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I mean i get this and i do agree with it but my thing is, we mostly only ever see him having those really strong reactions with Jimin and not much of everyone else and it’s true that Jimin’s way of showing affection could be “too much” sometimes but there are moments when you see Jimin only putting his arm around Jungkook or trying to put an arm on his shoulder or pat his head which isn’t anything “too much” in my opinion but we see Jk stiffening up or looking uneasy. He doesn’t act like this with the other members though. When he isn’t in the mood to be touched by the other members, he removes himself or removes them from himself but you can clearly tell that he just doesn’t want to be touched at the moment but it’s different with Jimin. He starts looking really stiff, uneasy or even u comfortable at the slighest touch. I’ve never seen Jk look that way with any other members touch.

At first glance, you would think he probably doesn’t like being touched by Jimin or maybe Jimin makes him a lil uncomfortable but we all know that you don’t initiate touches with someone whose touch makes you uncomfortable. You don’t slip your hands into the shirt of someone who makes u uncomfortable to caress bare skin, you don’t lick the palm of someone whose touch makes you uncomfortable. You don’t go to cuddle someone whose touch u don’t like in their sleep. You just don’t do stuff like that. So I don’t think it’s that Jk is more comfortable with physical affection when he gives it (could be to a certain extent) but i think it is a Jimin thing. There is a reason why he reacts that way to Jimin and almost always him. Looking at things from all angles, it definitely isn’t because he hates being touched by Jimin, or doesn’t like Jimin near him or all of the other crap pple come up with. I think it is because he is always too aware of Jimin’s touches and why should he be if Jimin is just another hyung to him? He doesn’t have any problems with Hobi hugging him and dotting on him, he doesn’t have any problems with Namjoon putting his arms around him, he has no issues with Tae running his hands through his hair, he has no issues with Jin backhugging him and leaning again him. Most times you clearly see that he isn’t even thinking about what the others are doing on him but the moment he spots Jimin’s hand moving towards him from his peripheral view, he immediately starts looking visible tense or uneasy. It is so painfully obvious and i guess that is why many people think he hates Jimin or Jimin makes him uncomfortable. Notice how no one ever says another member makes Jungkook uncomfortable? So my question is, why is so concious of Jimin’s touches or his affection? Why does he mostly do this only with Jimin even though Hobi and TH are almost as touchy as Jimin is? Also we know that Jimin is incredibly emotional intelligent and Jk himself has spoken endlessly about how considerate and thoughtful Jimin is. Jk himself also mentioned during Festa 2016 that Jimin is very good at leaving u alone when you tell him once or twice that you are not in the mood, but TH is the one who comes back to bug you 30 times. This means that Jimin understands when to let go and he understands boundaries and Jk himself confirms that he does. So if his actions really made Jungkook uncomfortable, wouldn’t he have stopped? He most definitely sees and knows how Jk reacts to his touches but he has been the exact same way for over a decade. So don’t you think this is something he would have fixed if it really bothered Jk?

The way i see things, it is either Jimin continous doing what he does because he knows Jk doesn’t really mind and probably understands why Jk reacts like that, or he just doesn’t care about Jk’s feelings or boundaries and you and I know that is not who Jimin is. Jimin wouldn’t have ever called Jimin considerate and thoughtful if Jimin wasn’t considerate of his feelings or invaded his personal space against his will. He wouldn’t hv said Jimin is good at leaving you alone when you are not in the mood if Jimin didn’t.

