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velaryon (n.) - blood of old valyria, lord of the tides, master of driftmark; mine
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Alyn Velaryon, the bastard born of Mouse, was formally installed as Lord of the Tides and Master of Driftmark.
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Alyn Velaryon & Lyonel Hightower
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Seasmoke, who had once borne Laenor Velaryon, took onto his back a boy of ten-and-five known as Addam of Hull.
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sooooo I think Aurane will join Aegon first and later join Daenerys. I don’t think he will sit and wait for her while Aegon and company take over. thoughts?
Yeah possibly. Daenerys still has her whole arc in Essos to finish (Dothraki/Slaver’s Bay/Volantis/maybe Pentos/maybe Braavos). That’ll take at least half or one-third of TWOW. I don’t see her getting to Westeros until end of TWOW or beginning of ADOS. Meanwhile, Aegon has already begun his war campaign in Westeros. He’s a likelier candidate for Aurane to support (though his talk of dragons does suggest he was hoping that Daenerys would be the Targaryen claimant taking over Westeros). But the dragonless Targaryen will have to do in the meantime.
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What do you think that Aurane would’ve done if Cersei had agreed to give him Dragonstone? In that case, he can’t steal the entire fleet and fuck off. would he just stay as lord of dragonstone?
This is kind of hard to say because from the very beginning Aurane comes off as someone who was planning on leaving with the fleet. So even if he secured Dragonstone for himself, I doubt that would confirm his allegiance to the Lannister regime. He might bide his time as Lord of Dragonstone until some better opportunity presented itself. Since Aurane kept bringing up the topic of dragons in AFFC, I think he would declare for either Aegon or Daenerys and offer up Dragonstone to the Targaryen claimant as a way to ingratiate himself with them.
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Addam & Ben // Instagram AU
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ADDAM & CORLYS - Longing for Something and Taking the Fall Together
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I’ve never thought about the possibility that Marilda and Rhaenys may have looked similar but now it’s all I can think about
That headcanon of mine is actually just going off the copious amounts of parallels between Alyn and Corlys. Since Alyn’s wife and mistress were both willful Targaryen princesses with short hair, I figured maybe Corlys’ wife and mistress could have some things in common as well, such as their appearance. Whether that’s because Marilda is a Targaryen dragonseed or descended from a Baratheon bastard (Rhaenys’ grandfather Rogar Baratheon was known to sleep around a lot even during his marriage to Alyssa Velaryon) or their physical resemblance is completely coincidental, it would be an interesting connection. Not to mention, both Rhaenys and Marilda were said to be around 16 years old at the time their relationship with Corlys began.
Also, I do think Corlys loved Rhaenys a lot, and yet he did cheat on her. So if the cheating happened with a woman who somewhat resembles his wife when she was younger, then it does help to explain his actions (though it obviously doesn’t excuse it).
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The Lord of the Tides
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The future's in our hands and we will never be the same again.
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My most deranged Loras theory is that him and Aurane are fucking nasty style and that's why he lied to cersei
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Alyn with Corlys
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When it comes to the Driftmark succession, of the three bastard Velaryon heirs, the scale from pawn to player goes as follows: Luke -> Addam -> Alyn
The matter of the succession is decided for Luke by the adults in his life. That's understandable because he is a child so his views on such matters wouldn't really be taken into consideration. On Luke's part, he shows a preference for his Targaryen side and its Corlys who has to remind him he is a Velaryon:
His brother Lucerys agreed, insisting that he and Jace were men, or near enough to make no matter. “Our uncle calls us Strongs, but when the lords see us on dragonback they will know that for a lie. Only Targaryens ride dragons.” Mushroom tells us that the Sea Snake grumbled at this, insisting that the three boys were Velaryons, yet he smiled as he said it, with pride in his voice.
Because of the rumors surrounding his parentage, Luke obviously feels more certainty with his mother's Targaryen identity over the ambiguous identity of his Velaryon father. His own mother advocated for him as the heir to Driftmark and his Velaryon grandfather did eventually accept that despite his initial reluctance. So Luke may chafe against it but he doesn't argue with the path that's been decided for him. Though it's clear he and Rhaenyra/Corlys do not see eye to eye on the matter.
Addam falls in the middle of the pawn/player spectrum because even though it's still Corlys making the decisions, Addam is very willingly going along with him. He claimed Seasmoke, who previously belonged to his legal father, Laenor, clearly as a way to connect to his Velaryon side. Addam is ready to embrace his identity as a Velaryon and fully committed to his sense of duty to his family. This time though, its Rhaenyra who is reluctant about the situation. She does eventually come around (after Jace's interference):
Not long after Addam of Hull had proved himself by flying Seasmoke, Lord Corlys went so far as to petition Queen Rhaenyra to remove the taint of bastardy from him and his brother. When Prince Jacaerys added his voice to the request, the queen complied. Addam of Hull, dragonseed and bastard, became Addam Velaryon, heir to Driftmark.
