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Confusion in determining Chinese Dialect/Pronunciation of Character’s Name

When I googled "why native english writers often mistakenly mixed chinese dialect/pronunciation in naming characters?" The results of the search instead hilariously switched the subject.

Actually, I was curious about the further discussion regarding the similar topic from this video from Accented Cinema at minute 8:43

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For example, having a character named “Fai” in a fanfic from TGCF fandom. FYI, TGCF is a danmei novel originally written in Mandarin by MXTX.

I don't know where the fanfic author got the name "Fai" for their OC, the info I got from googling is this:

According to google, “Fai” is a Chinese boys name meaning 'growth' or 'beginning'.

Then I got like two hanzi which are pronounced as “Fai”, 「非」 and 「辉」.

I always use wiktionary.org to check how every hanzi and kanji are pronounced in various dialects (I suggest that we as the writers to use that/or other better alternative in the future), and here’s the information regarding “Fai”:

In Mandarin, this 「非」 should have been pronounced as “ Fēi ”.

As a note, 「輝」 is a traditional form of 「辉」, and in Mandarin, this 「辉」 should have been pronounced as “Huī”. The writer accidentally mixed the Cantonese pronunciation into a fandom which its character names are mainly pronounced in Mandarin.

Another case is the name "Kuo" (still in TGCF settings):

The top result from Google said that “Kuo” is the transliteration of several different Chinese surnames, its meaning varies depending on how it is spelled in Chinese, and which dialect it is pronounced in.

in Mandarin, this 「郭」 should have been more accurately pronounced as “Guō”.

Actually it's nothing serious for me (other than just me being nitpicky), and if what the writers mean is to show the diversity of their characters in ethnicity/origin (will be relevant to their story), then that's fine.

Example:

Fei Yi was born in Beijing, but lived in Hong Kong long enough for him to know Leung Siufan and form a friendship that continues till these days.

But if that’s not the case, I think we’ll better pay more attention to this in the future.

Remember that Chinese language is not just “chang ching chong” noises, like my country, they also have many ethnicities and dialects. They have more diversity than what mainstream popular culture generally portrays.

I realize that most native English are likely still heavily influenced by Cantonese pronunciation regarding Chinese language, considering the history of Hong Kong which is often used as a main reference for popular culture in writing China (it was established as a colony of the British Empire after the Qing Empire ceded Hong Kong Island in 1841-1842).

My suggestion is, if you are still new to Chinese, when creating OC/character names, use the keyword "List of Mandarin Baby Names" instead of "List of Chinese Baby Names" if your universe settings mainly use Mandarin Pronunciation. Or if your story takes place in Hong Kong, use keyword “List of Cantonese Baby Names” for your character’s name.

Or pick any Chinese Name, get its hanzi, then check it on wiktionary.org to pick which pronunciation you like to use.

So that in the future, there will be no more “Fa Mulan” (Hua Mulan or Fa Muklan!?), and “Xu Shangchi” / Xú Shàngqì (徐尚氣) with his sister “Xú Xiàlíng” / Hsü Hsialing (徐夏靈).

Read Suggestion: tips for choosing a Chinese name for your OC when you don’t know Chinese by fineillsignup

#Chinese language #writing fiction #fanfiction writer #writing in general #my thoughts

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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Another interesting tidbit I’ve just found is the supposed location of Mount Tonglu.

At first, on my fan-made map, I put the location of Mount Tonglu (and Wuyong Kingdom) randomly.

Then I accidentally found this when I was reading the wikipedia page regarding Zhou-Chu War:

The location of Tonglüshan itself is more or less in this region (Huangshi):

Instead of being in the northeastern region, apparently it is located in the middle, more like to the east of China.

But the problem is, what hanzi does Tonglüshan actually use?

I then used a google search with the keyword Yangtze (Tonglüshan’s location) using hanzi and the result is in this video.

When compared with the hanzi used in TGCF, they are different:

绿 (Lǜ) “green” instead of 炉 (Lú) “kiln/furnace”.

Therefore, I'm not sure if MXTX created “Mount Tonglu” based on Tonglüshan in Huangshi. I guess, it’s highly likely that Mount Tonglu is simply fictional.

TGCF map?

While I’m writing a fic and looking for a map, I found this fan made map on reddit thread:

Source: a reddit thread

Unlike the map in MDZS, this fan-made map of TGCF is like any other map in fantasy settings (eg LOTR, Final Fantasy series, anime One Piece/HxH, etc).

But what if the TGCF world itself uses China map as reference like in the MDZS?

Because there is one location that also exists in the real world, namely: the Gobi Desert.

Ke‌ ‌Mo‌ ‌demanded, “Our‌ ‌kingdom‌ ‌had‌ ‌disappeared‌ ‌in‌ ‌the‌ ‌Gobi‌ ‌for‌ ‌over‌ ‌two‌ ‌hundred‌ years.‌ ‌You‌ ‌are‌ ‌not‌ ‌of‌ ‌our‌ ‌people, why‌ ‌do‌ ‌you‌ ‌know‌ ‌our‌ ‌tongue? ‌Who‌ ‌are‌ ‌you?”‌ (TGCF chapter 24)

Xie‌ ‌Lian‌ ‌immediately‌ ‌said,‌ ‌“General‌ ‌Ke‌ ‌Mo,‌ ‌I‌ ‌think‌ ‌you’ve‌ ‌mistaken‌ ‌something.‌ ‌We’ve‌ traveled‌ ‌across‌ ‌the‌ ‌Gobi‌ ‌desert‌ ‌to‌ ‌get‌ ‌rid‌ ‌of‌ ‌the‌ ‌Guoshi‌ ‌of‌ ‌Banyue,‌ ‌how‌ ‌can‌ ‌we‌ ‌be‌ ‌the‌ helpers‌ ‌she‌ ‌sent‌ ‌for?”‌ (TGCF chapter 26)

And here is the location of Gobi desert:

So I want to try guessing the locations in TGCF are, which, although the names are fictional, are based on real locations.

Like Morioh and S city in JoJo which are said to be based on Sendai, Miyagi prefecture.

Before proceeding, remember that this is a fan-made and not a serious project either. This is purely headcanon so you are free to agree or disagree, if you prefer your own headcanon then so be it.

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#tian guan ci fu #tgcf meta #tonglu mountain #wuyong kingdom #heaven official's blessing #zhou dynasty #tonglushan #mount tonglu

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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I think the TGCF storyline will be more in line with the fantasy map

Why do I think so? Because one of the factors is Pei Ming's domain and the (supposed) location of Xuli in the north.

Based on the map I made above, if we follow the culture historically; Xuli Kingdom in Northeast China which Pei Ming is from is the territory of Manchuria.

And based on his character design on manhua and donghua, his appearance did not match with how the Jurchen people dressed.

Actually, I myself found a bit of a problem regarding the conception of Xuli Kingdom in the north;

First, the matter of Xuli Kingdom in the north being able to conquer Yushi Kingdom which is far to the south (of Xianle).

If you use a map of modern China, the expansion becomes a little ridiculous (not only a matter of area size, but also the difference in climate, terrain and so on and how the conquerors can adjust to them).

But this problem can usually be solved by using fantasy maps (if not based on modern map of China).

Second, Narrative logic (in my native language; this will be more accurate to be called “Cocoklogi”)

Why do most of us believe that Xuli is located in the north (corresponding to Pei Ming’s domain)?

Because Xie Lian as a martial god had his own country, Xianle as his domain.

And allegedly, Jun Wu's domain as the former martial god was also his own country, Wuyong.

Pei Ming is the martial god of north who hailed from Xuli, therefore, Xuli kingdom is located in the north.

Actually, Xuli's location itself isn't really mentioned in the novel.

It is only said that the country once conquered Yushi which is far south of Xianle.

And Xuli was Jing Wen's main domain!

The novel only said Jing Wen, not Pei Ming??

Jing Wen whose domain was in Xuli Kingdom (most of his temples were there) eventually lost his divinity as the country fell.

By the deed of his own deputy Nangong Jie (Ling Wen), as well as Pei Ming!

The same thing happened to Jun Wu and Xie Lian, as when their country fell, so did their godhood.

Now, think about it. If Pei Ming is willing to help Ling Wen destroy their own country…

If Pei Ming's domain in the north is his own country…

Wouldn’t it be the same as 'self-destruction'?

Keep in mind that Pei Ming ascended before his country (Xuli) fell (check his history in wiki).

