OHHHHHH True !

Kaneki in particular definitely has a habit of getting swept up in unhealthy idealizations of people he sees as strong, who he attributes his strength to, rather than something of his own making (see: not only Arima but also Rize, especially during the original series)

He, like Eto as you said, sees himself as the lowest of the low, yet honors and idolizes people who have hurt him horribly. He carries their image (in both cases very literally (Rize's kagune/mannerisms, Arima's appearance/mannerisms)) and sees them as a rock for his strength.

With all this in mind I could actually see it! While kaneki tends to have these feelings towards real and tangible people in the series, there's no reason why this couldn't apply to a spiritual/religious figure as well. Kaneki being converted into some religion is pretty in-line with behavior/patterns we've seen from him in the past.

Also bonus thing I thought of: Another small funny parallel between Kaneki and Eto is that they are two non-religious (to bar Amon and Donato) characters in TG that make explicit religious references/display specific knowledge Of religion (Eto in the panel you sent references multiple religions and references God himself, Kaneki (while more obscure) shows that he has an above-average (for a non-religious person) understanding of the Bible in the light novels (remembering important terms/names and their meanings not understanding how Hide could mix them up lol, etc. (I feel like there may be more but I can't remember them/might be mixing them up with my own hcs lol)) Kaneki and Eto bible study session when /j

do you think Kaneki might ever pray with Amon despite not being catholic himself? just sitting next to him mumbling the words as Amon says it because he likes to be with him

speaking of religion, what kind of faith do you think Kaneki would follow? I hc him as an atheist :) but I think you know more about religions than me lol

Ooooh I like that idea a lot actually I have So Many Thoughts (rubs my hands together evilly)

also this is just a sidenote but i know some people may be uncomfortable with religious discussion, so if you are lmk and i'll start tagging it :thumbsup:

I feel like Amon hasn't prayed often in a while because of his past, but he may still on occasion (habit), and may get back into it properly after actually resolving his feelings with the past. At some point Kaneki starts to join him. He doesn't really know How to pray, especially since a lot of it is in silence, he probably just kneels there and silently wishes for safety for his friends, for strength and resolve, etc. etc. But when Amon starts saying the actual prayers out loud he just sits there and listens to him quietly saying them.

At some point Kaneki might start mumbling along with them, he vaguely knows some of the prayers and has heard Amon say them enough times to kind of know them. Amon is surprised when Kaneki starts doing that and it just kind of becomes a Thing; maybe Kaneki even asks Amon to tell him how to pray the rosary since he sees him doing that often as well (when the rosary is prayed in a group there's one person leading that says the first half of most of the prayers and the rest say the other half, and I think it would be interesting with them alternating like that)

While Kaneki isn't catholic himself he finds it reassuring, while it's unlikely to him that there's someone out there that'll actually grant his prayers it's a nice thought, y'know? It's also just very relaxing there, even if it was kind of awkward at first

I think he also finds the sound of Amon praying very relaxing *cough*

I also think Kaneki would be atheist, while he wouldn't completely deny the possibility of there being a god of some sort he also isn't really a follower of any particular belief system. I think Amon would know this, and therefore doesn't really know why Kaneki chooses to pray with him despite this, but he figures that Kaneki does have a lot of things he would want to pray for, things he would want to seek forgiveness for, too, and he appreciates that Kaneki is willing to spend time with him like this anyway.

How do you see Sasaki’s first chat with Donato going down now that Amon’s present?

Ooh okay I have a few thoughts about this (I wrote a response for this earlier and then tumblr didn't save the draft *explodes*):

First of all Amon would obviously be super weary of Haise talking to Donato in the first place. He doesn't like the sound or idea of it at all. He's likely already certain that the "Alice" that Donato alluded to all that time ago was Kaneki/Haise, and look where it's gotten him now (wading into dangerous waters about CCG corruption, or really just. Everything about him and 'Eyepatch' in general), and there's no reason to believe he can't cause equal trouble with whatever he tells Haise. He absolutely knows things he Shouldn't, and that's dangerous.

