The Bad Boys Arc:

It's is, well... about bad boys. Flashy bad boys, shiny bad boys, edgy bad boys, and punky bad boys. Turns out Flashy < Shiny < Edgy, but who knows, maybe Punky can get pissed off enough to come out on top! Whose this God guy? Kick him out of the bar. And keep him from smashinhg any helicopters on his way out. Oh, and Genos is an honory bad boy too, or deserves to be at least.

"It's almost like your head's screwed on straighter than when you were a human."

Saitama vs Garou:

And now, for the grand finale, the final fight the entire series has been building up too, that should be the greatest event, drama, spectacle, and philosophical moment of not just One Punch Man itself, but of manga and anime of the decade... Saitama vs Garou? It... is not that. It's cool to see them punching through mountains and stuff, even through the planet, but there's not really any martial arts choreography. Saitama clearly is just doing therapeutic trauma with no intention of treating it as even a potential fight like pre-redraw Orochi, just as Garou's civilian saving shows his lack of malicious intent as well. A gag to be sure, "what a tsundere" assumably? At least Blast and the X-Class heroes are coming from another dimension... it's probably not over, hopefully will end up as the best battle ever seen... since Dragon Ball Super.

"It's no use... I'm all out of ideas."

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@gofancyninjaworld Better than I expected, for one core reason: there were both "webcomic is greater" fans and "manga is greater" fans who enjoyed it, for taking the piss out of both sides, and many were self reflective "yeah, I guess we have become pretty ridiculous". The parody was never about the actual source material (all the manga panel labels were from Garou's point of view), but the people debating it. No matter how many potentially legitimate points either side may bring up, it becomes worthless if the messenger is no different than the asshole he claims to be against. Even I myself am certainly not innocent.

I suck at editing, was up all last night trying to finish this, probably redid every image 2-3 times, and it’s still a mess. Whatever, I’m tired, glad it’s finally over.

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I suck at editing, was up all last night trying to finish this, probably redid every image 2-3 times, and it's still a mess. Whatever, I'm tired, glad it's finally over.

#OPM #OPM manga #OPM webcomic #One Punch Man #One Punch Man manga #One Punch Man webcomic #ONE #Murata #manga #webcomic #Saitama #Garou #Orochi #Gyoro Gyoro #webcomic elitist #manga elitist #writing #redraws

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scumerage · 3 years

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@inigollorentemartija

Yes, absolutely, the story takes a steep uphill climb ever higher and higher after Chapter 84. "But why not add another chapter?" is the catchphrase for the entire Monster Association Arc pacing if there ever was one. As a primarily anime viewer, ending 24 episodes Garou vs Orochi would have greatly alleviated the rushed 12 episode pacing to Elder Centipede.

But have to disagree, the S-Class slideshow and Tornado lifting the base are not stops in any sense of the word. Both are battles with no conclusion, slap in the middle of the action. Genos evacuating the kid and S-Class/Tornado "killing" Orochi are the only clear onscreen conclusions, at least without further anime story rearranging (such as for Saitama vs Orochi).

And Season 3 announcements? Money > story. Quantity some people remember > quality no one remembers. Waiting over 2 more years would be a death sentence for advertising. The same committee who rushed out Season 2 aren't waiting for the end of the arc, you can count on that.

I’ve read some drama about season 3 of the OPM anime, so as someone who has not seen a minute of the anime nor has any intention of doing so, yet somehow knows at which point season 2 ends, I’d like to give my opinion.

Season 2 ended at the wrong time.

Not to say it was a bad spot to stop a phase of the story. Saitama punched the centipede ending an epic battle and Garou is being taken away by the MA, it works.

But two chapters more and you end with the hot pot, the cadres being hyped up and Garou getting back up in the park. Four chapters more and you end with Garou fighting Orochi and Saitama lifting the manhole. Five chapters more and you end with the battle in the surface and Gyoro-Gyoro having a strategy meeting with the cadres.

And then you have a very long and chaotic battle where there is no appropriate time to stop because you are always in the middle of something. The previous structure of the S-class fightin the easy opponents-Saitama punches Orochi-the cadres enter the fray is no more, those fights got shuffled. The next stop is the slideshow with the S-class getting their asses kicked, and that is still stopping in the middle of something, and then Tatsumaki lifting the hideout.

