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[They/He] Sup, I’m Sal (Salenna on Ao3)#1 ContraHero Enjoyer. AroAce Fox. Writer and Drawer.Professional Silly Goofy who’ll sometimes post semi-eloquent metas and theories.STP took over this blog, but I also post about Disco Elysium, Night in the Woods, and The Stanley Parable on occasion.main: @salertiacallidus
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Can you elaborate on stubborn being a kitty?
There’s not much to it, his head shape just looks like a cat face and I think that’s funny
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Man. The character poll got me looking at my designs with new eyes, and I feel like rambling about it, so Imma just do it.
(pretty long artist ramble under the cut)
The thing about me is that a lot of the choices I make when I’m designing something are mostly intuitive/subconscious; just me following a Vibe and seeing what works for the feeling I want to pass on. Not to say I design stuff without thought, I’m just not aware of those thoughts until the design’s done lol
All this to say the character poll got me analyzing my own designs and realizing what my intuitive brain was going for when doing these aissmdmfjdm
this was the first ever concept I drew for these guys, and you can already see some of the building blocks for my final designs here.
The thing that I focus most on, at first, is the overall silhouette and posing. Which is why I wasn’t worried about specific details or polishing up anything in this drawing, I just wanted to get a feel of these characters and see what kinds of shape worked best for them.
Going through each design and my process for them–
Cold was both the easiest and most difficult one for me. While I had a pretty strong idea for his overall shapes from my first drawing and knew what details were important (fluffy collar and head shaped like a water drop), specific details eluded me. I wasn’t sure what to do with its legs or cloak. Eventually tho, I decided I wanted them to be almost completely covered in feathers, leading to their white plumage with dark hands, feet, and face. Something simple, but effective, and I was happy enough with it. I was torn between a diamond or the X for its cloak’s clasp, but eventually decided the X was a more striking detail, and connected her to Spectre more.
Hero is another one that came very easily to me, but whose specific details I struggled with some. I gave him pure white eyes at first, but it limited his expressions, so I ended up giving him those black with white pupils eyes while doodling around. I figured out the helmet shape almost instantly while doing my second ever drawing of him, going for that beak-shaped helm with fiery feathers; tho the rest of his clothes I was really unsure about. Whether to give him a full set or not, if I give him a cape, or metal cladding, etc. The solution came by trial and error, simply giving him different pieces and seeing what fit best, and I eventually arrived on the set he has now!! The secondary clothes just kinda appeared as I doodled him in more casual scenes, and the hair came because I was looking at all the puffy-haired Hero designs and suddenly felt like mine was too bald lol. Overall, I’m really happy with my fluffy and smol son <3 (oh, and yeah, I always pictured him as short in my mind and never thought much about it isjsjdndjndjc)
While it too me a bit to get a doodle of Smitten out, I also figured him out almost instantly. The main thing I wanted for him was to look bright, approachable, and expressive. He’s the only one who has normal-ish eyes because of this, and the side cape was something I gave him to differentiate him from Hero and add to his dramatic flair.
Oppy was definitely the one I struggled with the most, as I had too many ideas in my head for him that all clashed with each other. He didn’t have a set design in my head for a while because of that, which you can see in my early doodles of him where I very clearly didn’t know what to do with his suit lol. His head shape was the first thing I figured out for sure, with those antennae hair strands being present ever since the first doodle I did of him, and for his suit, I just put Reigan Mob Psycho and Larry Pokemon Scarlet in a blender and that car salesman looking ass was the result (centrist politician was another vibe I was going for). I’ve been told he looks deceivingly handsome, tho personally, I just think his face is very punchable.
Broken was prolly the easiest one for me, and one I was satisfied with the first true try (I consider those first sketches up there more of a ‘test run’). I wanted them to look the most similar to Quiet (even more so than Hero), but, well, broken. A reflection of the state Quiet was left in by the Princess in the Tower lead-up. The horn tufts have been ripped off, there are a lot of slashes and cuts across its body, their feathers look unkept and like they have been torn off, and lots of its scales are missing. The sack covering its body is their measly attempt at covering their injuries, and I tried to make all the bandages look old and makeshift.
While the funny corvid face in my first attempt at drawing Contra is very neat, it just wasn’t very fun to draw or allowed them to have many expressions, so I changed it to the face you know now. The curly hair was mostly just me wanting my favorite blorbo to have my favorite kinda hair to draw, and it just so happened that it also fitted with them lol. Them being the only one out of my voices that wear pants instead of some upper body wear is something I always had in mind for them, and the suspenders were more of a little ‘extra’ thing I added to give them more of a clown look alongside with their hat. Something I find funny about my design for Contrarian is that, while it didn’t change much since my first full drawing of them, you can tell something about that first drawing seems off. A little scruffed and odd-looking, and that was mainly because I simply wasn’t used to drawing these humanoid bird things and you can really see me getting the hang of it with how I drew Contrarian, specifically.