I think Jk acts that way with Jimin because he simply doesn’t have the same relationship with Jimin that he does with the other members. I think he acts that way because with Jimin he has something to hide whereas he has nothing to hide with the other members so he doesn’t overthink when they are being physically affectionate because he knows there is nothing more to it, whereas with Jimin, he is probably always subconsciously conscious of the fact that the touches aren’t always innocent. It’s like when you have nothing to hide, you wouldn’t be scared if you are visited by the police but the story is different when you have skeletons in your cupboard. This would also explain the awkwardness almost everyone can feel when watching Jikook interactions. Awkwardness that shouldn’t exist if these two are only friends. Think about that moment when Jk stopped by during Jimin’s documentary Live. This are two people who had just applied for the buddy system together. They had just filmed a travel show together so what reason was there to justify all that awkwardness we all felt in the two minutes they interacted? Compare that to Tae joining Jk and Suga when he was filming suchwita. No awkwardness at all but just three people who have known each other for over 10 years sitting, eating and chatting together and it would have been the same way if it were any other members. That is what you should expect. The only other reason why there should be any kind of awkwardness is if there had been some tension or maybe if they both were not in a very good place in their friendship (like what we experienced with taekook in that Live in 2020) bit we know that this wasn’t the case with jikook because they literally filmed a show together just about two months prior, and now we know that at that time they had already applied to be buddies so why were they so shifty around each other? Someone watching them for the first time would never guess these two had known each other for over a decade.

I don’t really pay alot of attention to all shipper analysis and moments but this to me is the biggest reason i firmly believe that Jimin and Jk don’t have the same relationship with each other as they do with the others.

“I mean i get this and i do agree with it but my thing is, we mostly only ever see him having those really strong reactions with Jimin and not much of everyone else”

I’m going to focus on this part because it encapsulates my general feelings on this: You’re delving into a kind of discourse where, if I had the interest and effort to devote to it, I’d actually explore this because there are a lot of things to say regarding the nature of their relationship, individual personalities, and how physical affection plays into it, and why I think it differs compared to the others.

Short answer: I do think that this plays into their dynamic, and it involves some theory that angles towards something more ship-centric on my part. But it would be of dissertation-sized proportions, and I don’t have that kind of time or interest. Suffice to say, it’d be an interesting look if I did. But that’s old TAJ, and she’s dead now lol.

I don’t understand why there are all these arguments about enlistment and special forces. This is what we know, the other 5 members who don’t have visible tattoos were probably the only ones able to choose where they really wanted to go but jikook had limitations because of their tattoos so we know their options were somewhat limited.

I think if they had their way both Jimin and Jungkook would have wanted to join the special forces too. Jimin didn’t say anything about it so we don’t know what he thought about the whole thing. Also, Jk mentioning on that Live that he wanted to do Special Forces might not have been serious as many are making it out to be. Let me explain. Back in 2022, before the members got their friendship tattoos, Taehyung mentioned in one of his Lives that he didn’t want to get the tattoo in a exposed body part because that could interfere with some jobs in the military. We also found out recently that BTS members had actually planned to enlist sometime in 2020 before the pandemic hit so what this means is, they all were well aware of the rules and how tattoos could affect what they wanted to do. Taehyung literally mentioned it and it seems like he already had plans about where he wanted to enlist seeing as he made sure not to get his tattoo in an exposed part of his body. This would mean Jk was aware too right? He knew yet he still got tattoos on his arms and added the one behind his ear. What this tells me is that, he might have choosen the special forces if he could but it wasn’t something that was very important to him like it was to Taehyung who literally made sure he didn’t get tattoo in an exposed body part. It’s kinda like you having apples and oranges and maybe naturally you would prefer oranges but u don’t really care if you get apples. It wasn’t a priority for Jungkook imo.

Also, if you watch that Live, you notice that he mentioned the special forces thing after Tae was done talking about his SDT plan and how he had set goals for himself so i am more inclined to think that it was a spur of the moment thing for Jk and not something he had been antagonizing over. You know how you can see a friend eating brown chocolate when you have white chocolate and in that moments the brown chocolate looks really good and you say you want brown chocolate. It’s not necessarily that the brown chocolate is really important to you and all you want, it might just be that in that moment, the idea of having brown chocolate seemed really cool. Jk literally applied for the buddy system month in advance with Jimin and few days before their enlistment he blurts “i want to do special forces” after Tae talks about his plans. Doesn’t this sound to you like someone just finding something cool in the moment? It’s really not that deep. Yes Jk would have probably really liked the special forces but i simply don’t think it was ever a priority to him as some are trying to make it. If it was, he would have worked towards making it achievable but i think it’s something he didn’t really care that much about. If he had a chance to go to the special forces, he would. Call me crazy but i still think if Jk had to choose between going to the special forces alone or enlisting in another unit with Jimin as buddies, he would choose Jimin in a heartbeat. This doesn’t mean anything romantic but in as much as Jk loves thrill, i think y’all underestimate how much he enjoys being around Jimin.