Haise isn't so concerned, however. Donato seems... nice? In his weird, unconventional Donato-way. Donato speaks to him in a very friendly manner, and hears him out (in canon he says "You always help organize my thoughts. I appreciate it..."), obviously with Amon's disdain towards him he didn't really mean to have his guard so low like that, but it ends up happening away, because Donato seems to like Haise and having these conversations to kill the time. And at least he's more helpful about passing on information to Haise anyway. (He also probably occasionally prods Haise for info on how Amon's doing too LOL)

Regarding the fact that Amon was raised by Donato, now that gets complicated. Haise knows, obviously, and he wants to know more, but he likely thinks it both isn't his place to ask more about it and just, is hesitant to for a multitude of reasons. Asking Donato probably feels a bit like an invasion of privacy (if he did ask though, Donato would probably laugh about Amon as a kid, like about his sweet tooth), and obviously that would be a super touchy subject to ask Amon about. Honestly discussion about Donato between them is probably pretty strange in general, considering they both clearly have contrasting feelings about the man (and they're both complicated in their own ways (though Amon's are obviously moreso)). They probably try to keep it professional, discussion just the intel/info that he can give on cases, though maybe a few times Haise asks how Donato is like to other people, or something equally general (since asking why Amon has such disdain for him would be too obvious, and asking about his past upfront would be too direct).

As for Haise and Donato's conversations: Since Amon is here now, Donato obviously doesn't need to tell Haise to seek out a certain ghoul or anything. However, I think he would still be somewhat cryptic about it. Maybe he would hint that the "key" to his memories is much, much closer than he may think. That it's sitting within arm's reach, really, if he so chooses to pick it up and actually try and find out what was in his past. He would probably feed hints that point towards Amon, but leave it up to Haise himself to actually ask/remember anything, he's probably not just gonna spell it out for him. Maybe one day Haise recounts all the inexplicable feelings from his first encounter with Amon to Donato. Maybe Donato tells Haise that Amon may be more important to him than he realizes. Maybe he tells him that it's about time that he tries to figure out why.

can i ask how far you've made it into re? i've been sitting on a response to your old religion ask on kaneki, but it contains spoilers from the end of volume 8

I'm currently on Volume 10 🔥I haven't Finished Volume 10 yet but I Have finished Volume 8, so no worries about spoilers from there :)

iirc you’re more into angst, but Haise would attempt to make Amon doughnuts, wouldn’t he? :0 He’d be a good critic too

YEAHHHHHHHHH I think it would be something Haise would pick up pretty fast (but maybe he would have Amon try his first few attempts and they'd be. Well. Amon says they're good at least but when Haise tried giving Juuzou some he visibly Paled)

Amon would probably just try to be Nice at first until Haise gets a More Reliable Taste-Tester, and then once he starts making donuts that are Pretty Good Actually Amon would give him more constructive criticism to refine them

He thinks that it's very touching that Haise would go out of his way to do something like this, despite the fact that he can't even enjoy the things he makes (All the donut making also certainly would help Haise later with the Quinx Squad, although they are left wondering why he makes donuts so often.... And why they're so sweet)

You know what will be fun when Amon and Sasaki get to hang out as colleagues? Sparring sessions! Because, even if Sasaki doesn't remember ever fighting Amon, his body definitely does, and even though the prosthetic throws him off (maybe he feels too guilty to fight properly at first, and Amon and Akira tell him off for letting his guard down), he and Amon quickly fall into a pattern, and it feels disturbingly natural to read each other's movements. Sasaki doesn't understand why (Amon does or highly suspects), but in contrast to everyone else's instinctual fear of Sasaki when he fights, facing Amon as an equal feels amazing, and it gets even better when they learn to fight as a team. (It also leads to plenty of UST between them, to Amon's eternal mortification, Sasaki's confused embarassment and secret delight, and Kaneki is EXTREMELY conflicted about all this and increasingly jealous.) Akira also feels a complicated mix of wariness (the higher ups like the teamwork but they won't appreciate it if it becomes anything intimate, NO OFFICE ROMANCE WITH THE HALF-GHOUL!), slight jealousy (from her lingering feelings for Amon combined with a growing protectiveness of Sasaki; she tries to repress both feelings) and reluctant amusement (they are both DORKS it's hilarious to watch and they give her so much teasing material, it would be a shame not to use it).

