I have recently been getting back into TMNT lately and whilst I havenāt caught up with all of the iterations yet, one consistency that I have noticed that keeps fucking me up is that every storyline that depicts the future for the brothers - Donnie always dies.
The Last Ronin comics are a given, considering itās focused on Mikeyās grief with the death of his whole family - not just Donnie. But this consistency also exists in both RotTMNT and the 2003 iteration.
RotTMNTās film depicts only Leo and Mikey as the only surviving members of the original family unit - not long before they both pass as well.
Whilst I am not familiar with the 2003 series (plus I donāt want to spoil myself too much), I understand that while Donnie didnāt died in āSame as it Never Wasā - the people around still grieve his absence. Him being sent to the future directly caused not only the events of that episode to take place, but the erasure of a future Donnie to begin with; thus leading his brother to believe he died (again, thatās what I am pretty sure is going on).
The only exception to this rule was the 2012 series, and even that is loosely stated. Donnie is the only one to die due to the mutagen bomb. The only reason he was able to survive was due to his mind being connected to Metalhead and even then, he is still technically dead. The Donnie that we watched throughout the series and Donbot are not the same people. Donbot is just Metalhead with a dead teenagerās consciousness uploaded into it.
His survival was due to a lucky alignment of circumstances and despite it, he doesnāt even get to live.
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I expanded a bit on the separated au with Shinigami. Hereās extra if you care. Iād love to have your help in expanding this moreā¦if you want to help. No pressure
But hereās basic stuff from my notes app
All turtles are 16 y/o. Leo, and Mikey are raised by Splinter. Raph is raised by Caseyās family. Donnie is raised by Shredder, than later ākidnappedā and raised by Shinigami.Ā
While exploring the sewers together, Raph and Donatello were swept up by a flood or something and were separated. Raph is found by Caseyās family after they thought it was hurt and lost child. Donnie is found by Shredder.
Shredder over works Donnie, with both his tech stuff as well as training. Heās also juts an asshole. Shinigami becomes Karaiās friend and sees how Shredder is treating Donnie and sneaks him home with her. Karai is distraught and betrayed that her friend took her brother. But Donnie left willingly and is doing great with Shinigamiās family. Heās even taught Magic by them.
After learning about the (idk) Donnie and Shinigami return to NYC where they meet Splinter, Leo, Mikey, April, Casey and Raph (who has already been told what happened and all that).Ā
Donnie begins staying with Splinter and everyone though he does visit Shinigami (ās family) quite often or at least he video calls.Ā
He helps them fight Shredder, but tends to struggle when fighting karai (as he still typically sees her as his sister, though estrange).Ā
B-days and zodiac: (I chose random dates. Idk remember when their actual b-day is)
Leo - February 10th - Aquarius
Raph - April 2nd - Aries
Donnie - August 13th - LeoĀ
Mikey - October 11th - Libra
Turtle Species:
Leo - Red-Bellied Cooter
Raph - Red-Eared Slider
Donnie - Red-Eared Slider
Mikey - Golden Thread Turtle
Heights:
Leo - 5ā4
Raph - 5ā4
Donnie - 5ā7
Mikey - 5ā2
āDonnie begins staying with Splinterā How dare you split up the family. They raised him like their own and Shini made him her familiar and this is the thanks they get? His brothers can be the ones to do videos calls, you monster. /playful /joking
I imagine Shini stays in New York when he does. So she basically just enters the series earlier and makes herself a part of the family. Then Karai sees both of them and is like, āLeo, we cannot be friends until Shini gives him backā and Leoās just āThis is between you two, mākay, I will do a lot for you but I have no control over that one.ā
I love imagining that Donnie can do some of the stuff Shini can do (but she has the natural talent, obvi) like appearing out of nowhere and acting like heās been standing in the room the whole time (the brothers canāt decide if he transports, is invisible, or something else entirely) and it always catches his brothers off guard.
How on earth did Splinter manage to adopt three different turtle species of the exact same age. Did he do that on purpose? Interrogate the pet store about all their ages to pick-and-choose possible pets? I mean, I know this is an unnecessary line of thought but Iām thinking it anyway.
Casey and Shini tolerate each other. The āmy little brother evidently has an extended family that we had no idea about and Iām okay with that as long as the other family remembers that he was mine firstā vibes are shared between them and it leads to rooftop conversations and bonding. Shini still wonāt teach him magic, tho.
Donnie would die for that cat.
Headcanon lore: He actually almost does.
Other headcanon: Raph has the hardest time getting Donnie to like him until he gets cat toys. She had a hard time adapting to new surroundings and she relaxes for the first time in weeks.
Donnie instantly has a favorite brother.