Do y’all remember seasons greating 2020? Jk had a chance to choose between going hiking, bungee jumping and other extremely thrilling stuff and while Tae, Hobi, Joon and Jin all chose that option, what did Jk choose? He choose to go to a brewery with Jimin and Suga. Now lets be honest, if you were asked to pick where you thought Jk would go, wouldn’t everyone have picked the first option in a heartbeat? But Jk chose going to the brewery with Jimin and Suga. Ofcourse his choice may or may not have had anything to do with Jimin but my point is, everyone would have immediately thought he would choose the thrilling stuff but he ended up choosing what no one thought he would choose. So i honestly think that if Jk had to choose between the two, he still wouldn’t choose the special forces because it just wasn’t that much of a priority to him in my opinion. He may live thrill yes, but who says his love for thrill is bigger than his love for being around Jimin or any of his hyungs?

I can tell you why I think there are plenty of arguments surrounding this, but it would offend those with delicate sensibilities.

Interesting take, and it could’ve gone that way. We’ll just never know, and because we’ll never know without point blank asking him if he said that off the cuff or if it’s something he was genuinely considering, I’m operating under that ambiguity. I’m not saying I’m right about this, just that I think it’s viable.

“Jimin didn’t say anything about it so we don’t know what he thought about the whole thing.” — Precisely why I don’t mention JM in the context of this alternate reality of what could’ve been.

Not that it’s particularly relevant, but I’m tossing my own opinion out there regarding the brewery, and I would imagine it was because it was a new experience and less to do with who was a part of it. JK likes to expand his horizons and try different things, which I believe he’s mentioned similarly before. Not that it couldn’t have been because of JM if you want to make that argument, but this is where you and I would have differing viewpoints.

https://twitter.com/nightstar1201/status/1730258158852137290

https://twitter.com/nightstar1201/status/1733091849600925787

Hi, if you or anyone of your followers would like to inform yourselves about the Korean military, buddy system, tattoos and their restrictions and so on, I would suggest you scroll though the owner of this account. They served in the Korean military themselves, so there's no better source.

As you can read for yourself tattoo restrictions were lifted a few years ago due to people using tattoos to get out of mandatory service. Now people with tattoos are only banned from certain special forces and from jobs like instructor. The special force unit Jungkook wanted to join, ROKA-SWC, doesn't have any tattoo restrictions anymore but training is for over 4 years. So yes, if BTS didn't plan a comeback in 2025, I could see Jungkook genuinely considering joining ROKA-SWC but I don't think it ever was a realistic option with him. But he still had many many other units he could've chosen from, he still chose doing the buddy system with Jimin though which they had to apply for as early as August 2023. Star Jin gave a lot of answers that definitely cleared up a lot of misunderstandings. So it might be a good source to just get some information. Have a great day. 🥰

I did mention his scheduling in that post as well being a deciding factor.

I’ll also point out (for the millionth time—and this has nothing to do with you, anon) that my feelings on what could have been isn’t a reflection of what actually happened and isn’t an argument against Jkk. The reality is that, yes, they did enlist together despite the different opportunities available to them; I’m not denying that. But if given the choice and things fell into place where it would’ve been manageable (considering his normal activities), do I think JK would’ve opted differently? Yes, I do, but that’s also not saying it’s how it would’ve turned out even in that alternate timeline. I don’t know, it’s just what I think.