YEAH ALL OF THIS,

Haise probably holds back a bit at first (almost as if he's scared of... something (losing control, like Kaneki was, like Kaneki did)), but like you said he would definitely be told off for it. It's equal parts kinda frightening and impressive to see how in-sync he and Amon seem to be though, whether they're sparrings against each other or fighting as a team. They turn out pretty evenly in terms of who wins, and they coordinate almost scarily well, especially with how they're capable of covering the others' weak points (while it's debatable how many opportunities they do get to fight together specifically, I'd like to think that they've practically saved the other more than once, lol)

Maybe Arima comments on it offhandedly once whlie he and Haise are sparring, to which Haise doesn't really know what to say, he just kinda laughs it off and is like "Yeah, it is strange isn't it?" (Meanwhile, in the background: This is all the more reason why Amon has such an important role in leading the squad if Haise does lose control. This is also all the more reason why it's important that they don't get too close. They make an impressively efficient team and it's quite morale boosting to see how they fight in all honesty, but they're also keeping an eye on them)

Also YEAH they're so awkward at times definitely I think both Akira and Juuzou would poke at them (mostly Amon. Poor guy) for it a lot (I think Juuzou in general takes a lot of enjoyment out of All of this. Especially because HE KNOWS, He knows who Haise is and was also there when Amon let him go at Kanou's Lab when he was Eyepatch, He Knows Everything (and he probably elbows Amon about it a lot (bro has to take a lot of shit for this can you tell LMAO), Amon would probably offer him more of Haise's donuts so he won't try and start rumors or cause trouble about it, though that doesn't stop him from giving Amon "I Know What You Are" looks or saying things that make him want to sink through the Floor), they're both like peak office entertainment to him. Akira, like you said, shares some of that amusement too, she's just far more cautious and weary, and conflicts with some of her other personal feelings. I can imagine a scenario with Juuzou saying something along the linss of "Sasaki and Amon are growing awfully close lately, huh?" and Akira nodding along, with a very subtle grimace)

And then there's poor Kaneki in the background of everything, watching from the shadows, there's probably too many emotions going on for this man to name at this point HAHA

Now that I think about it, in your AmonSasa comics (I LOVE them btw, they are adorable), Amon still has both arms... BUT consider the additional angst if Amon survived but lost his arm? On one hand Kaneki is so relieved Amon is alive, but on the other hand oH No I CuT His ARM OFF! Poor Sasaki has no idea why he simultaneously feels this amount of relief and guilt towards this investigator he just met, oh no, why is he crying, this is so embarrassing... And Amon is just frozen, processing it all.

YEAHHHH When I originally drew the comic I think it slipped my mind, admittedly lol, but I've actually thought about it a lot it

I think, similar to other CCG members that had lost limbs in the Owl Operation (Juuzou, Kuroiwa), Amon would eventually be fitted with a prosthetic. Ooh, maybe when Haise and Amon first meet they shake hands, but when their hands meet and Haise stares down at them his face inexplicably falls. The inexplicable feeling of relief he'd felt (so much that he could almost cry) is suddenly swept up and replaced by guilt (also so much that he could also cry, Kaneki's putting Haise through a rollercoaster).

I'd imagine that Akira's definitely there too, and she asks Haise what's wrong, and oh, god, is he crying? He's holding Amon's hand in a death grip, Amon can't really pull away, but that probably doesn't matter since he's frozen in place anyway. On one hand oh god Haise might know something, or maybe he's making him remember, this is what the CCG was so worried about, and Akira's concerned and maybe she and Amon glance at each other worriedly, and Haise's confused but he's also shaking, it's a Mess of a "reunion"/"meeting".

Haise shakes it off, somehow, and decides to hang around with Amon for a lot of the day. When they're alone he apologizes profusely, says that he doesn't know what came over him, and Amon doesn't really know what to say, if there's anything he can say, poor guy probably just has to do his best to awkwardly reassure him LOL.

