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blue-bells7 · 10 days

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sam + lack of bodily autonomy?

This one is a little silly, but it does address the lack of bodily autonomy. I hope it suits.

Thegod recoiled from Sam. “What even areyou?”

Deanrolled his eyes. “Here we go again. He’s a hunter,” he explained in a loud, slowvoice, the kind that people use when they speak to someone who they thinkdoesn’t understand their language. “He’sa hunter. Do you understand what thatmeans?” He turned to Sam. “Sam. You – hunter. Him – god. Make with the stabbing already, there’s abarstool with my name all over it.”

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blue-bells7 · 10 days

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https://at.tumblr.com/deanisatopdom/yes-sams-a-real-selfish-asshole-is-basically/3tvhzs7phyoj

What are your thoughts on this? First I was surprised to see it was jackles who said this considering the show was focused more on dean for the longest time. Feels like he really does need to be the single lead by himself, would explain the whole The Winchesters mess

All that interview tells me is that Jensen doesn't understand basic storytelling and the role of a protagonist and supporting protagonist.

Did Sam think of himself? Sure, because he wanted safety, away from the family business. But just because the storyline revolves around one character for a while doesn't mean that the character is selfish. It just means the character has more of a story that needs to be told. Supernatural is Sam's hero's journey from overcoming all the obstacles to accepting his life and finally being rewarded with what he always wanted, a stable home life, but at a very high cost - the loss of the one person closest to him.

The fact that the Dean-centric storylines were the lowest-rated in the series should have clued Jensen in to the fact that people didn't tune in for Dean's journey. In fact, all the Dean-centric stories - purgatory, Demon Dean, Michael Dean - none of them produced any real change or growth in Dean. People were annoyed that you could barely tell a difference between MOC Dean and the real Dean the characters were so similar. Dean never really went evil, or had to suffer the guilt because of it. And by the end of the series, the only real growth Dean had obtained revolved around Sam and accepting Sam's autonomy.

I think there's some real insecurity there for Jensen to want to be the lead protagonist in SPN for so long and pushing for it even though it didn't serve the story. A secure actor would recognize their role as a supporting protagonist as being equally as important as the protagonist because it allows the audience to connect with the protagonist through the supporter's view. But, for whatever reason, he couldn't recognize Dean's importance to Sam's story and that's too bad.

And yes, I believe that insecurity has led us directly into TW, where it's becoming quite clear that the entire show is starting to revolve around Dean, thereby making Dean possibly the most important character.

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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The things I would do to be able to write so eloquently and beautifully

To express how much Sam means to me and his story

#sam winchester #i kin him #I relate to much to him and it makes me sad #supernatural #anti sam hate

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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I sometimes will listen to Labor by Paris Palome and it’s such an amazing song

But sometimes my lil hyper fixation brain will try and make something about a character

Than I saw the Dean Labor video and I’m like so we just pulling things out our asses now??

If we all collectively agree that Sam is woman coded 👀 and his entire story fits a good chunk if not the entire song.. I’m just sayin 💀😎

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to make an amazing and emotional song about the struggles and pain of being a woman, into something for a guy

But it’s just something to thing about

#woman coded Sam Winchester my beloved #supernatural #sam winchester #don’t take this too seriously #i’m just talking #adhd things

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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This video is honestly amazing and is something I’ve been saying for years 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️ thank you for posting this

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https://youtu.be/8Bw7nEP1x80

This video shows so much of why I hate Dean a lot and don't understand how people actually think he's this great guy. Like I really don't get how people like him unless their seeing him as an antagonist. It just makes no sense. The begining shows how sexist he is from the beginning of the show and yet people call him a feminist? He constantly abuses sam and Castiel and yet people glorify those relationships? Like how?

#supernatural #anti dean winchester #anti dean stans #and the problem is that people glorify him and act like he's this great person

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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Did any of you ever notice that Dean forces Sam into their hella’ toxic codependent relationship?

I feel like I’m over analyzing it, but the more I watch the show again from how Sam was with dean in the beginning to the end it makes me wonder 💭

#spn #supernatural #dean winchester #sam winchester #analysis #i’m just wondering #anti dean winchester #dean critical

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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Another thing to add about the purgatory thing is

Sam didn’t know Dean or Castiel were in purgatory (who just thinks that when someone explodes they go to purgatory and not death??)

his surrogate father is dead (who was the one with information but all that’s gone now since the house was burned to the ground)

he lost basically everyone, and was still going through the aftermath of the hell stuff

Dean makes no sense, the fandom who supports him make no sense

“You should have looked for me while I was in purgatory”

aka: it’s ok when Dean does it, but when Sam is his own agent he’s always in the wrong

#dean critical #bittersamgirlclub #anti dean winchester #dean negative #anti dean stans

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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what really gets me about sam hate is that 99% of the things he’s hated for, when applied to real life situations, are things that no-one should be hated for. not only that, but hating people for the things that sam is hated for would be considered victim blaming (that’s a mouthful)

hating someone for wanting to go to college and live their own life, instead of the unsafe and dangerous life their parent and sibling want them to live is not okay

hating someone for escaping an abusive household is not okay

hating someone for not trying to contact their family, after said family disowned them for going to college, is not okay

hating someone for having an addiction is not okay

hating someone for keeping something about themself a secret (especially if the person they’re keeping it secret from has previously shown how judgmental they are towards the things they’re hiding) is not okay

hating someone for trusting the wrong person, even tho that person went to extraordinary lengths to gain their trust, is not okay

hating someone for not blindly following their sibling’s every command is not okay

hating someone for unknowingly participating in causing something awful to happen, even tho they thought they were actually stopping the awful thing from happening, (especially when they willingly sacrificed themself and spend several lifetimes suffering in order to fix their mistake) is not okay