For much of the war, there's political tension between Corlys and Rhaenyra. This strife between them has been simmering under the surface even before the war. As Corlys' heir, Addam remains caught in the middle.
The final heir, and the one who eventually succeeds to the Driftwood Throne, is Alyn. He is the one who was never truly a pawn. Part of that is of course because his role in the succession occurs after both Rhaenyra and Corlys have died. While Corlys' impact is still felt since he is the one who named Alyn as heir to Driftmark, the political decisions made to solidify the succession are done so by Alyn himself:
Ser Vaemond’s sons Daemion and Daeron took their claim to the council in King’s Landing. When the Hand and the regents ruled against them, they wisely chose to accept the decision and be reconciled with Lord Alyn, who rewarded them with lands on Driftmark on the condition that they contribute ships to his fleet.
Alyn does seem to exhibit complicated feelings about Corlys, but when it comes to the family succession, he ultimately embraces his role as the new head of house Velaryon. Not only is Alyn explicitly described as wanting the same things Corlys wants, but he emulates his actions to match him too.
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CORLYS + RHAENYRA - Power Dynamics
There is a constant power fluctuation that happens between these two, both before the Dance and for its duration. They each have an advantage over each other: Rhaenyra is the Crown Princess/Queen and Corlys is the richest man in Westeros. It's because of these factors they can exert influence over each other. Though it's worth mentioning that they only act when the other is in a vulnerable state.
The first instance is in deciding the names of Rhaenyra's sons with Laenor. Jacaerys & Lucerys are given Velaryon names because Corlys decides it and Joffrey is only given a non-Velaryon name because Corlys relents to Laenor's wishes. Rhaenyra has no say in this matter and it is Corlys' will that rules here:
Laenor’s wish to name the child Joffrey was overruled by his father, Lord Corlys. Instead the child was given a traditional Velaryon name: Jacaerys (friends and brothers would call him Jace).
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Meanwhile, back in Westeros, Princess Rhaenyra had given birth to a second son late in the year 115 AC. The child was named Lucerys (Luke for short).
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In 117 AC, on Dragonstone, Princess Rhaenyra bore yet another son. Ser Laenor was at last permitted to name a child after his fallen friend, Ser Joffrey Lonmouth.
I say this because the book specifically emphasizes when Rhaenyra finally does have a say in deciding the name for her child:
As the year waned, she brought forth a small but robust son, a pale princeling with dark purple eyes and pale silvery hair. She named him Aegon.
Rhaenyra's first three sons are bastards and she would be well aware that she needs to appease Corlys in order to have him accept her sons as Velaryons, so the choice of the boys' names is left to him.
There's a lot more political tension underlying their dynamic when it comes to the Driftmark sucession.
When Lucerys was around 11 years old, Corlys fell ill from a fever. Up until this point, Corlys had not named any of Laenor's sons by Rhaenyra as heir to Driftmark. As I've mentioned before, Corlys is the type who views being a Velaryon as separate from the position of family heir. Although his grandchildren have already been betrothed to each other by this point, it's not a firm solution to the problem of the family succession in Corlys' eyes. This is evidenced by the fact that Rhaenyra has to go out of her way to request Corlys to name her son as heir:
That same year, across Blackwater Bay, the Sea Snake was stricken by a sudden fever. As he took to his bed, surrounded by maesters, the issue arose as to who should succeed him as Lord of the Tides and Master of Driftmark should the sickness claim him. With both his trueborn children dead, by law his lands and titles should pass to his eldest grandson, Jacaerys…but since Jace would presumably ascend the Iron Throne after his mother, Princess Rhaenyra urged her good-father to name instead her second son, Lucerys. Lord Corlys also had half a dozen nephews, however, and the eldest of them, Ser Vaemond Velaryon, protested that the inheritance by rights should pass to him…on the grounds that Rhaenyra’s sons were bastards sired by Harwin Strong. The princess was not slow in answering this charge. She dispatched Prince Daemon to seize Ser Vaemond, had his head removed, and fed his carcass to her dragon, Syrax.
Rhaenyra is able to exert her will here, through threat of force, and does seem to have succeeded in getting Corlys' to agree with her wishes. Once again, I'll emphasize that Rhaenyra and Corlys are able to act upon their wishes when the other is in a state of vulnerability.
After Rhaenys' death, Corlys is quite furious with Rhaenyra. It is Jacaerys who works to appease him this time (acting in place of his mother). Corlys is named to the position of Hand and when the Red Sowing occurs shortly afterwards, he brings Addam/Alyn forth to claim dragons. Just going off the timeline of events, it's clear that "Laenor's bastards" was part of the conditions promised to Corlys to retain his loyalty. No doubt, it is also the reason why Jacaerys is so willing to speak up for Addam as the new heir to Driftmark, knowing full well that the next in line would have been his own brother, Joffrey. I've already talked about the politics at play in deciding the succession between Addam vs Joffrey, so I'm not going to get too into that. Though it's worth mentioning that Rhaenyra only agreed to the succession change after Jacaerys urged her to do so. Meaning she must have been reluctant at first:
Not long after Addam of Hull had proved himself by flying Seasmoke, Lord Corlys went so far as to petition Queen Rhaenyra to remove the taint of bastardy from him and his brother. When Prince Jacaerys added his voice to the request, the queen complied. Addam of Hull, dragonseed and bastard, became Addam Velaryon, heir to Driftmark.