(even the colors saturation is something I slowly figure it out by trial and error)
Paranoid was the next one I did, and not to brag but, I think I nailed it that second try aidjkxmddkfkkfc only thing I knew about her design was that I wanted her to have large eyes and a bold spot on her head, and then everything else I just kinda drew around that. And honestly? Really happy with the result!! The bald spot ended up looking a lot like part of her brain was straight-up exposed, so I just rolled with that, and she probably has one of the most fun faces to draw. Her silhouette is also very distinct, with the cloak + fluffy head and horn tufts kinda looking like pigtails giving her a very fun shape. I just love how she turned out, not my personal favorite design, but definitely the one I’m most proud of. She looks like a weird bug and I love that.
While I had very strong images for Cheated’s, Hunted’s, Skeptic’s and Stubborn’s design, it’d still be a while before I actually sat down to figure out their details. But once I did, they all came quite easily.
For Hunted, I just wanted it to look like a Creature. I had the idea of having leaves stuck to its feathers as a sorta camouflage thing, but that’d be to much of a hassle to constantly draw, so I scrapped that and just kept the camouflage marks on its cheeks. I wanted its body shape to look slender and nimble; slightly malnourished. The head shape was mainly me wanting its beak to look the most distinct from the other’s beaked voices, more of a ‘wild’ look, and the cat-like tufts was also added for that more feral look.
For Skeptic, I went back and forth on some details, but the hat, big gloves, and scarf were the things that stuck to the end. Something I find really funny with him is that he wears no clothes besides those accessories and its just the way his feathers are drawn that gives the impression of a suit, or some kinda coat under that scarf lol. His color pallette is the one I find the nicest. It’s mainly monochrome, but I think it works well for him.
Only thing I wanted for Stubborn is Big Soft Kitty. With scars. That was about it tbh, I just wanted him to look big, stronk, and huggable, he’s just a big kitty to me.
Cheated I also knew from the start what I wanted to do with him, as you can see by how similar the first concept and final designs look. Main thing I wanted for her was this sorta ‘uneven’ look, with her clothes seeming like they used to be symmetrical before being sliced and torn up. The slices on an ear tuft and a brow is something that just sorta appeared as I doodled him.
So… yeah! This is about it. It took me a while to reach to this final result, but I’m really glad with how all my designs turned out and seeing that others likes them too makes me incredibly happy!! :D
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I have digitized the Birds
(I don't even if they're crows anymore so they probably have creative liberty over it-)
Part 1
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Hello back on my Damsel brainrot again, in some tupperbox RPs she ended up befriending Beast so I was wondering if you wouldn't mind drawing them?
Damsel putting a flower crown (made from the poppies in Thorn's cabin) on Beast
(also I hope you have a good day!)
always delighted to draw my girl Damsel. hope you’ll like it 🥀
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Princess: We all have our demons.
LQ, forcibly grabbing Narrator: This one's mine!
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I DID ANOTHER VOICES THING. Sorta meta-ish, looking at game stats!
Specifically, I spent a while going through and figuring out which other voices each voice can get in their Chapter IIIs. I didn't count the Moment of Clarity, though I did count the Razor routes; in the Razor's case, I went with the idea that this counts as Cheated being able to get Hunted, Contrarian, Broken, Paranoid, and Stubborn, but doesn't count towards any of those other voices being able to get each other because, well, those aren't their chapters are they?
Then I figured out which voices have what I'm calling a "mutual relationship" or "mutual interplay" -- ie, if you can get X in one of Y's Chapter IIIs, can you get Y in one of X's Chapter IIIs too?
And then I broke it down a little further. According to the sequence on the Stranger's stairs, each voice (other than Hero, who for obvious reasons isn't a part of this post at all) has a counterpart; they're sort of tied together via their respective Chapter IIs. So... which counterparts have a mutual relationship? Which don't? Which non-counterparts have that kind of mutual interplay?
I think the results are pretty interesting, and I'm putting them under the cut here.
Not Mutual, Not Counterparts:
Broken & Paranoid
Cheated & Broken
Cheated & Paranoid
Cheated & Stubborn
Cold & Cheated
Hunted & Broken
Hunted & Contrarian
Hunted & Skeptic
Opportunist & Cheated
Opportunist & Stubborn
Skeptic & Cold
Smitten & Cold
Stubborn & Skeptic
Stubborn & Contrarian
Not Mutual, Counterparts:
Cheated & Contrarian*
Hunted & Opportunist
Skeptic & Smitten
Mutual, Not Counterparts:
Cheated & Hunted*
Hunted & Stubborn
Opportunist & Paranoid
Mutual, Counterparts:
Broken & Stubborn
Cold & Paranoid
SPECIAL NOTES:
Cheated & Contrarian not being mutual is, IMO, a special case that doesn't quite count the same as the other two in that category... Not just because Stranger doesn't have any Chapter IIIs, but also because I could make a strong argument that if Stranger did somehow get a Chapter III the one voice it makes the absolute most sense to get in it would be Cheated. (Because we were "cheated out of" being able to actually make a choice due to the "game" "bugging out.") It doesn't actually count as them having mutual interplay, of course, but I think there's plenty of reason to count them as at least a bit of a special case.