Haise probably plays it off casually from there, but he still feels a strange pinch of guilt when he looks at Amon's shoulder, or his arm. Kaneki no doubt feels awful about it, maybe one time Haise apologizes about it (for it?) to Amon. Amon is confused (and worried, about his memories) and Haise snaps out of it and says that he's not really sure why he apologized. Amon feels compelled to think that it wasn't Haise that apologized, but he also doesn't want to think about it.

Oh also some additional thoughts with Haise and Akira (First of all sidenote, someone mentioned in a reply that they were wondering if Sasaki would be mentored with Amon or Akira, I imagine he would still be paired with Akira, for a variety of reasons. Like I said while the CCG thinks Amon would be useful for 'extermination' operations, they aren't very comfortable about him and Haise getting too close, also I feel like since Amon would be promoted (he was promoted to First Class I think? in canon after his 'death') he would be busy with operations for higher ranking investigators, and Akira herself was specifically chosen in canon because of her ability to comfort Haise)

That said I think Akira, already weary, would try to keep the slight fiasco of Amon and Haise's first meeting out of discussion if possible, but one day Haise can't help but ask her about what happened to Amon's arm. Akira probably doesn't know what to answer, maybe keeps it vague, then Haise asks if it's similar to Investigator Juuzou, who lost his leg in the Owl Operation, and she has to swiftly shut him down before he can press further. It's not much, but it's a piece of a clue, something that must connect Haise and Kaneki.

Maybe Haise tries asking Kaneki about it once, though the answer isn't too different from what he says in canon ('It's my fault').

Sorry my brain runs on angst can you tell LOL, Amonhaise can be so silly but they can also be such a somber mess under the right circumstances. I think Haise would be confused and lost about it and how it makes him feel, but it would eventually become a massive tell towards his past. Ough thank you again for the banger ask :pray:

Also, your 'Amon stays in the CCG and works with Haise' AU is fantastic and should have been canon. Poor Amon misses Eyepatch terribly (he still has QUESTIONS damnit!) but doesn't want to get Haise (or Akira) in trouble, so he can't really say much, but he and Haise get suspicious of the CCG being corrupted. They investigate together, but they have to be discreet and they HATE IT, the CCG is supposed to represent justice! Inner!Kaneki drops hints and nags Haise in the background constantly.

YESSSSS GOD AMON AND HAISE NOT INTERACTING IN :RE WAS SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO ME I WAS SO GENUINELY SURPRISED WHEN THEY NEVER DID

In the context of my AU I think Amon would feel so let down by the emergence of the Quinx project. He's spent all this time investigating the CCG's suspicious sides and almost uncovered what they were really aiming to do and then it just gets. Announced, just like that. That they're putting ghoul organs in people to use as weapons. It feels wrong. Everything clicks terribly into place. But he can't say anything. And Eyepatch is gone already (or so he Thinks) It all feels anti-climatic, somehow.

Then he meets this new investigator, who shakes his hand and greets him cheerily. He's being mentored by Akira. They are to treat him as a human unless he loses control, to which they'll treat him as a ghoul. It's Eyepatch. It's Haise Sasaki. Amon has to stomach the thought of both working with him and potentially having to "erase" him if he remembers who he is. He likes Haise, even if he's different from Eyepatch, but Haise might not be around forever, for one reason or another. He's never had to kill a co-worker or friend before. (I think, similar to Akira in canon :re Amon would be assigned a big role in leading squads when the CCG has to keep Haise under control. It only makes sense, he's done significant damage to him before, in half-kakuja form no less, and managed to escape this guy even without a weapon. And he's also like, one of the Only Guys who has ever killed a ghoul with his bare hands before.) Still though, the thought of killing Haise, whether it be with a quinque through the heart or the snap of a neck, is nauseating.