Then logically speaking, it would not only be Jing Wen who would fall, but also Pei Ming himself!

If that’s the case, Pei Ming will not bother to help Ling Wen (maybe even trying to stop her instead).

Well, let's say if Pei Ming still wants to help Ling Wen because he likes her more than Jing Wen...

I think he will find other ways to bring down Jing Wen instead of destroying his own country (which supposedly his domain).

Thus, initially I was often inclined to think that Xuli is right next to Yushi, but not north of Xianle either. Something like this instead:

Let's use another cocoklogi (narrative logic); after Xie Lian fell, the next martial god to ascend was Mu Qing.

By that time Xianle had fallen and was replaced by the kingdom of Yong'an. Mu Qing ascended by cleaning up the remaining resentful spirits that roamed in the old capital of Xianle.

Let's say that he was technically inside the Yong'an Kingdom at that time (former Xianle).

Then shouldn't his domain be told in Yong'an instead of Southwest?

Jun Wu and Xie Lian were the Crown Princes, perhaps that's why their domain was their own Kingdoms.

But for others, it doesn't have to be the case.

Although there is few exception; Lang Qianqiu was the Crown Prince of Yong'an who ascended 300 years ago.

As he ascended, the kingdom of Yong'an still existed up to Banyue-Pei Xu’s time (200 years ago prior to present).

Why is Lang Qianqiu’s domain is being called in the east and not Yong'an? (or perhaps there had been a change since he ascended to the present time which did not make it to be mentioned in the novel).

TL;DR

This is why I'm a little skeptical about Xuli country in the north.

But to each for their own.

TGCF map?

While I’m writing a fic and looking for a map, I found this fan made map on reddit thread:

Source: a reddit thread

Unlike the map in MDZS, this fan-made map of TGCF is like any other map in fantasy settings (eg LOTR, Final Fantasy series, anime One Piece/HxH, etc).

But what if the TGCF world itself uses China map as reference like in the MDZS?

Because there is one location that also exists in the real world, namely: the Gobi Desert.

Xie‌ ‌Lian‌ ‌immediately‌ ‌said,‌ ‌“General‌ ‌Ke‌ ‌Mo,�� ‌I‌ ‌think‌ ‌you’ve‌ ‌mistaken‌ ‌something.‌ ‌We’ve‌ traveled‌ ‌across‌ ‌the‌ ‌Gobi‌ ‌desert‌ ‌to‌ ‌get‌ ‌rid‌ ‌of‌ ‌the‌ ‌Guoshi‌ ‌of‌ ‌Banyue,‌ ‌how‌ ‌can‌ ‌we‌ ‌be‌ ‌the‌ helpers‌ ‌she‌ ‌sent‌ ‌for?”‌ (TGCF chapter 26)

And here is the location of Gobi desert:

So I want to try guessing the locations in TGCF are, which, although the names are fictional, are based on real locations.

Like Morioh and S city in JoJo which are said to be based on Sendai, Miyagi prefecture.

Before proceeding, remember that this is a fan-made and not a serious project either. This is purely headcanon so you are free to agree or disagree, if you prefer your own headcanon then so be it.

Keep reading

#tgcf meta #pei ming #tgcf map #ming guang #tian guan ci fu #xuli #xianle #yushi #wuyong #xie lian #jun wu #jing wen #ling wen #mu qing #lang qianqiu #heaven official's blessing #tgcf theory

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How does one get better at fighting with a sword? I have a female character who was formally trained in swordfighting (being a noble heir) though she has a lot of room for improvement. I want a timeskip in which she trains and afterwards (is 6 months reasonable?) she is challenged by a pirate captain who has years of experience and talent in combat. She is going to lose and he isn't aiming to kill her. How would the fight play out realistically?

Realistically? She won’t kill him, her guards will. (She won’t even get close to him and his challenge is meaningless.)

This is the most important thing to remember: a female noble heir is the social and economic future of their household, if your pirate captain takes her then he gets to claim her which is the equivalent of stealing Alabama, Alaska, or California. Now do you think for a second her guards or her family will allow that to happen? (The answer is no.)

If you’re using pirates, then you’re probably pulling from the Golden Age of Piracy for inspiration, so between 1650 and 1726. It’s important to remember than aristocrats in any period before the 19th century were not decorative. Today, we (Americans especially) have a habit of confusing the echoes for the gunfire. We view the nobility and royalty like CEOs and other really rich people instead of what they really were: warlords, an important part of their nation’s command and control structure. Nobles were taught to fight because they needed to be capable of defending themselves from the peasantry, from other nobles, and from attempts at political assassination. Your heir is probably living in a period where she is expected to know how to fight because someone else is going to try to kill or kidnap her. While we’re talking about a period in history where the importance of the nobility was ending, it wasn’t there yet. Fencing as recreation hadn’t quite taken hold yet and your heir’s education is going to be for realities of the world she’ll be facing. This is also a period in history when training with live blades was not uncommon.

Nobles engaged professional swordmasters as members of their households to teach them and their children. Your girl is likely to have had a fencing blade in her hand by the time she was six years old, the standard training age for an aristocrat. It’s likely she was trained on a variety of weapons, but depending on your time period her main sword is likely to be either a rapier, an epee or another variant of smallsword, all of which will turn your pirate captain into Swiss cheese before he can say “what’s that?”. She’ll possibly also know how to use a longsword (still saw battlefield use) or a heavy saber (as opposed to the later lighter version of the fencing blade) as a cavalry blade, she’ll have been trained to use it from horseback in case she was ever called to military service by her monarch. If her family employs a professional duelist to fight for her father or mother in case of another noble challenging the family, she might have also trained with them. If her family doesn’t have the money or the family patriarch prefers to handle to duels themselves, it’s likely she was grilled by them regularly. As the heir, she’ll be under direct scrutiny from whichever figure is managing her education and training to ensure she can do her job when she eventually inherits management of the household/estate.

The problem here is that you’re thinking about this in terms of her not having any practical combat experience and conflating the 18th and 19th century nobility with the 16th and 17th century is a terrible, if common, mistake. Unless your pirate captain is a former member of the gentlemen class or noble class then the weapon he’ll be using is likely to be the cutlass, which while a fantastic weapon for boarding actions, is horribly outmatched by both the epee and the rapier when it comes to dueling. They’re both longer (reach and speed advantage) and faster (substantial speed advantage) and in the hands of someone who knows how to kill with them. Weapons are a great equalizer, your heir doesn’t need to be exceptional to kill him, she’ll be armed with the better weapon for the situation and has the knowledge to know how to use it in practical combat. Even if she’s armed with a longsword, she’ll win.

Here’s your first real issue: you’re conflating all types of combat experience together while ignoring the separate skill sets and types of experience. A pirate captain is going to be experienced in ship to ship combat and boarding actions, his exceptional talent is the handling of his crew and his ability to command. This is what he needs to be good at in order to maintain his position. Dueling is not going to be his focus, he may excel at dueling other pirates both with pistols and with swords but the question is who is he dueling? The caliber of your opponent does a lot to enhance skill, so does having the luxury to devote the necessary time to developing that skill. A boarding action is a mass melee, it’s not a duel. Even if he’s used to fighting multiple enemies, it’s going to be in fighting back to back with the support of his crew. His most common opponents are going to be other pirates, most likely drunk pirates, while on shore leave. This doesn’t leave him a lot of time to come up with the skill necessary to hand a noble their ass in a one on one. A duel with your heir is going to end up looking a lot like Edmond Dantes’ first duel with Ferdinand in The Count of Monte Cristo (2002). Your pirate is Dantes, she’s Ferdinand and she’s got less reason to play nice. (It’s worth noting Ferdinand isn’t even considered an exceptional duelist and, at this point in the movie, he’s just got the advantage of his training.)

Now, he could be a former naval officer or son of a merchant with a business in overseas trade. However, this would mean he comes from either a wealthy merchant family or the middle/upper class. At this point in history officers were still expected to buy their commissions which meant ships were largely commanded by the rich/gentlemen and the sailors/grunts were pulled from the poor/uneducated.