Do I think JM would have also followed that route? I don’t know because he never talked about it. It’s the only reason why I’m not mentioning JM because I have zero inkling what his thoughts are on the matter.

Anyway, thanks, anon.

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Idk if i got this right but if this means that jk loves giving/receiving physical affection based on when he feels like it meaning he won't always be as welcome to it as other times. Means he won't have the same reaction every time some shows him physical affection or he shows someone physical affection. If that's what this means then I definitely have seen some saying the same about him. Jihope are kinda clingy where as rm-yg are more on "not a fan of too much physical affection" kinda people maybe jin too, tae is bit more on jihope's side too whereas jungkook is in middle, he can be like this too and he can be like that too.

Basically, what I think is that he’s consistently inconsistent with regard to physical affection: how much he returns when he’s on the receiving end vs. when he’s the one doling it out entirely.

It would take me a million years to get into, but this really has little to do with shipping and is more a study of who they are as people. My personal take is that NJ-YG, SJ-JK, and TH-JM-HS have similar styles. Where it gets fuzzy is what each of their personal relationships are to one another, and that’s where it starts breaking off into shipper narratives. That’s what I think, anyway.

To all the fellow jikookers, here's the thing... Jungkook and jimin have visible tattoes which restrict them both from joining some certain units. I personally don't take it as something romantic nd all but yes they could have enlisted individually by that it would have been easier for both of them cause atleast that would have given them options to go to units that are not considered as dangerous as frontline. Jin got it randomly while as jkk got it because of buddy program cause choosing buddy prgrm directly throws you into frontline (i think there's two areas where ppl in Buddy prgrm can deploy to). I don't see anything romantic it this whole buddy program but i definitely see their bond being the closest you're literally putting your life in more danger by choosing this program when you could have been on a little safer side (i know it's military so all the areas are dangerous but frontline is closest to north korea which currently has conflicts with sk, that too given you're an idol). It ensures the thing that many of jkkrs belives which is jkk always choose eachother when it involves their comfort, mental health.

I just think it was a mutual decision as both have visible tattoes and and it's better to go with your close frnd through all the emotional turmoil MS puts you through than go alone.

It is a fact that if jk could he definitely would have chosen special force and this has NOTHING to do with taehyung nd if y'all think it that way then you simply don't know jungkook at all. Although i know there's many jkkrs who do believe jk would have gone to special force nd it doens't have anything to do with TH, but there's some that definitely gets butthurt over someone saying this nd by that you're simply showing how y'all are insecure just like Tkkrs are of JM. The whole fandom used to make jokes about jk doing some things through parasut nd all in military on his first day only n all cause everyone knows how much he loves adventures and the adrenaline rush it gives him. Now just because jm didn't say anything about special force doens't mean he also wouldn't have joined if he could too cause i definitely see him choosing something like that too cause why not??? That man is the most martial arts trained member so i definitely see him wanting to do something like that too and again this also has nothing to do with which other member wants it. I can guarantee y'all he would have aced it cause he's determined, and competitive like that. We all saw how he got first rank in his training when half the fandom was busy portraying him some porcelain dall.

See here's thing, both jm and jk are enlisted together, what the program assures is that both of them gonna start and end their day by waking up and sleeping next to eachother cause Buddy prgrm means you're going to share the same living area for whole 18 months meaning they gonna do the training together side by side, they CAN also do their rest of the service side by side if they got/chose the same job but even if they didn't got/chose same job they're still sleeping next to eachother on daily basis that's the base of Buddy prgrm and NOTHING gonna change that not even the difference jobs.

Now about promotions, when it comes to physical activities in MS I'm sure both jm and jk would be having just a slight difference in their scores (or whatever they calculate thier quality/skills on). Just because jimin doens't take some run BTS games seriously doens't mean he's weak or anything than jk. I'm sure there's not big difference in their rankings. I think the person who gets 1st in training is also given this thing where they're are allowed the early promotions so who knows even now jimin might be slightly higher than jk or they both could be same or jk could be slightly higher than jm. It's not like one is gonna rank #3 and other is gonna rank #30 so there won't be too much difference in their promotions. But as i said they still gonna be in same UNIT for the rest of their MS so they still gonna see eachother daily for the rest of the MS with same living area too.