The CCG higher-ups are suspicious, obviously, because Amon is the only one who truly knows Everything about Eyepatch, and he might screw with Haise's memories. They're keeping an eye on him and make sure they don't get too close, unless Amon needs to confront Haise, since Haise, even when losing control, just can't seem to hurt him. Not really at least (if it ever does happen he feels So Guilty) ((Also sidenote but Haise probably visibly winces when he first meets Amon. His head hurts and he's not sure why. He feels melancholic and he doesn't know why. He feels a flood of relief. But he doesn't know why. He likes Amon a lot and wants to get to know him. The white-haired ghoul in his head seems particularly fixated on him, won't stop looking at him. Haise somehow knew Amon's name before he was even told what it was. He surmises that it's just because Amon is so well-known in general. (He knows, deep down, that it might be more than just that)))

Haise has small recollections of memories, but he can't tell anyone, obviously. Sometimes he has nightmares of flower fields and battles under the rain. When he and Amon get closer he tells him a little about them. "It's probably nothing" he laughs, unsure, but Amon knows what they really mean. He sees Eyepatch in Haise and it hurts terribly. He fears the chance that he'll never get to ask the questions he had, almost as much as he fears the chance that one day he suddenly will. The answers he's wanted for so long are so close that they are literally standing right next to him, yet they're so far.

As things move forward they definitely try to investigate and figure out the CCG's corrupt system together. But they have to be careful, on the outside co-workers (including Akira) make comments about how close they are and what a good team they make but within the inner-workings of the CCG they have their careful eyes on them. Maybe Akira's a little weary about it, tells Amon as such sometime and Amon says he knows (but there are things he can't tell even her.) Maybe one time Haise and Amon talk briefly, maybe after or during Haise losing control of himself and he says something and it sounds hauntingly like Eyepatch. Haise had looked at him differently during that moment. His voice sounded different. It was pained, but not in the physical sense. Maybe it wasn't Haise at all, actually.

Haise has a dream once about a man shouting asking him if he really is just a ghoul. Somehow he doesn't feel like it's for him. (But surely it means something to Kaneki Ken). Maybe, like in that comic I drew, Kaneki is incredibly relieved that Amon is alive, but also terribly jealous that all he can do is watch from the shadows LOL

Ough sorry I got SO carried away I've just been meaning to list out some of the details of my AU thoughts for AGES this has been living rent free in my mind for MONTHS it's one of my favorite thoughts Ever

It's insane, how many parallels are setup between Kaneki/Haise and Amon, yet Haise and Amon never meet once, even though Amon is foreshadowed constantly during :re. To be fair there is so much going on in :re already but still, man. Man,

@astravis Yeah I get what you mean! Since the beginning (or at least ever since Amon first admitted he wanted to talk to Kaneki) their proper meeting was always foreshadowed to be something of great importance, but their dynamic and relationship is sort of sidelined, despite the obvious significance that's been placed on their relationship throughout the series. There's so many potential scenarios that could've happened, between both the original series and :re (what if they met again after Kanou's lab, what if Amon properly met Haise, hell, what if they just met again sooner before the Aogiri raid, what if Amon met Reaperneki even, etc. etc. etc.) , but ofc it's up to us to make those happen at this point lol

Also yeah, same boat as you, I have so many ideas but I have neither the time energy nor commitment to actually fully flesh them out :') (see: all of my rambling posts) Be the change you want to see in the world and all that but also... why writing so hard.....

Hi! Hope you're well and I'm not bothering you, fellow Amoneki fan here! I read 'Tokyo Ghoul' long ago, dropped ':Re' midway through (got spoilt since), but recently had a SEVERE Amoneki relapse (I don't know WHY, it's been almost a decade; but this ship is still so good actually). So I just wanted to let you know: I am extremely grateful for your blog, I feel less silly for my hyperfixation now. Might ramble more about them later in your inbox if that's okay with you. Either way, thank you!

(Sorry for the late response Tumblr tried to eat the notif for this ask but it didn't get past me LMAO)

Also LOL You and Me anon we have the same tg experience (to be fair I Do plan to finish :re I've just been focusing more on school lately and I've had to put my fixation on the backburner :') )

BUT YEAHHHHH I'm so glad you decided to drop by, it's kind of heartwarming to think that even after almost a decade you'd return to this ship (like, even though I missed the majority of the fandom by Quite a Few Years there's still people out there that are insane for the same things I am :))) I just think that's kinda Cool ) Honestly when I first started this blog I myself felt super silly and embarrassed for my hyperfixation but since having such nice interactions from the fandom I've learned that I can simply ramble to my heart's content actually, which is super neat 👍👍👍