The second issue: Heirs are incredibly valuable, incredibly valuable. Female ones especially because they are the means of carrying on your bloodline. A lot of effort and work by the head of the household goes into the heir because they are the economic and socio-political future of the family. Heirs are not allowed to engage in the same sort of risky business that a second or third child can get away with. A fairly decent modern comparison is Prince William versus Prince Harry, both are in the military but only one gets to fight on the front lines. Now, you can disinherit the heir to ensure that their progeny/new husband cannot claim their titles and lands but you lose all the effort that went into them in favor of (what is likely to be viewed as) a substandard second aka the spare. So, again, it would be like stealing Alabama and she doesn’t have the free time to run off for a weekend cruise with a strange man unless she’s intending to throw away everything anyway (and no one is going to let her).

Second to the Family Head, the Heir is the most well-defended member of the family. They’re not getting out of the house without an escort, these men (and women) will be among the most loyal and skilled men (and women) the house has at their disposal. She’s not going to go anywhere without them and has probably known them (somewhere between four to six) all her life. They may know her better than her parents do, they’re always there, and they will defend her with their lives. Not being a noble, your captain has no ability to challenge her directly even if she challenges him. He is going to have to go through them to fight her and they aren’t going to bother with a duel. They’re not going to fight him one on one, they’ll fight him together. He’s outnumbered and fighting better trained opponents (it’s going to be either three on one with one guarding the girl or four on one with two guarding the girl), so he’s dead.

It’s important to remember that a bodyguard’s job is not to do what their protectee wants, it’s to do what is best for them and ensures their safety. It’s their job to keep them alive, not to keep them happy. She’s not the one paying their salary, her parents are, and even if she was it wouldn’t make a difference. While her guards are fighting him, the other one (or two) will hustle her somewhere else to keep her safe.

Third Problem: In attempting to take her anywhere, he has shown he means her harm. Whether it’s to kill her, ransom her, or claim her as his wife is irrelevant, whether he actually intends any of those things is irrelevant. From her perspective, that of her family, and her guards, he intends her harm and if she’s forced to fight him then it will be to the death. Remember, these are threats she faces from the other members of her country’s nobility. She’s primed to respond to any threats to her person with deadly force and so are her guards, all of whom are likely to face much more talented combatants from their own class than the pirate captain. She has a vested interest in being better at combat than him and she will be because nobles are not sheltered fragile flowers who have the luxury of using money instead of force to protect themselves. The French Revolution was successful because of the number of peasants and the willingness to bury the aristocrats in bodies (which was what it took). It wasn’t because they were better warriors.

Let’s Recap:

Do Not Steal California: Heirs are valuable and important people, stealing them is a lot like stealing the ownership of a state. Lots of people are bound to try it and there are reasons their families take steps to ensure they won’t succeed.

A Rapier or Epee versus a Cutlass: both weapons have a reach advantage over a cutlass and are much, much faster. The pirate captain’s brain will not be used to fighting at it’s speeds and in a single unarmored bout, it will be over in one or two hits. In fact, historically the epee is so fast that it resulted in multiple double suicides during duels which is part of the reason we switched to fencing with blunted blades.

Nobles Are Not Decorative: Unless we’re discussing nobles in the 19th (excluding Russia), 20th, and 21st centuries then an aristocrat’s position was fraught with danger. Even in the 18th century when they were heading toward being obsolete, nobles were very dangerous individuals who faced a great deal of danger in their everyday lives both from the peasantry and members of their own class.

Depending on Context All Combat Experience Is Not Created Equal: while there were pirates who were very skilled duelists this was usually a skill they cultivated during the time before they became pirates (as members of the gentry). Pirate Captains needed to be skilled in naval combat, interpersonal skills, leadership, and other skills relating to raiding, theft, and seafaring leaving little time to focus on skills unnecessary to their general lifestyle.

Where the Heir Goes, The Guards Follow or Lead: A noble’s guards are never far away, they travel in packs and it’s their job to defend their master from harm. Getting through them to the protectee isn’t easy and the protectee is unlikely to thank you if you do.

Swords are made for killing: intentions are great, but swords are made for killing. The better the opponent, the less likely the option of not killing. With faster weapons, it becomes very easy to kill accidentally or a wound may become infected leading to death.

Think Leia, Not Gossip Girl: I didn’t actually throw this one out there in the above, but personality wise, you’re better off looking at Princess Leia (especially Leia from A New Hope) as opposed to modern day rich girls like Blaire Waldorf and Serena Vanderwoodsen. Think about Leia’s response to Han and Luke’s rescue attempt on the Death Star, particularly the part where she takes charge and shoots the Stormtroopers. Feisty yes, but also intelligent and capable of taking care of herself. They provide her with the opportunity to escape, but she’s more than able to act for herself when the moment comes and patient enough withstand the indignities and torture inflicted on her by Vader and Tarkin to wait it for it. She’s also all business once she gets out and is much better at providing direction than the boys are at finding it.

In short, he’s dead.

A solution: as fun as the concept of the Princess and the Pirate is most of your problems could be solved by removing the heir part from the equation. If writing a lazy layabout who isn’t interested in real work is your angle with this character then it’s best to go with a member of the family who has the unfortunate luxury of being a strain on finances simply by virtue of their birth. The third child or a bastard the Father/Mother/Family Head refuses to get rid of who gets all the privileges, none of the responsibility, and who the family doesn’t care enough about to take an active interest in their protection or their training will have a much better shot of doing what you want without all the messy complications. They also have a much, much better shot of being in a place where they and the pirate will actually cross paths. Younger children have a much higher likelihood of leaving the country to seek their fortunes or being in less savory places. (Do not have the pirate break into their house, homefield advantage is huge and estates/castles are designed to be deathtraps for invaders. Don’t do it, you can’t have a fight there without drawing twenty or more guards.)

A solution to the sword problem: they’re drunk. Your character is at a low point in their life, they’re in a bar feeling their failure, and they’re drunk when they challenge the pirate. This gives the pirate the luxury to feel sorry for them, you can subtly handicap their actual skill level, and give them the opportunity to grow as a person and a combatant without jeopardizing all the advantages a noble has access to.

Some Reading Suggestions/Historical Figures:

Julie La Maupin: The life of Julie La Maupin could quite literally fill any swashbuckling novel to rival the tales of Alexandre Dumas, her stories however have the advantage of being real. This brash, deadly, bisexual cross-dressing swashbuckler bucked the times and society to carve her own way in 1600s France.

Gurps: Swashbucklers, Roleplaying In The World of Pirates and Musketeers: The Gurps books tend be great reference material and this one is a great overview of everything you need to write about pirates and swashbucklers. It covers the history surrounding pirates and musketeers, the notable historical figures, the socio-political climates of the times, and pretty much everything else you’re going to need to build your setting.

The Three Musketeers by Alexander Dumas. While not a book about pirates, this novel (and the others by Dumas) will be helpful for getting into the frame of mind to write about swashbucklers and nobles. It gets closer to a period when the nobility was still considered relevant and treats them that way.

The Scarlet Pimpernel by Emma Orczy (1903), the foundation for superhero literature and secret identities, this is the novel that inspired Zorro and subsequently Batman. It follows the adventures of wealthy Sir Percy Blakeney in his adventures rescuing individuals sentenced to death by the guillotine during the Reign of Terror. In England, Percy presents himself as a dim fop to throw off suspicion that he (along with a band of merry friends) is the Scarlet Pimpernel, daring escape artist, master swordsman, and outside the box thinker. If nothing else, it’s a fun adventure novel read.

The Errol Flynn Collection: The Seahawk and Captain Blood especially, but I suggest a general review of the Golden Age Swashbuckling films.

The Mask of Zorro, The Count of Monte Cristo, anything with fight scenes choreographed by Bob Anderson for the spectacular sword work which may give you ideas.

Wikitenaur: pretty much the best resource for historical fighting manuals if you want to go outside modern fencing to get ideas for your fight scenes. You will have to slog through some older language, some of the manuals come with plates and translations. Others don’t.

Get a manual on fencing. Even if you don’t plan to take up fencing yourself, a manual for beginners will be helpful for getting the basic ideas and terminology down.

While I wouldn’t recommend Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag for it’s historical accuracy (cringeworthy, especially the way it messes with and reduces the awesomeness of some very incredible historical figures) or it’s combat accuracy (also cringeworthy), it’s ship combat is a lot of fun and may help you get into the right mood for when it comes to the fun side of pirates. This depends if you want to shell out for the price tag. The same is true of Pirates of the Caribbean. Decide what pirate theme you’re going with, compare Jack Sparrow with Peter Blood for reference and do some research into historical figures to help you with your captain. If you’re doing a gender equal setting, feel free to research and export the considerations for male nobility onto your female noble.