hating someone because they respected a mutual agreement and because they tried to move on with their life after losing someone is not okay

hating someone for trying to set boundaries after a person they trusted violated their bodily autonomy and for telling said person that they wouldn’t do the same thing to them is not okay

hating someone for expressing basic human emotions in a way that harms no-one is not okay

hating someone for standing up for themself is not okay

meanwhile 99% of the shit for which dean gets a pass, when applied to real life situations, would horrify any semi decent human being

telling your sibling that they deserved to be abused because they were out of line (in which being out of line actually means “you wanted to live your own life”) is not okay

vilifying someone for something they can’t change about themself is not okay

acting judgmental towards an aspect of someone’s life and then getting mad at them for keeping secrets regarding that same aspect is not okay

using someone’s faith to manipulate them into doing what you want is not okay

getting mad at someone for saving people’s lives, because you don’t like the method they’re using, is not okay

forcing someone into a torture-detox that almost kills them, then stalking them, calling them names, forcing them to choose between blindly following your every command and saving the world and then reducing the whole thing to “you chose someone else over me” is not okay

blaming someone for something you both unknowingly had a hand in, without taking responsibility for your own contribution, is not okay

deliberately hurting someone because their happy memories don’t include you is not okay

erasing someone’s memory without their consent is not okay

making someone’s mental illness all about yourself is not okay

blaming someone because another person cut their arm off (idk, this is the closest real life analogy to the soulless situation I can think of) is not okay

getting mad at someone for honouring a mutual agreement, berating them for leaving a job (a job you yourself had previously left) and going as far as shaming them for doing something as normal as shopping for produce instead of working is not okay

forcing someone to stay in a job they’re unhappy with is not okay

making someone think the person they love is in danger (especially if that someone already has a history of people they care about dying) is not okay

violating someone’s bodily autonomy and tricking them into allowing a foreign being inside their body without their consent, gaslighting them about it for months, making disgusting jokes about said violation, refusing to see the violated person’s point when they’re rightfully upset and not acknowledging that what you did was wrong, even after you went through the same experience, is not okay

telling someone that the upside of them being alive is that you need a sidekick is not okay

telling someone you wish they were dead is not okay

killing an innocent kid because of who their family is is not okay

literally trying to kill your sibling, repeatedly, is not okay (and I can’t believe I actually have to write this because the extents to which people will go to defend dean’s every action is /that/ ridiculous)

having a consistent pattern of doing things that you previously berated other people for doing is not okay

being misogynist, homophobic, ableist and racist because ~that’s just the way you were raised~ is not okay

trying to kill a child, telling said child that you will kill them and emotionally and verbally abusing them to the point of pushing them to self harm, because circumstances regarding their birth led to the death of people you care about and because their biological father is evil (two things they absolutely have no control over) is not okay

threatening a teenage girl with a gun because she doesn’t want to help you is not okay

acting entitled to know every detail about someone else’s life and getting mad at them for keeping secrets about themselves, all while you’re constantly keeping secrets, even about other people, is not okay

anyway my point is: sam hate isn’t actually about his actions, it’s about how the show and dean portray these actions. while dean negativity/hate (as rare as it is) is about his actions being objectively horrid

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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His smiles cure depression 😭❤️

Sam's dimples: reblog if you agree.

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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Dean and his contradictions we’re actually wild

“I want you to get out. I want you to have a life.” But also Sam can only have one after Dean is dead and buried. And well, not even then really, because if Dean happens to come back when Sam thinks he’s dead and Sam wasn’t the one who spent all his time trying to bring him back? That’s a bad thing. And Sam is wrong to do that. But also he needs to get out of hunting and have a life. But also-

#anti dean #dean critical

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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It's been a while since I watched Supernatural, so don't take my opinions as gospel or anything. But I think Dean is self-hating to the point of narcissism in some ways. Don't get me wrong, I empathise with Dean and understand why fans largely do too. But his self-loathing warps his perception and becomes the centre of EVERYTHING and at times that really has ripple effects on those around him - particularly Sam.

Take their childhood, Sam has a right to mourn the fact that he didn't get a normal childhood. He's allowed to be angry that he didn't get a home, a present father, a stable community, and consistent education. But whenever Sam attempts to express his complicated feelings about his childhood, Dean immediately interprets it as ' oh I was supposed to look out for you. Are you saying I failed? Are you confirming I'm worthless?' which grinds the conversation to a complete halt. Because of Dean's intense self-criticism, Sam can never really be 100% honest with him or ask for support with his own issues, especially regarding their childhood. As anything outside of 100% gratitude just becomes another stick for Dean to beat himself with, and the conversation is immediately derailed.

Not only does Deans self-hatred mean that Sam's expression of his own experiences are pretty consistently shut down. In some ways, I think Dean strips Sam of his autonomy - he's so self-loathing, he sees every decision Sam makes as being about/a reaction to him. A good example of this is Stanford. Rather than understanding Stanford for what it was, an attempt by Sam to carve out a better life from himself and escape hunting. Dean views it as betrayal or abandonment, some re-affirmation of his own belief that he's not worth caring about. Rather than understanding it's a rejection of hunting, he sees it as Sam rejecting him. To Dean, Sam isn't attempting to find a better life, he's punishing the family.

Overall, it's interesting that people largely and rightfully sympathise with Dean due to his self-hatred. However, I don't see as much discussion about how his self-hatred doesn't just hurt him, it hurts those he's close to, as it colours his interpretation of their every action. Dean's self-loathing is always the biggest thing in the room and that has consequences.

#dean critical #anti dean

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blue-bells7 · 26 days

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been rewatching supernatural.

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blue-bells7 · 6 months

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Jared carrying Jensen in various Supernatural gag reels (◡‿◡✿)

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