Donnie: This is my only friend. I love her more than life itself.
so yāknow those role swap aus? Where likeā¦Mikeyās the serious leader, Raphās the tech guy, etc etc.
what would it be like if we added April and Casey?
likeā¦swap Donnie and Casey? Or something like that? Idk bro. Itās a random idea I had lol
Role swap AU: An AU where characters swap their roles for a period of time with the subsequent story exploring how plot events alter, diverge, or stay the same because of this swap.
Soā¦
Iāve never been one for role swap auās tbh. I think there was only one that ever caught my attention, but the characters were so insanely on point that I could envision the show in my head. In all the body swaps that Iāve read, itās Splinter being like āyaāll could benefit from being in someone elseās shoes. Hereās what we gonna doā
I suppose Casey is more muscle, but April seems to tilt between brains/muscle as it pleases her. She absolutely wants to be seen as a warrior, but she works with Donnie in his lab during research and making connections and whatnot.
āAdded April and Caseyā implies that the role swap includes everyone, so just swapping Donnie&Casey feels shortsighted. (I donāt mean that to be offensive in any way. Iām thinking outloud.) We could give Caseyās role to Donnie, but with the wide group of people, I feel like Donnieās role should go elsewhere. If that makes sense?
Yk what Aprilās taking Leoās role, Iāve decided. Not because āhaha sheād probably be bad at itā but because I think sheād find a potential to be a leader when given the chance and that would be neat.
Mikey can take Aprilās place bc it would give him the chance to be more involved in things. āYou never question April when she says she has a feeling about stuff! āYou always let April help out in the lab!ā āYou let April check out leads solo!ā He wouldnāt care that sheās a human or that she has psychic powers. She got to when it came to helping the team so thatās what he gets to do.
Raph can take Mikeyās role because he deserves to know what itās like for his main role on the team to be bait. He canāt always fight mutants head on because he has to keep them busy so his brothers can take the baddy down. He canāt protect his brothers because heās meant to headed in another direction. That would drive him nuts. (Iād think itād be cute if he demanded to know how Mikey could stand it and Mikeyās all chill like āI just trust that my big bros have it covered like they always doā and then heās utterly humbled.) Heād also be put in the position of having to be the āface manā (of sorts) and make friends with optional allies. Stop being grumbly and glaring for five minutes to hold a conversation. Itāll be his ultimate struggle.
Casey can take Raphās role because itās basically his role except heās not able to play the loner game anymore. The fam always kind of lets Casey do his own vigilante thing during the series, but now thatās not allowed. And Raph makes it very clear on day one. His job is to be by their side when something big is going down. And if being the leaderās second is the way to accomplish that then he has to deal. He can complain, he can whine, he can make the leaderās life impossible- but he has to be there when they need him. PERIODT.
Donnie can take Caseyās role because he deserves to not have to be a big part of the game for five minutes. Thereās no monumental role, no impossible task, the fate of everything is no longer on his shoulders- he can just, fight. And when not on the field, he can do as he pleases. Heās not expect in the lab, in the dojo, in any kind of strategy planning- he can pick one or he can hang out. He can snack, he can videogames/shows, he can read comics, he can run away the surface- he has essentially free range when heās not actively on a mission. (The only downside is that he actually does like having people rely on him and look to him for answers. He likes keeping his hands busy with purpose. And punching baddies 24/7 gets kinda old.)
Leo can take Donnieās place. Heād be the most capable of taking on the role of genius since there have been scenes where he pays attention to his brother because the mission depends on it. He admits to helping out in the lab on occasion, or heās seen with Donnie discussing blueprints, and heās probably the most likely to be able to actually listen to Donnieās written instructions or notes and not blow up the lab because he got frustrated or decided to wing it. (Plus, Leo should see the kind of stuff Donnie has to deal with on a daily basis.)
But anyway. Thatās just my thoughts on the matter.
Well I didnāt notice this but since Iāve been given permission
I think 2012Bishop was a fun take and I wish we could have gotten more of him because he was really interesting and cool and a sweet heart who is nothing but helpful and constantly has the turtles backs even when they break into and attempt to steal from a military area that they are absolutely not supposed to be at or stealing from.
Iāve loved him since he showed up and stalked the boys from his sleek vehicle before leaving an alleyway image as an introduction knowing FULL WELL that he looked like one of their biggest enemies ācause heās a theater kid who rides alligators away from the massive explosions that he causes because ships are for losers
Heās nothing like 2003 but thatās what makes him perfect
Hehe. I have unpopular opinions that I keep in a safe underground in a haunted forest because most of the 2012TMNT community would murder me without hesitation and bury my body where no one would find it for simply contemplating them. I feel like a rebel
this is a dumb au I really wanna make for the soul reason that I love Shinigami
so basicallyā¦
separated au.