Have fun!

-Michi

#world building #nobility #pirates #historical accuracy

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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your mu qing meta!!!!!!!! asdfghjkl idk what to say so gooooood!

because im obsessed with tgcf, do you hv any thoughts on the "mc meets love interest when he's a child" thing wrt hualian?? and it's resulting meanings or implications or whatchamacallit???

ty anon I’m flattered you enjoyed that prolonged train wreck of a post!!

hmmm... I mean, the unique thing about hualian meeting each other so early on in their lives is that for most of their relationship development, Xie Lian has no goddamn idea that Hua Cheng was also Wu Ming, was also the ghost fire, was also the nameless soldier, was also Honghong’er, so like, the significance of the two of them meeting really only exists on Hua Cheng’s side of the relationship

and on Hua Cheng’s side of the relationship, that’s what makes his character so fascinating, isn’t it? for him, Xie Lian is his religion, his guiding light, his greatest love, his driving obsession--and from that, Hua Cheng derives not only his will to live, but also self-improvement, self-betterment, until he has literally become the most powerful entity under heaven, all because he loves Xie Lian

they meet when they’re both rather young, sure, but it’s not your typical 青梅竹马 childhood-friends-to-lovers relationship because the relationship is so one-sided; Xie Lian treats a young Hua Cheng like he’d treat anyone else, and Hua Cheng, who is so starved of affection and kindness, decides to repay that with everything he has and more

so I guess the significance of their meeting is less about what that means for their relationship, and more about the continuous thematic thread in TGCF about the importance and worthiness of unthinking kindness. It is precisely Xie Lian’s benevolence that both rescued Hua Cheng from his disillusionment with life and inspired him to achieve, as well as the benevolence of a nameless passerby with a straw hat that brought Xie Lian back from the brink and averted a calamity (two, if you count what Xie Lian might have become)

#hualian #tgcf meta #xie lian #hua cheng #tian guan ci fu #heaven official's blessing

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TGCF map?

While I’m writing a fic and looking for a map, I found this fan made map on reddit thread:

Source: a reddit thread

Unlike the map in MDZS, this fan-made map of TGCF is like any other map in fantasy settings (eg LOTR, Final Fantasy series, anime One Piece/HxH, etc).

But what if the TGCF world itself uses China map as reference like in the MDZS?

Because there is one location that also exists in the real world, namely: the Gobi Desert.

And here is the location of Gobi desert:

So I want to try guessing the locations in TGCF are, which, although the names are fictional, are based on real locations.

Like Morioh and S city in JoJo which are said to be based on Sendai, Miyagi prefecture.

Before proceeding, remember that this is a fan-made and not a serious project either. This is purely headcanon so you are free to agree or disagree, if you prefer your own headcanon then so be it.

First, regarding the location of Mount Tonglu (Wuyong), I was looking for a map showing the locations of volcanoes in China and found this:

However, I didn't really check the history of these mountains, so I more or less made up the location of Mt. Tonglu here:

The map above is for the event circa 2000 years ago, since volcano eruptions by a single mountain was capable to buried the entire Wuyong kingdom, it made me think that Wuyong's territory wasn't that big.

Besides that, I was inspired by the "No Paths Are Bound" fanfic which brought Xianle into the history of Wuyong. Moreover, it was mentioned that for the people of Wuyong, they tried to invade other kingdoms to take over their land & have their people move in. Thus, I’ve made Xianle and Xuli bordered Wuyong.

Most readers believe that Xuli was located in the north, considering Pei Ming's domain (although I don't think it really has to be, because Xuli kingdom had already fallen during present time which I think, its location is no longer necessary where).

There is also Zhaoyi, my made up kingdom for my fic (therefore, not canon). I was inspired by the timeline of the Xia dynasty era where the royal territory was not as big as during imperial era, so I also made Xianle’s territory quite small as well.

Generally in every dynasty there is always territorial upheaval which often ends with one dynasty overthrowing another. In this fanfic of mine, I want to make sure that the Zhaoyi kingdom will be absorbed by Xianle. Yong'an itself was part of another country in the past which will be taken by Xianle.

The old capital of Zhaoyi is Qiyi. Qiyi itself is actually the old name of Qishan. Again, I got inspired by NPAB to incorporate MDZS’ places in TGCF. The name 'Zhaoyi' itself is taken from the history of Qishan County in the Spring and Autumn period during King Wu’s reign (Zhou dynasty) as one of its state; Shao (召 or 邵).

Regarding Lang’er bay location, I’ve made it based on Qinghai lake. Wait a minute, why the lake? Isn’t it a bay? The initial fan-made map is correct in seeing the concept of Lang'er bay as a ‘truly bay’. But I want to match the location of Lang'er bay to the map of China, which according to TGCF, located to the west of Xianle. The problem is, to the west of China there are no bays! Therefore, I tried to redefine the word 'bay' and I came up with this:

Thunder Bay! According to wiki, Thunder Bay is a large bay on the northern shore of Lake Superior, in Thunder Bay District, Ontario, Canada.

In addition, in Qinghai Lake itself there is a spot called “Fairy Bay Area”.

Years later, Wuyong had fallen, its territory was absorbed by Xuli. Xianle itself was expanding its territory and managed to seize part of Zhaoyi's. Zhaoyi moved the capital in unknown location (presumably around Yong’an, which still belonged to said kingdom). Also, moving the capital was a common thing to do since a long time ago.

During this time, Banyue and Yushi were found. It is noted that Banyue was located around Gobi desert and Yushi was a kingdom far to the south of Xianle. The blank territory between Xianle and Yushi can be filled with any random countries.

As time went by, Xianle and Xuli were keep growing. The Zhaoyi Kingdom finally fell and Yong'an officially became a part of Xianle. Despite that, some remnants of Zhaoyi still exist as autonomous zone led by rebels.

Circa 800 years ago, Yushi eventually fell and became part of Xuli's territory. You can see how ambitious Xuli country was back then (like the Mongol empire). Xianle itself began to clash with Xuli and managed to seize part of its territory. However during this tension, Banyue took its chance to absorb the autonomous zone of Zhaoyi. More places are revealed.

Less than a decade later, the fall of Xianle happened as a result of the civil war with the Yong'an rebels. Feng Xin mentioned that Yong'an obtained help from other countries secretly. Thus, given the tension between Xianle and Xuli, I presumed that it was Xuli who was secretly helping Yong'an (and also some of the rebel descendants of Zhaoyi who held grudges against Xianle). Actually some of the Xuli people prayed to Pei Ming, but Pei Ming paid no heed, considering that King of Xuli at that time made him break his sword.

During this time, there was a new dynasty that was starting to grow which would become the home country of Shi Wudu, Shi Qingxuan and He Xuan.

The decline of Xuli was starting to happen, as Yong’an and the unnamed country absorbed some of its territories. Yushi's region was eventually taken over by the unnamed country. Yong'an itself became a bigger country than Xianle, its territory reached the eastern edge (which would become Lang Qianqiu's domain later).

The location of Mount Yujun is revealed. Mount Yujun itself is said to be in Pei Ming's domain (north), because we already believe that Xuli is in the north, then Mount Yujun itself is located in Xuli.

Xuli had finally fallen while Banyue itself kept growing. Ling Wen and Pei Ming were responsible for the fall of their own kingdom (lol), I thought the latter agreed to participate because he saw how corrupt his nation had become. Xuli is then divided into several countries which I don’t bother to name and set the regional boundaries.

Circa 200 years ago, Banyue eventually was eradicated by Yong’an. Some years ago (it was not necessary to coincide with the fall of Banyue), the Black Water Demon Lair was discovered. According to TGCF, Black Water Demon Lair is located in the South Sea.

In the southern part of China there is a tropical island called Hainan, a place that I think is suitable for Black Water Island. In the middle of Black Water Island, there is Black Water Lake, and coincidentally:

On the island of Hainan there is also a lake. In the middle of the lake, there is also a small island that I actually wanted to make the location of the Nether Water Manor on, but I just remembered that the manor is like being in separated dimension (iirc underwater inside the lake).

Finally, Yong'an nation also fell and was divided into several countries (which again, I careless to name and set their territories). More places relevant to the plot are revealed (including the MDZS’ one as a tribute to NPAB). In the end, the largest country is Shi Qingxuan’s unnamed country (lol), and also in the Himalayan region there are several unnamed countries.