Just get this thing that they might not be together 24/7 like they used to during training, for next 18 months they could very well be at different positions in their duty hence they might not get the privilege of being together for 24/7 but they'll sleep together and probably eat together for both times too. So stop getting butthurt over small small things nd accusing people of being an anti or anything just because some don't think they're not attached at the hips for every single minute cause there's chances they won't be atleast while on duty but there are also chances them being together on duty too so you can't get mad at people for considering different option (being separated only while on duty) too.

I’m taking my dog out of the ring because I’m actually getting a lot of conflicting messages with no firm sources that talk extensively about tattoos and enlistment. Posting for the alternate take.

You know i often enjoy your takes on certain things but one thing i’ve noticed with you which isn’t great is that, you never bother to do a little research before posting things on your blog and to me, it’s just sloppy. If you had bothered to search just a little bit, you would have known that Jk didn’t have any interest in SDT (where Taehyung is) i know u didn’t say anything about TH but the unit Jungkook mentioned on that Live is different from SDT.

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So you are not wrong when u say he probably would have wanted to be in the special forces (SDT being one of the units but not the one Jk wanted) but i’m sure by now you also know that his tattoos didn’t really have anything to do with him not being able to join the special forces but it was about the time. The unit he wanted was about 4 years so he couldn’t do it and come back in time for the reunion. So i agree with you on the point that Jk might have wanted that because we know he likes to challenge himself.

But you know one thing you and many others are missing? Jimin might have wanted that too. You sound like Jk had no choice but to join the buddy system with Jimin because he couldn’t do what he wanted but you don’t know that. All we know is that Jk might have had an interest in the special forces but only he knows the reason why he didn’t do it. We don’t know if it had anything to do with Jimin or not. Plus, even if he couldn’t do what be wanted, he didn’t have to enlist with Jimin. He could have enlisted alone but he still choose to enlist with Jimin even though he had other options. Jungkook has probably known for years what the military rules are yet he still did everything he wanted to do to his body.

At the end of the day, we are all just speculating on the whys and why nots but all that we know for sure is that Jungkook and Jimin for some reason best known to them decided to enlist together. The reason could be what Jikookers think it is or not we will never know but the last thing you or anyone else should be doing is trying to invalidate this decision they both made especially because if this was any other pair, nobody would have been writing think pieces to reason out why they did it. Jikookers and other people aren’t just saying this proves their closeness for nothing. There is literally precedence. In the past we have had moments which have shown that for some reason, Jimin and Jk actually really love being together. For you to pretty much spend all of your downtime in someone else’s room, you must really love being around them so why are you surprised that they might have done this because they didn’t want to go that long without seeing each other? Y’all say jikookers come at anyone who says otherwise but that is because everyone and their keeps trying to invalidate Jimin and Jungkook’s bond and this has gone on for years on end. Everything Jimin and Jk do is either fanservice, forced, not that deep, not special or because they had no choice. How tf did they have no choice when they could have enlisted separately? Regardless of what you think Jk wanted or not, him choosing to enlist with Jimin proves nothing other than the fact that those two are really close and love being with each other. All this mental gymnastics is just not going to change reality. You can spin it which ever way you want but at the end of the day, you know as much as i do that their decision to enlist together is very telling about how much to mean to each other.

The anon was asking me about Jungkook, not Jimin. I responded accordingly. They asked me how it would affect Jkk; again, I had no idea and responded that I didn’t think it would/should, but I never said anything so concretely as to why. The issue seems more to be reading comprehension and knee-jerking every little thing I say because Jkkrs on Tumblr are aggrieved by my existence.