Leo and Mikey are raised by Splinter. Raph is raised by The Purple Dragons. And Donnie was originally raised by Shredder and is later raised along with Shinigami. Cause I love them both and thereās not enough Shinigami out there.
Itās just a dumb lil au I have that I need to expand on.
Plz don't feel like you gotta respond :)
I hope youāll forgive me because Iām about to overthink this way more than absolutely necessary because thatās who I am.
Shini is great. She deserved more screen time.
Wait Iām a fanfic writer why haven't I fixed that-
āDonnie was originally raised by Shredder and is later raised along with Shinigami-ā
DID SHINIāS FAMILY- LIKE- KIDNAP HIM???
DID THEY LIBERATE THE ABUSED TURTLE!?
IS SHINIāS FAMILY ACTUALLY AWESOME?!
NO, wait, even better- Shini came into Karaiās life long enough to kidnap her brother. Sheās a sneaky child, but we donāt have any proof that sheās evil. She just vibes. It fits her profile, Iāve decided.
An eight-year-old Shini just comes home one day holding hands with an anxious green child with a shell like, āI HAVE A BROTHER NOWā and her parents go with it because theyāre used to her doing as she pleases and Donnie (maybe a year or two younger) goes with it because Shini and her parents were nicer than the Sakis ever were.
*OKAY SO THE WIKI SAYS THAT SHINI LEARNS MAGIC FROM HER FAM WHICH COULD EXPLAIN HOW SHE MANAGED TO KIDNAP HIM SO YOUNG- (Is it kidnapping if he goes willingly?)
AND DONNIE IS NOW FAM TOO
MAGIC WITCHCRAFT DONNIE ANYONE???
If anyone asks, Donnie is her Kappa familiar. Her family is weird and the Japanese are superstitious so absolutely no one questions it.
(He still tries to stay out of sight.)
How does he get back to New York tho? š¤
I canāt imagine Raph being raised by the Purple Dragons. Those dude can barely crime- raise a kid? Nah. Naaaaah.
I can imagine some crazy things but THIS?
Okay, okay. Iāll give it a try.
-I tried and it didnāt work. I failed you. The cringe is real.
Purple Dragons of another series, maybe, but 2012? Nah. Nah.
Now, to clarify. Iām NOT saying itās a bad idea. Iām NOT saying I dislike the idea. And Iām NOT saying you shouldnāt play with this idea to your heartās content. Totally do it. Absolutely go for it!!!
The prospect amuses me. Iām just not built for that level of imagining. As it is your AU, I will leave that up to you. *salutes*
Iām sharing this with you cause none of my friends like Tmnt and I wanna share this.
Two of my dumbest headcanons.
Both Raph and Donatello are HUGE musical theatre fans. Raphās favorite is Heathers, Little Shop of Horrors or Sweeney Todd. Donatelloās favorite is Hadestown, Be More Chill or Nerdy Prudes Must Die.
I like to imagine Raph is huge on self-care and has a skin care routine thatās likeā¦20 steps (maybe not that but itās a lot lol) and when his brothers are having a hard time (ex. Donnie stays in his lab too much, and doesnāt take care of himself, Leo is feeling down maybe about Splinter etc etc) he forces them to do a self-care day with him.
idk I think these are silly lol
Itās so ironic that youāre commenting about having to share your stuff elsewhere because the people around you donāt get it because MAN I have had a night. Letās just say that being the only person you know with an interest in something can be difficult.
I love dumb headcanons <3
My favorite part is how difficult they are for me because I am the poster board of every meme of everything needing to make sense:
If anything feels SLIGHTLY off in my headcanons, my brain makes stalling noises. BUT THESE ARENāT MINE.
So take that brain.
I enjoy a few musicals, but I havenāt heard of half of the ones that you listed, so I wouldnāt know for sure if it would be up their alley or not. Itās amusing to imagine them sitting in Donnieās lab, trading musical preferences to see which ones match up. Their brothers will never heard the end of it when they do. š¤£
NAH WAIT. I canāt get the image out of my head of them tied up as Raph helps them ārelax.ā One of the few ways that he knows to say āI love you you need to take care of yourselfā is by sharing what he enjoys, even if they donāt care. He will make them care.
The Finger: Iām going to kill one of you, and Iām going to let you guys decide who thatās gonna beā¦
Mikey: Youāre not going to make us pick-
Donnie: You can kill me. Just let him go.
Mikey: And if you kill him, youāre going to have to kill me too.
Donnie: *frazzled* Well, no- cau- no, if heās willing to die; Iām willing to live. I just thought Iād step- *looks at him* What are you doing?
Mikey: We wonāt let him get away with this!
Donnie: Heās going to get away with itā¦ Double now.