Interestingly, in the present timeline of TGCF, there aren’t named countries that are still standing.

Specifically below is a map showing the domains of the martial gods:

The domain divisions are purely made up and not based on regional divisions used IRL.

Thank you to those of you who have read up to here. I made this not to ridicule the fantasy map, not at all. In fact I think the TGCF storyline will be more in line with the fantasy map. It's just that I was challenged to use a map of China thanks to the existence of 'Gobi Desert' the novel mentioned.

#tgcf map #tian guan ci fu #tgcf meta #china map #fan made theory #my headcanon #mxtx crossover #alternate universe #heaven official's blessing #no paths are bound #loss of history

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The JoJoLands 1st chapter review: Breaking Bad in Hawaii

!!MAJOR SPOILER OF JJBA PART 9: THE JOJOLANDS!!

If you haven’t read the manga, read first before proceeding.

So, the subtropical country is actually in Hawaii. Our protagonist is Jodio Joestar.

He is 15 years old, he also has a sister, 18 years old. The sister is the one who drives the car, there is ‘Dua Lipa’ reference while listening to music.

Their car gets stopped by a cop. The sister mentioned about “COVID”, so let me guess… part 9 more likely takes place in 2023, since none of them wear mask, it’s likely that the regulation has been lifted.

A little trivia, because JoJolion (part 8) took place in 2011 and was first serialized in 2011 too, post ‘Tōhoku earthquake & tsunami’ (it also referred said disaster).

Always remember, fodder cops in JoJo are always corrupt (exception is Abbacchio’s friend). The cop is about to sexually assault the sister, but then Jodio won’t just stand still, he takes out his Stand.

The Stand’s ability generates waters, like a rain and flattens the cop, hollowing his body out. Water manipulation? It kinda reminds me of 「Vitamin C」 and 「Catch The Rainbow」.

The sister also has Stand power; moving and rearranging objects?

It’s colony type, like 「Harvest」 and 「Sex Pistols」. Usually, this Stand will be more ‘useful’ than simply ‘powerful’.

Jodio ends up killing the cops and burns the car, getting rid of the evidence.

Turns out that he and his sister work as drug dealers, so… this is what ‘filthy rich’ means.

They’re family of three, with Barbara Ann Joestar as their mother. Seems that she is a good mother, I’m glad. She is also the first Jo-mom introduced in part 9. The reason why the Joestar siblings doing dirty work is to protect her. I wonder why she needs that, will there be another reason behind it, or is it simply that life in Hawaii is hard? Also, as a single mom, she works in duty-free store.

Then the sister, turns out that he is ‘the brother’. Dragona Joestar, I wonder if he represents trans-woman here? But if he is trans, why isn’t his pronoun “she/her”? And why Jodio calls him “brother” instead of “sister”? Could it be that he is a genderfluid instead?

Actually, I’m quite beginner to this matter, feel free to correct me. There are also fans on twitter who said that his pronoun is “they/their/them”. So far, a JoJo character who is officially referred as “they/them” is Foo Fighters.

So as of now, I will call Dragona “he/his/him” following the translation. There’s also a clarification of why the translators decided to use the pronoun.

Now, let’s talk about the Joestar family tree. Their mother, Barbara is Holy’s sister. When people speculated that the protagonist will be reboot Josuke in part 4 (bastard lineage), turns out that their Joestar lineage is legitimate… at least in mother’s side.

Holy and Barbara were born from the same mother (Suzi Q). The father of our protagonist siblings is also mysterious. Jodio only mentions that “things were messy between dad and mom,” Were his parents divorced? However I think Jodio didn’t know about about their history. If they were indeed divorced, he should have just said “my parents were divorced” like Yasuho.

Somehow I theorize that maybe Barbara was in similar situation with Tomoko (part 4), ‘the father’ just left. So basically, our Joestar siblings are illegitimate children of their dad, but they got the “Joestar” name because of the mother is the Joestar one.

Another interesting bit, why is Kei not listed on the family tree again? Araki forgot? Considering that Barbara is likely the younger sister and her children are younger than Holy’s, could it be that the Joestar sisters had lost contact sometime after Kira Yoshikage was born?

At least, the Joestar family tree is updated again:

Now, the debut of “Pink Guy” of The JoJolands (LOL).

Yeah, he is dubbed such on twitter. He is one of Jodio’s customer. Their scene in the school bus kinda reminds me of Giorno & Bruno’s first meeting.

This boy is definitely the opposite of Giorno, I think the latter won’t like the former. Mentions of “Mechanism”, perhaps this will be the main theme in part 9.

Then another Jobro, Paco Lovelantes. He is a klepto, 19 years old, used to be chubby but now is packed, clearly a Stand user. Kinda sad that he has abusive father, I hope they are already separated. To Jodio, he is more like a co-worker than a friend.

And then another Jo-mom, plus “The Big Boss”. She is the school principal and the owner of a boutique, but according to Jodio, there are just her side jobs and a guise. Yeah… she is also literally big:

The Big boss gives a job, a mission to our Joestar siblings & Paco to do a diamond heist. The target is a rich person, conglomerate from Japan. They will come alone and stays in a luxurious villa (Meryl refers the person with “they”, likely she doesn’t know whether this person is a man/woman). I wonder who? A Higashikata? (The conglomerates in part 8). Some said that it won’t be Joshu because:

Perhaps Tsurugi? In 2023, he will be around 21 years old, quite an adult.

They won’t be robbing just ‘three’, Meryl adds the “Pink Guy” into the team. Who is this “Pink Guy” actually? His name has not been revealed yet. Is he Meryl’s son? Because Jodio mentions that “she has a handsome husband and a kid”.

LOL, I already like this “Pink Guy”, the weirdo of the team, he has such Secco’s vibe I guess.

This mission is apparently much tougher than our protagonists imagined. Also, imo… we should not immediately assume that Meryl is on the protagonist’s side. At the moment, she is pretty neutral… and kinda sus to me.

Remember Diavolo? Giorno and Bruno’s gang were initially worked for him, fighting La Squadra. Then DOJYAAAN! He is the big villain.

Would be cool to have her as a villain tbh, but don’t be sure yet. It’s still too early to say. At least, I’m pretty sure that she is a Stand user too.

The chapter ended with our protagonist gang’s Stand names… but the “Pink Guy”’s one?

I don’t think I will do this review for every chapter in the future, I would like to wait more to have a theory in mind.

#the jojolands #jjba part 9 #first chapter #chapter review #jodio joestar #dragona joestar #paco lovelantes #meryl mei qi #jojo pink guy #barbara ann joestar #my thoughts #november rain #jojo's bizarre adventure

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A sample of comments with well intention in readers' mind but considered rude by some authors:

HOW DARE YOU LEAVING ME WITH THIS CLIFFHANGER? PLEASE DON'T BE LAZY AND UPDATE ASAP! (Affectionate)

Reader: "I'm so excited, their story is fun, so I'd like to joke with the author. But I'm afraid s/he will misunderstand what I mean, so yeah... insert (Affectionate) just to be safe.

Positive thinking: "They don't really mean to be mad or anything, the capslock used to express their excitement. Also, calling me 'lazy' is just a joke. Overall, they just want to mimic a hot-blooded enthusiastic reader, but it's not like they think bad about me."

Negative thinking: "Using the word (Affectionate) is just an excuse, no matter how I read, their words are rude. They actually want to berate me but using (Affectionate) for the sake of saying that 'they are not mean', which actually 'yes, they are.'

I hate angsty ending but before that great story.

Reader: "I didn't expect the ending to be sad, even though I thought it would have a happy ending. But the story is really good, so I'm not disappointed that I've followed it all this time."

Positive thinking: "They just hate the ending which I can't control of. At least they still read my story & stays until the end, why? Because they think that my story is great. Angsty ending it's just not their preference but they still took their time to appreciate my work. At least, thank you for reading until the end."

Negative thinking: "They could have worded it better; 'I usually hate angsty ending, but your work is so great I can't stop reading.' Why should you express your disappointment? Do I care that what kind ending I should write for your liking?"

I usually hate this kind of story, but there is something from your writing that keeps me interested in continuing to read it and I have no regrets, because (insert reasons)

Reader: "Yeah, there is something in this writing that enchanted me when normally I just avoid this kind of story. The writer is so skilled I guess."