That said IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO RAMBLE ABOUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEAAAAASE DO THEY'RE SO INTERESTING TO ME AND I LOVE DISCUSSION AND I LOVE INTERACTION (and I love asks :)c) ((not to mention, with said "putting interests on the backburner" I haven't been having a lot of time for any Profound Amoneki Thoughts, so I'd love to hear yours <33)

Previous Anon here: Amoneki allegory! Kaneki struggles with new cravings he sees as monstrous, and feels like he doesn't belong anywhere. Amon was raised by a priest who preys on children; he becomes a cop who fights against 'evil.' Then he meets this young man, who clearly wants him (NOM!) but doesn't mean him harm. For the first time, Kaneki feels like being a half-ghoul could be good if this man accepts him, and wow, yeah, Amon REALLY wants to see him again actually... Mutual bi awakening? 8)

YEAHHH THE MUTUAL BI AWAKENING YOU'RE A GENIUS

I've definitely said this before and I'll say it again but Amon totally fell harder, the sheer amount that his character was shaken by his encounters with Kaneki, no matter how few, cannot be understated (I almost found it funny, when even well into :re he was still remembering the same fights with Kaneki, over and over), bro probably thinks he's normal about it like "Yeah of Course I want to see this ghoul again and talk with him about how his worldview has fundamentally changed the worldviews that I have stubbornly held onto for basically my entire life" but if you told Anyone else the details (who wouldn't get his ass for being affiliated (kinda) with a ghoul) they'd give him The Look. (read: He has a not-so thinly veiled crush the closet has suddenly turned to Glass), absolute awakening even if he doesn't realize it (although of course he has to conceal it because having a relationship with a ghoul or just not even hating them is bad and wrong in tg and all that, which could tie into your allegory actually maybe if you think about it)

And then of course Kaneki; in my hc he'd probably have had some Funny Bi Thoughts or at least considered that he Could be bi earlier on (he is not as blind as amon godbless) but Amon Totally contributed (unfortunately by then Kaneki was kinda busy with, you know, changing the world and saving his friends and everything) but it's not like he doesn't hold him to great importance either, with the way that he sincerely wants to save him and the way he painfully remembers him during Haise's time in :re (sidenote but Kaneki's line to Haise "Why do you want to know… about Eyepatch and… Koutarou Amon?" killed me for some reason something something implied closeness/importance even though they only met so many times Aughhhh)

Sorry I kinda started rambling LOL but yes I second this Completely thank you for your wisdom anon 🙏🙏🙏

Hi! Hope you're well and I'm not bothering you, fellow Amoneki fan here! I read 'Tokyo Ghoul' long ago, dropped ':Re' midway through (got spoilt since), but recently had a SEVERE Amoneki relapse (I don't know WHY, it's been almost a decade; but this ship is still so good actually). So I just wanted to let you know: I am extremely grateful for your blog, I feel less silly for my hyperfixation now. Might ramble more about them later in your inbox if that's okay with you. Either way, thank you!

(Sorry for the late response Tumblr tried to eat the notif for this ask but it didn't get past me LMAO)

Also LOL You and Me anon we have the same tg experience (to be fair I Do plan to finish :re I've just been focusing more on school lately and I've had to put my fixation on the backburner :') )

BUT YEAHHHHH I'm so glad you decided to drop by, it's kind of heartwarming to think that even after almost a decade you'd return to this ship (like, even though I missed the majority of the fandom by Quite a Few Years there's still people out there that are insane for the same things I am :))) I just think that's kinda Cool ) Honestly when I first started this blog I myself felt super silly and embarrassed for my hyperfixation but since having such nice interactions from the fandom I've learned that I can simply ramble to my heart's content actually, which is super neat 👍👍👍