I’m an opinion blog, not a fact checking blog. With all due respect, you say you enjoy my takes, which I understand to mean that you’ve been here a while. I don’t know for how long, but it’s known to a lot of readers who go way back that this is how I’ve always been. When I don’t know something, I make it known. That’s where my responsibility ends—and as I very clearly mentioned to the OG anon, I wasn’t going to have an answer (at least to what they were asking me, which was implicit). The fact I mention this should make it obvious where my weaknesses lie, and if people want to fact check me, they most certainly can. Some people have done so politely, but most people are focused on what makes them reactionary.

i don't know if my ask went through with the link:

https://twitter.com/LeoHan13Y/status/1732975849610084387

Thank you for this.

It doesn’t go into a lot of detail, though, so if there are any other sources that cite tattoos and SDT enlistment, that would be great.

Even Googling this yields searches that tattoos isn’t necessarily a restriction but rather how extensive it is, so now this is considered conflicting information.

You're completely entitled to your own opinions and to post in the jikook tag. But guess who's in the jikook tag? People who actually believe that jikook enlisting together was them absolutely choosing each other. I am not saying this from any romantic view point. Jungkook even wrote in his rookie journal (it was an internal leak) that he was very grateful Jimin was with him because he's shy when he's alone and things are better with Jimin around. He wanted the two of them to be together and went through a multiple step process to do so.

And that’s fine. But me saying I think JK would’ve chosen something else is an opinion that people should also respect. It’s not a slight against Jkk, but shippers are making it out to be a personal affront. I’ll add it here again, but my opinion actually has nothing to do with TH. The only people making it about TH are shippers and what I ostensibly believe are closet antis.

For people who love to say that they’re not like Tkkrs and love TH, they sure do get offended at any remote association JK could have with him when he isn’t even mentioned.

jikookers are always mad when anyone argues the specialness of the buddy program. trust me it’s not you

No, I’m starting to see that. Every time I say anything “against” the buddy enlistment program, I get accusations that I’m a closet Tkkr or that I’m saying this for attention. 🙄

As if a person literally can’t think that, logically, JK would actually be good for SDT because he’s physically capable and that he’s shown interest in it. That is literally all I said.

Jkkrs are so tightly wound and defensive all the time that they could shit diamonds at this point.

You're wrong. This promotion isn't just applied to Jungkook and doesn't change anything.

https://twitter.com/tothemoon_jimin/status/1763015368489013389

Your tone is questionable, but I appreciate you actually trying to be helpful.

what are you talking about? both jungkook and jimin were promoted to private first class. thats the normal ranking progression after a certain amount of time lol. also it has been reported it's in march 1st that taehyung, namjoon, jungkook and jimin all get promoted. sometimes you make very strange assumptions with wrong information but that could be easily avoided with basic searching.

Stop being weird.

What assumption am I making? As I told previous anon, this isn’t something I’m informed about. So inform me. That’s not hard.

I do still think JK would’ve joined SDT, but that’s not a shipping issue.

You guys are so triggered by everything. Calm the fuck down.

You always buy taekooker narratives. It's like you get pleasure on debunking jikook by any means possible. I don't even think they're a couple or together in a non-platonic way, but damn, you sure like to downplay something as special as them enlisting together.

When did I mention TH? I swear you people like to put words in my mouth. JK wanting to join SDT has nothing to do with TH. You say you don’t think they’re a couple, so why are YOU making this about shipping? 🤦🏻‍♀️

And did I not say I’m not the person to ask and that I don’t have all the information. It’s a good opportunity to inform me, not assume I’m saying things for nefarious purposes.

Think, please.

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i always got the vibe that jk prefers giving physical affection on his terms rather than receiving it. or when he does receive it happily, it has to be in a certain way (maybe more low key?); it looks like he freezes up with jimin sometimes (to this day), it could be bc jimin's way of giving affection is very grand and big which is kind of jk's opposite. i mean i could just be projecting and none of this comes close to the truth lol

Oh, I’ve had this feeling before, but since I don’t know him personally, it’s purely speculation on my part about his character and isn’t at all a reflection on who he is 100%. Again, my opinions on him (or any member) are stymied by the fact that he’s a real person, where real people are complex and layered. But to be fair, his personality doesn’t often stick to this behavioral pattern, but it happens often enough where a pattern is noticeable.