Positive thinking: "I am moved, I feel like I really succeeded writing this story, considering something you used to hate can make you stay up to this moment. Thanks for staying all this time."

Negative thinking: "Why do you keep reading for something you hate? There are still many stories out there that might suit your taste. At least, thank you for reading mine, but I'm not interested hearing what you hate."

MOOOORRRREEEE!! / PLEASE UPDATE! (etc)

Readers: "I'm so excited, I can't wait for the next update. At least I want to tell the author that I'm looking forward for the next chapter.

Positive thinking: "Thank you, I thought I wrote this alone and no one cares. But seeing these comments makes me want to keep going because there are some who actually care with what I'm doing.”

Negative thinking: "These readers are so pushy and pressuring me and they're rude too, why don't they understand that author can be busy too?"

My personal thought (TL;DR in the bottom line):

Since I am both reader & author now, I will speak from both sides, I have no intention of leaning to any party, be it readers or authors.

As a reader; We should be more careful in choosing words when commenting, because who knows if the author who wrote our favorite fanfic is a sensitive person or is having personal problems so they tend to focus on the negative side in our comments.

We understand that we actually have good intentions to motivate them to keep writing, besides that we also want to share our experiences in reading their works so that we tend to be honest by such words; "I initially hate this but..." or "I don't like the ending but...", but consider that some authors don't care about it or don't even want to hear it. They’re writing for fun and think about it, maybe our words just ruined their fun.

If you really need to put out thoughts or rant about certain fanfic, I suggest doing it on your personal blog away from the author.

Complaining right in front of the author is not just rude or impolite, it’s entitlement; where you impose your thoughts/ideas on those who are impossible to read your expectation. Why don't you just write your own story? That's most likely what their respond will be whenever they receive such comment.

The idea that they have, and what they want to write is not always in line with your expectation. Perhaps, initially you were interested and liked their story, but over time, their story started to deviate from your expectation, you're starting lose the interest.

If the time comes like that, you should just stop reading.

Maybe you feel that "I've wasted my time on this". But remember, no time is wasted when you were still enjoying their story.

Your time is just starting to be wasted when you keep reading stories you no longer like!

Remember that they once entertained you, don't forget that moment to the point that you only feel that they wronged you!

As an author; I personally prefer to focus on the positivity written in the examples of comments above. No matter how you read it, the comments above still have positive point compared to straight up flames like the following:

“Your writing sucks, you should stop writing and do something else”

“Uh this is so OOC I can’t, I’ll stop reading now (blocked)” (I’ve got this one btw lol)

“Ew, this irked me so much, how can you write something this disgusting?”

Something like this one too (the author is right to be offended)

It’s alright if you still won't accept comments like misunderstood ones above (not the flame ones), but I think instead of telling said reader, it's better if you just delete the comment if you really don't like it.

It's an indirect way of saying that you don't like their comments, they may understand.

Telling them directly that you don't like their comments will only make them reluctant to read your works again. Think about it, they love your work, they took the time to express their feelings and want to motivate you.

And suddenly, they discovered that you don’t like them.

Being sensitive is not wrong, you have feeling, but so does the readers. Don't you think that they can get hurt too?

Maybe you want to make them realize that what they did hurt you, even if it wasn't on purpose.

Or maybe you think that "I don't need readers like them" (tbh, that's arrogance)

If you really want to prevent comments like that from persisting, instead of driving away your readers, just write on your A/N that; you don't accept comments like the following “...” (describe)

Don’t be too obvious as well, example; if you received this comment in your work: “I hate angsty ending but before that great story.” Don’t write it in your A/N to the same work that “I don’t like comment like this; I hate angsty ending but before that great story”.

Remember, you can get hurt by their unintentional remarks. And now you want to hurt them back? Isn’t that hypocrite?

Instead, write this; “I hope not to receive comment that have "but" in it, if there's something you don't like, just keep it to yourself.”

Maybe it would be better if you do this in the first chapter or every chapter, so that your potential readers can anticipate if they want to leave such comment to your work.

Also, don’t act arrogant. Often I see sensitive authors being arrogant, telling said reader directly that "I won't update if you're being this rude" "this story isn't for you", etc. You’re basically treating your readers like beggars or little brats.

Remember, there are lots of cakes. Your readers won't starve to death because they don't eat your cake, they’ll just find another cake.

Do you think your reader will cry over their mistakes because of that? No. They may just stop reading your work and interacting with you, then look for other authors who have more positive energy than yours... yeah, they’re no longer your reader.

They may learn their mistake, but your attitude that drives them away will not make them want to come back to you and be nicer to you.

They just try not to repeat their mistakes to the next authors.

Shooing your readers is only legit if they really don't like your story and only leave negative comments;

R: “This writing sucks, OOC, I hate it.”

A: “Then get out, this is not for you” (blocked)

But don't chase them away if there is still something from our story that makes them like it.

So keep in mind that what separated your unintentionally rude readers with the real flamers is that the former still like your work when the latter hate it so much.

#writing fanfic #fanfiction writer #fanfic authors #fanfic readers #ao3 #ff.net #fandom in general #my thoughts #I'm both reader & author btw #fanfiction.net #archive of our own #wattpad

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These FF.net authors are so bold, they don’t mind with flame and even asking for it.

I don’t think I can be that bold (brave).

In case you don’t know “flame”:

Flames are the opposite of helpful feedback. It means sending an email to an author to tell them you disliked the story you just read. Common examples are people who can't stand slash, yet read a slash story in its entirety then email the author to tell them they hate slash. Well, here's a thought, if you know you won't like it, don't read it.

Remember there is a difference between saying 'you may not know it but you spelled bestiality wrong.' and saying 'if you can't spell it you shouldn't be doing it, dumb ass'. While I realize the latter is more tempting be polite, authors have memories like really well superglued traps, they won't forget your flame and will probably even send back a snarky response if you send them one. (quoted from: fangedfour.com)

I think the term is rarely used in todays fandom world.

#fanfiction.net #bold and brave #fanfic authors #fanfic writing #fandom #ff.net #flames and flamer #nostalgia 00s fandom

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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Sometimes having “0 note” is still better than having notes by people who are just spitting your post.

Because “no one cares” is still better than “no one agrees to you”.

#0 note #personal thoughts #personal stuff #my rants have 0 note #and i feel peace #no one cares is still better than no one agrees to you #shitpost

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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I totally agree with all of these points.

Authors have right to be offended by such.

However, I’ve also found that some are overly sensitive that even words like: “MORE” “PLEASE UPDATE” (badly worded with positive intention) etc might offended them too as some authors are focusing more on our choice of words than our intention (which actually it’s not that hard to grasp).

Avoid backhanded compliments. Please don’t start a comment with, “To be honest I hated this at first, but…” or anything similar. If there is an insult in your comment that is turned positive somehow, it is still an insult, and it is still hurtful.

This one is not truly hurtful to me, because I think that they mean when something I write that they initially hated is successfully able to make them appreciate it too.

I only focus on ‘the positivity’ if the comment contains both (negative and positive).

But again, to each their own (and I’ll avoid to comment such in others’ work).

An open letter to fanfic readers

Do not leave criticism in fanfic comments. Even if it’s constructive. Even if you’re “just being honest.” This is not traditional publishing, and you should not treat fic in the same way you treat traditionally published works. AO3 comments are not Amazon reviews.

If you want to offer the author criticism, please follow the steps below:

Contact the author to see if they even want your criticism (their vision and intention might be different than yours; this isn’t for-profit publishing, so there’s a chance the author has no desire to make their fic anything than what THEY want it to be. Moreover, unless you’re some kind of literary genius, it’s possible that they might not give a fuck about your opinion)

If they do, provide it in a private forum so that they have the opportunity to accept or reject your criticism outside the public grounds of AO3 comments (what I mean is: CRITICISM IN COMMENTS IS FUCKING HUMILIATING)

Do not be offended if they don’t accept your criticism

Thank them for their time and for listening to you speak your peace

Some additional notes:

Do not leave negative criticism/hate/wank on a WIP (or, see above: ever). Some people are enjoying the story and negativity might (will) make the author fall out of love with what they’re writing such that they don’t want to finish it. Also, you owe it to the author, who is writing FOR FREE, to hear them out to the end of their story in case they end up fixing what you were criticising.

Do not leave a comment telling the author why you stopped reading the fic. The author isn’t going to fix it and it’s just going to make them sad and feel shitty. Seriously, these types of comments are everywhere and they help NO ONE.