Speaking of Rhaenyra's reluctance, it makes sense why she would feel that way. It does not matter that Laenor was gay and neither he nor Rhaenyra had an interest in each other. What matters is the public perception of events. Rhaenyra was Laenor's legal wife. Marilda is claimed to be his mistress. It is Marilda's bastard son that is being placed ahead of Rhaenyra's son who is called trueborn. For any noblewoman, this would be an unthinkable turn of events. In Rhaenyra's case, she's not just any noblewoman, but a Queen. Nevertheless, she must swallow her pride and agree with what Corlys wants. Despite taking action to ensure the succession in favor of Lucerys, Rhaenyra does not do the same for Joffrey. Corlys is the one who holds the power now and Rhaenyra must bend to his will.
It is explicitly mentioned that everyone in Rhaenyra's court plays along with the story that Addam/Alyn are Laenor's bastards. Why? To appease Corlys of course:
Many and more at Queen Rhaenyra’s court must surely have suspected the same. If so, they held their tongues.
Throughout most of the war, it is Corlys that is able to exert power over Rhaenyra, even in matters concerning the succession of other houses. And so it is Corlys' authority that Rhaenyra has to obey, because she cannot risk losing his support, or that of other such lords:
Their deaths left her with a nettlesome problem of succession, however. As it happened, each of the “faithless friends” left a daughter; Rosby’s was a maid of twelve, Stokeworth’s a girl of six. Prince Daemon proposed that the former be wed to Hard Hugh the blacksmith’s son (who had taken to calling himself Hugh Hammer), the latter to Ulf the Sot (now simply Ulf White), keeping their lands black whilst suitably rewarding the seeds for their valor in battle.
But the Queen’s Hand argued against this, for both girls had younger brothers. Rhaenyra’s own claim to the Iron Throne was a special case, the Sea Snake insisted; her father had named her as his heir. Lords Rosby and Stokeworth had done no such thing. Disinheriting their sons in favor of their daughters would overturn centuries of law and precedent, and call into question the rights of scores of other lords throughout Westeros whose own claims might be seen as inferior to those of elder sisters.
It was fear of losing the support of such lords, Munkun asserts in True Telling, that led the queen to decide in favor of Lord Corlys rather than Prince Daemon.
That's not to say, Rhaenyra is entirely powerless. As the Queen, she does have the final say in matters. Especially in discussions concerning the Greens, it is Rhaenyra's decision ultimately to decide what is to be done. Of course, she does hear Corlys out first before making her decisions:
The Lannisters and Baratheons should be destroyed as well, so their lands and castles might be given to men who had proved more loyal. Grant Storm’s End to Ulf White and Casterly Rock to Hard Hugh Hammer, the prince proposed…to the horror of the Sea Snake. “Half the lords of Westeros will turn against us if we are so cruel as to destroy two such ancient and noble houses,” Lord Corlys said.
It fell to the queen herself to choose between her consort and her Hand. Rhaenyra decided to steer a middle course.
One of the descriptions that GRRM himself gave for Rhaenyra is that she never forgets a slight. So I do think part of the reason she was quick to believe the worst of Addam is because the circumstances in which he became heir to Driftmark were already a huge insult to her. The book doesn't mention whether it was Rhaenyra or Corlys that had Addam residing at the Dragonpit but the fact that he was kept out of her sight is an interesting detail. When Addam is suspected of treason, it does give Rhaenyra an opportunity to let out her own grievances.
Corlys and Rhaenyra can't really be described as being particularly fond of each other. However, they do share grandchildren/children in common, and it's obvious they care about them. So it would make sense to say Corlys and Rhaenyra tolerate each other and keep their personal grievances mostly to themselves. Corlys' outburst after Rhaenys death in which he was very quick to wish death upon Rhaenyra certainly says a lot about his own opinions though. But most of their actions are them trying to play nice with each other.
Rhaenyra's exercise of power is almost limited (part of that does have to do with her position as a woman trapped in a war because her authority was questioned on account of her womanhood). Corlys is a man and a wealthy noble too, so he can use that to his advantage many times. Rhaenyra as a woman does have to appease him for this reason. But since she is a Queen too, she can exert her own will if she chooses to do so, even if doing so means risking losing Corlys' support.
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Queen Rhaenys Targaryen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm.
here is book Rhaenys, who became queen! i thought between the crown of Aegon and Jaehaerys for her, but eventually chose the book version of Aegons crown.
(i used eva green as reference, i think shes great for younger Rhaenys)
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