But JK aside, it’s not unusual for people to be exactly how you describe.

It’s nice to know that I’m not the only one who sensed this, though, regardless if it’s right or wrong.

hi taj! do you know what it means now that jk is being promoted to first class? how do you think that would affect jikook?

Sorry, anon, I don’t have an answer to this. But apart from reports of JK’s promotion, I don’t actually have information on what that means within the context of his enlistment and whether that changes the nature of the buddy system. It’s not something I keep close tabs on.

On first impressions alone, this doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. Were it not for his tattoos (and assuming his schedule had allowed for it), I firmly believe he would’ve applied for SDT (and this does coincide with my feelings on the buddy enlistment as a whole, which I won’t go into).

That aside, no feelings on if his promotion affects Jkk. I don’t think it will or should, but again, I don’t know if it’s simply a change in rank/title or if it means something else.

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Edited to add: Someone pointed out they’re all being promoted (and thanks for that), but it’s a little weird how shippers are getting defensive about this topic. There’s nothing provocative about what I’ve said here, other than (apparently) my thoughts about JK potentially choosing SDT in an alternate reality. I still think he would have, and that has nothing to do with TH; it has everything to do with his physical prowess. A lot of you have a chip on your shoulder about TH, and it screams anti to me honestly.

I have a question to ask you, to read about your perspective (I hope asking it doesn't make me come across an anti) but why do you think Jungkook has always treated Jimin the way he has for years? I mean physically pushing Jimin away/pulling away from him and looking like he doesn't want him near?

I don't believe that he's uncomfortable or anything. I mean there have been times where he seeks Jimin out or initiates skinship with him (and "Satellite Jeon" is not a thing that was made up by shippers, it was real)

So what do you think is the reason Jungkook does that?

This is going to sound anticlimactic, but age (maturity) and personality has a lot to do with that in my opinion. It’s also about navigating different dynamics and figuring out boundaries—all this on top of living in confined quarters and having a lot of pressure thrust upon them.

This also applies to JM. I think it had a lot to do with growing pains (figuratively speaking). You can like someone—I think JK made it clear even in his youth that he appreciated JM—but your patience, emotions, etc. are tumultuous at that age. One could argue that even Vmin had a push-pull dynamic because it’s known now that they argued the most.

I don’t see this as a Jkk-specific thing but more like boys growing up in an unusual environment.

Edited to add: I realized I may have misinterpreted your question as though you were only referring to past Jkk. But if you’re referring to current Jkk, you’re going to have to cite some more examples because I think they’re fine. If there is occasional tension, then I think it’s more to do with standard arguments and annoyances that come with knowing someone for so long. Relationships, in general, aren’t linear.

Hey, so i know you are not open to the opinion that jikook could have been or are a couple, so i want to hear what you think of this.

What reason do you think someone would have to basically spend almost all their down time in another member’s room alone with them? I’m talking about the time BTS were in LA for PTD tour. We found out from Jimin that Jk visited his hotel room about three times a day, Jk sometimes went there around 1:50am and stayed there for about 4 hours at a time. Untop of this, they worked out everyday together, ate together, came back from concerts together, plus in that very famous Vminkook Live, jimin mentioned “we haven’t showered yet” talking about himself and Jk and he said that to Tae.

So my thing is, Jk is also very close to Tae and if he was bored, he could hang out in his room with him too sometimes or other members. He said jimin’s room is the closest but how many steps does it take to get to the next members room? What exactly was it about Jimin’s room that Jk liked so much? It’s not like he was there only with Jimin too. The only way it makes sense to me for someone to spend that much time in someone else’s room is if they are together. Tae even though Jimin’s room was Jk’s so can u imagine how much time Jk must have spent in there? What was so special about Jimin or Jimin’s room that kept pulling Jk there? This is what i’d like to know cuz i never understood it.