If you read something in a fic you don’t like, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST STOP READING IT. Please don’t let yourself believe that the way you see fic is the way fic ought to be. Everyone likes different things. It’s okay to exit silently. It’s the polite thing to do.

Do not point out OOC. Ever. Period. End of story. Interpretation is the entire point of fanfic. If you don’t like someone’s interpretation, DO NOT READ IT. You’re not the IC Police.

Please please please, I am begging you, readers of fanfic, to take into consideration that fanfic authors are not celebrities, even if you think they’re super popular and amazing writers and you get hearts in your eyes when they acknowledge you. If you cut them, they will bleed. If you talk to them, they will listen. If you tell them they suck, they will believe you.

Be kind to fanfic authors. They do what they do because they love to do it. Don’t take that away from them by leaving tactless or rude comments.

#fanfic authors #ao3 #reading fanfiction #archive of our own #I wished I'm not in any fandom #I wished I don't have to read a fic

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“The story is about a boy who becomes millionaire in the subtropical islands.”

So, it’s no longer Northern Europe or Scottish Highlands?

Also, instead of arguing which country part 9 would take place, what if we have travelling theme like part 3 but with subtropical archipelago states?

The JOJOLands sketches page (Ultra Jump, Feb ‘23)

#the jojolands #jjba part 9 #jojo bizarre adventure #jojo part 9 #part 9 jojo prediction

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Reading this thread, you’ll never know how sensitive some of your favorite authors could be.

Lesson learned; don’t comment anything if there’s nothing you really want to say to them.

Asking or encouraging them to write more? If you worded it wrong, it could rub them wrong and discouraging them instead.

Thinking again, I think we have this kind of paradox between writer-reader:

Authors’ writing fic, needs comment for encouragement to write more ->

Readers comment to encourage ->

Authors get offended by some of the comments, thinking they’re rude/pushy/demanding ->

Said readers stop comment, worry that their favorite authors might dislike their comments again ->

Authors’ wondering why readers rarely comment their fics, starting to lose motivation to write more ->

repeat cycle 1.

Tbh, point 1!-Authors and point 3!-Authors could be different persons, but as a reader, how do we know which?

Easily offended point 3!-Authors don’t actually ask our motivation either.

Thus, the safest way (I think) is not to comment to their work if there’s really nothing you want to say and you just comment it for the sake of “telling them that we’re here”.

Or perhaps just drop this cheap emoticon 🙂👍 to tell them “we’re here, good, keep going.” (which regretfully why I didn't figure it out long ago).

Tbh, as a reader, I do love to have my favorite fics keep updating until the story is completed. Thus, the desire to motivate them arises.

Regarding the choice of words; sometimes we don't really think about it because we are busy (yes, this busyness is also the reason why we don't write our own fic).

Apart from that, another factor is that some of your readers (us) are not native English! Their words might not be rude in their language, but translated it in English… you might get what you considered rude.

I remembered an author who complained on twitter that a reader commented in Spanish on her English fic.

Have you ever thought that maybe the Spanish commenter once wrote their comment in English and was considered 'rude' by an author so s/he decided to use their own language to be safer?

As a writer myself (yes, I'm writing now); I don’t mind with how you worded an encouragement to me as long as the intention is positive. I don’t even mind with lack of comment as “I write because I love and want to do it.”

We may mutually agree that comments ‘like these’ are what should make us offended and demotivated.

Unpopular opinion, but I kinda wish AO3 has kudos feature per chapter (not just per story) and retractable kudos.

So I don't have to comment if they are the type of writer who demand recurring encouragement whenever they update.

TL;DR

The safest way is to assume that an author doesn't thirst your comments.

My mistake is assuming that authors who update for a long time is because they need motivation. Well, it could be because they're just busy.

Comment if you really have something to say that you like the story.

It doesn't have to be in every chapter, if there's nothing you want to talk about in that chapter, just be a silent reader or drop a positive smiley.

Random muse:

The first time I found AO3, I felt I found a more mature medium than FF.net.

Mature in quality and so on.

But speaking of sensitivity this time, I wonder if those Easily offended point 3!-Authors have ever been on FF.net before?

Remember that ‘reviews’ (yes, not ‘comments’) during FF.net era were on average harsher?

Complaints that your characters are OOC, your writing sucks, etc often happened there.

Worse, authors cannot reply to their insults (no ‘reply’ feature... back then).

We even had the term 'flame' for such reviews, and 'flamer' for those who write them.

Something that seems to be no longer used in the AO3 era. Even comments regarding OOC are rare todays (though I got one lol).

Yet, in every update from the authors, their A/N always included ‘R&R’, which means ‘Read & Review’, full of enthusiasm.

They don't bother with the flames they receive and keep doing what they love.

Your point? Not really there anyway, I'm just being nostalgic and contemplating the changing times.

#fanfic authors #ao3 #fanfiction #ff.net #back in my day #easily triggered #sensitive people #archive of our own #fanfiction.net #my thoughts #my rants #7. idc if you lose motivation i'll pick other cake #Also for the u/ who said 'I can give you nothing if I like'#LOL 'I don't have to drop a comment to your work if I like'#I don't even care if you don't update or your fic is discontinued lol #we just want to cheer you but you overestimate yourself as if we can't live with your fic #we'll stop eating your cake and pick another cake #I hope you are also not the type who needs encouraged comment to update #cuz that's quite contradictory #said u/ talked about me but not straightly directed at me #that's why I just rant here I don't want to make a further conflict with them #also kudos for op u/ in (affectionate) thread for focusing more on our intention than minding our choice of words

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Musings about Mu Qing’s Feelings Towards Xie Lian

Since Mu Qing won the “polls” on twitter last night, I thought I’d bully him a bit and publish this pseudo-meta. I had trouble understanding him at first, until it hit me at some point that it’s not entirely impossible that he may have harbored unrequited romantic feelings for Xie Lian–which helped explain a lot of things.

This is super rough since it’s what I tossed out on one of my discord servers, so it may have some typos/etc. And it’s just my personal interpretation, so take that as you will!

MQ probably felt Some Way™ for XL ever since their childhood days, and you see it during book 2 especially when you get to see XianLe trio’s happy background. It’s easy to fall in love with someone who essentially pulled you out of the dirt, and then continuously protected you from scrutiny by taking it on to themselves. Easier still when that person is someone like XL. For all that MQ b!tches, he didn’t actually hate being XL’s servant back then. He didn’t mind the work, and he definitely was grateful for the opportunity to be so close to XL, all the time. But what he resented was undoubtedly the fact that his status was so much lower than XL’s to the point that XL was completely and utterly unattainable (not just romantically, platonically as well). And his frustration and anger over this often presented itself whenever XL did nice things for him. Because it wasn’t that MQ didn’t appreciate that, but that it further cemented the idea that XL was beyond reach. XL could do as he pleased, as the crown prince, and it was clear he would never see MQ the way MQ wanted to be seen. An equal, on the same playing field.

CONTINUED UNDER THE CUT DUE TO LENGTH:

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#mulian #tgcf meta #mu qing #xie lian #tian guan ci fu #heaven official's blessing

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THIS!

This meta and (this) reddit thread are the ones who successfully answered the concern of my own post.

Instead, beefleafers who decided to reach out to me just disappointed me, shutting me up and gatekeeping me.

Please, sane & mature beefleafers, show me that you truly exist (ಥ﹏ಥ)

At this point, I think that beefleafer redditors are more mature than beefleafers on tumblr.

What actually happens to Beefleaf in Canon?

I feel like there are a lot of misconceptions about what happens to Beefleaf in canon. Most of this misconceptions are due to the deceptive way in which the story is constructed, which has the objective of increasing the perceived terror leading up to the confrontation against Black Water, to maximize it during the very confrontation and, in order to do so, temporarily gives the reader false information about Black Water, that is rectified later in the story, sometimes even after the end of the Black Water arc. Some of these misconceptions are actually encouraged by the author as a mean to create fear in her characters, before being disproved.

Due to the structure of the story, what actually happens in canon may be lost on a first reading, but it becomes more obvious during a second reading, when one can revisit older scenes, knowing He Xuan’s identity and motivations.

In this meta I will examine:

When does He Xuan substitute the Earth Master?

Xie Lian’s deduction

Ming Yi’s Face

When does He Xuan discover about the traded fates?

Xie Lian’s deduction

Why did He Xuan infiltrate the heavens?