That said IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO RAMBLE ABOUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEAAAAASE DO THEY'RE SO INTERESTING TO ME AND I LOVE DISCUSSION AND I LOVE INTERACTION (and I love asks :)c) ((not to mention, with said "putting interests on the backburner" I haven't been having a lot of time for any Profound Amoneki Thoughts, so I'd love to hear yours <33)

i can't fix him but i can be his narrative foil and challenge him in every way possible, occupying his every waking thought

do you think this could be a Kaneki thing to say

LMAO YEAH

Kaneki is Amon's faith. Ever since Amon simply decided to believe that the world was just Wrong Kaneki has been the only break he's gotten from this cycle and he holds onto that So Tightly

Amon has faith in Kaneki in a way that should be borderline Blind for an investigator , when you think about it objectively he really doesn't have that much justification for thinking this wasn't just a Typical Ghoul Backstab when he saw Kaneki eating Shinohara at Kanou's lab, seeing as he'd only seen Kaneki twice and once was like a 5 second encounter 20 feet away

But he held onto that faith anyway, he holds onto that faith and the idea of his 'purity' (that Kaneki can't be/isn't a Murderer, despite the evidence of his brutal actions towards ghouls) even after Kaneki almost kills him in a way that should feel traitorous and contradictory to what he saw at the lab, something that should've proved that Yes actually Kaneki Could and would hurt a human like any other ghoul could, which should technically prove Amon's previous notion that he isn't just another ghoul Wrong (I like clowning on Amon for this so much but also Genuinely Amon what is Up with you. Maybe it's the blood loss maybe it's the shock maybe it's Something Else)

While it's usually Kaneki clinging to Amon's words in the original series, Amon also preaches Kaneki's words, telling Saiko not to be a murderer, likely carrying it as his mantra as he struggles to survive as a ghoul cannibalizing, it's His principles and methods that he sticks to to not lose his own purity and also his own god damn Mind

"turn a man away from god" Right because this should all be contradictory actually because the ghouls are supposed to be the demons here. and yet. And Yet,

hmghsgsdfhblsdjfbhh. I wasn't supposed to go that in-detail I got carried away point is yes he so would say this and also this is Hilarious I love it

you’ve been gone for two weeks, did something happen? :(

not meaning to intrude btw

DW YOU'RE ALL GOOD !!

I was actually thinking of making a post about this because I also realized it's been a while; basically school has been kicking my ass Hard lately, so I haven't really had time to indulge in my tg hyperfixation (I even had to put another pause on reading the manga, even now I'm only typing this after finishing an essay draft orz)

Not to mention I've been getting slightly sidetracked with another hyperfixation, though with all the work I've been swamped with I haven't really had much time for content making either way, and I apologize greatly for that !! There are Ideas I've been wanting to get to all this time, I just need to take some time to really crackdown on my schoolwork, but once I get through it I'll be back on my bullshit /threat don't worry LOL

:0 I never thought I'd see an active amoneki fan in 2024 I'm so happy you're doing good work

Yeah !!! Honestly I thought I'd never see one either, which is why I made this blog :)) (to find any of the remaining ones left orz)

Happy to see another fan here 🫡

YOU ALSO GET IT !!!

I totally forgot about how this could tie with the ccg too !! they paint themselves as righteous and just, and you could make a connection with their motif as a dove with how it's also a religious symbol for peace and righteousness, yet their acts against ghouls achieve anything but that. they think they have the right to pass judgement on their lives (or the fact that they even are alive), and cover up their sin with a mask of purity (and the way ghouls call them 'doves' is in a derogatory sense, poking at this irony of using this symbol of peace to disguise corruption and sin and hypocrisy)

ALSO I REALLY LIKE YOUR IDEA WITH THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS I think a Lot of characters throughout the series could be categorized into them and it is extremely interesting to think about I love it I am shaking your hand and nodding my head so fast YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND

Continuing on the religion thoughts/rambles

I just think that a really interesting comparison could be made between ghouls and needing to eat human flesh/blood and like communion/the eucharist?? Like hear me out,

You could probably already draw the connection with people having to eat the actual body and blood of christ and ghouls needing to human flesh. There's also the fact that this practice is an actual necessity for ghouls, like they depend on it to live, as it's the only thing they can consume that'll actual sustain them (unlike coffee), which makes it sacred in a way (not to mention ghouls treat humans/human bodies in a special way that doesn't translate to humans, for example donato mentions how they view the head as the "centerpiece" of a meal, and it is a special part of ghoul meals, we see Yomo put his hands together and bow his head before collecting corpses, the way Shuu acts about his gourmet meals sometimes (also reminding me of a line I saw once in a tg fic, "Not the blood of Christ but certainly the blood of someone else"), etc., just the way that (by some at least) it's held in high honor, and it is a sacrifice).