So season three will have the next few acceptabble finales happen in the first few chapters and then won’t find one until we reach a point that the tankobon have not yet reached.

I don’t expect anything happening in the front of season 3 anouncements for at least 3 more years.

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He hasn’t seen the series, so I assume he probably sees Saitama as simply a mockery of Superman, and a moral hypocrite by comparison. That’s my guess, as I can’t even ask him why he hates Saitama specifically, he was barely able to say that much. I mean, hey, I hate hentai! Doesn’t mean I can’t explain, if very uncomfortably, why I think its trash.

My Best Friend Hates and Despises One Punch Man.

Probably everyone among my family and friends know I love One Punch Man above all other series (except Tolkien’s Legendarium of course). Most non-fans smile and wave “Ah well, just a weird Japanese Cartoon”, while anime fans have naturally varied opinions “Meh, One Punch Man isn’t that good for x reasons” or “Eh, I guess it’s okay” to “Yeah, One Punch Man is pretty awesome!”

With the sole exception of my best friend.

I’ve probably only talked to him about the series around five times… in the past five years. The first time was right after I finished the webcomic, and was raving about Garou’s story arc. Which recieved the understable, negative response “Meh, One Punch Man isn’t that good for x reasons”. Disappointing, but understandable. But the other three times? Just a passing reference to One Punch Man “Oh, the crazy cool thing happened in the manga!” which recieved the weird, almost ignoring response, “Huh, ok, whatever”. I didn’t realize it at the time, but that is exactly what he was doing: ignoring any reference to One Punch Man.

Finally, this year, I decided to try and broach the subject directly. I was fully prepare for a broken down negative respone “One Punch Man is a horrible series for x, y, and z reason” which sure, I would argue with and disagree with, but ultimately it was his opinion and preference, not mine.

I was whole unprepared for his visceral, short response. **“Don’t ever talk to me about One Punch Man ever again.”**

In a last ditch effort, I asked him for one simple answer, why he hated One Punch Man. “Because I despise Saitama”. And that was that was the end of that. I was completely confused. Like myself, he is not a non-argumentative person. He and I would debate any and every topic, media included. Even series we both agreed were awful, we could go over and discuss every reason why it failed. But not for One Punch Man… it was too painful for him to even discuss it.

Then it dawned on me: Of course he despise Saitama, why wouldn’t he? Because his two of his favorite characters in fiction are Goku and Superman… which Saitama is a direct parody of.

Superman is the moral and physical ideal. He will always make the right choice and he will always succeed. Because he’s not “a hero”, but “the hero”… that is what makes him Superman.

Goku strives to be the physical and moral ideal. He loses, he makes mistakes, he can be selfish and morally wrong, but he keeps trying. He is the everyman hero rising to become the ideal hero.

But Saitama? He is the physical but not the moral ideal… but is sometimes presented as the moral ideal. Saitama can be lazy, selfish, rude, and uncaring… so how can he be presented as the moral ideal like Superman? His training exercises are not special, every other hero far surpasses his training, so how does he deserve his strength like Goku?

Worst of all… he cannot be punished morally or physically. Any insult can be ignored, countered back, or just backhanded physically. And any physical punishment, Suiryu style? Doesn’t matter whether Saitama is invincible or not, he can’t suffer physically. Either he wins, proving him right by might makes right… or he loses, and enjoys his struggle, furthering justifying his obsession with a good fight. Morally speaking, Saitama can’t lose. He’s an invincible asshole.

But do I agree with those criticisms? Yes and no. Yes, Saitama can be an insufferable asshole, and yes, he can come off as hypocritical for citing the heroic ideal “Because I’m a hero” while being a a very flawed hero himself. Why? Because even if Saitama is not the heroic ideal, which King called him out on… Saitama believes in the heroic ideal in principle. “I may not be the ideal… but that doesn’t mean the ideal isn’t worth honoring.” Which is why Saitama respect moral ideals like Mumen Rider, Glasses, and Child Emperor.

Thoughts?

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