What did He Xuan want for Shi Qingxuan?

The escape from the Water Master’s palace

Shi Qingxuan’s corruption

He Xuan hurting Shi Qingxuan

Was He Xuan really going to trade Shi Qingxuan’s fate?

The MDZS parallels

About He Xuan’s characterization

He Xuan’s goodness and his fight against tyranny

He Xuan’s diet

He Xuan’s bearing

The “Not your best friend” gag

As this meta’s focus is on misconceptions, Beefleaf’s romatic troping won’t be examined in here, unless relevant to the meta’s scope.

So, let’s get right into it!

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#beefleaf #tgcf meta #beefleafer #he xuan #shi qingxuan #tian guan ci fu #heaven official's blessing #my thoughts

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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Here’s how to block:

The image is purely used as an example, I really don’t block that user.

But if you actually don’t want to block me because you still want to see my other posts (though highly unlikely I think), you can use the tag filter method.

I added a tag just special for this: #aku baper

Step 1:

Step 2:

Step 3:

Step 4:

There is another more specific method, namely ’post filter’.

Just repeat the step 1 and 2.

Then step 3.1:

And step 4.1:

Voila, my unwanted beefleaf post won’t bother you again but (in this case) you can still see my other posts that do not ruin your mood (maybe).

“What if I don’t have a Tumblr account to do those steps?”

You don't even have tumblr, HOW ENTITLED YOU ARE to policize how the tumblr users should post!

Then just look for beefleaf content elsewhere like Facebook groups, subreddits or whatever.

Remember!

tumblr.com/tagged/(whatever) IS NOT a fanclub, it’s a group of individual’s post that shared related topic.

I think I’ve done this far only for you guys.

I’ve been added that much warnings, tags, and NOW this tutorial in my post and it’s still not enough!?

Hey I saw your post in the beefleaf tag about why you don’t ship beefleaf and I’d just like to say that even though I find your argument interesting … perhaps you can keep entire paragraphs about not shipping beefleaf out of the tag meant for shippers of beefleaf. It’s sort of impolite and I’m sure many shippers were upset by you tagging it that way and then saying “don’t like don’t read.” Yes they can avoid reading it but something against the ship just doesn’t belong in the tag. Hope this doesn’t seem too aggressive - I wasn’t sure if you knew the usual protocol for this sort of thing and I’m not good with words.

I already answered why I won't remove the tag here.

And again, I'D RATHER HAVE YOU BLOCK ME THAN REMOVE MY TAGS if you think that my post is an eye-shore to you.

Thank you for respecting my opinion but you're more disappointing than previous anon (who agreed to just block me) because I already give major warning in CAPSLOCK and bold for those of you who can't handle criticism for your favorite ship (Yeah, I think I have to add more "to block me" because of this).

Yes they can avoid reading it but something against the ship just doesn’t belong in the tag.

It still belongs to the tag because it’s about beefleaf. It’s not even an anti-post because it’s not all negative about them.

If you think the tag is exclusive for 'favorite things' or 'shipping' for liking, you need to learn more about tumblr in general.

I need the tag to sort my archive, it's more important than to satisfy you which you can handle it yourself by just hit (...) then block and...

...your dashboard page is clean again from negative posts about beefleaf.

I’ve been in tumblr for a decade and as long as I know ‘the tag’ is not equal with ‘the fanclub’, it’s equal to ‘related topic’.

And tumblr will always be like this.

Unless the feature of creating exclusive group/fanclub can be realized.

Sorry for eventually dragging other fandom, but even ‘Final Fantasy 7′ with massive ship-wars handle this better, tag like #cloti or #clerith are not exclusively for what's good for them, even valid criticism often uses these tags.

I never experienced anything like this when I was criticizing #cloti, and over the time I actually grew to see the good side of said pairing.

The FF7 fans maybe just brushed it off or block the haters in silent idk, because I still can see the variety of the contents using those tags.

Or these #destiel posts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 that should’ve offended destiehellers in ‘Supernatural’ fandom.

And with this much fandoms I’ve never experienced this tag-keeping before.

You need to realize that there must be a moment when someone doesn’t like what you like.

Do you think I’ve never experienced it? Many times I’ve accidentally found things that I love got severely criticized by others.

You may hate to see dust on your table, but you can’t just expect dust to never get on your table, you need to clean it by yourself.

You may hate to see a post you don’t like, but you can’t just expect people to stop posting it, you need to filter it by yourself.

If you really need a special space that contains only positive things you like, you need to figure out which platform that is suitable for that.

Tumblr is not a fanclub, it only provides you feature to block posts you don’t like.

Go make fanclub/livejournal/group/subreddit etc dedicated for beefleaf, anything that you have the right to moderate. Trust me, you won’t find me there to badmouthing them because I know my place.

Now, you add another reason why I dislike beefleaf.

I won't respond post like this again in the future.

Or probably stop writing TGCF related all together and leaving the fandom.

Thanks for being polite at least, but I still stand in my stance. At least you won’t find me writing about beefleaf or anything that doesn’t conform your expectation anymore.

#tumblr tutorial #how to block #how to filter #tian guan ci fu #beefleaf fans #beefleaf #since this is reblog it's safe to tag 'that' right?#it shouldn't show up in dashboard i guess #unless you're following me #actually i was still interested in writing a few more meta posts for tgcf but you guys have made me so turned off

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fauzhee10069 · 1 year

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TW-CW fandom-related RANT, read at your own risk.

i just now found out that beefleafers are worse than caatofags.

can't handle negativity and likes to gatekeep opinions.

even caatofags were loud in their delusion, they were not randomly shutting people off who disagree on them.

they may just brush it off with maturity.

just a single post, beefleafers' mentality already feel like being attacked.

imagine being a caatofag and read all of my posts denying their belief.

or imagine being a destieheller and asking every single one of anti-hellers to remove their posts/stop hating them.

you failed to provide me a proper argument like this, so you switch to do tag-keeping instead?

this problem shouldn't be overly hard to solve, by blocking me, your feed will look nice again.

i don't care having people blocking me more than you guys wish you could dictate me.

i don't know you and i don't care to know you.

it's not like you care to my other posts either.

you just want that single post to be gone on your feeds, right?

(...) -> block, just two clicks will solve that.

i've tested it myself, it simply swipes away the post you don't like.

it's more efficient than typing many words to complain in my ask box.

how long have you been in the internet?

does blocking feature sound alien to you?

i’m even going far to make this tutorial for you!

don't waste your time to change my mind, even a mother can't mold their kids into a man/woman she completely wanted.

i think I've done this much only for them.

of all my meta posts, this is the first time i have to give this massive warnings:

though it disrupts my usual writing flow, i’m still willing to do it.

then tw/cw tags:

EDIT:

this case reminded me of a Twitter trend a few months ago regarding entitled Wattpad users who wanted the algorithm to be implemented in AO3.

are most of the beefleafers in the generation of Wattpad users? Is that why they are not used to self-filters & lacking emotional maturity in viewing internet contents as they are too spoiled by the algorithm which often succeeds in showing the content they like?

so when the system fails them, they immediately become aggressive and blame the individual who made the post they don’t want to see.

i still want to believe that there are still enough mature beefleafers out there.

but if that's the case, they should be able to react to this post without confrontation.

just the word 'personal opinion' should be enough not to make them baper easily offended.

this one is not even properly tagged, so if there is beefleafer who gets triggered by this post and complain to me, THAT'S IT! You're truly the problem.

#my rants #ghiaccio #they get triggered and hate to see my post #could it be because I'm right?#that you indeed put HX's feeling & resentment aside to allow him being in love with SQX #that's fine actually but you can't force me to like it #because i think it's fucked up #wasting HX's motivation as supreme and exhausting himself into posing as someone else #for hundreds of years and then throwing his grudges away in the name of love #what's so hard about waiting for the post-canon to realize their relationship?#rather than brushing off his hundred years resentment as momentary tantrums?#you are free with your headcanon #but don't force it to become canon #don't force me to like it either #xuanxuan is tragedy #not hs romance of bestfriends-lovers #xuanxuan is basically tgcf's xuexiao #that's mxtx's canon for you #don't twist that if you use canon settings #it's a different matter if AU #every AUs besides canon divergence of course #bcos you're bitch if you take away a tragedy already written so beautifully by mxtx #but you also don't have to comply this #then we can end our disagreement by blocking each other

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