A form of parallel play, probably, is my honest answer. I don’t think it’s untrue when they say they’re quite similar to one another, and I think that includes what they do in their down time. I don’t think there’s a profound answer here.

But genuine question: of those activities listed, why is being a couple the conclusion you would have about them? There are people who are conjoined twins with their friends, and that doesn’t mean they’re dating. These make you think they’re a couple for doing all of this together (and that’s absolutely your prerogative), whereas I see it as two people who enjoy one another’s company. These are not mutually exclusive things. The shower comment is a throwaway that I’ve only seen shippers fixate on; “we haven’t showered yet” is as much a regular statement as any. In fact, it makes sense if they were together and eating first, so of course they wouldn’t have showered yet before they joined TH.

As for JK not bothering TH, for example, has TH really discussed what he did during the evening (other than the one time he visited JM)? Someone feel free to inform me. Even TH visiting JM that one night indicates that JM has something in common with both of them that those two sought him out that late. If history is to be believed, I think it’s that JM can attune himself easily to be with whomever he’s with. For JK, that might be wanting to hang out but left to do their own things (see: parallel play / JM explaining what JK was doing in his room), and for TH that’s doing oddball Vmin-centric things or chatting away (see: other lives where they’re together). (Also, this is just speculation, but TH may have also been spending his down time on the phone with Jennie..? I don’t actually know what the agreed upon timeline is with them.)

Being night buddies, to me, doesn’t necessarily equate to a romantic connection. The problem is that apart from Vminkook, the other members are pretty tight-lipped about what they do when they’re in their rooms. There are plenty of reasons why they might not want to spend these late hours with the other guys (the HL don’t even talk about spending time with each other that late either); it’s not something we’d know but something JK was probably aware of. It’s hard to dial into a firm conclusion without having that insight.

That’s what I think.

i remember you saying that you had one last big theory about what it would take to make you think jikook could be taking. is that something you think of with your new view or does it not count anymore?

Took me a minute to remember what this is about, but actually yes.

I think I may have already said this in passing before too, but I’m not sure.

If Jkk are the only ones who remain single indefinitely, even beyond an age where they would be settling down with partners, I’d keep an eye on it. This is, of course, a long-term observation. They’d have to be fast approaching their 40s before I’d even consider thinking it a viability. Even then, it wouldn’t be foolproof.

I trust what JK said in his live about possibly having been with someone before (it was an implication, not a concrete statement), but you have to keep in mind that this is the only time he’s ever directly acknowledged that question without deflecting/joking about it, so it’s important. But if this is a response he has continuously in conjunction with never officially being seen with anyone, with very little coverage—and it also matches JM’s lack of affiliation with anyone—then I’d be open to wondering.

But this theory also hinges strongly on the other members settling down/officially being in relationships so that it’s obvious something is amiss. Even one other member choosing a bachelor life for the rest of time would put this theory in limbo.

This theory also has roots close to home, which is why anyone reading this theory should take this with a grain of salt, and why I’m very casual about it (i.e., there are flaws, it’s not finely tuned—it’s just a thought thrown into the ether). My parents have connections in entertainment, and it’s understood that the theory I have is an actual occurrence among actors (more commonly with older actors who aren’t ready or will never come out). Rumors are all you ever seem to get, if you get them. But you also have to take that with a grain of salt too, because some of them are just too sexual to be in a monogamous relationship rather than them harboring affections for someone of the same sex.

And these are actors fully acclimated to American culture and society, so there are nuances that could never apply to Jkk in their own scenario. But what could extend to them is this indefinite status of being single but consistently being in each other’s periphery. It’s not just about them being single; you would also have to factor in how their statuses are highlighted by one another.

Anyway, don’t take it seriously. It’s just a thought, and by the time the theory could be worth considering, I’ll be long gone from Tumblr to fully explore it.