Mikey: Well, if youāre going to live, I want to live too
Donnie: *more confused about the semantics to be concerned with the danger* You canāt go back on what you just said. If youāre willing to die, who cares what happens to me? Youāll be dead.
Mikey: But what if thereās, like, an afterlife we go to together?
Donnie: We are so not getting into this right nowā¦
Am I really going to be the first author to write an A03 2012&Rise crossover where Leo&Donnie get thrown into another universe and find everything different and weird and kinda depressing and have to rely heavily on each other for some normalcy while dealing with the dysfunctional family theyāve found themselves stuck with until they can get found/go home?
Huh?
No, I meant 2012Leo&Donnie in the Rise āverse, obvi.
Heyo! I'm the person that wrote that one-shot about your's and ellestrade's au! I'm not sure if you read the comments I made on your comments, but in case you didnt I wanted to come into the ask box and just say thank you for leaving such a playful comment! I'm glad we got to bounce ideas off each other and that you had fun with the fic!
I also wanted to ask: Would you be okay if I post this on my AO3? Iām also asking ellestrade and I would link the credits to you guysā posts and accounts (if thatās okay with you). I tend to loose fics if I leave them on Tumblr and I like to keep proper organization of all of them in ao3. But only if youāre comfortable with it. I know fan ideas and boundaries can be hazy area sometimes.
But yeah! Thanks again for the fun dude! (also feel free to answer private or dm if you don't want your answer to be out in public. I don't mind it being out there, but I want to make sure your comfortable as well!)
GASP. I know you!
I did read it, but I am about as good at answering Reblogs or responding to Mentions as I am with Asks. My favorite part about myself is that I either have very little to say or I absolutely canāt shut up. You received a Neko who can not shut up. Good for you š¤£
(Kinda why I donāt answer Asks immediately when I get them. Sometimes I WANT to rant but donāt have the brainspace/time. I refuse to answer an Ask in two sentences. If I ever do that, I promise you that Iām exhausted beyond belief or itās not me.)
ANYWHO
As long is credit is given where credit is due, feel free!
You wrote it. You absolutely reserve the right to share. I can see where youāre coming from. Very wise course of action. If I didnāt write so little on here that tags organize them well enough, Iād probably do the same thing. Honestly, I think I do have a story or two on both platforms. I tend to bounce stuff around š¤
List 5 things that make you happy, then ask this question to the last 10 people who liked/reblogged stuff from you
i love ask games !!! >.> these arenāt in order or anything but yea
i didnāt really know if i could list actual things or people so iām doing both šŖšŖšÆ (sorry)
people: my mom, my siblings, my boyfriend, my friends, and my cousin š š
things: drawing (except when i SUCK ASS), music, going out, sunsets/sunrise (theyāre basically the same thing iām squishing them together LOL), and my little interests š¶šš§š¤«
now itās time to pass it on š¤ @goopyskele @cherryscvre @gothmomsforever @leeyacy @that-one-enby-ranger @coquettejohnny @terminally-outsiders-obsessed @rileyh20 andd ummm widewy thatās it
One of the Many Weekly Conversations between my Writing/Research Selves
Honestly, though. Imagining the two of them having a conversation like this while Donnie is obliviously his lab working on helping an injured Mikey surrounded by blueprints of things to keep them alive and safe is hilarious to me š¤£
Maybe Iām just tired, but I have to air this out before I take out this frustration on real world problems and people who donāt deserve it.
Maybe Iāll regret it. I dunno. Just-
Okay. Look. I get it. I get it! I get that a wholesome Lou being an endlessly supportive and devoted father is some of the the best, most fluffiest writing ever and I canāt help but bookmark that kind of material every time because MAN itās a fluffy take on his character and I FEAST on it- BUT! BUT!
That. Does NOT. Make. IT CANON.
For those in the back-
THAT. DOES NOT. MAKE. IT CANON.
Random AU? Absolutely. Creative iteration? You go for it!
Ten years in the future type AU where you acknowledge that heās made mistakes but heās trying? Full support!
I swear to you now, I eat that kinda character development up.
But the second- THE SECOND- that you act like heād make a better father to the 2012 kids than their own dad? During canon series events or even just a few months after the movie? Acting as if he has never been neglectful and has zero faults while entirely making him the opposite of canon because āthe 2012 need a better dad who lets them be brothers instead of soldiersā like WHAT?
I promise. I am burning that book. (Mentally, obvs)
You wanna fix it? Tell us you have an AU Lou who would better take care of them. That youāve created a Splinter based on your favorite parts from the Rise Splinter that they deserve. Even go as far as claim that the brothers will immediately realize how much less ignored or belittled they feel under the AU Louās care.
But DO NOT act like youāre writing a canon character.
Watch the shows. Both of them.
And stop pretending that Lou is everything that Yoshi should be.