Cheated & Hunted being mutual might just be a bug, unfortunately!
Hunted can get Stubborn in both Den and Wild; they are the only mutual (though non-counterpart) pair where it's possible to get a voice in both of the other voice's Chapter IIIs.
Hunted & Stubborn is, in fact, an absolutely wild case because they are one of only 2-3 mutual non-counterparts and also have TWICE AS MANY shared chapters as literally any other voice pair! Whatever these two have going on is special for sure.
Opportunist can get Cheated in both Thorn and Wild; they are the only non-mutual (and non-counterpart) pair where it's possible to get a voice in both of the other voice's Chapter IIIs, interestingly enough!
Paranoid is the only voice who has mutual relationships with both the voices that show up in their (main) Chapter III(s). If you show up to help Paranoid, Paranoid is going to show up to help you.
Skeptic and Smitten are the only counterparts where neither of them can get the other in their respective Chapter IIIs! I bet this is going to change for at least one of them in The Pristine Cut...
(Yes, that's only 22 voice combinations when I said it's possible to get 25. That's because the Razor route is weird! Strictly speaking, it's also possible to get Contrarian & Broken, Contrarian & Paranoid, and Hunted & Paranoid through that route and nowhere else, which makes up the other 3 pairs! But they don't count for my calculations here; I don't even think it makes sense to add them to the "Not Mutual, Not Counterparts" list.)
So out of the counterparts presented on the Stranger's stairs, two of them are mutual and three of them are not, with one of the ones that isn't mutual being a bit of a special case.
And out of the non-counterparts, 14 of them aren't mutual, while 3 of them are, buuut one of those that are might just be a bug and so it's probably more like 15 and 2.
Summary: It's just as likely for the voices counterparts to mutually get each other in one of their Chapter IIIs or... not. However, it's really rare for two voices to have that kind of mutual interplay when they aren't counterparts! I find it interesting that two of the voices who aren't mutual with their counterpart -- Hunted and Opportunist -- find that mutual relationship with a non-counterpart instead -- Hunted with Stubborn, and Opportunist with Paranoid.
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Since I’m now (hopefully) done with all my designs, I can finally do this thing–
For reference, here’s the completed line-up.
(and also: my Narry/Echo designs)
#self reblog#this thing is making me look at my own designs with a more analytical lens lol#prepare yourself for a designs ramble. I already have a bit of it written out in my drafts
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i like skeptic :>
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Finished commission for @wysteriaisapenguin. Thank you for commissioning me!
Extras down below (textured + without background):
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not really in a mood to get into new media, tbh, but if there’s subtitled versions of it, I might (someday. don’t count on it /lh)
Since I’m now (hopefully) done with all my designs, I can finally do this thing–
For reference, here’s the completed line-up.
(and also: my Narry/Echo designs)
#I really struggle with audio-only media lol#even music I can only properly enjoy it if I have the lyrics to read along to
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I didn’t even do it on purpose (< doesn’t listen to TMA), but I’m glad you like him anyway XD
Since I’m now (hopefully) done with all my designs, I can finally do this thing–
For reference, here’s the completed line-up.
(and also: my Narry/Echo designs)
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Some Long Quiets!
1st pic was based on a post I saw anddd the design for the other drawings are based on venananix 's design :3
Ft. Tower being silly and human TLQ?! tried making them androgynous idk if it worked
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Not me reading through the tags in this post with the biggest shit-eating grin ever akskdickdmdjd
Since I’m now (hopefully) done with all my designs, I can finally do this thing–
For reference, here’s the completed line-up.
(and also: my Narry/Echo designs)
#it’s so interesting seeing the stats changing here#not surprised by the leads so far. but the others are so interesting to me#and fun fact: I voted Paranoid#sorry Contra. you’re still my dearest blorbo. but I’m honestly more proud of what I did with Paranoid’s design aimdkkdmdmmd#something about her bug face makes me really happy
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Slay the Princess
another indie gem, that I absolutely gobbled up. This is somewhat of a quicker painting, I also have like 3 others started and a shittton of schoolwork
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Since I’m now (hopefully) done with all my designs, I can finally do this thing–
For reference, here’s the completed line-up.
(and also: my Narry/Echo designs)
#yeah. I stole this from Wysteria and re-ma LMAO#doing this instead of keeping working on another Displaced AU part cuz my brain is fuckin’ dead but I need some interaction serotonin#so character poll time!!!#stp-posting#stp voices#polls#sal’s nonsense
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