There's also the fact that hunger will drive ghouls to insanity (and cannibalism still slowly eats away at their minds), the only way they can be "saved" from this fate is consuming human flesh

There's this one verse; John 6:53 that has multiple variations but generally goes “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood, there is no life in you" While it can be very symbolic in the context of religion for ghouls it would be very literal, as they have no choice but to consume the body and blood of humans or they slowly and painfully die

Just. Something something comparison between ghouls eating humans and communion, something something corruption of religious ideas because the lives of ghouls and their need to kill and feed off of humans is regarded as a sin/sinful. Does this make sense.

Ummm I was gonna try and fit that in with amoneki but I ran out of thought juice orz. Tbf I think this kind of connection/irony would definitely not be lost to Kaneki, I think he'd have some interesting thoughts on that as well I just forgot where I was going with this :skull:

Little funfact, what you described Kaneki as would be called agnostic! The belief that you can't prove god's existence or basically "I'm neutral" lmao

Ohhh good to know! After posting I thought there might've been a different term for what I described but I forgot what it was; thanks for letting me know :))

PREV SORRY FOR THE TAG REPOST JUMPSCARE BUT YOU GET IT YOU FUCKING GET IT THESE ADDITIONS ARE SO GOOD

'In order to remain holy they must act sinfully. To live is to be wrong' EXACTLYYY THIS LITERALLY THIS

'Kaneki wishes to stay holy and innocent so he diverts his diet in a way. But in doing this he is longer eating the body of Christ. To do so fills him with guilt because how can he touch the body of a being so great?' IDK HOW TO DESCRIBE IT BUT THIS PART IN PARTICULAR IS MAKING ME SO INSANE THE. YEAH. YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDING ITCHES MY BRAIN /POS I LOVE IT

I might have more thoughts later. ... but grusdihodjcibisbthis makes me so insane I am so insane I'm Normal thank you for sharing your thoughts imshgjbk 🙏🙏🙏

Continuing on the religion thoughts/rambles

I just think that a really interesting comparison could be made between ghouls and needing to eat human flesh/blood and like communion/the eucharist?? Like hear me out,

You could probably already draw the connection with people having to eat the actual body and blood of christ and ghouls needing to human flesh. There's also the fact that this practice is an actual necessity for ghouls, like they depend on it to live, as it's the only thing they can consume that'll actual sustain them (unlike coffee), which makes it sacred in a way (not to mention ghouls treat humans/human bodies in a special way that doesn't translate to humans, for example donato mentions how they view the head as the "centerpiece" of a meal, and it is a special part of ghoul meals, we see Yomo put his hands together and bow his head before collecting corpses, the way Shuu acts about his gourmet meals sometimes (also reminding me of a line I saw once in a tg fic, "Not the blood of Christ but certainly the blood of someone else"), etc., just the way that (by some at least) it's held in high honor, and it is a sacrifice).

There's also the fact that hunger will drive ghouls to insanity (and cannibalism still slowly eats away at their minds), the only way they can be "saved" from this fate is consuming human flesh

There's this one verse; John 6:53 that has multiple variations but generally goes “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood, there is no life in you" While it can be very symbolic in the context of religion for ghouls it would be very literal, as they have no choice but to consume the body and blood of humans or they slowly and painfully die

Just. Something something comparison between ghouls eating humans and communion, something something corruption of religious ideas because the lives of ghouls and their need to kill and feed off of humans is regarded as a sin/sinful. Does this make sense.

Ummm I was gonna try and fit that in with amoneki but I ran out of thought juice orz. Tbf I think this kind of connection/irony would definitely not be lost to Kaneki, I think he'd have some interesting thoughts on that as well I just forgot where I was going with this :skull: